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In this issue:

FTE Small - Re: Sound on Ranger
FTE Small - re 3.0L Performance Questions
RE: FTE Small - Exploder tires?
FTE Small - Tire Rack mail-order company
Re: FTE Small - Tire Rack mail-order company
FTE Small - Re:Re:Re: Exploder Tires
FTE Small - Re:Leaking shock?
FTE Small - aerostar bumpers, jerking tranny and other questions
FTE Small - Driveshaft
RE: FTE Small - Driveshaft
Re: FTE Small - Driveshaft
Re: FTE Small - Exploder tires?
FTE Small - update - Holy Smoke, Batman!
FTE Small - Re: TSB's
RE: FTE Small - Exploder tires?
FTE Small - Off road
FTE Small - Muffler
Re: FTE Small - update - Holy Smoke, Batman!
FTE Small - Leaking Shock!
RE: FTE Small - Leaking shock?
RE: FTE Small - Driveshaft
Re: FTE Small - Muffler

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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 04:24:53 PST
From: "Joe Mitchell"
Subject: FTE Small - Re: Sound on Ranger

>From: "DuPont, Patrick"
>Subject: FTE Small - FW: One More Try (sound on Ranger)
>
>> Joe,
>> I had this problem with my '88 Taurus. The sound was so loud I
thought I
>> was dragging my muffler! I had just had my rear brakes done at a
shop
>> that I was unfamiliar with. I pulled the tires and checked the

Thanks for the advice. Seems to me that this sound has to be coming from
the brakes or at least the brake assembly. I've ruled out almost
everything else (that is located in the rear). I'm gonna go ahead and
get that checked out this weekend.... Thanks again....

Joe




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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 08:55:21 -0600
From: Wayne Haley
Subject: FTE Small - re 3.0L Performance Questions

Todd, I haven't any setup recommendations for you, but I can recommend a
website to check out. Point your browser to www.kustomz.com. They sell air
intake, msd, performance catalytic converters, and exhaust systems for
3.0Ls. I have e-mailed them a question before and they were very quick with
a response. I think they are the types who would have quantitative
information on hand in terms of power boost from various modifications.
Hope this helps and good luck dialing in some hp!
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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 08:05:02 -0700
From: Dave Armbruster
Subject: RE: FTE Small - Exploder tires?

I dunno, I just got a set of tires from Sears and had a pretty good
salesman. I have a '97 4wd Ranger that came with the P235/70R15 Firestones.
I was looking to replace with about the same size, maybe 30" or 31" BFGs,
etc. The guy let me go downstairs into the basement where they stored all
the tires and he pulled out several sizes to show the difference between a
235/70R15 and the LT version, and then compared them to 30" and 31", etc. I
figured on going with 30" BFGs, at which point he told me had has a set of
Dunlops that were returned, that were LT245/75R15. He claimed that the guy
who bought them didn't like them and returned them under Sears 500 mile
guarantee. The tires still had the blue stain on the letters and the nubs
on the tread, and he priced them at just about half of the floor price and
retained full warranty. That size tire has 5 mm wider tread, but 10 mm
taller sidewall, which makes them just about exactly the same diameter when
mounted on 15X7 factory wheels.

The main difference in a P and LT is the edges of the outside tread are
square on LT and rounded on a P tire. Sometimes you will find that a LT is
rated higher for payload, but not always. It seems, though, that the metric
tires are generally rated lower than a similar sized true truck tire (the
ones measured in inches). As far as payload, even the Firestones that came
stock gave me a higher rating than the axles and suspension on the truck can
handle. In the small trucks you probably aren't really going to have to
worry about load ratings.

Dave
Denver, CO


> -----Original Message-----
>
> Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 15:10:40 EST
> From: Bakend AOL.COM
> Subject: FTE Small - Exploder tires?
>
> I just got back from Sears and I am not happy. We took my wife's 95
> Explorer
> in to get new tires and I was told I could not have the LT type tires. The
> tires on it now are P2358R15 Goodyear Wrangler RT\S. Anyone have any
> idea
> why the heavier duty tire would be a problem on this vehicle and not on a
> pickup? Seems to me the Explorer is heavier and should require a heavy
> duty
> tire. We do take the vehicle off road to get to the cabin up in the
> mountains
> and I feel Sears was being unreasonable just to sell me a higher
> priced-lower
> rated tire. Warranty is not an issue, as the vehicle is out of the
> warranty
> period.
> Any suggestions for tires that anyone is or has run on their Explorer is
> greatly appreciated.
> Thanks
> D Baken
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> I think Sears is a rotton store for tires. I have an 88 Bronco II. A
> friend
> gave me 4 new American Racing rims, size 15X8. I needed new tires. Sears
> had a decent LT235-17R15 on sale. They wouldn't put the new tires on the
> rims, because they weren't factory, or bought from them!!!! Even
> worse....... They wouldn't install the tires, on the factory rims, because
> the "COMPUTER" said they wouldn't fit!!!!! I know my truck!!! Better then
> anyone!!!!! Last time I EVER deal with them!!! Just my cents!
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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 07:09:13 -0800
From: "Brodie, Doug"
Subject: FTE Small - Tire Rack mail-order company

Hey Dave
How 'bout some more info on the Tire Rack mail-order company. Maybe
everyone here knows about them except me but I've only been following this
list for about a week. Do they have a catalogue? A web site? What about a
phone # or contact person? I'm in the market for some wheels and tires.
Any info would be appreciated.
Thanks
Doug
Midland, TX
'93 Explorer
'79 F250
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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 10:44:43 -0500
From: Dave Slotter
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Tire Rack mail-order company

> Hey Dave
> How 'bout some more info on the Tire Rack mail-order company. Maybe
> everyone here knows about them except me but I've only been following this
> list for about a week. Do they have a catalogue? A web site? What about a
> phone # or contact person? I'm in the market for some wheels and tires.
> Any info would be appreciated.
> Thanks
> Doug
> Midland, TX
> '93 Explorer
> '79 F250

Hi Doug.

You can visit the Tire Rack on the web at .

- -Dave
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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 10:50:22 -0500
From: "Mike McNany"
Subject: FTE Small - Re:Re:Re: Exploder Tires

D Baken replied: "No the LT was on sale and was $69 while the Passenger tire
was over $100"

What I was referring to was the price difference between Normal and LT tires
of the same brand and model. THEN, they are always more since they are the
same tire only a little heavier construction in the casing, same appearance,
cross section, ect. I was thinking that was what you meant. OOPs on me.
Mike

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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 10:54:38 -0500
From: "Mike McNany"
Subject: FTE Small - Re:Leaking shock?

SNIP
on the front passenger side: it's completely drenched in this fluid.>

You probably checked but you're sure it wasn't blown back from somewhere
else? I've had leaks of that nature, usually on the driver's side from the
power steering.
Mike

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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 11:14:31 -0500 (EST)
From: Victor L Moran
Subject: FTE Small - aerostar bumpers, jerking tranny and other questions

hello all,
I too am looking to replace my bumpers on my aerostar (girlfriend
backed into a concrete post, but no body damage). Any info on replacing
these plastic ornaments would be very helpful since I'm moving to NYC in 4
months.

I have an '87 aerostar xlt with the 3.0L V-6 with automatic tranny and
overdrive. I have a few questions about the tranny.. Is it normal for the
car to jerk backward a second or two after putting it into reverse? Also is it
possible to shift from drive to overdrive while moving or do I have to
stop like you have to stop when going to reverse from drive?

I also have alot of noise coming from under my console at speeds over
35mph. Any ideas? It sounds like a rough ticking sound.

The bulb that lights my floor shifter also blew out recently. Can someone
tell me how in the world I can replace that blub? I don't see any screws
or any seams that can be opened on the plastic housing on the floor.

And if possible, can someone please list some signs to look for, for a
tranny that is getting sick or needs work?

Victor.

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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 11:46:09 PST
From: "Chuck Anderson"
Subject: FTE Small - Driveshaft

I have a 90 Bronco II, 2.9, auto trans, 4X4, with 162,000 miles. My
vehicle has a vibration in it. I have narrowed it down to the drive
shaft. My vehicle has the CV joint style driveshaft. I found a unit at
the James Duff website for $270. Other dealers and parts distributors
want $300 to $600 for the same part. My question is, can I have a
machine shope make a one-peice drive shaft? Will it alter the
handling/performance of the vehicle? I have heard both good and bad
about doing this. What do you all think about having the machine shop
making the driveshaft? Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks


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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 12:47:43 -0800
From: "Ryan Miller"
Subject: RE: FTE Small - Driveshaft

I've heard good things about Dick's Driveshafts (sorry, no address handy at
the moment; they have ads in most of the 4x4 mags). They have stock type CV
shafts for $95 and u-joint style for $140. This is cheaper than I could have
done locally (Spokane, WA area). I need to order one for my '87 BII (also
160,000 miles) as is vibrates under load.

Ryan


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> [mailto:owner-small-list ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of Chuck Anderson
> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 1999 11:46 AM
> To: small-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: FTE Small - Driveshaft
>
>
> I have a 90 Bronco II, 2.9, auto trans, 4X4, with 162,000 miles. My
> vehicle has a vibration in it. I have narrowed it down to the drive
> shaft. My vehicle has the CV joint style driveshaft. I found a unit at
> the James Duff website for $270. Other dealers and parts distributors
> want $300 to $600 for the same part. My question is, can I have a
> machine shope make a one-peice drive shaft? Will it alter the
> handling/performance of the vehicle? I have heard both good and bad
> about doing this. What do you all think about having the machine shop
> making the driveshaft? Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks
>
>
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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 16:24:46 EST
From: PRODRVR11 AOL.COM
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Driveshaft

In a message dated 99-02-16 14:47:21 EST, you write:


vehicle has a vibration in it. I have narrowed it down to the drive
shaft. My vehicle has the CV joint style driveshaft. I found a unit at
the James Duff website for $270. Other dealers and parts distributors
want $300 to $600 for the same part. My question is, can I have a
machine shope make a one-peice drive shaft? Will it alter the
handling/performance of the vehicle? I have heard both good and bad
about doing this. What do you all think about having the machine shop
making the driveshaft? Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks
>>

My Ranger suffered the same problem that actually caused two transmissions to
split open. Ford just kept replacing transmissions saying they fixed the
problem but it was indeed the driveshaft CV's. I had Las Vegas Drivline fix
it for something like $60 by replacing the CV's with a Spicer universal joint.
That's a whole bunch cheaper than replacing the entire shaft, as long as it's
straight still.

Rusty
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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 17:58:25 EST
From: Bakend AOL.COM
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Exploder tires?

In a message dated 99-02-16 10:06:17 EST, you write:


I dunno, I just got a set of tires from Sears and had a pretty good
salesman. I have a '97 4wd Ranger that came with the P235/70R15 Firestones.
I was looking to replace with about the same size, maybe 30" or 31" BFGs,
etc. The guy let me go downstairs >>
Hey Dave,
What Sears store did you go to in Denver? I live out by DIA but would be
willing to drive accross town just to see if it is policy or salesman.
D Baken
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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 99 17:51:47 EST
From: CONAN RALVM8.VNET.IBM.COM
Subject: FTE Small - update - Holy Smoke, Batman!

Howdy!
If y'all will remember, a couple of weeks ago I kinda mentioned that
the heater in my '83 Ranger had caught fire at the mechanic's shop due
to an accumulation of pine needles...
Today I finally got around to locating the little stash. Turns out
it's actually in the plastic housing covering the fan and a/c condenser(?)
(radiator kinda thing next to the firewall) under the hood. This is a
large 2-piece black plastic housing that looks to be very difficult to
remove. It is located on the passenger side of the firewall, under the
hood.
There is, however, an easy way to get -some- idea of your pine needle
supply...
Raise the hood and look at the housing from the passenger-side fender
area. You will see the heater fan, then an indented area, then the big
housing over the a/c core. Low on the a/c housing you will see a largish
electrical plug connected to a socket held to the housing by just two
sheet-metal screws (easy to get to). Remove these two screws and the
socket pulls out easily. It turns out to be some kinda bare-wire-coil
resisters and these apparently heated up enough to start my pine straw
smoldering. Take a flashlight and peek in the hole (mirror helps) and
feel around with your finger to see how you're fixed for pine straw.
Mine was packed! It was very old, brittle, and -dry-. (And partly
charcoaled from being toasted a while before catching fire! ;-) )
You can remove the heater//a/c fan (easy, 3 screws and a plug) to try
and reach around and get most of this out. You'll need small, nimble
hands. Maybe a blunt stick will help break up dry, brittle pine straw
so it will drop down where you can rake it out. I got several handfuls!
Unfortunately, I suspect this area is on the downwind side of the
a/c core. That means there may be even more pine straw on the other side,
which will be a real bear to get to. The plastic housing splits into
two parts around the a/c core, but, with my V6 at least, it looks hard
to get to the screws to remove it. (Hey Tim! You might oughta look into
this while your engine's out! :-) :-) )
(Hmmm.. Wonder if I could reach down thru the exterior cowl intake vent
and pull some out of the upwind side that way...)
My little fire melted a hole in the housing in the 'valley' between the
fan and the larger housing section around the a/c core. It also melted a
few blades on the squirrel cage fan rotor. (Hopefully one day before
winter I'll get around to trying a little duc'k' tape on this hole. :-) )
What this little resistor/wire-coil thing is/does I don't know. Maybe
some kinda temperature sensor for the a/c? My a/c has not worked as long
as I've had the truck. (Freon leaks and bad compresser clutch.)
Something for those of you with older trucks in the pine trees to look
into. :-)
Ed in NC
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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 17:53:46 -0600
From: "Randy Collins"
Subject: FTE Small - Re: TSB's

Thanks for repeating the links. My next question is this: is there a way to
see the whole bulletin? Specifically, Service Bulletin #980316985-13,
Sequence #132. Any help is appreciated.

ran


> Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 13:34:33 -0500
> From: "Bryan A. Dann"
> Subject: FTE Small - TSB's
>
> Links to TSB's:
>
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.alldata.tsb.com/pro/index.html
>
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/
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>
>
> - --
> 70 Mustang Mach1 351C-Shaker
> 93 Ranger STX S/C 4x4
> 97 Dodge Caravan Sport (wife)
>
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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 18:05:14 -0600
From: "Anthony Rio"
Subject: RE: FTE Small - Exploder tires?

I think they are "RF"'s. I have them on my F150, and adore them.

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> Sent: Sunday, February 14, 1999 10:40 PM
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> Subject: Re: FTE Small - Exploder tires?
>
>
> d baken: I have a 96 explorer with the awd and i just put
> on all new
> wrangler P235/75/15 there the newest tire out the ones with the two aqua
> channels built in and they have some serious meat...There either
> the ats or
> the rts i can't recall at the moment..I love the tires more than any other
> tire i've ever had on a suv they handle great without all that squealing
> around turns they are great when you hit the big puddles and i've
> been in some
> slippery snow several times this year and they have impressed me more each
> time i'd recommend them to anyone....They are also a very heavy
> duty tire..You
> won't be pushing them to there limits by any means...If you can
> bring back the
> sears tires do it...Find a goodyear dealer and ask for them they run about
> $113 each but are well worth the $$$$$$ (saftey first) and i
> also use mine
> off roading several times a year and they do the job very
> well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!....ding
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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 19:18:16 -0500
From: "Eric Davis"
Subject: FTE Small - Off road

Went off-road this weekend and busted off my plastic air dam, left fog
light, and a plastic thing that covers the bottom of the radiator. Total
cost to fix all this is coming to around $140. Just telling ever one out
there that has a 98 or above to watch out when you go off road.

Eric Davis
98 4x4 Ranger,
Edlebrock muffler, K&N.


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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 19:58:29 -0500
From: J Cope
Subject: FTE Small - Muffler

I drive an 88 BII and it needs a new muffler. Now, I go to a great auto
parts place, and they'll replace the one I've got for free. The problem is
that the muffler is really nothing special. I was wondering if anyone knew
of anything I could get that would boost my performance at least a little,
but not cost too much...
Thanks!

JC

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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 20:19:17 -0500
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - update - Holy Smoke, Batman!

CONAN RALVM8.VNET.IBM.COM wrote:
>
> Howdy!
> If y'all will remember, a couple of weeks ago I kinda mentioned that
> the heater in my '83 Ranger had caught fire at the mechanic's shop due
> to an accumulation of pine needles...

> Today I finally got around to locating the little stash.

> Unfortunately, I suspect this area is on the downwind side of the
> a/c core.

Air flow is as follows: Cowl, fan, evaporator, heater, ducts. Unless
some of the straw made it through the evap. coils You ought to be OK.
:-)

> That means there may be even more pine straw on the other side,
> which will be a real bear to get to. The plastic housing splits into
> two parts around the a/c core, but, with my V6 at least, it looks hard
> to get to the screws to remove it. (Hey Tim! You might oughta look into
> this while your engine's out! :-) :-) )

It's not TOO bad with a swivel socket of the right size (1/4 or 9/32,
forget which), and various 1/4 drive extensions. Awkward but doable.
(It's not out yet!.. the car I got for backup took a dump on me and
need to repair Kim's old car for trade-in on the '93 Capri she got.. At
least all the vehicles in the stable are all Ford products now!)

> (Hmmm.. Wonder if I could reach down thru the exterior cowl intake vent
> and pull some out of the upwind side that way...)

Good idea, and also a preventative thing also; probably a lesson for us
ALL there.. clean the debris of the intake vent in the cowl anytime you
open the hood.

> My little fire melted a hole in the housing in the 'valley' between the
> fan and the larger housing section around the a/c core. It also melted a
> few blades on the squirrel cage fan rotor. (Hopefully one day before
> winter I'll get around to trying a little duc'k' tape on this hole. :-) )

Actually get a roll of 'insulation tape' (AKA 'dum-dum') it's sticky
gooky black stuff made for sealing HVAC stuff and readily available at
parts houses. I would replace the blade though, the life of the motor
will be short turning an out of balance fan.

> What this little resistor/wire-coil thing is/does I don't know.

It's what controls the speed of the fan; high current low resistance
resistors cooled by the airflow in the HVAC. Every resistor it goes
through slows the speed (lowers the voltage). BTW those things will
give you a NASTY burn if you take them out of the airflow, anybody
removing one for cleaning should let the vehicle sit for a few minutes
first.

> My a/c has not worked as long
> as I've had the truck. (Freon leaks and bad compresser clutch.)
> Something for those of you with older trucks in the pine trees to look
> into. :-)

But obviously the heater fan works! :-) (And the resistors.. )

> Ed in NC

Always a pleasure to hear from ya Ed.

Tim Turner/Manic Mechanic
Custer Auto Repair
Wilmington NC
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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 17:40:12 -0800
From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9?= E. Benguerel"
Subject: FTE Small - Leaking Shock!

Jeff,

The problem that you describe sounds like you have blown a gas seal on
your shock. Most "performance" shocks use nitrogen gas under pressure to
keep the dampening fluid in the body of the shock from foaming. The gas
is contained in the shock by a set of rubber o-rings. I would imagine
that with only 700 miles, this will be covered under warranty. Expensive
shocks like Bilstiens come with a lifetime warranty that covers blown
shocks.

Andre E. Benguerel

1995 Ford Ranger 4 X4 SC
4.0L V6, OD Auto, Xlt

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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 21:37:03 -0500
From: Burnett
Subject: RE: FTE Small - Leaking shock?

Jeff Richardson wrote:
>
> different than those on the standard 4x4? Well anyhow, I was cleaning out
> the garage today and noticed a little puddle of light brownish fluid (?).
I
> looked under the truck and found that everything was dry except the shock
> on the front passenger side: it's completely drenched in this fluid. The
>
> "rough". I don't know much of anything in terms of suspension systems -
so
> what's happening? I plan to take it to the dealer but I want some
knowledge

A co-worker just bought a '98 Dodge pickup and had the same thing happen
within 500 miles. In his case, the dealer told him that the shock was
defective and they replaced it under warranty. I see no reason your case
would be different.

Regards,

Burnett
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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 21:55:52 -0500
From: Burnett
Subject: RE: FTE Small - Driveshaft

Chuck Anderson wrote:
>
> the James Duff website for $270. Other dealers and parts distributors
> want $300 to $600 for the same part. My question is, can I have a
> machine shope make a one-peice drive shaft? Will it alter the
> handling/performance of the vehicle? I have heard both good and bad
> about doing this. What do you all think about having the machine shop
> making the driveshaft? Any help would be appreciated.
>

Having gone thru this about 3 months ago, I'll offer my $.02 worth.

A number of shops will make a replacement driveshaft, but typically you
won't save any money vs. the James Duff unit. A one piece unit would
probably have to be of the CV-joint type to allow for the driveline angles
encountered on this vehicle. The drawback to the CV-joint type is that they
are more difficult to repair or rebuild when there is a problem. The
CV-joints on the BII are reportedly rebuildable, but I've never heard from
anyone who could find the parts needed. Unfortunately, they cannot be
replaced - either by u-joints or new CV-joints.

If you go with u-joints, you need a two piece shaft since the u-joints
can't 'slip' to allow changes in the length of the shaft as the driveline
angle changes. You also need a double cardan type (two u-joints at one end
of the shaft) to handle the large angles encountered without excessive
noise or vibration. The major advantage to the u-joint type shaft is that
they are easy to maintain and repair. In fact if you already had this type
shaft, you'd be looking at say $40-$50 to repair it.

The James Duff shaft is a double cardan two-piece type shaft. It is a very
solid, well engineered part. In fact the James Duff company made its
reputation on designing parts for off-road racing Broncos, Bronco IIs and....


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