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In this issue:

FTE Small - RE: Sliding Rear Window Question
FTE Small - Bronco II v8 kit
FTE Small - bronco two
Re: FTE Small - Re: Sliding Rear Window
Re: FTE Small - Bronco II v8 kit
Re: FTE Small - TSB's and visits to the factory...
Re: FTE Small - Bronco II v8 kit
FTE Small - Bronco II Paint codes
Re: FTE Small - DIY Manuals
Re: FTE Small - Bronco II v8 kit
Re: FTE Small - Bronco II 4WD
Re: FTE Small - anti-sieze vs Loc-tite
FTE Small - Grabby Brakes on Small FTs
FTE Small - FTE SMALL - bed cover for 91?
FTE Small - Report: My Aerostar Doesn't Stink Now

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Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 08:43:39 -0600
From: Wayne Haley
Subject: FTE Small - RE: Sliding Rear Window Question

Joe, don't know what part of Texas you are in, but I have heard positive
comments on 2 places in the Dallas area. One is Feagin Parts & Service at
3933 Forest Lane in Garland (972) 494-2070. The other is Discount Hitch and
Truck Accessories (972) 988-3231 or toll free (800) 297-4660. They sell and
install sliders, so I assume they do non-sliders as well. If you are lucky
they might even have one laying around that they just took out of someone
else's truck.

I would assume that any body shop or auto glass specialists could handle the
installation as well. Hope this helps!
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Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 11:44:19 -0500
From: Walt
Subject: FTE Small - Bronco II v8 kit

I hope my question is not a beaten subject. I'm new to this list, so
tolerate me please. I have a 1984 Bronco II 2.8 V 6 4wd C6 tarnny. I've been
contemplating dropping in , so to speak, a small block Ford V8 as soon as I
finish my 65 Ranchero restore. I've been told a company exists that markets
a "kit. I found one in Texas, that has an overpriced kit ( over a $1000.00
). I met a guy at a meet who did the conversion on his Ranger and used a kit
he obtained for $350.00 from an outfit in the Midwest. If anyone out there
can lead me in the right direction, I will be forever indebted. Thanks in
advance.

Walt DiDomenico Deerfield Beach, FL

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Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 15:39:08 -0500
From: Timothy_Shields ST.cytec.com
Subject: FTE Small - bronco two

Hi All
My name is Tim Shields,and I used to own an 84 B-2.I now own a 98 f150
4x4 xlt s\c.
Has anyone ever heard of this.....While driving,all of a sudden, all
of the guages on the dash would slowly peg out-
(gas,oil,temp.volts),for about 15 seconds,then they would slowly
return to normal. I never could figure out what happend,Maybe someone
on this list has a clue.I owned it from 1986-1994,bought it with 22k
and sold it with 117k.it was a 2.8L with 5 speed/od original clutch,
4x4.I finally sold it ,but it was one of the best darn trucks I ever
owned. It was mint untill i let my now EX wife drive it.She got
T-boned at a busy intersection did some nice damage to the drivers
door.(but thats another story).
Tim Shields ex b2......now Big Blue 98 f-150 mint :) happily divorced
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Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 14:50:41 -0600 (CST)
From: Sandman
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Re: Sliding Rear Window

On Mon, 8 Feb 1999, Joe Mitchell wrote:

> >Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 21:19:17 EST
> >From: Bakend AOL.COM
> >Subject: Re: FTE Small - Sliding Rear Window Question
> >Are you looking for the non slider one piece glass as in factory
> original? If
> Exactlt :)
>
> >you are anywhere near Denver I have the one they took out of my 87
> Ranger and
> >put in the slider. You are welcome to it for free. It will probably set
> around
> >here until it gets broken anyway!
> >Waht year is your truck? They are different for different years.
>
> Well, thanx for the offer, but I'll have to turn it down. It might fit,
> but i'm nowhere near Denver (Texas). Where did you go to get your slider
> installed? I'm sure the same type of place does regular windows to, but
> I have no idea where to call or what not. Thanx for any info.. :)
> Joe
>
> ______________________________________________________
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I do live in Texas and have a rear piece of glass sitting in my garage
from when I got a rear slider installed. If you are intrested in it, go
ahead an email me, I live in Houston.

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Date: Tue, 9 Feb 99 16:19:10 PST
From: don neomagic.com (Donald Paauw)
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Bronco II v8 kit

> I hope my question is not a beaten subject. I'm new to this list, so
> tolerate me please. I have a 1984 Bronco II 2.8 V 6 4wd C6 tarnny. I've been
> contemplating dropping in , so to speak, a small block Ford V8 as soon as I
> finish my 65 Ranchero restore. I've been told a company exists that markets
> a "kit. I found one in Texas, that has an overpriced kit ( over a $1000.00
> ). I met a guy at a meet who did the conversion on his Ranger and used a kit
> he obtained for $350.00 from an outfit in the Midwest. If anyone out there
> can lead me in the right direction, I will be forever indebted. Thanks in
> advance.
>

Check out http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9104 .
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Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 19:46:53 -0500
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - TSB's and visits to the factory...

Tom Watson wrote:
>
> I get from all the recent postings that the only "reasonable" way to get
> TSB on a vehicle is to obtain something like an AllData CD for the
> vehicle in question. The only problem that I see is that by the time
> mere mortals (like me) obtain something like the CD, it is out of date.

But there's people on here with access to the quarterly updated CDs at
the shop... I cant always get them researched in a timely manner, but
unless I start getting snowed with requests I dont mind an occasional
e-mail asking about a TSB. :-)

> they are known by most who do DIY stuff that
> they do in fact exist. I've seen the list of applicable TSB's on my
> '98 Explorer, and it is a few long.

Fairly short actually; wait until 2008 and look again! An 86 Taurus has
approx. 20+ SCREENFULLS just of titles.

> I'd just like to have them for
> "reference". Wouldn't you??

Certainly, but TSBs are in essence a report of common failures and the
fix/redesign involved; just because a symptom matches does NOT mean the
TSB will correct it, e.g.. a TSB about brakes grabbing due to humidity
sensitive lining material will not correct brakes grabbing due to a
leaky wheel cylinder or misadjustment of the brakes.

>
> Of course if this can be done, the next step is to get a manual set in
> PDF format on a CD-ROM. Now that would be "real nice"
>
> I suppose I'm dreaming..... (*SIGH*) Maybe if others dream, it will come
> true. I can only hope...

It cant hurt to write the OEMs and Haynes, Chilton, MOTOR etc!

Tim Turner/Manic Mechanic
Custer Auto Repair
Wilmington NC
manic1 bellsouth.net
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Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 19:30:26 -0500
From: Daner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Bronco II v8 kit

Try the following companies - sorry I don't have their phone numbers:

Advanced Adapters
Total Performance
James Duff




At 11:44 AM 2/9/99 -0500, Walt wrote:
>I hope my question is not a beaten subject. I'm new to this list, so
>tolerate me please. I have a 1984 Bronco II 2.8 V 6 4wd C6 tarnny. I've been
>contemplating dropping in , so to speak, a small block Ford V8 as soon as I
>finish my 65 Ranchero restore. I've been told a company exists that markets
>a "kit. I found one in Texas, that has an overpriced kit ( over a $1000.00
>). I met a guy at a meet who did the conversion on his Ranger and used a kit
>he obtained for $350.00 from an outfit in the Midwest. If anyone out there
>can lead me in the right direction, I will be forever indebted. Thanks in
>advance.
>
>Walt DiDomenico Deerfield Beach, FL
>
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Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 20:02:05 -0500
From: "Justin Kraynack"
Subject: FTE Small - Bronco II Paint codes

I have a 1990 Bronco II Eddie Bauer. A Few years ago, I was in an accident
that required replacing the drivers side door. That's where the paint codes
used to be! Anyone have the codes for this year? It's 2 toned green & tan.

Justin


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Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 20:53:23 -0500
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - DIY Manuals

rgstein pacbell.net wrote:
>
> D Baken wrote re:the Alldata CD ROM ---------------------
>
> > Richard
> Come on now, don't hold back. Tell us how you really feel!!
>
> Me -----------------------------------------------------------
> Ok, guys, herewith I spill the beans. I'm a technical writer. And I
> absolutely detest lousy manuals. They do get me pissed off.

AMEN!!! AllData uses the factory information and it's sadly wanting
sometimes. An Audi 88 heater core was basically: 1) remove steering
wheel 2) remove center console 3) remove dash 4) remove HVAC box. A
Better description and illustrations would have revealed it for the
nightmare it REALLY was. ( I wont complain about Taurii cores after
that thing!)

> What I want
> to read is a manual that I would have written myself.

Agreed.. the following is of course MHO but the factory information in
my specialty (engine performance) is best in GM products with Ford a
close second. Chrysler's tests are a joke resulting in many unnecessary
replacements of computers, Asian tests are abominable in pre '96 and
European vehicles are so proprietary it's ridiculous. (A Dodge
Stealth I worked on last year springs readily to mind; by all the
factory tests the computer was bad but in actuality there was NO 12V
feed at one pin of the computer that was never mentioned in the test..
I'm quite glad I convinced Kim to trade her Omni on a '93 Capri today!
)



> I write my manual
> from the perspective of the guy who is using it. For example, if I would
> do a DIY repair manual, I would first ask myself what the home fixer
> would need to know in advance of the job, and write to that.

As in the Audi example above it's start at the rear ashtray, work your
way forward showing where the screws ARE and so forth. It was asinine
the things I had to remove to uncover 'hidden' screws/bolts that were
never mentioned.

> For
> lubrication, I visualize myself squeezed under the vehicle, unable to
> see clearly, and think of what I want somebody to be telling me. Haynes
> does come half way at this.

I tend to agree; there's a Haynes manual stuffed somewhere in the
confines of all my vehicles for roadside repairs. (And a good stack of
'em from prior vehicles. )

>
> D Baken -----------------------------------------------------------
> I have been considering the alldata CD but after my visit to the site
> with a
> promise of a trial run (none left!) and your input I will look for
> something else.
>
> Me ------------------------------------------------------
>
> Whoa! Hold on!
> Remember that I said that the CD ROM has all the technical service
> bulletins for all Fords of that year. These appear quite usable on the
> disc. If you're not familiar with this term I'll explain. TSBs are all
> the "whoops, we blew it" remedies that alarmed the mfr after
> manufacture, sufficient enough to send them to all their dealers. I

Good definition! :-) And if they REALLY screwed the pooch it becomes a
recall.

> believe that they can be damn hard to come by for non-Ford professionals
> (unless they subscribe to an info source). The TSBs can clue you in to
> certain documented wierdnesses about your own vehicle.

Such as the Mitsubishi TSB involving rough idle due to improper radiator
installation. (Weird but true.)

> I forgot the
> mention that the disc also has all the factory recalls, too. You can
> get these elsewhere, too. But they still may be worth the price of the
> disc to you.

Recalls are readily available from the NHTSA site but I'm not sure about
the TSBs however.

>
> BTW: I called Alldata yesterday and they are sending me a replacement
> disc. I made a few suggestions about improving their product. It is
> now called, "Popular Mechanics." They do seem easy to deal with on the
> phone, but let's see how they really do (the last time they offered to
> replace my disc, they didn't follow through) So, the jury is out.

It depends on what you want; in general I've found them friendly and
easy to deal with, but one particular problem I found them to be very
hard-nosed about. (To be frank it was a way to use out dated CDs on
another machine at the shop, but NOT an unreasonable request as we
already had 2 blue timer keys and I just wanted one white one to access
older ones if the other machines were in use.)

>
> Tim Turner wrote ------------------------------
>
> Seems pretty basic.. either there's a grease zerk or there isnt and
> there's a dipstick on the P/S right?

> I guess they should include the
> EPA fuel mileage rating too.
>

I went a little far on the second one.. my apologies; sometimes I get
carried away or dont realise what y'all go through without lifts and
good lighting. :-( Still.. must have been a BAD day at work for me to
respond in that manner. (Or maybe a Tuesday.. I cant log on from
Sat-Mon. so I get a backlog on Tue. and might get a bit 'snippy' by the
200th mail) ;-)


> me -------------------------------------------------------------------
> Naw, Tim. You are a pro. I'm a great mechanic, but not great on
> vehicles, and I don't own a lift, so it's probable that there are things
> I won't see when flat on my back. That's why I'd appreciate the visual
> and listed info. I need to scope out a job in advance, so that I don't
> suddenly discover that I don't have enough ATF on hand to fill up the
> reservoir in order to go out and buy enough ATF to fill the reservoir.
> You know what I'm talking about, Tim. I know you do. I really know that
> you do. You have been there yourself. Right?

I do; as much as I TRY to avoid it I do still need to work on our
vehicles in the driveway/yard/roadside. Of course I try to bring home
the right tools in advance, but there's always at least ONE tool I didnt
requiring purchase at the moment. Always keep a back-up vehicle
handy for a quick part(s) run! My former boss wierded out one time and
was charging the techs a labor rate to work on their OWN vehicles OFF
the clock at the shop so I do have ramps, jack, stands, drain pan etc
(All bought the payday he announced same!) at the house but it's still
no substitute for a lift and compressor!

>
> Please don't take this the wrong way, Tim. I love your posts. Your
> head is on straight.

Not at all. (Taking the wrong way) It (my head) might have been a bit
off that night. (Jagermeister? )


I'll try to keep spouting good information, but being human I still err
from time to time.


TT
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Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 21:08:39 -0500
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Bronco II v8 kit

Walt wrote:
>
> I hope my question is not a beaten subject. I'm new to this list, so
> tolerate me please. I have a 1984 Bronco II 2.8 V 6 4wd C6 tarnny. I've been
> contemplating dropping in , so to speak, a small block Ford V8 as soon as I

I looked into this conversion myself as my '85 B-II 2.8 is getting tired
at 155K and with the emission laws in my state/county it was impossible
without retitling the vehicle, but were I to do it I'd go with the
set-up from 'Advance Adaptors' A quick surf to their site can get you a
catalog complete with prices for your swap. Using the C-6(?) tranny
will make it cheaper than what I came up with for retaining a manual
tranny.

TT
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Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 21:28:09 -0500
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Bronco II 4WD

Ryan Miller wrote:
>
> I have an '87 Bronco II XLT 4WD with the auto hubs. Lately, after I
> disengage the 4WD, I'll feel a hard thunk from the front after about a mile;
> kind of feels like hitting a rock in the road.

It's the overly stressed axle/hub FINALLY disengaging after storing an
incredible amount of torsional energy.

> Also, there is a strong
> vibration from the front until I stop and back up to take the hubs out.

Doing so is a MUST with auto hubs as soon as your 4x4 work is done else
they stay engaged and you are actually twisting your front drive axles
until they finally pop out. I foresee some expensive repairs in your
future. :-(

> assuming that both problems are related to the auto hubs. Does anyone know
> if that's the case? Also, is there some way to fix these things or is
> replacement the only option?

The proper dis-engagement procedure needs to be followed; if it STILL
sticks then there's a problem with the hubs themselves requiring
replacement of the hubs and possibly the axle shafts depending on the
severity of the damage.

>
> If I did replace them, I would go with manual hubs. Are they a bolt-in
> replacement?

I *THINK* the rotor/shaft is the same but I dont know for sure. I
certainly agree on the conversion to manual hubs; a call to Superwinch
would probably answer your question(s).

> Are any adapters or anything like that necessary? Will the
> "on-the-fly" 4WD button still work, as long as the hubs are engaged?

I suspect it would still work (assuming the hubs are left in the 'LOCK'
position) as all punching the button does is move an electric/vacuum
motor rather than you having to move a lever. I'm no fan of auto hubs
after some bad experiences with an Isuzu that had 'em and always let me
down in the rough.

TT
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Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 21:31:54 -0500
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - anti-sieze vs Loc-tite

Justin Kraynack wrote:
>
> The best thing to use on spark plugs is "dielectic tune-up grease". It's
> found in most auto parts stores. Permatex makes it. Really keeps the plugs
> and wires from sticking after a year or so.
>

Correct! On the inside of the boots or the outside of the insulators;
use anti-seize on the plug threads and this on the wires and plug
changes are (almost) a breeze. :-)

TT
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Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 21:51:11 -0500
From: Tim Turner
Subject: FTE Small - Grabby Brakes on Small FTs

- - Finally had a chance to look at the TSB (Ford # 97-14-16 titled "
Brakes - Grabbing and/or sticking during first few brake applications
after a rainfall and/or when brakes are cold".)

The main point is that the brake lining material is sensitive to
humidity. Clean everything and replace the shoes with the proper part
number (redesigned in '97 going by the #'s listed). This TSB applies to
'83-97 Ranger & '91-94 Explorer *IF* you want to use Ford brake shoes
the part #'s are:

F77Z-2200-AA 95-97 9" Drum
F77Z-2200-BA 95-97 10" Drum
F77Z-2200-CA 83-94 9" Drum
F77Z-2200-DA 83-94 10" Drum

This is eligible for warranty coverage for 93-97 models assuming other
conditions are met.


TT
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Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 18:53:21 PST
From: "Joe Mitchell"
Subject: FTE Small - FTE SMALL - bed cover for 91?

Hi all,
IN my pursuit of finding a bed cover (fiberglass, not soft) for a 91
Ford Ranger SWB, I have found only one which will fit and it is not
exactly what I'm looking for. I just want a regular fiberglass (locking)
bed cover to replace the soft cover I have now. If anyone out there has
or knows where I can find one, I'd appreciate any info. Thanx :)
Joe

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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 01:38:58 -0800
From: rgstein pacbell.net
Subject: FTE Small - Report: My Aerostar Doesn't Stink Now

A public "thank you" to Ken. My Aerostar doesn't stink any more. And,
it was exactly as you stated. After a little over one tankful of
Chevron regular, the rotten egg stink was gone. Now, that stench was
powerful bad.

I had been using Arco fuel. No more Arco for me! It ain't worth the
savings at any price. The machine runs better, too, without all that....


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