small-list-digest Friday, January 8 1999 Volume 03 : Number 003



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In this issue:

Re: FTE Small - Ranger mileage
Re: FTE Small - Ranger mileage
FTE Small - 98 Explorer - 4.0 SOHC
Re: FTE Small - Ranger mileage
FTE Small - Tailgate Question
Re: FTE Small - Tailgate Question
RE: FTE Small - Ranger mileage
FTE Small - Buying Advice for Ranger
Re: FTE Small - solenoid??
FTE Small - Re: Ranger mileage
FTE Small - Re: Ranger Mileage
FTE Small - pulse vacuum 4X4 engagement
FTE Small - 02 sensor
Re: FTE Small - 98 Explorer - 4.0 SOHC
Re: FTE Small - pulse vacuum 4X4 engagement
FTE Small - Your stereo and my ears
FTE Small - CD vs. Tape
FTE Small - Aerostar Heater Core: '92
FTE Small - tig welder
Re: FTE Small - Buying Advice for Ranger

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Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 05:37:58 EST
From: Bakend AOL.COM
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Ranger mileage

In a message dated 1/6/99 7:17:47 PM Mountain Standard Time,
ninjarider home.com writes:

> What are Ranger owners getting for mileage?
I get 20 mpg on my 4X4 1987 2.9 5 speed manual with 200K miles
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Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 07:09:49 -0500
From: "Bob Leifer"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Ranger mileage

'97 Ranger XLT regular cab, short bed, 3.0 liter, 4 speed auto: Low as 14
mpg in the streets to 23 mpg on the road.

Bob
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Sent: Thursday, January 07, 1999 5:37 AM
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Ranger mileage


>In a message dated 1/6/99 7:17:47 PM Mountain Standard Time,
>ninjarider home.com writes:
>
>> What are Ranger owners getting for mileage?
>I get 20 mpg on my 4X4 1987 2.9 5 speed manual with 200K miles
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Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 13:19:49 -0000
From: "Neil Brownlee"
Subject: FTE Small - 98 Explorer - 4.0 SOHC

Hi guys,

Hope you can help, I have a European Explorer which I think is a great
vehicle (although - no flames please - doesn't touch my 1978 SIII 109" Land
Rover offroad....). I have had more than a few dealer problems here, but the
worst and possibly most worrying is this :

When turning right at low speed (parking...) I get a grinding noise from the
front, not when I turn left...this is not on full lock btw. A Land Rover
mechanic has told me they had a similar problem and it was down to the power
steering fluid?

Anyway...so far this is what I have had done to the beasty....

1. TSB for locking throttle - new mats and modified throttle linkage
2. Moved Power Steering pipes (bad dealership.....overfilled my coolant by
1.5 litres (i.e. to the top of the expansion tank) and filled the oil to the
top..........ouch ON FIRST 10,000 MILE SERVICE)
3. Replaced Pipes and replaced fluid for power steering.
4. Replaced 3 CD auto changers!!!!
5. Replaced 2 Head Units!!
6. Fitted extra clamps to the exhaust.
7. Re-soundproofed the Rear Tailgate.
8. REFUSED to straighten rear bumper - she is 2cm's lower on the left......
9. Two undisclosed TSB's have been carried out. Dealer service girl didn't
know what they were...and no Service guys were around as I picked it up
late.
10. Replaced damaged external trim - got caught in a tree (don't ask!)
11. Light Panel Damage offroading.

She has done 16,300 miles, of which SOME have been extreme offroad. But all
the noises occurred BEFORE this. The Explorer is very good for towing the
109"!!!!!!!!!!

Also, the FORD engineer at the new dealership told me off for using 4x4 HIGH
and LOW offroad! I nearly swore! It was his opinion that these options
should have been removed prior to release in the UK! F**K him! How can I tow
out my 109" from a mud hole in 2nd high?????????????

Neil.

Please Help!

Northampton, United Kingdom.




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Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 07:40:51 -0800
From: Thom Cheney
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Ranger mileage

I own a '97 Ranger 4X4, Supercab STX. It has the 265/75 tires, 4.0 and
5 spd manual trans. With 15,000 miles on the odometer, I got 19 mpg hwy
driving with some mountains... it upped to 21 mpg on the Snake River
plain. I averaged 68 mph for the entire trip... stops included, so you
know I wasn't light on the gas pedal.
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Thom Cheney
tcgrafx... among other things
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Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 10:25:56 -0500
From: Jeff Masse
Subject: FTE Small - Tailgate Question

Hi everyone:

I'm new to the list, so a little introduction is in order.
I have a '96 Ranger STX 4x4. I am a huge Ford fan, and this is my second
Ranger.
I also own a '96 Cobra. My question is this:

My father owns an '89 Ranger with a 2.9. He recently hit a deer at high
speed which destroyed the front end. It had very low mileage so
insurance repaired it. Basically, the whole front is new with fresh
paint. However, his tailgate and rear bumper have gotten a little rusty.
He wants to find some used ones from a junkyard, paint them and replace.
Will tailgates from any Ranger fit his '89. If not, what years will fit?
What about bumpers?

Thanks!
Jeff Masse
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Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 11:49:57 -0500
From: Daner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Tailgate Question

Hi Jeff, technically Rangers from 82-88 are the same body styles (square
heads and front end),
89-92 are a bit mroe rounded, and 93-97 (I believe are grouped together)

I would hazard to guess that 82-92 would be the same tailgate, but 93 on
are different in styling and the way
they are actaully mounted to the truck box.



At 10:25 AM 1/7/99 -0500, Jeff Masse wrote:
>Hi everyone:
>
>I'm new to the list, so a little introduction is in order.
>I have a '96 Ranger STX 4x4. I am a huge Ford fan, and this is my second
>Ranger.
>I also own a '96 Cobra. My question is this:
>
>My father owns an '89 Ranger with a 2.9. He recently hit a deer at high
>speed which destroyed the front end. It had very low mileage so
>insurance repaired it. Basically, the whole front is new with fresh
>paint. However, his tailgate and rear bumper have gotten a little rusty.
>He wants to find some used ones from a junkyard, paint them and replace.
>Will tailgates from any Ranger fit his '89. If not, what years will fit?
>What about bumpers?
>
>Thanks!
>Jeff Masse
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Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 07:40:31 -0700
From: Dave Armbruster
Subject: RE: FTE Small - Ranger mileage

I have a '97 Supercab 4wd XLT with the 4.0L (with K&N and Borla) and 5
speed auto. I get an average of 18 mpg.

Dave
Denver, CO

> -----Original Message-----
>
> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 20:23:30 -0600
> From: "NinjaRider"
> Subject: FTE Small - Ranger mileage
>
> What are Ranger owners getting for mileage?
> I have a '97 with the 3.0 and 5 spd and am wondering what I should be
> getting for mileage. The truck has 6900 kms.....I am from Canada.
>
> Thanks, Peter.
>
>
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Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 15:10:53 -0700
From: "Billy Moore"
Subject: FTE Small - Buying Advice for Ranger

I am thinking of buying a late 80's - early 90's Ranger and I'm looking for
advice. I would like to get information on reliability of various years
and various components such as transmission, engine, etc. Is there a FAQ or
web site with this type information? I am looking for a daily driver that
will see light utility work. Thanks.

Billy Moore


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Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 19:44:41 -0500
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - solenoid??

charles rogers wrote:
>
> On my 86 Ranger I am having starter problems. When I hit the starter,
> it starts fine. But then the starter will not let go of the engine

The question is whether the solenoid is sticking and keeping the starter
cranking or is the starter not diengaging from the flywheel; grab a test
light and stick it on the starter side of the solenoid and see if it
goes out or stays on while it's not letting go (assistant would be handy
here!) If it goes OUT and the starter's still whirring merrily then get
a starter. If it stays ON then pull the small wire off and see if
quits; YES=probable bad ignition switch & NO=sticky solenoid.

> My query is this: is the solenoid to blame? With something like this, I
> should probably know the answer, but I don't. Nothing new there.

I think the above should cover it; any questions feel free to e-mail me
manic1 bellsouth.net or call my mobile 910-232-5624

Tim Turner/Manic Mechanic
Custer Auto Repair
Wilmington NC 910-791-4440
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Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 21:44:45 -0500
From: Christofer deHahn
Subject: FTE Small - Re: Ranger mileage

"NinjaRider" wrote:

>What are Ranger owners getting for mileage?
>I have a '97 with the 3.0 and 5 spd and am wondering what I should be
>getting for mileage. The truck has 6900 kms.....I am from Canada.

I have a new '99 4door Supercab, 4.0L, 5 speed, off-road package with 4K
miles. I'm getting between 17-19mpg mostly highway. The EPA sticker says
20mpg highway. I'm hoping to do better when it warms up around here. Do you
think the 4.10 rear wasn't factored into the EPA numbers on the sticker?

Chris


>
>
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Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 20:50:21 -0600
From: "John Cheyney RN, BSN, CCRN"
Subject: FTE Small - Re: Ranger Mileage

I get anywhere from 18 to 21mpg from my 1993 3.0L XLT Supercab. It is used primarily as a commuter vehicle around the Dallas/Fort Worth area.

John Cheyney RN, BSN, BA, CCRN

1213 McHam

Irving, Texas

75062


Email: cheyne19 idt.net

jcheyn childmed.dallas.tx.us


"For I know the plans I have for you," declares the Lord, "plans to
prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future."

Jeremiah 29:11
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Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 21:55:08 -0800
From: GEORGE WISEMAN
Subject: FTE Small - pulse vacuum 4X4 engagement

Have had quite a bit of a run-around with local Ford dealers about
availability of
manual shift transfer case/manual hubs on new Rangers. Most said it was
not
available...but one dealer insisted it was (via phone). Went down to
that dealer and
to confirm and again they said no problem. Still other dealers said
"no-way".
Go to order it and shure enuff, the dealer who said it was available
now back
peddles and says they were wrong. Anyway, they're all pushing this
vaccum
shift as the greatest thing since sliced bread, though no-one can seem
to explain
exactly how it works. (Obviously some sort of vacuum source and from
what
I've read there's a vacuum canister that's suppose to hold enough vacuum
to
engage the system for 36 hours).

Anyone know how the rest of the system works. I suppose the vaccum
actuates
a diaphragm that pulls a rod to engage the transfer case. I'm still
trying to figure
out how it locks the drive axles (or shafts) to the wheel? I don't
think it's the type
of hub locking mechanism I'm familar with as it doesn't seem that you
can even
purchase after market locking hubs for it. Makes me think that the
drive axle/shaft
is locked inboard where the axle/shaft comes out of the front rear end
assembly.

Would appreciate the groups input on how it works and if anyone has
pro's/con's
or heard any probs associated with this system. I suppose it could be
worse...
like GM's thermal actuator system in cold climates to engage 4X4!


Tnx,

Geo.

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Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 10:10:47 -0500
From: luke wells
Subject: FTE Small - 02 sensor

how would i go about changing the o2 sensor in myt 96 ford ranger 2.3
liter thanks

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Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 22:22:42 -0500
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - 98 Explorer - 4.0 SOHC

Neil Brownlee wrote:
>
> Hi guys,
>
> Hope you can help, I have a European Explorer which I think is a great
> vehicle (although - no flames please - doesn't touch my 1978 SIII 109" Land
> Rover offroad....).

No flame from ME! The Rover was designed for such use regularly and
road use as a way to get TO the off-road.. the latest American products
are just road cruisers that happen to be able to go off-road. To get
close to the Rover's performance you'd need to spend many $ (Pounds in
your case, err.. Euro's rather). For the 'Normal' buyer in N.A. the
Explorer & Expedition are great, but not as capable as the old Bronco
and Bronco-II they replaced. (But more comfortable than the older ones
since the 'gentry' has taken a shine to the so called SUV.)

> Anyway...so far this is what I have had done to the beasty....



> (bad dealership..... filled the oil to the
> top..........ouch ON FIRST 10,000 MILE SERVICE)

I assume you mean until it was running out the rocker cover.. sheesh! I
remember a 'newby' asking me about how much oil to put in a Honda, after
he was up to 5L in what's usually a 3.5L; I pull the stick and tell him
it's OVERfull and he says "I didnt see it yet".. (He turned into a good
alignment man later, but that wasnt a good sign!) Assuming it wasnt
driven much until the extra few Litres were drained I wouldnt expect any
later damage, but if it had been driven LOTS with that much oil I'd
raise a stink like anchovies on a hot exhaust.

> 8. REFUSED to straighten rear bumper - she is 2cm's lower on the left......

Needs to be addressed.. my front bumper isnt that much higher on the
left and bugs me everytime I look at it (due to previous owner's
activities rather than factory defect).

> 9. Two undisclosed TSB's have been carried out. Dealer service girl didn't
> know what they were...and no Service guys were around as I picked it up
> late.

Probably related to the injection system; call back and ask until you
find out.

> 10. Replaced damaged external trim - got caught in a tree (don't ask!)
> 11. Light Panel Damage offroading.

I see you enjoy the tight twisties like I do ;-) If the mirrors didnt
get folded back it wasnt tight enough.

>
> She has done 16,300 miles, of which SOME have been extreme offroad. But all
> the noises occurred BEFORE this. The Explorer is very good for towing the
> 109"!!!!!!!!!!

Does the UK have something like the US's lemon law? (Repeated visits to
the dealer for the same problem without resolution qualifies you for
another vehicle.) Some vehicles just dont get put together well.. It
sounds like you've had 105K Km worth of problems in 16K!

>
> Also, the FORD engineer at the new dealership told me off for using 4x4 HIGH
> and LOW offroad! I nearly swore!

Unless he thought you were switching betwixt 'em while moving he's
rather off-road ignorant isnt he?

> It was his opinion that these options
> should have been removed prior to release in the UK!

It's my opinion he should have been removed from his JOB before the
release.. Stupid git.. If they wanted to reduce the options make it
full-time 4 and 4 Lo. I'm sure your area is different, but ALL my 4wd
ventures are performed in low with few exceptions since I'm sand/mud low
speed oriented.

> F**K him! How can I tow
> out my 109" from a mud hole in 2nd high?????????????

Abuse the Heck outta the clutch so they can install a new one! If
you cant get satisfaction from the dealer then go over their head; find
the AREA rep and raise Cain, keep going up the chain if you must..
Threats to buy another Rover instead may help.. It sounds like you've
been through a lot already; give 'em Hell.


>
> Neil.
>
> Please Help!
>

Hope this helps Neil; unsure of the laws there, but fight for what you
can get!

Tim Turner/Manic Mechanic
Custer Auto Repair
Wilmington NC USA
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Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 23:39:16 -0500
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - pulse vacuum 4X4 engagement

GEORGE WISEMAN wrote:
>
> Have had quite a bit of a run-around with local Ford dealers about
> availability of
> manual shift transfer case/manual hubs on new Rangers.

> Anyway, they're all pushing this
> vaccum
> shift as the greatest thing since sliced bread,

Which was better; grandma's homemade bread with real butter or
commercial sliced bread with oleo..

> though no-one can seem
> to explain
> exactly how it works.

Instead of direct linkages you're relying on vacuum motors (and hoses);
depending on the system possibly electric motors/solenoids. As far as
the tranny and T-case are concerned there's no change; it's just that
something other than the driver moves the linkages. (Similar to power
locks; you dont move the lever a motor does). As to 'auto hubs' they
react to an input once they see an input (front shaft turning);
unfortunately this can take 10 Ft to happen.. (The usual reason newby's
get stuck.. if you're spinning it's too late to engage AUTO hubs..
manual hubs would get you out though.)

> engage the system for 36 hours).

When new..

> trying to figure
> out how it locks the drive axles (or shafts) to the wheel?

I think it's still the same old reactive type of hub; seems like black
magic even to me after 15 years of working on vehicles.

> I don't
> think it's the type
> of hub locking mechanism I'm familar with as it doesn't seem that you
> can even
> purchase after market locking hubs for it.

Yet.. I'm sure a call to 'Superwinch" might be revealing.

I *HOPE* there's still an option for manual hubs and case; I wont accept
anything else and if Ford wont offer it then I'll have to look elsewhere
if I ever total my old B-II.

TT
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Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 20:43:00 -0800
From: Richard
Subject: FTE Small - Your stereo and my ears

Jim, "FrdRngrLvr AOL.COM" wrote:
> Subject: Re: FTE Small - Speakers, etc.
>
> Yeah but there is nothing wrong with a nice low hitting, back sahking system,
> aslong as it is not played obnixiously. For instance my system never gets
> turned up after 9pm so nobody has to hear/feel me go by when they are trying
> to sleep..

Jim, I want you and many others with high-powered systems to get the
point: if I'm in my house and I hear your stereo at _any time of day or
night_ you are disturbing the peace inside my house. When I am
listening to quiet music in my living room and you go by with your
system turned up, you destroy my experience within the privacy of my own
home. This is intolerable. If I can hear your stereo, even quietly, I
assure you that it is obnoxious.

It is also against the law in California if your stereo is audible fifty
feet from your vehicle. There is a reason for this law. People deserve
to be left alone. This includes sound.

Richard


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Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 20:59:22 -0800
From: Richard
Subject: FTE Small - CD vs. Tape

In order to compare the quality of CD vs. tape sound in a car, you have
to do it right. For instance, when evaluating the tape, did you listen
to it on a receiver with Dolby? Were you using at least Type II tape?

1. Almost all tape car stereos, including expensive ones, don't include
Dolby circuits. They also don't include a high-bias tape matching
switch. "Dynamic Noise Reduction" is just a cheap-out: it is another
mismatch. DNR costs perhaps 25 cents, against $1.50 paid to Ray Dolby
for the real thing. Playing a Dolby tape through a DNR circuit will
still sound wrong.

2. Virtually all commercial music tapes are Dolby-encoded.

3. Playing a Dolby tape on a non-Dolby macine is a mismatch: the result
is harsh sound. Vice/versa is also true.

4. Similarly, the sound will be mis-equalized if you play a Type II
("chrome") or type IV ("metal") tape on a machine that is set up to only
match "normal" tape.

5. On most car stereo systems, regardless of price, tapes will sound
lousy because the machines can't match them.

6. Tape quality has improved. I am presently experimenting with some
cheap Type I cassettes with fairly difficult music. I am pushing the
tape really hard: I'm running peaks to plus 4 dB. The tape is taking it
just fine. On the material I'm working with, Dolby isn't even needed.

7. If you are playing cassette tapes loud enough to hear the tape hiss
distinctly, I figure that either you are playing them on the typical
"too cheap to provide Dolby" car stereo, or you are running the sound so
loud that you are damaging your hearing. Better begin to check out
hearing aids.

8. I'm not disputing that CDs deliver a superb dynamic range (is it a
90dB signal/noise ratio?). It's just that I figure that if you are
listening to rock music in a truck cab and you can hear the hiss, either
the system is the typical mismatch job, or something else is wrong.

Richard


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Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 21:12:12 -0800
From: Richard
Subject: FTE Small - Aerostar Heater Core: '92

ALFRED BROWN wrote-------------------------

Good Afternoon,

Hope everyone has a prosperous New Year. I have a 1992 Aerostar and
would like to know how much to replace a Heater Core.

My Reply------------------------------------------------

Ouch!! A nasty job.
Recently had it done on my '92 Aerostar. After obtaining the info, I
decided to have it done professionally.

Here's what I can say:

1. You must use a special $50 tool that's available from Napa. It is
called a "Ford Aerostar Heater Core Removal Tool." No joke! You cannot
get the hoses off the core without this tool. You can see a picture of
it in the Haynes manual; official Ford books, etc. Now, it is not a
complicated thing: a friend of mine with an '80s Aerostar just made
one. But do study the pictures and look carefully below the hood first
to get an idea of why that tool is a must. That heater core is
mightily-obstructed. Not as obstructed, though, as it is in a Taurus.
Ford has this thing about your heater cores (it is called "contempt").

2. My mechanic blew my AC refrigerant into the ionisphere in order to
get at the core. Many mechanics do this, and it may be simply required
(the Ford dealer said this was probably neccessary, too). He charged me
over $100 for replacement R-12.

3. A few people have recommended "4 Winds"-brand heater cores.

4. Blowing R-12 into the air carries a stiff fine in California. I fired
my mechanic (he was charging me stiff unusual fees for other things,
too).

Hope this helps.

Richard....


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