small-list-digest Wednesday, February 3 1999 Volume 03 : Number 029



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In this issue:

FTE Small - Re: This is my second post, please help if anyone can
FTE Small - North American Auto Show Pics
FTE Small - Radio pin-out
FTE Small - anti-sieze vs Loc-tite
Re: FTE Small - RE: Noisy tranny
Re: FTE Small - RE: Noisy tranny
RE: FTE Small - tailgating question
FTE Small - BII Question
FTE Small - Re: BII Question
RE: FTE Small - tailgating question
RE: FTE Small - Re: BII Question
FTE Small - Temp on Eddie Bauer Explorer
Re: FTE Small - Bronco II Brake cable
Re: FTE Small - Replace 2.9, or upgrade to a 4.0
Re: FTE Small - Temp on Eddie Bauer Explorer
Re: FTE Small - Aerostar wheel and tire upgrade
Re: FTE Small - Explorer
FTE Small - Anyone else have a 5.0L EFI RANGER??

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Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 07:54:29 -0800
From: "Pete Lawless"
Subject: FTE Small - Re: This is my second post, please help if anyone can

>>I have a 88 Bronco II. The 2.9 that's in it is shot. Would it be better
>to
>>replace the 2.9, with a remanufactured one, or get a remanufactured 4.0.
I
>>have a 5 speed manual, and it's a 4X4. I can get a 4.0 for $500 less
that
>>the 2.9. What modifications would I have to make for the 4.0 to fit.
>Would


I (we) rebuilt my 2.9 with very good results about 18k ago. What I found
was that everything (including specialty mods like headers) for a 2.9 seems
to be quite expensive compared to other engines. i.e.: rebuild kit for 2.9
is way more expensive than same type kit for 302. Volume, I guess. I have a
brother that's a professional mechanic (so some osmosis has taken place
over the years) that gets volunteered to help out, so I don't have the big
outside labor bills involved. Also, there are many more performance items,
etc. available for 4.0 than the 2.9, if that is something you're interested
in. If I were to do it all over again, I would probably swap in the 4.0 and
build it.

Later.... Pete
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Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 11:24:28 -0500
From: "Mike McNany"
Subject: FTE Small - North American Auto Show Pics

Looking at the Blackwood's photos at
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lincolnvehicles.com/blackwood/blackwood.html prompted me to look
for more. Found 'em and a lot more at
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.auto.com/99autoshow/art/index.htm . Check it out. Also found out
the F150 Crew cab's bed will be 5 &1/2 foot. Blackwood will probably be the
same. Sport Trac is the Explorer version. Other info on these models is
available at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www2.ford.com/pressarchive.asp and
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www2.ford.com/utilities/news/newspopup.asp.
Mike the exLT

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Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 09:45:23 -0800
From: Richard
Subject: FTE Small - Radio pin-out

John, check the Haynes Aerostar manual. Mine carries a 1994 copyright
and the audio wiring, including pin codes, are on p. 12-28. The Haynes
Aerostar manual has grown since my version, and looks a lot better than
mine for the later Aeros (saw it at Pep Boys, but didn't check to see if
the radio page is still there).

Should be a decent basement radio with just-about-adequate oputput power
and better bass than you heard from the stock speaker installation. You
may be very surprised. Use high-efficiency (minimum 90 db/watt) 4-ohm
bass reflex speakers to get adequate output; with the usual 8 ohm home
speakers, the radio will only deliver half the sound. And, dig it,
you'll even have a Dolby tape player. Hell, you can make a nice power
supply with a car battery and trickle charger.

John wrote ------------------------------------------------------
I need the pin out for a radio that was in our 92
aerostar. The wife totaled it and I pulled the radio and would
like to put it in the basement shop on a dc power supply.

Me again --------------------------------------------------------

I feel your sorrow and pain over the loss of your good friend, and
extend my condolences. When my '74 Honda Civic died, I kept a part of
it, too: the steering wheel logo pad. Too bad I didn't keep the car. I
could put it inside my Aerostar, and drive the whole mess over a cliff.

Richard

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Date: Tue, 2 Feb 99 15:54:30 PST
From: don neomagic.com (Donald Paauw)
Subject: FTE Small - anti-sieze vs Loc-tite

I've seen several posts that advise using anti-sieze when bolting into aluminum,
especially on spark plugs. Recently, I pulled out my transfer case and removed
bolts from it & the transmission, both of which look like they have aluminum cases.
The bolts from each had an orange sealer that acted like Loc-tite blue. So, my
question is: exactly where and when should anti-sieze be used.
Also, does Loc-tite act as anti-sieze (even if it doesn't cover all of the threads)?
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Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 19:03:29 EST
From: Bakend AOL.COM
Subject: Re: FTE Small - RE: Noisy tranny

In a message dated 2/1/99 8:15:01 PM Mountain Standard Time,
no_limit_2_this hotmail.com writes:

>
> Is there any way to prevent this? I have noticed the same thing, but not
> very loud and only occurs 50% of driving time, so I'm thinking it might
> be in an early stage of it....
> Joe
>
Does the noise occur in certain gears (overdrive in particular)?
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Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 19:02:15 EST
From: Bakend AOL.COM
Subject: Re: FTE Small - RE: Noisy tranny

In a message dated 2/1/99 8:15:01 PM Mountain Standard Time,
no_limit_2_this hotmail.com writes:

>
> Is there any way to prevent this? I have noticed the same thing, but not
> very loud and only occurs 50% of driving time, so I'm thinking it might
> be in an early stage of it....
> Joe
>
Not according to my trans mechanic. He claims that the damage has been done by
the time you notice the chattering and it is just a matter of time til it
goes. He says that it has been too hot by the time you notice it and the parts
are like crystallized. It is due to the design of the overdrive (and then some
other technical gear stuff). Remember though, this is his opinion as a
professional transmission mechanic that loves the Mitsu 5 speed. In fact, the
one he sold me was one he had rebuilt and was ready to install in his own BII.
Personally, I know I wasted some money trying to save mine, but at least now I
know that I needed a complete rebuild. I ran it a long time and it kept just
getting louder and louder as time and miles went by. I decided to take it on
vacation so I rebuilt it with the new bearings and all but then it failed
terribly in South Dakota. He said that if I had replaced the counter shaft and
syncros I might have been ok. I wish you luck in what ever way you decide to
go
D Baken
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Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 20:19:15 -0600
From: "Anthony Rio"
Subject: RE: FTE Small - tailgating question

It's suppose to be 500 on the F150... would guess slightly less or the same
on a ranger

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-small-list ford-trucks.com
> [mailto:owner-small-list ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of Donald Canavan
> Sent: Monday, February 01, 1999 8:46 AM
> To: small-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: FTE Small - tailgating question
>
>
> Anybody know how much weight a tail gate in the down position on a
> ranger can hold?
> Thanks
> Don
>
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Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 18:18:16 PST
From: "Joe Mitchell"
Subject: FTE Small - BII Question

Simple question:
What was the last production year for the BII, and does anyone know
*why*?
Joe

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Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 21:43:20 -0500
From: J Cope
Subject: FTE Small - Re: BII Question

It was whenever they started making Explorers, so I think it was 93.

No, I have NO idea why they stopped. I suppose it was the same logic that
said "The fullsize Bronco and the Expedition are the same thing, why would
we need both??" when they decided to completely discontinue the Bronco
line...

JC


Simple question:
What was the last production year for the BII, and does anyone know
*why*?
Joe
>>

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Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 19:47:45 -0700
From: "M. Monninger"
Subject: RE: FTE Small - tailgating question

Seems to me I remember 350 lb being the limit on the Ranger. I don't have
the manual handy, tho.

At 08:19 PM 2/2/99 -0600, you wrote:
>It's suppose to be 500 on the F150... would guess slightly less or the same
>on a ranger
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-small-list ford-trucks.com
>> [mailto:owner-small-list ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of Donald Canavan
>> Sent: Monday, February 01, 1999 8:46 AM
>> To: small-list ford-trucks.com
>> Subject: FTE Small - tailgating question
>>
>>
>> Anybody know how much weight a tail gate in the down position on a
>> ranger can hold?
>> Thanks
>> Don
>>
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Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 21:45:59 -0600
From: "Anthony Rio"
Subject: RE: FTE Small - Re: BII Question

The last year for the Bronco II (from what I know) was 1990. The Explorer
was introduced in 1991 (as something other than an option package on the
full sized f-series.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-small-list ford-trucks.com
> [mailto:owner-small-list ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of J Cope
> Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 1999 8:43 PM
> To: Small Trucks Mailing List (E-mail)
> Subject: FTE Small - Re: BII Question
>
>
> It was whenever they started making Explorers, so I think it was 93.
>
> No, I have NO idea why they stopped. I suppose it was the same
> logic that
> said "The fullsize Bronco and the Expedition are the same thing,
> why would
> we need both??" when they decided to completely discontinue the Bronco
> line...
>
> JC
>
>
> Simple question:
> What was the last production year for the BII, and does anyone know
> *why*?
> Joe
> >>
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Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 22:09:08 -0600
From: "Anthony Rio"
Subject: FTE Small - Temp on Eddie Bauer Explorer

My wife drives a 95 Eddie Bauer 4 door 4x4 Explorer with the SOHC 6 cyl. I
noticed that the temp gauge only ever seems to climb just to the lowest part
of the normal range (right at the "C"). I noticed this when the outside temp
was about +20f. Any one else notice this? Is this normal? The truck is
rather new to us (last 12 mo. or so) and I am not very familiar with it. (I
don't get to drive it too often.) I know my F150 pretty well, but the wife
doesn't trust me much with her ride.

Thanks!!!


> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-small-list ford-trucks.com
> [mailto:owner-small-list ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of M. Monninger
> Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 1999 8:48 PM
> To: small-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: RE: FTE Small - tailgating question
>
>
> Seems to me I remember 350 lb being the limit on the Ranger. I don't have
> the manual handy, tho.
>
> At 08:19 PM 2/2/99 -0600, you wrote:
> >It's suppose to be 500 on the F150... would guess slightly less
> or the same
> >on a ranger
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: owner-small-list ford-trucks.com
> >> [mailto:owner-small-list ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of Donald Canavan
> >> Sent: Monday, February 01, 1999 8:46 AM
> >> To: small-list ford-trucks.com
> >> Subject: FTE Small - tailgating question
> >>
> >>
> >> Anybody know how much weight a tail gate in the down position on a
> >> ranger can hold?
> >> Thanks
> >> Don
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Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 23:34:47 -0500
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Bronco II Brake cable

Jason Talbot wrote:
>
> > I have a 88 Bronco II.
> > Also, I just replaced my AC compressor. I bought a new one from ford
> >directly. It's really noisy though. I heard most ford truck compressors
> >are. Is this true? Or is the new compressor bad. It seems to work fine.
> >If anyone can help? Please do.

Yep.. Noise is the nature of the beast; beware of 'black death' in the
FX (FS?) series of compressors though. Post your query on
aircondition.com for LOTS of good replies. :-)

TT
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Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 23:40:45 -0500
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Replace 2.9, or upgrade to a 4.0

Jason Talbot wrote:
>
> I have a 88 Bronco II. The 2.9 that's in it is shot. Would it be better to
> replace the 2.9, with a remanufactured one, or get a remanufactured 4.0. I
> have a 5 speed manual,

Do *MUCH* research on the laws in your area. Amazingly enough where I
live I cannot swap my carb'd 2.8 for a FI 2.9/4.0 even though it'd be
much cleaner.. (The theory is that it wasnt approved then I guess..)
IF it's an option in your area then by all means proceed! There's been
mails referencing this swap earlier and I'm sure someone can point you
to the good information.


TT/MM
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Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 23:33:48 EST
From: Bakend AOL.COM
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Temp on Eddie Bauer Explorer

In a message dated 2/2/99 9:09:08 PM Mountain Standard Time,
trio tigroupchicago.com writes:

> My wife drives a 95 Eddie Bauer 4 door 4x4 Explorer with the SOHC 6 cyl. I
> noticed that the temp gauge only ever seems to climb just to the lowest
part
> of the normal range (right at the "C"). I noticed this when the outside
temp
> was about +20f. Any one else notice this? Is this normal? The truck is
>
My wife just got a 95 and it did the same thing. I replaced the thermostat and
now it runs just below mid-range and the heater blows much better heat and it
seems to run better as well.
Hope this helps
D baken
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Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 23:56:54 -0500
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Aerostar wheel and tire upgrade

Richard wrote:
>
> Wayne Haley wrote last week------------------
>
> Hello, I am a brand new subscriber with a 1993 Aerostar Sport.
>
> Me:
> "Aerostar Sport?" You joke, sir. "Ha Ha!"
>

> What I can't figure
> out is that despite running at low pressure, the tires appear to be
> wearing in the middle: signs of overinflation. The back seats are in
> place, and I don't haul loads.

Stock wheels? If the replacement wheel does not have the same 'offset'
then the center of the load doesnt fall in the correct place and odd
tire wear comes into play; also a different size tire than original may
need an inflation adjustment. A look at a tire dealer's 'tire guide'
will reveal lots of un-known information regarding replacing the
originals with another size.


>
> I recently was given permission to drive a '94 with the OEM Michelin
> XW4s for a few blocks around my neighborhood. This was the long version
> with 4.0 and the one-size-up tire that Ford often provides for this
> model. 225/70R14. In comparison with mine, the OEM tires soaked up the
> bumps with blessed relief. There was a slight performance reduction:
> steering was wider; there was more side-slip. However the handling
> still felt predictable and reliable enough so that the trade-off for the
> wide tires didn't seem worth it in orthopedic doctor bills and
> suspension failures. Yet, I got to twirl the steering wheel a bit more
> than I like.

Personal opinion but I wouldnt have a Michelin.. Miserable tire to
mount from the 'tire-changers' POV and I've never had good service out
of one with my heavy foot. I'd take a CHEAP Bridgestone over any Mickey
in a heartbeat.

>
> One tire I've been considering is the top Michelin X-One touring tire,
> or its club equivalent: the "X Radial Plus." This is a
> current-technology tire with improvements all around. Don't confuse
> this club tire with another club model: "X Radial," which I've seen
> reported as a real bone cruncher on an Aerostar.
>

B'stone RE-9000 or Eager.. I just dont like Mickey's.

TT/MM
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Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 00:02:38 -0500
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Explorer

Bakend AOL.COM wrote:
>
> In a message dated 1/26/99 8:50:02 PM Mountain Standard Time,
> manic1 bellsouth.net writes:
>
> >

> >
> Wife says no slight taken!

Whoo! Glad of that :-)

> to about 80K miles and then be on my own again about the time the real
> problems begin, and have cost $1400.

That's the gamble.. will the prob's begin before or AFTER that point..
For me it's easy, but my OWN labor is free.. You must make your own
choice. :-)

Goota run; but for more input mail back.

TT
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Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 01:48:36 -0500
From: Daner
Subject: FTE Small - Anyone else have a 5.0L EFI RANGER??

Well I dropped in a new/used '92 (with 15,000 kms) T-5 and new FMS HD
clutch and pressure plate and speedo gear On Friday night. Huge
improvement! Since when I dropped the '90 5.0L motor back in August '98
(and have since gone over 7,900 kms) I never put on a new pressure plate.

We setup the clutch so it gets full bite about an inch off the floor. Works
great for launches and now that I have 5th gear, I can cruise around
100km/h or 65 mph under 2000 rpm. This week I have to set the 1.6 roller
rockers, since they have a little 'ticking' noise.
All and all, with everything done since the end of the '98 race season (see
below), I think the Ranger will do low 13's as it sits now, only to add
90/10 drag shocks up front.

UPGRADES since October '98 - BEST TIME then was 14.037 95.52 mph with 1.8
sixty foot times:

351 Windsor heads with 1.94 intake and 1.60 exhaust, screw-in studs
1.6 Crane Roller Rockers
FMS HD clutch and pressure plate
T-5 with 5th! :)
24# injectors
65mm Throttle body
75mm MAS calibrated for 24#'s....


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