small-list-digest Sunday, January 24 1999 Volume 03 : Number 019



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In this issue:

Re:Re: FTE Small - My Aerostar Stinks!
Re: FTE Small - Starting problems on a 93 Ranger
[none]
RE: FTE Small - Your stereo and my ears
RE: FTE Small - Power
FTE Small - Re: Small radiator
Re: FTE Small - Power
FTE Small - Re: Power
FTE Small - 86 Ranger
FTE Small - Re:
Re: FTE Small - Re:
FTE Small - Re: BII engine rebuild -- Misc questions

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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 09:44:42 -0500
From: "Mike McNany"
Subject: Re:Re: FTE Small - My Aerostar Stinks!

Ed Minner states" I live in Australia and I have no idea what an Aerostar
is, perhaps you can enlighten me. I have a 1997 Ford Explorer and it does
not stink, as a matter of fact I love it. I think Fords are the best cars,
trucks, whatever on the road."

Well Ed, I don't think anyone would bother being on the list if they didn't
feel the same way. The stench was literal not figuratively on the Aerostar.
The Aerostar was a Ford of America's first passenger minivan. Built for the
most part on a Ranger chassis, it used a welded on boxed frame on the rear,
almost a modified unibody. Short vertical grill with the hood and enormous
windshield slanted at about a 45 degree angle. Looked like a door stop.
Think they came out in 84 and last year was 95 (I'm sure some one will
correct me). They had the 3.0L. On later models with an extended length and
all wheel drive versions had the 4.0. I had an 88 and traded it on a 92
explorer. Very roomy 8 passenger unit, rear wheel drive. Both rear seats
removed so it had great versatility. Loved it, not one problem, wouldn't
have traded it, even for the explorer but suddenly became single again.
Great tow vehicle for up to 6,000 lbs.
Tried to keep it concise, Mike

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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 07:11:54 -0800 (PST)
From: Bill Ciocco
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Starting problems on a 93 Ranger

..Hi all, I hope someone can help.
..I have a 93 ranger with the 4 liter v6. Recently I have had
..some problems starting it, even if Its warmed up. I can crank it over
..as long as I want, and it wont start, then if I pause, then try
again, ..it reluctantly fires up. Any help would be greatly
appreciated. I ..already put brand new plugs and a new fuel filter in
the thing. Thanks

I had the same problem w/ my BII. I reset the fuel pump relay that
shuts off for accidents and have not had a problem since. Wouldn't
hurt to try it. It's free.

Bill



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DO YOU YAHOO!?

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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 12:45:50 -0500
From: "Eric Davis"
Subject: [none]

Anyone know where I can get Edlebrock shocks for my 98 Ranger, I can not
find them anywhere.

Eric Davis
98 4x4 Ranger,
Edlebrock muffler, K&N.


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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 13:41:58 -0500
From: Burnett
Subject: RE: FTE Small - Your stereo and my ears

Richard wrote:
> Burnett wrote ----------------------------------
>
> hey richard..it was not unanmous
>
Sorry Richard, but this post was not from me. Please don't attribute things
to me that I didn't post.

As I have clearly stated before, have consideration for your 'neighbors'
when cruisin'. So your original post was accurate - it was unanimous!!

That having been said, I don't try to enforce my tastes in music or
listening style on anyone else! I don't know why someone would NEED four
12" subs in a Ranger, but if their budget and preferences lean that way
then go for it. Just have a little respect when playing it. (I personally
go for a drive on the interstate when I just have to get a high-volume
'fix'.)

This thread was started by someone looking for a way to put 12s in their
Ranger cab. I still don't have a suggestion for how to do this, but I do
have one for getting better bass. If the Ranger is like my Bronco II, the
door has a factory location down low that will hold a 6 1/2" speaker. Since
mounting a coaxial down there just kills the imaging, why not rig a way to
mount your coaxes (or even separates) higher up on the door, and mount a 6"
or 8" bass driver in the factory hole? (This might require some fabrication
work.) Run these in parallel with any other subs you have (the original
post mentioned 8" subs) to supplement the bass. I'm planning to try a
similar setup with two 6" mid-bass drivers per door to supplement two 8"
subs in a box in the back.

This setup would also prevent the problem I often notice where the bass
seems to come from the back of the truck while the rest of the music comes
from the front (for some reason I find this noticeable even with a properly
set up crossover.) This effect probably wouldn't be a problem in a standard
cab Ranger, however the multiple bass drivers still might sweeten the bass
a little :-)

Burnett 89 BII
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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 13:50:11 -0500
From: Burnett
Subject: RE: FTE Small - Power

Ken St.John wrote:
> I have a question about headers...I was thinking about getting a pair but
> when I asked about emissions testing, they stated that they were illegal
and
>
> Is this a Utah law or what?

This is probably specific to Utah. Even here in NJ where they use a
sniffer, you can use headers. The requirement is that your vehicle must
still pass the test.

Most headers even come with a fitting for installing the O2 sensor(s) that
most newer vehicles have. Without the sensor, your driveability and
emissions would go to pot.

Just a thought, but check out the web site for JBA. They claim that their
headers are 50-state legal. You might even want to call them to see what
they know about Utah's requirements.

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.jbaracing.com

Hope this helps!!

Burnett 89 BII
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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 14:01:42 -0500
From: Harold Bucks
Subject: FTE Small - Re: Small radiator

Sean,
I have a 4.0L '98 Ranger without a payload package and have the cooler.
I've owned a few Ford trucks/Bronco's and all of them had a loop of
tubing fastened to the frame to sink away heat from the power steering
system. I spoke to a Ford engineer some time ago and he indicated that
Ford was considering better cooling for both transmissions and power
steering systems. They felt the cost of the coolers would be offset by
fewer warranty claims. I'm not sure if this is a result of that
thinking or not. Perhaps there is an engineer lurking out there that
would like to respond to this issue ;-)
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Sean Wrote:
> I finally finished shoveling the driveway, the roof, the garage,
> etc. etc. etc. and crawled under the truck to find out where the lines
> from the small rad went. Sure enough, they went straight to the power
> steering.
>
> Under what conditions does the power steering fluid overheat? And is
> this a stock feature or only with the optional payload package?
>
> Just trying to learn more about my Ranger,
> Sean

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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 15:31:37 -0500
From: "Anthony Rifici"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Power

>Ken St.John wrote:
>> I have a question about headers...I was thinking about getting a pair but
>> when I asked about emissions testing, they stated that they were illegal
>and
>>
>> Is this a Utah law or what?
>

>Burnett wrote:
>This is probably specific to Utah. Even here in NJ where they use a
>sniffer, you can use headers. The requirement is that your vehicle must
>still pass the test.
>
>Just a thought, but check out the web site for JBA. They claim that their
>headers are 50-state legal. You might even want to call them to see what
>they know about Utah's requirements.


Defiantly read the emissions requirements for Utah yourself. I would
probably be willing to bet that you'll find out that their legal. It might
be the way that you posed the question to your inspection station.
"Modifications" to the emissions system are illegal, but there are legal
modifications. i.e. headers may be a modification, but you still pass
sniffer, which is the point of all this BS. Plus, some of these emissions
station staff aren't the most brilliant people anyway or very knowledgeable
of the law. I remember a news story when they just started testing where I
live that told of an inspection station that was confused when someone came
in with dual exit exhausts. They only had one collector for one exhaust
pipe. Of course, it may be a freak law specific to Utah.

Tony
94 Ranger Supercab, 4.0L, 5-Speed


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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 12:00:48 -0800
From: "Pete Lawless"
Subject: FTE Small - Re: Power

Ken St.John wrote:
>I have a question about headers...

Must be Utah (or your county)... that's strange because most performance
mods (including many types of headers) seem to use the fraise "50 state
emissions legal", Allot of times you'll see, "Emissions Legal (except
California)". Here they have to be CARB certified (California Air Resources
Board). My JBA headers have a small CARB cert. plate tack welded on one
header in plain view for the inspector. You might check with a manufacturer
like JBA, Gibson or Borla on whats street legal on your vehicle model in
your state... many times they're more knowledgeable about state laws (their
livelihood) than the inspectors themselves.

Later..... Pete
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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 14:09:12 -0700
From: Bob Fiddes
Subject: FTE Small - 86 Ranger

Hello,

Got a strange problem with my 86 Ranger 2.9. The vehicle has over 200K on it and I am the original owner. Still runs
like a top.

The problem is when the engine is warmed up it does not like to restart. There is no problem with cranking. It cranks
over very strong, the tach gets up to about 400-500 rpm but it just won't fire. Sometimes it will kick over if you
floor it, but that isn't always the case. Letting it sit for 10-15 minutes and it will fire right up again within 2-3
seconds of hitting the key.

The fuel pressure is good. I have dual tanks and 3 fuel pumps and you can hear them run for about 2 seconds after you
turn the key to the on position.

I have changed the EEC-IV Emissions relay. There are two other relays near the air cleaner box. Could one of those be
acting up?

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Other than that annoyance and sometimes making you late for where you
want to go, it has been an exceptional vehicle. The only routine failures I have had since purchasing the truck have
been it's propensity to devour u joints. Have changed them so many times that they can be pushed in and out with a
strong thumb! Must be something wrong with the driveline and it has been this way since it was new. It's a king cab
and it has the smallest u joints and driveline I have ever seen. My 88 2.3 has a beefer driveline on it.

Thanks,

Bob
bcenterprises cybertrails.com

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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 18:20:34 -0500
From: Tim Turner
Subject: FTE Small - Re:

Eric Davis wrote:
>
> Anyone know where I can get Edlebrock shocks for my 98 Ranger, I can not
> find them anywhere.
>

Try 'Performance Products' at

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.performanceproducts.com

The catalog doesnt list the years, but does say "Available for Bronco,
Expedition, Explorer, F-Series truck and Ranger"

TT
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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 16:07:02 -0800
From: "Alan Wilson"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Re:

Why would you want to get Edelbrock Shocks for a Ranger so new as that '98??

Just wondering cause I have a 98 Ranger. :)

Tim Turner wrote:

> Eric Davis wrote:
> >
> > Anyone know where I can get Edlebrock shocks for my 98 Ranger, I can not
> > find them anywhere.
> >
>
> Try 'Performance Products' at
>
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.performanceproducts.com
>
> The catalog doesnt list the years, but does say "Available for Bronco,
> Expedition, Explorer, F-Series truck and Ranger"
>
> TT
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- --
Alan Wilson - Wilshire Associates,

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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 20:13:19 -0800
From: "Keith Christensen"
Subject: FTE Small - Re: BII engine rebuild -- Misc questions

Washington State runs on emissions results, but looks like changes coming ,
so I'm being careful on mods.

|Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 16:42:43 -0800
|From: "Pete Lawless"
|Subject: FTE Small - Re: BII engine rebuild

|ENGINE MODS:
|2.9 Ltr Engine (about 18k on rebuild w/new heads)

I have a few more miles (33K)on mine, but good STOCK rebuild done by a Ford
circletrack maniac so I'm working on a good base! My cat's plugging, and
the rest of the exhaust is getting ragged, so this post got my attention!
Info.. my B II is an 88, with the AO4LD auto, air, ps, pb, 3.73's in the
diffs, and running 215/80 tires. I been wanting a few more horses for
passing and towing the Ranger bed/frame util trailer I found.

The cat plugs up variably and intermittently, so when it runs good, it does
GOOD! I got it up to 110 or so by tach and math last summer in Montana
used my old boyhood top-out test road from back in the 60's)

|Engle Racing RV2 Cam .... not yet (unless I get more money.. ), but
what kind of bottom end gain? Enough off idle to work well with an
automatic?

|K&N Filter... Running a similar "filter only " hi-flo made for a marine
engine, brand unknown.. found in a box of misc stuff and size was right. I
"gut feel" about 4 horses gained here.

|JET Performance Module..... Do they offer this for the automatic? I assume
you have to use 92 octane, but does it keep the std thermostat instead of
the 160 deg deal?

|JBA Cat4Ward Headers ... This is what I'm going for first! I looked at
the Pacesetters, but they don't look like hi-durability items. JBA's are
built like the new OEM GM headers that LAST! I hated the old "2 year
lifespan"Hedman Hedders of the 60's!

|Dual In-Line Hi-Flow Catalytic Converters... are these in SERIES?? or is
this a design type? A local shop claims using a good V8 cat of proper
dimensions works good.

|Single 2.25" CAT Back w/ Flowmaster Muffler.... I'll probably do something
similar

Thanks in advance, Pete.


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Keith Christensen old address....


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