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In this issue:

RE: FTE Small - Intro and Explorer V8 Q:
RE: FTE Small - Intro and Explorer V8 Q:
RE: FTE Small - Intro and Explorer V8 Q:
Re: FTE Small - Intro and Explorer V8 Q:
FTE Small - Mercon 5 transmission fluid
FTE Small - A4LD Transmission
RE: FTE Small - Mercon 5 transmission fluid
RE: FTE Small - Mercon 5 transmission fluid
Re: FTE Small - A4LD Transmission
RE: FTE Small - Intro and Explorer V8 Q:
Re: FTE Small - Mercon 5 transmission fluid
RE: FTE Small - Intro and Explorer V8 Q:
RE: FTE Small - Intro and Explorer V8 Q:
FTE Small - new tires
Re: FTE Small - new tires
RE: FTE Small - new tires
Re: FTE Small - new tires

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Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 07:22:32 -0700
From: Ray Scheidnes
Subject: RE: FTE Small - Intro and Explorer V8 Q:

Hi,
I'm not sure if I sent my questions to this discussion group correctly, so I
thought I'd reply on this message in case it didn't go through. Thanks in
advance, and any input would be appreciated!
I have a '94 Ranger extended cab 4x4. I've been talking with a local
muffler shop that wants to redirect my exhaust out the side, in front of the
rear wheel. They assure me that this is a good thing to do and that they
will do a nice job. I've had some other work done by them, so I know
they're right about their work quality. I also have headers on my 4.0
motor. This would certainly look cool, but I've got a few concerns and hope
that maybe some of you have made this change to your trucks and can answer
my questions:
Is it bad for the muffler to move it forward in order to accomodate the
tailpipe's exit before the rear wheel? (too much heat from the converter,
flying rocks, etc?)
Is it bad for the floor of the cab to have the muffler beneath it? (too hot
perhaps?)
Any advantages/disadvantages of this custom job?

Looking forward to your input - Thanks again!


> ----------
> From: Chris Slaw[SMTP:cslaw ptd.net]
> Reply To: small-list ford-trucks.com
> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 1999 12:14 PM
> To: small-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: Re: FTE Small - Intro and Explorer V8 Q:
>
> Ding060297 aol.com wrote:
> >
> > I did 3" pipes with a 3" dynomax muffler
> > it sounds pretty mean its not to loud but sounds mean....
>
> That 3" system must have fit very tight! I got a price from Summit on the
> Dynomax kit for $199, but it has a dinky 2.25" tailpipe. What's the point?
>
> Q: Is there any droning when you are cruising on the highway? I like to
> hear
> my exhaust most of the time, but I can't stand that buzz/drone sound when
>
> 2000 rpm cruise - gets on my nerves!
>
> > I've also added a
> > k&n air filter but i have the cylinder style box and i've just removed
> the
> > box and stuck the filter in the air tube...Its now open and definitly
> added a
> > few pony's......
>
> I have a K&N in each of my other vehicles. The one in my '90 Mustang GT
> has
> been installed since new, and has been cleaned only 3 times in 60,000
> miles.
> Apparently I'll have to cross-reference the K&N panel filter to a
> different
> model via dimensions, because the catalog doesn't list a panel filter for
> the
> V8, only the conical version is on the shelf. If anyone else has a
> cross-reference part number for the V8-sized panel filter, I'd be
> interested
> in getting it.
>
> > Other than that i've added a hyperchip and dropped the
> > thermostat to 160 degees and it runs good sounds mean and looks nice.
>
> I would be careful with that 160 stat -- the ecm won't go into closed-loop
> operation until the ECT (coolant sensor) hits 181 degrees. If the engine
> never
> reaches that temperature, it will stay in warmup mode, which not only
> burns
> excess fuel, but also washes down the cylinder walls, causing premature
> piston
> ring wear. My Explorer hasn't pinged yet on 89 octane fuel, so it must be
> the
> added timing of the hypertech chip causing the detonation. It would
> really
> behoove you to install at least a 180 stat to get your engine hot enough
> to
> get into closed-loop operating mode. Even better, purchase a 180 or 192
> high-flow stat like the Robert Shaw brand. That and I presume you are
> running
> 93 octane only, as specified by Hypertech? If you live in the cursed land
> of
> oxygenated gas, you may be screwed no matter what grade you run.
> Later.
> --
> Chris Slaw
> --
> '97 Explorer V8 17k
> '93 626ES auto 49k
> '90 MustangGT 5spd 60k
> --
> "The ones whom you should try to get even with
> are the ones who have helped you."
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Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 09:39:30 -0500
From: "Tony Rio (Chicago)"
Subject: RE: FTE Small - Intro and Explorer V8 Q:

Just curious, but why would you want to route it out the side in front of
the wheel? Appearance? Does it increase performance (shorter exhast run)?
I would understatnd if you were putting a boat in and out of water, as the
rear exit would "snorkle". Just wondering....

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-small-list ford-trucks.com
> [mailto:owner-small-list ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of Ray Scheidnes
> Sent: Friday, June 11, 1999 9:23 AM
> To: 'small-list ford-trucks.com'
> Subject: RE: FTE Small - Intro and Explorer V8 Q:
>
>
> Hi,
> I'm not sure if I sent my questions to this discussion group
> correctly, so I
> thought I'd reply on this message in case it didn't go through. Thanks in
> advance, and any input would be appreciated!
> I have a '94 Ranger extended cab 4x4. I've been talking with a local
> muffler shop that wants to redirect my exhaust out the side, in
> front of the
> rear wheel. They assure me that this is a good thing to do and that they
> will do a nice job. I've had some other work done by them, so I know
> they're right about their work quality. I also have headers on my 4.0
> motor. This would certainly look cool, but I've got a few
> concerns and hope
> that maybe some of you have made this change to your trucks and can answer
> my questions:
> Is it bad for the muffler to move it forward in order to accomodate the
> tailpipe's exit before the rear wheel? (too much heat from the converter,
> flying rocks, etc?)
> Is it bad for the floor of the cab to have the muffler beneath
> it? (too hot
> perhaps?)
> Any advantages/disadvantages of this custom job?
>
> Looking forward to your input - Thanks again!
>
>
> > ----------
> > From: Chris Slaw[SMTP:cslaw ptd.net]
> > Reply To: small-list ford-trucks.com
> > Sent: Thursday, June 10, 1999 12:14 PM
> > To: small-list ford-trucks.com
> > Subject: Re: FTE Small - Intro and Explorer V8 Q:
> >
> > Ding060297 aol.com wrote:
> > >
> > > I did 3" pipes with a 3" dynomax muffler
> > > it sounds pretty mean its not to loud but sounds mean....
> >
> > That 3" system must have fit very tight! I got a price from
> Summit on the
> > Dynomax kit for $199, but it has a dinky 2.25" tailpipe. What's
> the point?
> >
> > Q: Is there any droning when you are cruising on the highway? I like to
> > hear
> > my exhaust most of the time, but I can't stand that buzz/drone
> sound when
> >
> > 2000 rpm cruise - gets on my nerves!
> >
> > > I've also added a
> > > k&n air filter but i have the cylinder style box and i've just removed
> > the
> > > box and stuck the filter in the air tube...Its now open and definitly
> > added a
> > > few pony's......
> >
> > I have a K&N in each of my other vehicles. The one in my '90 Mustang GT
> > has
> > been installed since new, and has been cleaned only 3 times in 60,000
> > miles.
> > Apparently I'll have to cross-reference the K&N panel filter to a
> > different
> > model via dimensions, because the catalog doesn't list a panel
> filter for
> > the
> > V8, only the conical version is on the shelf. If anyone else has a
> > cross-reference part number for the V8-sized panel filter, I'd be
> > interested
> > in getting it.
> >
> > > Other than that i've added a hyperchip and dropped the
> > > thermostat to 160 degees and it runs good sounds mean and looks nice.
> >
> > I would be careful with that 160 stat -- the ecm won't go into
> closed-loop
> > operation until the ECT (coolant sensor) hits 181 degrees. If the engine
> > never
> > reaches that temperature, it will stay in warmup mode, which not only
> > burns
> > excess fuel, but also washes down the cylinder walls, causing premature
> > piston
> > ring wear. My Explorer hasn't pinged yet on 89 octane fuel, so
> it must be
> > the
> > added timing of the hypertech chip causing the detonation. It would
> > really
> > behoove you to install at least a 180 stat to get your engine hot enough
> > to
> > get into closed-loop operating mode. Even better, purchase a 180 or 192
> > high-flow stat like the Robert Shaw brand. That and I presume you are
> > running
> > 93 octane only, as specified by Hypertech? If you live in the
> cursed land
> > of
> > oxygenated gas, you may be screwed no matter what grade you run.
> > Later.
> > --
> > Chris Slaw
> > --
> > '97 Explorer V8 17k
> > '93 626ES auto 49k
> > '90 MustangGT 5spd 60k
> > --
> > "The ones whom you should try to get even with
> > are the ones who have helped you."
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Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 08:13:01 -0700
From: Ray Scheidnes
Subject: RE: FTE Small - Intro and Explorer V8 Q:

Both, actually. I currently have it routed straight out the back, beneath
the rear bumper. Got tired of that setup and have the "itch" to do
something different.
I have been told that for performance reasons, having the exhaust go out in
front of the rear wheel will be benefitial as the spent gas will exit
quicker.
I also like the appearance, as my Ranger is mildly set up in the prerunner
style.
I would like to know what the good or bad factors of doing this are...

> ----------
> From: Tony Rio (Chicago)[SMTP:trio tigroupchicago.com]
> Reply To: small-list ford-trucks.com
> Sent: Friday, June 11, 1999 7:39 AM
> To: small-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: RE: FTE Small - Intro and Explorer V8 Q:
>
> Just curious, but why would you want to route it out the side in front of
> the wheel? Appearance? Does it increase performance (shorter exhast
> run)?
> I would understatnd if you were putting a boat in and out of water, as the
> rear exit would "snorkle". Just wondering....
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-small-list ford-trucks.com
> > [mailto:owner-small-list ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of Ray Scheidnes
> > Sent: Friday, June 11, 1999 9:23 AM
> > To: 'small-list ford-trucks.com'
> > Subject: RE: FTE Small - Intro and Explorer V8 Q:
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> > I'm not sure if I sent my questions to this discussion group
> > correctly, so I
> > thought I'd reply on this message in case it didn't go through. Thanks
> in
> > advance, and any input would be appreciated!
> > I have a '94 Ranger extended cab 4x4. I've been talking with a local
> > muffler shop that wants to redirect my exhaust out the side, in
> > front of the
> > rear wheel. They assure me that this is a good thing to do and that
> they
> > will do a nice job. I've had some other work done by them, so I know
> > they're right about their work quality. I also have headers on my 4.0
> > motor. This would certainly look cool, but I've got a few
> > concerns and hope
> > that maybe some of you have made this change to your trucks and can
> answer
> > my questions:
> > Is it bad for the muffler to move it forward in order to accomodate the
> > tailpipe's exit before the rear wheel? (too much heat from the
> converter,
> > flying rocks, etc?)
> > Is it bad for the floor of the cab to have the muffler beneath
> > it? (too hot
> > perhaps?)
> > Any advantages/disadvantages of this custom job?
> >
> > Looking forward to your input - Thanks again!
> >
> >
> > > ----------
> > > From: Chris Slaw[SMTP:cslaw ptd.net]
> > > Reply To: small-list ford-trucks.com
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 10, 1999 12:14 PM
> > > To: small-list ford-trucks.com
> > > Subject: Re: FTE Small - Intro and Explorer V8 Q:
> > >
> > > Ding060297 aol.com wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I did 3" pipes with a 3" dynomax muffler
> > > > it sounds pretty mean its not to loud but sounds mean....
> > >
> > > That 3" system must have fit very tight! I got a price from
> > Summit on the
> > > Dynomax kit for $199, but it has a dinky 2.25" tailpipe. What's
> > the point?
> > >
> > > Q: Is there any droning when you are cruising on the highway? I like
> to
> > > hear
> > > my exhaust most of the time, but I can't stand that buzz/drone
> > sound when
> > >
> > > 2000 rpm cruise - gets on my nerves!
> > >
> > > > I've also added a
> > > > k&n air filter but i have the cylinder style box and i've just
> removed
> > > the
> > > > box and stuck the filter in the air tube...Its now open and
> definitly
> > > added a
> > > > few pony's......
> > >
> > > I have a K&N in each of my other vehicles. The one in my '90 Mustang
> GT
> > > has
> > > been installed since new, and has been cleaned only 3 times in 60,000
> > > miles.
> > > Apparently I'll have to cross-reference the K&N panel filter to a
> > > different
> > > model via dimensions, because the catalog doesn't list a panel
> > filter for
> > > the
> > > V8, only the conical version is on the shelf. If anyone else has a
> > > cross-reference part number for the V8-sized panel filter, I'd be
> > > interested
> > > in getting it.
> > >
> > > > Other than that i've added a hyperchip and dropped the
> > > > thermostat to 160 degees and it runs good sounds mean and looks
> nice.
> > >
> > > I would be careful with that 160 stat -- the ecm won't go into
> > closed-loop
> > > operation until the ECT (coolant sensor) hits 181 degrees. If the
> engine
> > > never
> > > reaches that temperature, it will stay in warmup mode, which not only
> > > burns
> > > excess fuel, but also washes down the cylinder walls, causing
> premature
> > > piston
> > > ring wear. My Explorer hasn't pinged yet on 89 octane fuel, so
> > it must be
> > > the
> > > added timing of the hypertech chip causing the detonation. It would
> > > really
> > > behoove you to install at least a 180 stat to get your engine hot
> enough
> > > to
> > > get into closed-loop operating mode. Even better, purchase a 180 or
> 192
> > > high-flow stat like the Robert Shaw brand. That and I presume you are
> > > running
> > > 93 octane only, as specified by Hypertech? If you live in the
> > cursed land
> > > of
> > > oxygenated gas, you may be screwed no matter what grade you run.
> > > Later.
> > > --
> > > Chris Slaw
> > > --
> > > '97 Explorer V8 17k
> > > '93 626ES auto 49k
> > > '90 MustangGT 5spd 60k
> > > --
> > > "The ones whom you should try to get even with
> > > are the ones who have helped you."
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Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 11:49:19 -0400
From: Chris Slaw
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Intro and Explorer V8 Q:

Ray Scheidnes wrote:

> I have a '94 Ranger extended cab 4x4. I've been talking with a local
> muffler shop that wants to redirect my exhaust out the side, in front of the
> rear wheel. They assure me that this is a good thing to do

Ford put the exhaust there on the '97 F150; reason cited was cost, but
benefits cited were 1) no damage to exhaust system while backing up to load
cargo in docking situations, and 2) keeping the pipe out of the water for
boaters. Go figure: in 1998 they moved the pipe back behind the wheel, at
least on the 4.2L 4x4 we have at work.

> Is it bad for the muffler to move it forward in order to accomodate the
> tailpipe's exit before the rear wheel? (too much heat from the converter,
> flying rocks, etc?)

If you are worried about heat, you could specify muffler(s) that has a heat
shield built-in, like the Flowmaster, & others. There are bolt-on heat shields
also.


- --
Chris Slaw
- --
'97 Explorer V8 17k
'93 626ES auto 49k
'90 MustangGT 5spd 60k
- --
"The ones whom you should try to get even with
are the ones who have helped you."
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Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 09:08:57 -0700
From: rgstein pacbell.net
Subject: FTE Small - Mercon 5 transmission fluid

A few months ago, I asked Mobil if their synthetic "Mobil 1 Transmission
Fluid" meets the specs for Mercon V. They said that it does not.

I have these questions: is Mercon V backward compatible with Mercon
III/Dexron II? If it is, is there any advantage is changing to it with
an older transmission intended for Mercon III? What's so special about
Mercon V? Are the newer transmissions designed specifically for Mercon
V, or are the transmissions the same, with the newer fluid an attempt to
"patch" the well-known Ford transmission problems?

Richard

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Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 10:24:11 -0600
From: "David Herron"
Subject: FTE Small - A4LD Transmission

Alright all -- ('86 Ford 4cyl 2.3L - 2WD - A4LD Transmission - valve body
1 solenoid)

For weeks I've has a mechanic (friend of mine) working on my
transmission. I'm having him try to use the transmission that's there, and
just replace parts to get it to work. Aready, he's pulled the tranny FIVE
TIMES! We've replaced the tourque converter, the valve body (with a used
one), the pump, bands, and several seals, as well as gone through it to look
for problems.
Here's the problem: Running down the highway at 75 MPH a month ago, the
tranny just slipped out of gear, and only Park, Reverse, and neutral worked.
Towed it back, and tore into it. We have done almost everything we can
think of, short of checking the transmission fluid pressure, because he
dosen't have a high enough oil pressure gauge. The tranny still will engage
in reverse, but no forward gears. The A4LD valve body has one valve for
1-2, one for 3-4, and then locks up the tourque converter for 5th. It is,
of course, an overdrive model. We thought that perhaps the vale for 1-2 was
sticking, so after a frustrating evining, we pushed it down the highway, to
65 MPH, thinking perhaps we could get it to engage in 4th or 5th, but no
dice.
Does anybody have any other suggestions about where to look? We're
going nutty, and this is beggining to add up $$. BTW, I also had him go
through the engine: he fixed my idling problem (EGR valve, and a crack in
the head gasket), and reset that annoying emissions light (button behind
glove box in dash). Not to mention about 6 leaks, which no longer spit vital
fluids :-)

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Director of Information Systems
Colorado Plains Medical Center
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Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 11:26:55 -0500
From: "Tony Rio (Chicago)"
Subject: RE: FTE Small - Mercon 5 transmission fluid

Dad just bought a 99 F150 extended cab. He likes to have "extras on the
shelf and the one Saturday after he bought the truck we spent all day
looking for Mercon V. Lots of III was to be found, but not a drop of V. We
finally found a dealer that had 3 quarts of it, so we got all they had. We
literally checked over 20 differnt part stores within the Chicago area, and
5 dealers before we finally found it.

I will caution that all the dealers, my Dad's buddy mechanic, and even the
auto parts guys said don't use the III when it calls for the V. I had used
III in my '94 F150 (and still use it in my 95 Explorer). and it worked
fine, but I'm a firm believer in if the manufacturer calls for it, that's
what you use (or an exact equivalant). IMHO $1500 to $2500 is way too much
for a tranny rebuild just because I thought I know better than those who
designed it.

I would have to agree that 3/4 of a quart shouldn't hurt, but I wouldn't
change out V for III entirely.

As a side note, we also called 2 or 3 of the local Lube-pro, Jiffy-Lube,
et... 15 minute oil change places, and they didn't have it either. They
said they just use the III across the board for the Ford trucks... Guess
where Dad won't be getting fluid changed!


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Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 11:26:55 -0500
From: "Tony Rio (Chicago)"
Subject: RE: FTE Small - Mercon 5 transmission fluid

Not sure if this made it the first time around

Dad just bought a 99 F150 extended cab. He likes to have "extras on the
shelf and the one Saturday after he bought the truck we spent all day
looking for Mercon V. Lots of III was to be found, but not a drop of V. We
finally found a dealer that had 3 quarts of it, so we got all they had. We
literally checked over 20 differnt part stores within the Chicago area, and
5 dealers before we finally found it.

I will caution that all the dealers, my Dad's buddy mechanic, and even the
auto parts guys said don't use the III when it calls for the V. I had used
III in my '94 F150 (and still use it in my 95 Explorer). and it worked
fine, but I'm a firm believer in if the manufacturer calls for it, that's
what you use (or an exact equivalant). IMHO $1500 to $2500 is way too much
for a tranny rebuild just because I thought I know better than those who
designed it.

I would have to agree that 3/4 of a quart shouldn't hurt, but I wouldn't
change out V for III entirely.

As a side note, we also called 2 or 3 of the local Lube-pro, Jiffy-Lube,
et... 15 minute oil change places, and they didn't have it either. They
said they just use the III across the board for the Ford trucks... Guess
where Dad won't be getting fluid changed!


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Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 12:42:53 -0400
From: David Cooley
Subject: Re: FTE Small - A4LD Transmission

At 10:24 AM 6/11/99 -0600, you wrote:
>Alright all -- ('86 Ford 4cyl 2.3L - 2WD - A4LD Transmission - valve body
>1 solenoid)

David,
Sounds like the Direct clutch pak is gone
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Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 12:45:40 -0400
From: David Cooley
Subject: RE: FTE Small - Intro and Explorer V8 Q:

At 08:13 AM 6/11/99 -0700, you wrote:
>Both, actually. I currently have it routed straight out the back, beneath
>the rear bumper. Got tired of that setup and have the "itch" to do
>something different.
>I have been told that for performance reasons, having the exhaust go out in
>front of the rear wheel will be benefitial as the spent gas will exit
>quicker.
>I also like the appearance, as my Ranger is mildly set up in the prerunner
>style.
>I would like to know what the good or bad factors of doing this are...

Well,
Running it out the side is good in theory, but it adds a 90 degree bend
which is more restrictive than the extra 3 feet of pipe to get it straight
out the back.
There's no such thing as getting the hot exhaust out faster... the key to
performance is making the exhaust system as unrestrictive as possible... to
that end, as few bends as possible, going larger on the pipe, and going to
a free flowing muffler like the Ultra-Flow will make a world of difference.
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Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 12:49:07 -0400
From: David Cooley
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Mercon 5 transmission fluid

At 09:08 AM 6/11/99 -0700, you wrote:
>A few months ago, I asked Mobil if their synthetic "Mobil 1 Transmission
>Fluid" meets the specs for Mercon V. They said that it does not.
>
>I have these questions: is Mercon V backward compatible with Mercon
>III/Dexron II? If it is, is there any advantage is changing to it with
>an older transmission intended for Mercon III? What's so special about
>Mercon V? Are the newer transmissions designed specifically for Mercon
>V, or are the transmissions the same, with the newer fluid an attempt to
>"patch" the well-known Ford transmission problems?


Mercon V is backwards compatible (according to a ford "tech rep" I spoke
with yesterday (At the factory).
MerconV is a synthetic fluid, and in any ford trans, will resist breaking
down and "varnishing" much better than Dinosaur based trans fluids.

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Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 10:39:12 -0700
From: Ray Scheidnes
Subject: RE: FTE Small - Intro and Explorer V8 Q:

Another question:
With the tailpipe going out the back, there are three bends in the pipe as
it makes its way over the rear axle. If you have the factory setup, you
also have a fourth bend - the 90 degree one - out the side behind the rear
wheel.
With exhaust exiting in front of the rear wheel with one 90 degree bend,
aren't you better off? Or, maybe the pipe could be bent twice with two
angles, each under 90 degrees?

I was also wondering if any harm will be done to the muffler itself by
moving up toward the catalytic converter?

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>
> At 08:13 AM 6/11/99 -0700, you wrote:
> >Both, actually. I currently have it routed straight out the back,
> beneath
> >the rear bumper. Got tired of that setup and have the "itch" to do
> >something different.
> >I have been told that for performance reasons, having the exhaust go out
> in
> >front of the rear wheel will be benefitial as the spent gas will exit
> >quicker.
> >I also like the appearance, as my Ranger is mildly set up in the
> prerunner
> >style.
> >I would like to know what the good or bad factors of doing this are...
>
> Well,
> Running it out the side is good in theory, but it adds a 90 degree bend
> which is more restrictive than the extra 3 feet of pipe to get it straight
>
> out the back.
> There's no such thing as getting the hot exhaust out faster... the key to
> performance is making the exhaust system as unrestrictive as possible...
> to
> that end, as few bends as possible, going larger on the pipe, and going to
>
> a free flowing muffler like the Ultra-Flow will make a world of
> difference.
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Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 13:51:41 -0400
From: David Cooley
Subject: RE: FTE Small - Intro and Explorer V8 Q:

At 10:39 AM 6/11/99 -0700, you wrote:
>Another question:
>With the tailpipe going out the back, there are three bends in the pipe as
>it makes its way over the rear axle. If you have the factory setup, you
>also have a fourth bend - the 90 degree one - out the side behind the rear
>wheel.
>With exhaust exiting in front of the rear wheel with one 90 degree bend,
>aren't you better off? Or, maybe the pipe could be bent twice with two
>angles, each under 90 degrees?

The fewer total bends, the better... Also, going to a larger pipe alloows
the bends to be a little better flowing as well, as the pipe doesn't neck
down below stock size. Maybe from the back of the muffler, come straight
a few inches to a foot, then bend at a smooth 45 out to the side of the
truck...



>I was also wondering if any harm will be done to the muffler itself by
>moving up toward the catalytic converter?

If you use a cheap muffler, the heat can burn it out... I'd recomend the
Walker Ultra-Flow... it's stainless construction throughout... Had them on
my last 3 vehicles and after 3 years, they were still as shiny as new, and
the guts hadn't burnt or rotted out.
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Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 15:29:08 -0600
From: "Steinbrook, Steve/PHL"
Subject: FTE Small - new tires

I need to replace the tires on my 1996 Explorer Sport. I think I have
narrowed the choices down to the Goodyear Wrangler Radial AT/S and the BF
Goodrich Radial All Terrain T/A. Both have reviews stating that they
provide good on and off road capabilities. Has anyone had experience with
either of these?

Stephen Steinbrook
215-563-4244 x322
ssteinbr ch2m.com

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Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 15:48:41 -0600
From: "Larry A White"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - new tires

I had two sets of the Wrangler Radials on my Bronco ll and liked them a lot.
Consumers Union rated them lower than other SUV tire choices so I selected a
BIG-O tire this time around. These are good tires too with perhaps MORE traction
and less directional stability than the Wranglers. 'Guess both were
satisfactory choices.

Larry




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I need to replace the tires on my 1996 Explorer Sport. I think I have
narrowed the choices down to the Goodyear Wrangler Radial AT/S and the BF
Goodrich Radial All Terrain T/A. Both have reviews stating that they
provide good on and off road capabilities. Has anyone had experience with
either of these?

Stephen Steinbrook
215-563-4244 x322
ssteinbr ch2m.com

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Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 14:46:26 -0700
From: Ray Scheidnes
Subject: RE: FTE Small - new tires

I had the BFGs on my Ranger once, they were 32x11.5x15.
Watch out for the "BFG blister." This is when actual blisters actually
start popping out of the tire between the knobbies. It starts out small but
gets worse over time. I had to replace all four of those tires, and now I
run on Dunlops. They certainly look nice and aren't too noisy on the
freeway, though. I may have just had a bad set or something. BFG has a
good reputation as far as I know...

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