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Re: FTE Small - Borla exhaust system reverberating in cabin?
RE: FTE Small - Borla exhaust system reverberating in cabin?
Re: FTE Small - Borla exhaust system reverberating in cabin?
FTE Small - 4.6 swap
Re: FTE Small - 4.6 swap
Re: FTE Small - explorer cat back exhaust system

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Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 08:19:51 -0600
From: Dave Armbruster
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Borla exhaust system reverberating in cabin?

I have had a Borla cat-back on my Ranger for about 2 years now. On the
highway, if it kicks out of overdrive or I turn O/D off, it's loud enough
that it drowns out the radio, even with the windows up. Of course, the
Ranger interior seems to be loud anyway. I never really tried to quiet it
down, but it seems that it's not just the tailpipe sound itself, but the
mechanical vibration through the truck as well.

The sure-fire solution is not to get high flow aftermarket exhaust. But,
the Borla is tuned well and doesn't sound like a set of cheap glasspacks.
You could try insulating the truck, I know that does a lot to drown out road
noise for people who install expensive stereos, might work for this. A few
years ago, a friend of mine in school insulated his fullsize Blazer with
Dynamat, it does work like crazy to make the inside of the vehicle dead
quiet. You'll be happy to hear, Borlas seem to get louder over time, as the
damping mesh in the muffler gets packed down.

Dave,
Denver, CO
'97 Ranger XLT 4wd, 4.0L, K&N, Borla

> -----Original Message-----
>
> Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 18:04:38 -0500
> From: Mike Fisher
> Subject: Re: FTE Small - Borla exhaust system reverberating in cabin?
>
> Andrew,
>
> I got a Borla exhaust put on my '97 Mountaineer and noticed the same
> thing. I have had it for a couple of months now, and I don't even notice
> it anymore. It does take some getting used to, but it sounds like a V8
> should sound now, not like some pollution-control strangled economy car!
>
> Mike Fisher
> 1997 Mountaineer AWD/Borla/K&N/PIAAs/BFG 31x10.50 ATs
>
> Andrew Chung wrote:
> >
> > I just had a Borla cat back system installed on my 98 Explorer about a
> week
> > ago and the exhaust noise seems to be reverberating in the cabin area.
> > Outside, the exhaust looks and sounds great, but when I start
> accelerating,
> > the noise levels starts moving up quite quickly and at highway speeds,
> the
> > noise in the cabin is really loud. I wanted to know if this was normal
> for
> > a Borla system, and what I can do to quite things down a little bit. I
> did
> > read on a post previously about Dynamat in the trunk area? This is the
> first
> > cat-back performance system I've had in a vehicle so this might be
> normal
> > and I just don't know it. Anyone have any experience? Any comments will
> be
> > appreciated.
> >
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Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 08:05:44 -0700
From: Ray Scheidnes
Subject: RE: FTE Small - Borla exhaust system reverberating in cabin?

On the subject of cabin noise, I have a 94 Ranger 4x4 extended cab that
sometimes makes an annoying metallic pop around the driver's door latch
area. It seems to occur irregularly, and usually while stopping or over
road bumps. I've lubed the latch mechanism a bit, and also treated the
weatherstripping. Anybody else experience this or have any suggestions??

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> From: Dave Armbruster[SMTP:darmbruster pai-colo.com]
> Reply To: small-list ford-trucks.com
> Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 1999 7:19 AM
> To: small-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: Re: FTE Small - Borla exhaust system reverberating in cabin?
>
> I have had a Borla cat-back on my Ranger for about 2 years now. On the
> highway, if it kicks out of overdrive or I turn O/D off, it's loud enough
> that it drowns out the radio, even with the windows up. Of course, the
> Ranger interior seems to be loud anyway. I never really tried to quiet it
> down, but it seems that it's not just the tailpipe sound itself, but the
> mechanical vibration through the truck as well.
>
> The sure-fire solution is not to get high flow aftermarket exhaust. But,
> the Borla is tuned well and doesn't sound like a set of cheap glasspacks.
> You could try insulating the truck, I know that does a lot to drown out
> road
> noise for people who install expensive stereos, might work for this. A
> few
> years ago, a friend of mine in school insulated his fullsize Blazer with
> Dynamat, it does work like crazy to make the inside of the vehicle dead
> quiet. You'll be happy to hear, Borlas seem to get louder over time, as
> the
> damping mesh in the muffler gets packed down.
>
> Dave,
> Denver, CO
> '97 Ranger XLT 4wd, 4.0L, K&N, Borla
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 18:04:38 -0500
> > From: Mike Fisher
> > Subject: Re: FTE Small - Borla exhaust system reverberating in cabin?
> >
> > Andrew,
> >
> > I got a Borla exhaust put on my '97 Mountaineer and noticed the same
> > thing. I have had it for a couple of months now, and I don't even notice
> > it anymore. It does take some getting used to, but it sounds like a V8
> > should sound now, not like some pollution-control strangled economy car!
> >
> > Mike Fisher
> > 1997 Mountaineer AWD/Borla/K&N/PIAAs/BFG 31x10.50 ATs
> >
> > Andrew Chung wrote:
> > >
> > > I just had a Borla cat back system installed on my 98 Explorer about a
> > week
> > > ago and the exhaust noise seems to be reverberating in the cabin area.
> > > Outside, the exhaust looks and sounds great, but when I start
> > accelerating,
> > > the noise levels starts moving up quite quickly and at highway speeds,
> > the
> > > noise in the cabin is really loud. I wanted to know if this was
> normal
> > for
> > > a Borla system, and what I can do to quite things down a little bit.
> I
> > did
> > > read on a post previously about Dynamat in the trunk area? This is the
> > first
> > > cat-back performance system I've had in a vehicle so this might be
> > normal
> > > and I just don't know it. Anyone have any experience? Any comments
> will
> > be
> > > appreciated.
> > >
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Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 21:07:23 -0400
From: Geoffrey Hoffman
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Borla exhaust system reverberating in cabin?

and also on this discussion on noise, I have a question in the reverse. Is
there a good solution for a cat-back upgrade that does not drive the noise
up a lot? I am wanting upgrades, but I still like it quiet and smooth at
speed, and don't want to be thundering around the neighborhood, yet...

anyway, just curious...

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Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 19:52:13 -0600
From: BJ Tiemessen
Subject: FTE Small - 4.6 swap

I have a 96 Ranger and want to swap in a V-8 but the Colorado Emissions
laws limit this a lot. There are a few requirements that I must meet:
1. Engine has to be 96 or newer
2. Has to be from a passanger car or light truck
3. Must use OE computer, harness, and tranny
4. Must be OBD-2 (same as current 2.3)
5. Must maintain all accessories on engine

I wanted a 5.0 with a manual tranny but mustangs didn't come with them
in 96. I can get a 4.6 with 23,000 miles on it with the harness and
computer for $1800. What I need to know is the overall dimentions of
the 4.6 SOHC and DOHC. Has anyone heard of this swap being done? How
different are the engine mounts from the 5.0? And just any other
clearance problems or anything that anyone can think of.

Thanks,

BJ

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Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 21:21:47 -0500 (CDT)
From: Sandman
Subject: Re: FTE Small - 4.6 swap

from what I have heard, the 4.6 is too wide for the Ranger. You could get
a 302 from an explorer, or a 96 F-series. If I remember right, those are
the only 96 or newer cars that use the 5.0. According to what you have
there, you still should be able to grab a manual tranny from anywhere, and
install it.

On Wed, 5 May 1999, BJ Tiemessen wrote:

> I have a 96 Ranger and want to swap in a V-8 but the Colorado Emissions
> laws limit this a lot. There are a few requirements that I must meet:
> 1. Engine has to be 96 or newer
> 2. Has to be from a passanger car or light truck
> 3. Must use OE computer, harness, and tranny
> 4. Must be OBD-2 (same as current 2.3)
> 5. Must maintain all accessories on engine
>
> I wanted a 5.0 with a manual tranny but mustangs didn't come with them
> in 96. I can get a 4.6 with 23,000 miles on it with the harness and
> computer for $1800. What I need to know is the overall dimentions of
> the 4.6 SOHC and DOHC. Has anyone heard of this swap being done? How
> different are the engine mounts from the 5.0? And just any other
> clearance problems or anything that anyone can think of.
>

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Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 23:59:07 EDT
From: Ding060297 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Small - explorer cat back exhaust system

i finally go it my 3" inch cat back system...i have the 96 ford
explorer 5.0 v8 all wheel drive i installed a k&n air filter and did away
with the factory air box...Installed a hyperchip and dropped the thermostat
to 180 degrees..Now i installed a lil Y pipe right after the two cats and put
it into a 3" dynomax muffler and all 3"inch pipe out the back...Sounds
MEAN..just like a stang especially between 1800 and 2300 rpm's it loud and
rumbles nicely ..i'm very happy with the sound and the pep it should of added
about 10 horses...If anyone in new jersey is interested in a custom exhaust
give this guy a call he's out of fair lawn nj...and he's cheap i paid $265.00
installed thats not bad considering borla wanted $544.00 not including s/h or
installation (rip-off) so for the money what the hell...email me and i'll
give out the shop number and name.........ding
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