small-list-digest Thursday, April 29 1999 Volume 03 : Number 101



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In this issue:

RE: FTE Small - Super Chip
FTE Small - exhuast
RE: FTE Small - exhuast
AW: FTE Small - exhuast
Re: FTE Small - exhuast
RE: FTE Small - exhuast
Re: FTE Small - exhuast
RE: FTE Small - exhuast
Re: FTE Small - air intake/hole drilling (cont'd)

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 06:18:31 -0700
From: Ray Scheidnes
Subject: RE: FTE Small - Super Chip

Do you simply pull off the original MAF and replace it with this larger one?
Are there any other parts that you need to make it fit correctly with the
stock airbox?
Did you notice any improvement in the motor's performance with this larger
MAF?

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> From: Robert Eberhardt[SMTP:RobertEberhardt worldnet.att.net]
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> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 7:05 PM
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> Subject: Re: FTE Small - Super Chip
>
> >Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 21:36:02 -0400
> >From: "Eric Davis"
> >Subject: Re: FTE Small - Super Chip
> >
> >What kind of Mass air Flow do you have. Also why are you selling it.
> >
> >Eric Davis
> >98 4x4 Ranger,
> >Edlebrock muffler, K&N.
> >- -----Original Message-----
> >From: Robert Eberhardt
> >To: small-list ford-trucks.com
> >Date: Friday, April 23, 1999 8:32 PM
> >Subject: Re: FTE Small - Super Chip
>
>
> It's a Pro-Flow Mass Air Meter. It was for my '94 4.0L Ranger. I purchased
> it from 4.0L Performance (Central Coast Mustang) for $249.00 + $75.00 core
> charge. I never got around to sending them my stock Mass Air Meter and I
> sold my Ranger a few years ago. When I traded it in, I put the stock one
> back in and kept the Pro-Flow. It's been hanging around ever since. I
> can't
> remember the size, but they offered two sizes at the time. It measures
> about
> 77mm with a ruler. I got the smaller of the two since the larger one
> wouldn't work with the stock airbox. The stock one was about 62-65mm. I am
> selling it now since it doesn't fit my 4.0L SOHC V6 in my '97 Explorer and
> I
> have no use for it.
>
> Robert
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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:50:45 -0400
From: "Stephen Bozzone"
Subject: FTE Small - exhuast

I was wondering the other day..

Is there a specific reason why bronco II's (as well as other brand vehicles)
have exhuast the bends to the right instead of straight out the back? Is
this just for cosmetics, or something completely different?

Thanks,

Steve Bozzone
Administrative Director - http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://rockzone.com
ICQ: 196843 || AIM: RudeSkam69
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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 08:09:30 -0700
From: Ray Scheidnes
Subject: RE: FTE Small - exhuast

My understanding regarding this exhaust bend out the right rear corner of
the vehicle is that it's for keeping the exhaust soot from building up on
the tailgate. The air currents swirl around the back of the vehicle as it
drives along, and this would cause enough soot to stick to the tailgate and
eventually turn everything around the exhaust exit black. By exiting the
side, near the rear, the exhaust gases are left behind you and not allowed
to stick to your paint. I had my exhaust custom-configured to exit the rear
of my Ranger, however, and I have not had any soot build up on my tailgate.
But, I wash the truck frequently and I burn good gas in the motor.

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> From: Stephen Bozzone[SMTP:editor rockzone.com]
> Reply To: small-list ford-trucks.com
> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 7:50 AM
> To: small-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: FTE Small - exhuast
>
> I was wondering the other day..
>
> Is there a specific reason why bronco II's (as well as other brand
> vehicles)
> have exhuast the bends to the right instead of straight out the back? Is
> this just for cosmetics, or something completely different?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve Bozzone
> Administrative Director - http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://rockzone.com
> ICQ: 196843 || AIM: RudeSkam69
> -- "I see now mankind was not meant to last." [Hatebreed] --
>
>
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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:49:27 +0200
From: "Ucen, Thomas"
Subject: AW: FTE Small - exhuast

This was a problem when I imported my Aerostar to Germany. Exhausts
may not bend out to the right since it might affect pedestrians. I =
bought a
small extension piece that bends down now. The effect is practically =
the
same but the morons at safety are happy.

Tom
Munich, Germany
1993 Aerostar Ext. 3.0L

> -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
> Von:Ray Scheidnes [SMTP:ray_scheidnes nacm.com]
> Gesendet am:Mittwoch, 28. April 1999 17:10
> An:'small-list ford-trucks.com'
> Betreff:RE: FTE Small - exhuast
>=20
> My understanding regarding this exhaust bend out the right rear =
corner of
> the vehicle is that it's for keeping the exhaust soot from building =
up on
> the tailgate. The air currents swirl around the back of the vehicle =
as it
> drives along, and this would cause enough soot to stick to the =
tailgate
> and
> eventually turn everything around the exhaust exit black. By exiting =
the
> side, near the rear, the exhaust gases are left behind you and not =
allowed
> to stick to your paint. I had my exhaust custom-configured to exit =
the
> rear
> of my Ranger, however, and I have not had any soot build up on my
> tailgate.
> But, I wash the truck frequently and I burn good gas in the motor.
>=20
> > ----------
> > From: Stephen Bozzone[SMTP:editor rockzone.com]
> > Reply To: small-list ford-trucks.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 7:50 AM
> > To: small-list ford-trucks.com
> > Subject: FTE Small - exhuast
> >=20
> > I was wondering the other day..
> >=20
> > Is there a specific reason why bronco II's (as well as other brand
> > vehicles)
> > have exhuast the bends to the right instead of straight out the =
back?
> Is
> > this just for cosmetics, or something completely different?
> >=20
> > Thanks,
> >=20
> > Steve Bozzone
> > Administrative Director - http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://rockzone.com
> > ICQ: 196843 || AIM: RudeSkam69
> > -- "I see now mankind was not meant to last." [Hatebreed] --
> >=20
> >=20
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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:38:10 -0500
From: "Greg Hopper"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - exhuast

i could be wrong, but doesnt this also have something to do with making sure
the exhaust is not sucked back into the cab if the hatch/tailgate isnt
sealed well??
dave


>My understanding regarding this exhaust bend out the right rear corner of
>the vehicle is that it's for keeping the exhaust soot from building up on
>the tailgate. The air currents swirl around the back of the vehicle as it
>drives along, and this would cause enough soot to stick to the tailgate and
>eventually turn everything around the exhaust exit black. By exiting the
>side, near the rear, the exhaust gases are left behind you and not allowed
>to stick to your paint. I had my exhaust custom-configured to exit the
rear
>of my Ranger, however, and I have not had any soot build up on my tailgate.
>But, I wash the truck frequently and I burn good gas in the motor.

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:28:55 -0700
From: Ray Scheidnes
Subject: RE: FTE Small - exhuast

If the seal on the door and door jamb is good, then, yeah, I don't see a
problem with fumes entering the cab. Take a look at a car that burns oil,
with an exhaust tip pointed out the back of the vehicle - you'll usually see
an ugly buildup of black soot all over the bumper, tailgate, etc. (unless
the car is washed often). This is at least one reason why the manufacturer
points the exhaust out the side of the vehicle (at least, that's how it was
explained to me).

> ----------
> From: Greg Hopper[SMTP:ghopper airnet.net]
> Reply To: small-list ford-trucks.com
> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 9:38 AM
> To: small-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: Re: FTE Small - exhuast
>
> i could be wrong, but doesnt this also have something to do with making
> sure
> the exhaust is not sucked back into the cab if the hatch/tailgate isnt
> sealed well??
> dave
>
>
> >My understanding regarding this exhaust bend out the right rear corner of
> >the vehicle is that it's for keeping the exhaust soot from building up on
> >the tailgate. The air currents swirl around the back of the vehicle as
> it
> >drives along, and this would cause enough soot to stick to the tailgate
> and
> >eventually turn everything around the exhaust exit black. By exiting the
> >side, near the rear, the exhaust gases are left behind you and not
> allowed
> >to stick to your paint. I had my exhaust custom-configured to exit the
> rear
> >of my Ranger, however, and I have not had any soot build up on my
> tailgate.
> >But, I wash the truck frequently and I burn good gas in the motor.
>
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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:47:58 -0400
From: "Anthony Rifici"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - exhuast

>Is there a specific reason why bronco II's (as well as other brand
vehicles)
>have exhuast the bends to the right instead of straight out the back? Is
>this just for cosmetics, or something completely different?
>


I don't know for sure, but I'll guess also. Maybe it has something to
do with the fact that trucks and vans are often used in commercial
applications where they may be left running all or most of the time. They
may make them side exit so that while they are being loaded or unloaded, you
don't burn yourself on the exhaust tip or be bothered by the exiting gases.
The aerodynamic soot-buildup explanation would also affect hatchbacks
and minivans, most of which are rear exit. Cars and trucks burn clean
enough now that I don't think this is a big problem. However alot of
designs are tradition driven or "we do it that way because we have always
done it that way" and maybe this is just one of those situations.
I'm not sure, just thought I would add to the discussion.

Tony
'94 Ranger Supercab, 4.0L, 5-Speed


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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:15:36 -0700
From: Ray Scheidnes
Subject: RE: FTE Small - exhuast

I also just remembered hearing one time that it may also have something to
do with the fact that the manufacturer assumes that you will be towing
something with your truck or van. They don't want the exhaust interfering
with the trailer, and by putting it at the side, it may also help keep it
above water when you're backing your boat down a launch ramp.

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> From: Anthony Rifici[SMTP:rifici.1 osu.edu]
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> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 11:47 AM
> To: small-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: Re: FTE Small - exhuast
>
> >Is there a specific reason why bronco II's (as well as other brand
> vehicles)
> >have exhuast the bends to the right instead of straight out the back? Is
> >this just for cosmetics, or something completely different?
> >
>
>
> I don't know for sure, but I'll guess also. Maybe it has something to
> do with the fact that trucks and vans are often used in commercial
> applications where they may be left running all or most of the time. They
> may make them side exit so that while they are being loaded or unloaded,
> you
> don't burn yourself on the exhaust tip or be bothered by the exiting
> gases.
> The aerodynamic soot-buildup explanation would also affect hatchbacks
> and minivans, most of which are rear exit. Cars and trucks burn clean
> enough now that I don't think this is a big problem. However alot of
> designs are tradition driven or "we do it that way because we have always
> done it that way" and maybe this is just one of those situations.
> I'm not sure, just thought I would add to the discussion.
>
> Tony
> '94 Ranger Supercab, 4.0L, 5-Speed
>
>
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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:48:23 -0400
From: "Anthony Rifici"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - air intake/hole drilling (cont'd)

With the recent discussion on drilling holes in or 94 and older 4.0L
airboxes on mind, I went to my friendly local Ford dealer to check out what
the air intake looked like on the 99s (which I assume is the same as the
95-98s since the onset of OBDII). They had over 40 Rangers on the lot and
not one was equipped with the 4.0L. However they had a pushrod 4.0L '99
Explorer in the showroom, so I checked that out until they threw me out when
I asked for a screwdriver and a pair of pliers. The tube (rubber now) comes
off of the throttle body and goes directly to the to the passenger side
front corner of the engine compartment and into an airbox(where we have
nothing now). There don't seem to be any vacuum lines going to it, unless
they are on the bottom. I also noticed that there is no hot air tube. That
was the one component that has been holding me back from making
modifications. Perhaps I have been overrating the importance of this, since
they seem to have just eliminated it. Given the placement of the airbox
(not surrounded by reservoirs), it seems like hole drilling would really
help here. It also looks like the 95 and up throttle body to MAF sensor
tube w/ a big conical K&N could work well (I think this is an exact
description of the KKM kit, which people have recommended), if the removal
of the vacuum lines won't mess w/ the computer. I may be making a trip to
the junkyard soon.
While under hood, I also noticed that the aluminum plenum was replaced
with a 2-piece plastic plenum. I am not sure what to think about that, but
I was not thrilled with the black masking tape holding on the cover to a
relay box or the hood bump stops that had cracked paint on them, since they....


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