small-list-digest Saturday, December 19 1998 Volume 02 : Number 351



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In this issue:

Re: FTE Small - 4.0L Engine
Re: FTE Small - V-8 Rangers
Re: FTE Small - V-8 Rangers
Re: FTE Small - 4.0L Engine
Re: FTE Small - 4.0L Engine
FTE Small - tranny judgement call
FTE Small - Re: Report site
Re: FTE Small - tranny judgement call
FTE Small - Temp. Gauge

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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 08:20:28 -0700
From: Dave Armbruster
Subject: Re: FTE Small - 4.0L Engine

In '97 and earlier Rangers, I think the 5.0L is about the only one that
would fit reasonably well. I would think the mod V8 engines are way too
wide to fit between the fenders. The same *may* be true of the 4.0L
SOHC now that I think of it, but I don't know. This may not be the case
with '98 and '99 Rangers (and newer Explorers), since that could have
been part of the criteria when the engine compartment was redesigned.

So, I wonder what the MPG of a 4.6L Cobra in a Ranger XLT SC 4x4 would
be? Probably drop it from bad to M1A1 tank-like, measured in gallons
per mile.

Dave
Denver, CO


Has anyone seen, heard of, or own a ranger with a 351 or a new
modular
4.6 or 5.4 V-8? I am very interested in putting a 4.6 cobra mill
in my
truck if I can find the people with the right knowledge to get
the bugs
out and mounted up. Also anyone have site addresses or names of
people
that specialize in such criitters

Thanks,
Bryan


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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 10:52:40 -0500
From: Daner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - V-8 Rangers

I have a 5.0L EFI in my '89 Ranger Ext-a-cab, with a stock motorm, t-5 tranny,
8.8" rearend with 410's. I put F-150 leaf springs in, since I turned stock
ranger leafs
into S's, from launching at the track.

My best run for '98 was 14.03, with 0.514 reaction time, and 1.8 60 foot
time at
95.53 mph. (Letting go at 5000-5500 rpm with CASCAR slicks)

I just dropped in a B303 cam 3 days ago, I retarded the crank gear 2
degrees, and it pulls
hard from 2500-5500 rpm. I'm going to get some 289 hi-po heads worked with
1.94 int and
1.60 ext valves, new springs...etc to get ready for the WORLD FORD
CHALLENGE in
(near) Chicago, at ROUTE 66 drag track for May 13th-16th, 1999.

I'm hoping to run low 13's - high 12's.

Any questions, I'd love to help!
We need more v-8 Rangers out there!


Daner
Daner Racing
London, Ontario, Canada



At 07:06 AM 12/17/98 -0800, Bryan Snyder wrote:
>Has anyone seen, heard of, or own a ranger with a 351 or a new modular
>4.6 or 5.4 V-8? I am very interested in putting a 4.6 cobra mill in my
>truck if I can find the people with the right knowledge to get the bugs
>out and mounted up. Also anyone have site addresses or names of people
>that specialize in such criitters
>
>Thanks,
>Bryan
>
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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 10:54:08 -0500
From: Daner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - V-8 Rangers

I've heard a guy dropped a 460 into a '83 Ranger.

I woudl love to see it.


At 08:20 PM 12/17/98 -0500, Tim Turner wrote:
>Bryan Snyder wrote:
>>
>> Has anyone seen, heard of, or own a ranger with a 351 or a new modular
>> 4.6 or 5.4 V-8? I am very interested in putting a 4.6 cobra mill in my
>> truck if I can find the people with the right knowledge to get the bugs
>> out and mounted up. Also anyone have site addresses or names of people
>> that specialize in such criitters
>>
>
>
>I dont know if they're working on it or not, but some e-mail to advance
>adaptors might be informative
>http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.advanceadapters.com/Ford/Ford.html I know they've got lots
>of stuff for the 5.0/5.8 swap (The 351's TIGHT!), maybe with some luck
>you could help them 'pioneer' a conversion to the mod quad.. ;-)
>
>Tim Turner/manic Mechanic
>Wilmington NC
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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 09:58:19 -0600 (EST)
From: Robert Fox
Subject: Re: FTE Small - 4.0L Engine

Now that, I cant answer. Since Ford just puts a plug on hole where the
distributor goes on the Explorer DIS 5.0L, who is to say what they do to a
4.0L block to make it an OHC. In my mind I can see it being done, but
dont know if thats the way the do it.

Robert Fox
fox ford ranger. com
www.ford ranger. com

On Thu, 17 Dec 1998, Eric Davis wrote:

> >Can I make my 4.0l OHV into a SOHC. Or do I have to buy a new motor.
>
> Eric Davis

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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 18:04:07 -0600
From: "Jeffrey L. Jue"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - 4.0L Engine

I agree with you that the SOHC seems to be more drivable, normally. The
SOHC is supposed to be quicker than the OHV. You may not notice the
difference from stop with the 3.73 LS, but when passing on a 2-lane highway,
the extra horsepower is necessary. That's the only reason I would want a
SOHC v-6 in my old Explorer. Now, I have a '97 Mountaineer with a v-8 (Dad
got a REALLY GOOD deal. We just got it yesterday, BTW.), and my sister now
has my old '94 Explorer. I guess that I won't have to worry about
acceleration while travelling to and from school & home. =)

Jeffrey L. Jue
lj4 ra.msstate.edu
jlj1 ece.msstate.edu
guardian netdoor.com
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www2.msstate.edu/~lj4


> Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 21:48:20 EST
> From: RReed44450 AOL.COM
> Subject: Re: FTE Small - 4.0L Engine
>
> I drove both before settling on the SOHC engine, and the difference seemed
> negligible. Towing capacities with the 373 gear are 5,080 for the SOHC and
> 5,100 for the OHV. I think that the SOHC engine offers more
> drivability for
> everyday driving, but there is not much difference in the "Foot
> on the Floor"
> mode.
>
> Russell
> Clermont,FL
> '98 Explorer Sport
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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 98 16:29:12 PST
From: don neomagic.com (Donald Paauw)
Subject: FTE Small - tranny judgement call

This is Ranger-related only because it's going into one.

This group recently talked me out of rebuilding the Mitsubishi
5 speed in my Ranger myself. (So far everything I've read
makes me glad I didn't try it).

Instead, I'm putting an '89 5.0L engine (rebuilt) into my '88
extended cab 4x4. I have a choice of 3 T5 transmissions
and would like some advice:
1) rebuilt of unknown heritage on wrecker's shelf
2) T5 from donor car (Mustang LX) with 139k on tranny.
This car was rolled, which may say something about
how it was driven but it looked very clean & well
cared for. Wrecker will warranty for 6 months but it
may take me 2-3 months to complete this job.
3) T5 from '89 Mustang GT with 109k miles. Haven't
seen this car.
No price difference for any choice.

The Advanced Adapters "kit" requires opening the tranny
& replacing the output shaft & I believe also the main shaft,
so whichever tranny I get, it will be inspected internally
by the transmission shop. This also means that the wrecker's
warranty doesn't mean much because I'd have to move the "kit"
to any replacement transmission.

My gut instinct is to get #1, the rebuilt. Does anyone have
any input that would affect this decision?
Thanks.

On another note, I saw a web site a while back that would sell
a report of a car's history through all states via the VIN number,
including smog checks, title transfers, salvage, etc.
Does anyone know where this site is?

I also have questions about the reliability of the 7.5" 3.73 limited
slip differential but I'll ask them in another post.

Thanks for any advice.
Don
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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 98 16:53:04 PST
From: don neomagic.com (Donald Paauw)
Subject: FTE Small - Re: Report site

I found the site:
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.carfaxreport.com/cgibin/autotrader.com

- -- Don

>On another note, I saw a web site a while back that would sell
>a report of a car's history through all states via the VIN number,
>including smog checks, title transfers, salvage, etc.
>Does anyone know where this site is?
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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 21:25:47 -0500
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - tranny judgement call

Donald Paauw wrote:
>
> This is Ranger-related only because it's going into one.
>
> This group recently talked me out of rebuilding the Mitsubishi
> 5 speed in my Ranger myself. (So far everything I've read
> makes me glad I didn't try it).

Good choice! :-)

> The Advanced Adapters "kit" requires opening the tranny
> & replacing the output shaft & I believe also the main shaft,
> so whichever tranny I get, it will be inspected internally
> by the transmission shop. This also means that the wrecker's
> warranty doesn't mean much because I'd have to move the "kit"
> to any replacement transmission.

Possibly see if the 2 places will work together? Cant hurt to ask what
they'll do; if you have a reputable shop do the swap they hopefully
would still back the 'rest' of it..

>
> My gut instinct is to get #1, the rebuilt. Does anyone have
> any input that would affect this decision?

That would be my choice too since the price is the same amongst them; I
wouldnt be surprised if the used units had pretty worn 2nd gear synchros
and/or sloppy shifters since most of the 'Tangs with 5 speeds get driven
pretty hard (Go speed racer, go etc..).

> I also have questions about the reliability of the 7.5" 3.73 limited
> slip differential but I'll ask them in another post.

Drive it until you blow it! When I got my '85 B-II 130K there was a
chunk approx. 15mm long, 4mm wide and about 1-2mm deep missing from the
heel of one tooth on the ring gear and other than some noise under
certain conditions it's still fine 25,000 miles later. (7.5" 4.5 NON
limited slip)

Tim Turner
Wilmington NC
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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 23:23:56 EST
From: Blest25913 AOL.COM
Subject: FTE Small - Temp. Gauge


Subject: FTE Small - Fluctuating temp indicator...
I have a question I'd like to pose you all in Ford Truck land regarding an '89
Ford Bronco II's (2.9L V6) temp indicator. I notice that after my engine is
warmed up, the temp indicator will swing to the "M" or "A" in the word
"NORMAL" on the gauge to about the left of the "N". The needle will continue
to fluctuate, especially on trips in cold weather (sometimes in warm weather
as well). Does anyone know what could be going on?>>>>>>>

Mine swings a lot on my '96 Ranger 3.0L. Its done it since it was new so I....


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