small-list-digest Tuesday, December 8 1998 Volume 02 : Number 340



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In this issue:

FTE Small - Re: Air fILTER
FTE Small - 99K Looks like you are going to be right. (die 1st, 2nd)
Re: FTE Small - Well, 99,013 miles and... (use to be "die in 1st and 2nd gear")
FTE Small - RE: re: windshield leaks
FTE Small - RE: Re: A4LD trans problem on a B2
FTE Small - Blowing Noise from 95 Explorer
FTE Small - ADMIN: Chat
FTE Small - Tires and ice - performance, safety
Re: FTE Small - Tires and ice - performance, safety
Re: FTE Small - Question for Tim Turner
Re: FTE Small - Well, 99,013 miles and... (use to be "die in 1st and 2nd gear")
Re: FTE Small - Bronco 2 windshield trim
Re: FTE Small - Air Filter
Re: FTE Small - Blowing Noise from 95 Explorer
Re: FTE Small - Tires and ice - performance, safety
FTE Small - EEC Anything I need to know before I replace?
Re: FTE Small - Tires and ice - performance, safety
FTE Small - Was bored tonight so I scanned my EEC.

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Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 05:59:09 -0500
From: Jeff Baker
Subject: FTE Small - Re: Air fILTER

Joe wrote:
Ok, correct me if I'm wrong, but on a 91 Ranger, is it as complicated to
replace my air filter as it looks? .......

Joe,
I have a 92 Ranger and the air filter housing has 3 screws located
around the lip of the housing. Undo these screws and the cover will lift up
more than enough to replace the air filter. You should not have to
disconnect any of the wires. There may be more screws around the cover than
mine, but it is a simple procedure.

Jeff Baker
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Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 07:57:49 -0600 (EST)
From: Robert Fox
Subject: FTE Small - 99K Looks like you are going to be right. (die 1st, 2nd)

Well, along with now fuel pressure, I also don't have any spark. I was
stumped all day Saturday. I didn't have any power going to the fuel pump,
but I did have power to the coil packs, but no spark. I did what I was
going to do the first time and swapped the A & B coil packs. Still
nothing. I though I had checked all the fuses but as it turns out, the
PCM Power fuse was burned. This is a green 30A fuse in the power
distribution box under the hood. I replaced it, and bang!; fuel pressure
and spark return. Then I was able to get the motor started. I was so
happy! But then I test drove it and started doing the exact same thing,
falling on its face like a very bad misfire. (sigh) Well, im done with
it. I'm going to let my local Ford shop take a look at it. I think you
and Russ Parker are going to be right and it going to be computer related.

BTW, what is the PCM? Does it have anything to do with the EEC?

Robert Fox
95 2.3L
fox ford ranger. com
www.ford ranger. com

On Fri, 4 Dec 1998, Tim Turner wrote:

> Or 3) the computer itself.
>
> I wouldnt be surprised if the computer had gone awry but I hope I'm
> wrong. (Strange.. 2 people I've responded to today with probable
> computers bad and I really dont see but about 2 bad Ford computers per
> year..
> 'shops' is higher but that's a topic for a whole different
> list/day/place..>)
>
> Hope this helps you and others!
>
> Tim Turner/Manic Mechanic
> Custer Auto Repair
> Wilmington NC
> manic1 bellsouth.net

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Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 08:00:13 -0600 (EST)
From: Robert Fox
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Well, 99,013 miles and... (use to be "die in 1st and 2nd gear")

Naw, my tow ratio is higher. Times i have been towed: 1 Times I have
towed other people: 3 (1 of those being a 85 Dodge Ram)

Robert Fox
fox ford ranger. com
www.ford ranger. com

On Sat, 5 Dec 1998, Bill wrote:

> It doesn't matter anymore...
> You were towed by one of those, those, things...
> Oh, the humanity...
> Sell the truck, you'll never be able to sit up straight in it again.
>
> Bill
> kiteflyer earthlink.net

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Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 10:41:16 -0500
From: Harry Trafford
Subject: FTE Small - RE: re: windshield leaks

Lou, Thanks. I had not considered a leak in the body. I do know
that water drips from under the dash lip when it rains. The PO had
it worked on, but the leak persists. He thinks they actually did
nothing. I agree.
As soon as I locate the actual source, I'll post it.
Harry

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From: Lou Guerriero"
snippage

I don't think it's your winshield.. its your body leaking.. under
the trim.

I fixed mind by getting some winshield silicone and squeezing it in
there..
_________________

>>My newly purchased 1990 B2 has a leaking windshield,

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Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 10:41:25 -0500
From: Harry Trafford
Subject: FTE Small - RE: Re: A4LD trans problem on a B2

That's a good theory.
I removed that one-piece driveshaft, and found that the bushing was
really messed up. It had spun, allowing the driveshaft to wobble
and dump all the fluid. I just hope that these A4ld's are not
constant problems. My last Ford product was a 1956 station wagon w/
312 ci interceptor. My only problem with that one was losing hoods
all the time, because the latch was bad.
Thanks,
Harry

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From: BiggRanger

It's possable that ozidation built up on the driveshaft yoke just
after the
seal. And he may have been hauling some extra weight in the back
which loaded
down the rear suspension causing that part of the yoke to be pushed
into the
seal and bushing and tear them up.

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Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 11:11:08 -0500
From: Matt_MacKinnon BayNetworks.COM (Matt MacKinnon)
Subject: FTE Small - Blowing Noise from 95 Explorer

I've got a '95 Explorer XLT 4x4 with 81K miles on it.

Recently it started making a noise that I've never
heard before. The best description I can come up with
is that is sounds like someone is blowing across the
top of an empty beer bottle! At first I thought is
was only happening when the truck was hot (50+ miles
of continuous driving) but yesterday it happened on
my quick trip to get lunch. It has always started when
the truck was moving, but I once pulled off the road
and it put the truck in Neutral and the noise continued
for probably 45 seconds before slowly fading off. I
can't find a specific scenario that causes it, and
otherwise the truck runs fine, so I don't want to take
it to the garage yet.

Any ideas?

Thanks for you help!
- -Matt

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Matthew R. MacKinnon
mmackinnon baynetworks.com
(919)859-5200 x112
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Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 17:00:35 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE Small - ADMIN: Chat

The registration email problems with the chat have been
corrected. If you've already registered, you'll have to
register again.

If you use AOL, you cannot use the chat at this point.
AOL's browser is brain damaged and will not talk through
ports other than 80 and 8080. The chat client requires use
of ports 3334-3336. Please don't complain to me about it,
it's AOL's fault. I know of no other ISP that has this
problem. I'm working on a telnet version of the chat, but
I cannot promise that it will work with AOL. If it means
alot to you, switch providers.

Also, the chat may or may not function behind a firewall,
depending on whether ports 3334-3336 are filtered out.

Other than the email problems (which have been corrected),
this chat server has been rock solid and will not be
replaced. I have neither the time nor money to invest in
another server. I've already spent nearly 40 hours in
the last month on the chat problems.

If your browser doesn't work, try upgrading it to the
latest version since the upgrades for Netscape and
Internet Explorer are free. I cannot solve browser Java
implementation problems. Numerous bugs exist in earlier
implementations of Java that have been corrected.

I've talked to many people, both chat server admins and
the chat users on their systems, about this server and
99% of the responses were positive.

Ken Payne
Admin

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Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 22:24:52 GMT
From: Nick G Moulsdale
Subject: FTE Small - Tires and ice - performance, safety

Eddie Bauer Explorer '97, 4.0 liter SOHC

I'm starting my first Winter with THE TANK as we lovingly call our
explorer which we got in June. Here in England we are starting our
first real cold winter for years, been down to 27 degrees F already
and we get our cold weather in Jan/Feb usually. Questions
1. How safe is the Explorer in icy weather? I mean no special tires,
just standard A/T's as fitted new, no chains. We went up to a friends
in Bronte country Sunday, packed ice, cars sliding everywhere, but
explorer felt very safe. I put 4WD on, but I don't know if I needed
it. Safe in Ice?
2. When I put 4WD on it does NOT like going round sharp turns/bends.
Is it because something is locked? Should it be?

I love my tank, so any help appreciated

nick.moul zetnet.co.uk

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Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 15:03:39 -0800
From: Thom Cheney
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Tires and ice - performance, safety

Nick G Moulsdale wrote:
>
>I put 4WD on, but I don't know if I needed
> it. Safe in Ice?

well... safer than 2wd.

> 2. When I put 4WD on it does NOT like going round sharp turns/bends.
> Is it because something is locked? Should it be?

Save your 4wd for slippery conditions... that doesn't neccesarily mean
just wet.

- --
Thom Cheney
tcgrafx... among other things
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Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 21:07:22 -0500
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Question for Tim Turner

Anthony Rifici wrote:
>
> idle rough. For example, I work 45 miles from where I live, say I left work
> and stopped at a store near my apartment and stay there for 5-10min. When I
> restart the truck, it runs choppy until it gets all the way back up to
> temperature.

Not a LOT to go on there; I'd check for a vacuum leak somewhere and
possibly an EGR valve hanging open slightly, could even be an improper
purging of the vapor cannistor. (1st two are more likely; havent SEEN a
failure in the vapor system of a 4.0 yet) ;-) A short lesson in 'fuel
control':

Open loop- the PCM (latest term for the computer, also known as ECA,
ECM, EEC) supplies fuel and spark timing via a fixed reference in it's
memory based on inputs.

Closed loop- the PCM uses the same basic parameters, but now will modify
based on the input from the Oxygen sensor (HO2, O2, HEGO)

If you have a small problem like a minor vacuum leak it's beyond the
PCM's 'strategy' in open loop, but once it starts looking at the O2 it
can compensate for small proplems.

> The check engine light has never come on.

Unfortunately it wont unless it sees something totally beyond any normal
engine operating conditions. (Like a -40 degree coolant temperature or
wide open throttle with idle RPM) The newest vehicles are possibly TOO
sensitive.. they over-compensated. ;-) (As in a loose gas cap turns on
the light since the vapor system cant work at 100%..)

> I have tried to see if there
> are any codes stored, but didn't have any luck getting it to flash me the
> codes via the check engine light even though I followed the instructions to
> the letter.

You can buy reasonably inexpensive code readers (now!), but if the light
hasnt been coming on dont waste your $$ unless you want to have it on
hand for future problems. (Although not all codes will turn on the
light..)

>
> Thanks for any insight you might have,
> Tony

You might also want to check for any TSB's (Technical Service Bulletins)
concerning hot restarts. If you cant find a shop in your area willing
to do a quick search for related TSB's in their database let me know and
I'll look for one. (I do the mail at home so I dont have access to all
my nifty stuff here )



I wish I could help more on this one Tony.. if you have anyone look at
it (or find anything yourself), feel free to keep posting or e-mail me
manic1 bellsouth.net

TT
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Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 21:20:12 -0500
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Well, 99,013 miles and... (use to be "die in 1st and 2nd gear")

Bill wrote:
>
> It doesn't matter anymore...
> You were towed by one of those, those, things...
> Oh, the humanity...
> Sell the truck, you'll never be able to sit up straight in it again.
>


Well.. The *ONE* time I got stuck in my current truck (High centered so
all 4 wheels had no traction.. stupid mistake when I was a newbie), a
2wd Chevy (!) tugged me off the hill I was stuck on. After thanking him
I watched and waited.. helped him dig out of the area *I* had been
playing in 3 times before he finally buried himself far enough to admit
defeat and pulled him some 40 Yards back to the 'Chevy' area so he (we?)
could go home.

Dont worry.. when that Chevy gets stuck or breaks down a Ford'll give
you some payback! :-)


Tim
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Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 21:33:41 -0500
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Bronco 2 windshield trim

Harry Trafford wrote:
>
> My newly purchased 1990 B2 has a leaking windshield, making
> the interior wetter than a humidity chamber. I see that the
> metal trim is rather flat, but I don't know how to get it off
> without ruining it. Before I go hacking at it, maybe someone
> could tell me the proper procedure and tool, if any, to
> remove and replace this trim.

Most of 'em just pry off. (CAREFULLY but forcefully..) some have one
'pry' piece then the others slide in theproper directions. Use a
windshield removal tool to seperate the windshield from the supports
then black uerothane sealer and reintall. Hold the glass in place
firmly (2 people is the ideal situation) for 15 minutes or more then let
it sit overnight for it to cure fully. You might want to just ask a
good glass company how much they'd charge to reseal it; it'd only take a
pro 30 minutes tops.

>
> Additionally, I may also need to replace the rear side window
> and tailgate window rubber gaskets. Am I at the mercy of the
> Ford dealer to get this new rubber, or is there a supplier
> out there with honest pricing?
> TIA.
>

Probably Ford.. As many of these things as there out there hopefully
somebody'll start selling/stocking parts soon! (REAL soon I hope.. my
'85 B-II needs lots of little things..) Hmm.. ask the same glass place
about it?

Tim Turner/Manic Mechanic
Custer Auto Repair
Wilmington NC
manic1 bellsouth.net
> Harry
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Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 21:38:24 -0500
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Air Filter

Joe Mitchell wrote:
>
> filter. On my Ranger, there seems to be about 10 screws, a few wires,
> and a few more things running into the air system where I need to get to
> the filter.

Yep.. not as bad as it looks though; try a 'Neon'! Better yet: try to
find the battery on the full size Mopar cars.. behind the fenderwell.
(good luck getting 'free installation' of THAT battery!!)

TT
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Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 21:57:06 -0500
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Blowing Noise from 95 Explorer

Matt MacKinnon wrote:
>
> I've got a '95 Explorer XLT 4x4 with 81K miles on it.
>
> Recently it started making a noise that I've never
> heard before. The best description I can come up with
> is that is sounds like someone is blowing across the
> top of an empty beer bottle!

Check all the vacuum hoses carefully, a small leak in one can/will
whistle/moan like you describe :-)

Keep us posted!

Tim Turner/Manic Mechanic
Custer Auto Repair
Wilmington NC
manic1 bellsouth.net
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Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 22:31:26 -0500
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Tires and ice - performance, safety

Nick G Moulsdale wrote:
>
> Eddie Bauer Explorer '97, 4.0 liter SOHC
>

> 1. How safe is the Explorer in icy weather? I mean no special tires,
> just standard A/T's as fitted new, no chains. We went up to a friends
> in Bronte country Sunday, packed ice, cars sliding everywhere, but
> explorer felt very safe. I put 4WD on, but I don't know if I needed
> it. Safe in Ice?

Better to engage it and not need it.. but dont use it if there isnt SOME
low traction conditions. (Reason below). The Explorer is capable for
'normal' low traction conditions but isnt a go any-where machine like
it's Bronco/Bronco-II antecedents.. I'd feel much better in ANY 4WD
Explorer than a FWD car though!

> 2. When I put 4WD on it does NOT like going round sharp turns/bends.
> Is it because something is locked? Should it be?

The front end is 'locked' and both front wheels want to travel the same
distance around a corner; they cannot since they are differing arcs..
one wheel MUST slip/spin as the axles try to twist to relieve the
strain. (And that's why you should NOT use 4x4 on pavement.. it cant
slip on the corners and will twist/destroy your 4WD components). The
'grunt, grunt' you feel & hear on a sharp turn in sand/mud are normal
and a necessity for everything to work properly.

Since you say you have the 'Eddie Bauer' I presume it's automatic 4wd
(pushbutton), be aware that it takes up 10 feet (3 Meters) for the hubs
to engage; you MUST engage the 4wd before you need it.. If you're
already spinning you're um... screwed.. Where I live sand is the main
concern; I cant tell you how many people I've tugged out of the first
sandy spot on the beach that once they got the chance to have the hubs
engage they spent the rest of the afternoon enjoyably.. (Can you tell
I'm no fan of auto hubs?)

>
> I love my tank, so any help appreciated

Enjoy it and take it anywhere it'll go!

Tim Turner/Manic Mechanic
Custer Auto Repair
Wilmington NC
manic1 bellsouth.net
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Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 22:43:20 -0600 (EST)
From: Robert Fox
Subject: FTE Small - EEC Anything I need to know before I replace?

Well, Im willing to bet that the EEC is falling on its face so I plan on
getting a new EEC. Is there anything I need to know before/after
replacing the EEC? Or is this thing "Plug & Pray"?

Robert Fox
fox ford ranger. com
www.ford ranger. com


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Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 00:36:30 EST
From: MindEfx AOL.COM
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Tires and ice - performance, safety

Just dont forget that no matter how much traction the 4 wheel drive gives you
for steering on ice, you cant stop any better then a 2 wheel drive car or
truck..keep that in mind, and keep the speed down..

Jon
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Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 23:54:18 -0600 (EST)
From: Robert Fox
Subject: FTE Small - Was bored tonight so I scanned my EEC.

No really, I scanned my EEC-V. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.ford ....


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