small-list-digest Tuesday, November 24 1998 Volume 02 : Number 326



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In this issue:

FTE Small - Lowering ranger 4wd
Re: FTE Small - Lowering ranger 4wd
Re: FTE Small - Vehicle dynamics and ABS braking
Re: FTE Small - Vehicle dynamics and ABS braking
Re: FTE Small - Vehicle dynamics and ABS braking
FTE Small - White marks on paint...
Re: FTE Small - Lowering ranger 4wd
Re: FTE Small - Lowering ranger 4wd
Re: FTE Small - White marks on paint...
Re: FTE Small - White marks on paint...
Re: FTE Small - Lowering ranger 4wd

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Date: 23 Nov 98 07:31:23 EST
From: CharlesASkarsaune eaton.com
Subject: FTE Small - Lowering ranger 4wd

>>From: "Bernie K."
>Subject: FTE Small - lowering Ranger 4wd

>Has anyone looked into the complexities involved in dropping a 4x4 98
Ranger
>just 2-3"? I wish the factory wouldn't have lifted it quite as much for
>folks like myself who need 4wd traction, but not the high off road
clearance.
>Thanks,
>George in Ky..

No, no, no, no. 4WD's were meant to be LIFTED, not lowered!



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Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 07:53:40 -0500 (EST)
From: EI - Michael Ioco
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Lowering ranger 4wd

Absolutely correct, Charles. And if there is too much room in the fenders,
that's a bonus. That mean you can squeeze in bigger meats!!

>
> >>From: "Bernie K."
> >Subject: FTE Small - lowering Ranger 4wd
>
> >Has anyone looked into the complexities involved in dropping a 4x4 98
> Ranger
> >just 2-3"? I wish the factory wouldn't have lifted it quite as much for
> >folks like myself who need 4wd traction, but not the high off road
> clearance.
> >Thanks,
> >George in Ky..
>
> No, no, no, no. 4WD's were meant to be LIFTED, not lowered!
>
>
>

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Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 07:55:02 -0800
From: Thom Cheney
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Vehicle dynamics and ABS braking

As I understand it, the problems with ABS have been largely due to
people not braking hard enough. Somehow they feel that ABS will make
their car/truck stop faster with less braking pressure. I'm not
pointing any fingers here... just posting info from an article I read in
Car & Driver. They are no fan of ABS and care for air bags even less.
Every car/truck has different braking dynamics. I think being aware of
your vehicle's capabilities goes a long way.

Other studies that I have read (also C&D) say forget the threshold
thing... just tromp on the brakes and steer into the skid.
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Early Bronco Entertainment
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Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 15:58:50 -0500
From: "Anthony Rifici"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Vehicle dynamics and ABS braking

>As I understand it, the problems with ABS have been largely due to
>people not braking hard enough. Somehow they feel that ABS will make
>their car/truck stop faster with less braking pressure. I'm not
>pointing any fingers here... just posting info from an article I read in
>Car & Driver.

I thought that I read in C&D that it was due to people feeling
overconfident that thier vehicles will stop so they tend to wait longer
before applying the brakes or drive more aggressivly because they think they
can stop on a dime. Maybe were saying the same thing.

>Other studies that I have read (also C&D) say forget the threshold
>thing... just tromp on the brakes and steer into the skid.

Again, if I remember correctly, the article cited a performance driving
instructor as saying to forget threshold for anything under approx. 40 MPH,
slamming the pedal to the floor would produce about the same results. Also
since most people are not skilled enough to threshold brake, the advice was
to just mash it at any speed if you have 4-wheel ABS. If you don't have
4-wheel ABS and mash it at 70 MPH, your in trouble. I would imagine that he
was saying that under 40 MPH the car will shed off speed quick enough in a
skid that it would be better than an average driver wasting time and
distance trying to find the threshold. Above that speed however, you might
have trouble with the tires melting, thus reducing the friction or more
importantly not having steering capability for a longer stopping distance.

Tony
'94 Ranger Supercab, 4.0L, 5-Speed

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Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 13:28:09 -0800
From: Thom Cheney
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Vehicle dynamics and ABS braking

Anthony Rifici wrote:
>
> >As I understand it, the problems with ABS have been largely due to
> >people not braking hard enough. Somehow they feel that ABS will make
> >their car/truck stop faster with less braking pressure. I'm not
> >pointing any fingers here... just posting info from an article I read in
> >Car & Driver.
>
> I thought that I read in C&D that it was due to people feeling
> overconfident that thier vehicles will stop so they tend to wait longer
> before applying the brakes or drive more aggressivly because they think they
> can stop on a dime. Maybe were saying the same thing.
Again, if I remember correctly, the article cited a performance
driving
> instructor as saying to forget threshold for anything under approx. 40 MPH,
> slamming the pedal to the floor would produce about the same results.

yeah... I think you are right... "HONEY.... WHERE ARE MY OLD C&D
ISSUES....?"
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Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 15:52:11 PST
From: "Michael Krause"
Subject: FTE Small - White marks on paint...

Can anyone tell me how to get rid of those white marks left on the paint
after someone's door hit's yours?? I have a few of them and they are
really annoying to look at when my car is nice and polished up. Also,
has anyone used a really fine grit sandpaper or something similiar to
get underneath that top layer of gunk on your paint?? I saw a friend do
this to his car a while ago and was wondering if it's OK to do to mine.
Thanks for the help. Take care
Michael Krause
sharktooth_76 hotmail.com


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Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 20:23:33 EST
From: Genlee97 AOL.COM
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Lowering ranger 4wd

Why the he## would you lower a 4wd. LIFT IS GOOD
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Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 20:38:45 -0500
From: "Jerry Dean"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Lowering ranger 4wd

Lowriders are for guys who can't get it UP!

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Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 20:47:04 EST
From: Genlee97 AOL.COM
Subject: Re: FTE Small - White marks on paint...

You may be able to wet sand the white marks. Then rubbing compound and after
that polishing compound but don't sand too hard or too much!
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Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 23:59:23 -0600
From: mercury
Subject: Re: FTE Small - White marks on paint...

Michael Krause wrote:
>
> Can anyone tell me how to get rid of those white marks left on the paint
> after someone's door hit's yours?? I have a few of them and they are
> really annoying to look at when my car is nice and polished up. Also,
> has anyone used a really fine grit sandpaper or something similiar to
> get underneath that top layer of gunk on your paint?? I saw a friend do
> this to his car a while ago and was wondering if it's OK to do to mine.
> Thanks for the help. Take care
> Michael Krause
> sharktooth_76 hotmail.com
>
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I'd say grab some polishing compound and start in with a soft cloth,it
will take a lot of the old oxidation and surface scratches off,and leave
most paints shiny.

merc.
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Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 23:05:43 -0600 (CST)
From: Diana Slyter
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Lowering ranger 4wd

No need for Nomex. For some severe off road uses lifting a 4x4 is useful.
To handle snow like we get here in Minnesota the standard Ranger is more
than tall enough.

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On 23 Nov 1998 CharlesASkarsaune eaton.com wrote:

>
> >>From: "Bernie K."
> >Subject: FTE Small - lowering Ranger 4wd
>
> >Has anyone looked into the complexities involved in dropping a 4x4 98
> Ranger
> >just 2-3"? I wish the factory wouldn't have lifted it quite as much for
> >folks like myself who need 4wd traction, but not the high off road
> clearance.
> >Thanks,
> >George in Ky..
>
> No, no, no, no. 4WD's were meant to be LIFTED, not lowered!
>
>
>
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>

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