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Re: FTE Small - P235/75R15 on 91 Ranger 4x4
FTE Small - Looking for...
FTE Small - P235/75R15 on 91 Ranger 4x4
FTE Small - Paint Restoration
FTE Small - '97 Explorer
Re: FTE Small - '97 Explorer
Re: FTE Small - '97 Explorer
Re: FTE Small - 92-93 5-Speed Transmissions
FTE Small - Paint oxidizing
Re: FTE Small - '97 Explorer
Re: FTE Small - Paint Restoration
Re: FTE Small - '97 Explorer
Re: FTE Small - Looking for...
FTE Small - RE: Tauri and Aerostars
Re: FTE Small - Looking for...
Re: FTE Small - P235/75R15 on 91 Ranger 4x4
Re: FTE Small - P235/75R15 on 91 Ranger 4x4
Re: FTE Small - P235/75R15 on 91 Ranger 4x4
FTE Small - 94-Ranger DAsh

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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 08:40:06 -0500
From: "Brian Cail"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - P235/75R15 on 91 Ranger 4x4

I don't know about the brand of tire you are looking at, but the size should
fit fine. I have a stock 90 Bronco II 4x4 and that is the size I put on.
Personally, I think this is the size that Ford should have used in the first
place. They really fill the wheelwell good without any rub. My preference
for brand is the B.F. Goodrich All Terrain. Excellent tire!!!

You should see about a 4-5 mph difference using this size.

Brian Cail
North Carolina



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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 09:17:08 -0500
From: Daner
Subject: FTE Small - Looking for...

I'm looking for a EXT-A-CAB RANGER in good to mint condition without a
driveline.
I want to drop my 5.0L and t-5 into, since my 1989 ext-a-cab is rusty.
Any year past '89 I'm interested in.

I went t a FORD dealership yesterday and enquired about '99 4-door RANGER,
and he said he couldn't sell me a '99 without a motor or tranny. I asked
him, he
"couldn't or wouldn't", he replied wouldn't.

If anyone has any information on a truck please reply to me, thanks in
advance.


Daner
Daner Racing
London, Ontario, Canada
Home of the budget 5.0L Ranger, without a budget!
Best time (in '98) in the quarter - 14.037 95.53 mph
Aiming for low 13's high 12's for '99

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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 09:10:28 -0500
From: Michael Mulcahy
Subject: FTE Small - P235/75R15 on 91 Ranger 4x4

Mark,
Unfortunately I haven't tried either but if you're going to buy Firestone
look at the Firestone Radial ATX's, they came stock on most Explorers and
Navajos in the early 90's. My dad's original set lasted him 120k miles and
he never maintained his steering system. These tires are 235/75/15 but on
a 4.0 with 2.73 gears i can't imagine any performance loss. I don't know
what you want to pay but these tires will cost around 400, but worth it.
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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 08:25:14 -0600
From: gmv ddc-us.com
Subject: FTE Small - Paint Restoration

There are excellent, very detailed instructions on how to maintain
your finish at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.carcareonline.com/howto_articles.html
Read these, and you will know more than you ever thought there was
to know about keeping your truck shiny.

Greg Voelker
gmv ddc-us.com
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.usinternet.com/users/gvoelker
Current Ranger: '98 4-door SC 4x4 4.0L
Previous Ranger: '94 XLT SC 4.0L

> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 12:52:06 -0500
> From: "Bill"
> Subject: FTE Small - Paint Restoration
>
> Question for all, and I'm sure opinions will be varied.
> What do you find is the best product for restoring the luster
> to a fading
> paint job, and which wax product seems to give the best shine and
> protection?
>
(snip)
>
> Bill
> kiteflyer earthlink.net
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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 08:57:21 -0600
From: Dave_Allen notes.sabre.com
Subject: FTE Small - '97 Explorer

My wife has a '97 Explorer with about 25,000 miles on it. We have had
various warranty problems with it, like replacement of power steering pump
(twice), 4X4 switch, and throttle body. We are still experiencing the
following:

1) When starting, immediately after turning it over, the engine will rev
up for a couple of seconds before returning to normal. It is almost like
someone is stepping on the gas while turning it over. After starting,
there is an odd noise from the engine that you can only hear from outside
the car. It is like a pinging type of noise, and it will go away about
10-15 seconds after the engine is running.

2) When idling, there is a noticeable "groan" coming from the engine that
will go up and down with the engine speed.

I was wondering if anyone else had these problems, or any others with the
'97 Explorer. After all our problems with the '91, I can't believe my wife
wanted another one.

Thanks.....


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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 10:29:40 -0500
From: luxjo thecore.com
Subject: Re: FTE Small - '97 Explorer

Dave_Allen notes.sabre.com wrote:
>

> 1) When starting, immediately after turning it over, the engine will rev
> up for a couple of seconds before returning to normal. It is almost like
> someone is stepping on the gas while turning it over.

My sisters 96 does that also. Has ever since new. It does it more when
cold, like a fast idle setting. My 86 capri also did this when it was
speed density (cold or hot). Oddly enough, it stopped doing it when I
swirthed over to mass air computer.

OX


After starting,
> there is an odd noise from the engine that you can only hear from outside
> the car. It is like a pinging type of noise, and it will go away about
> 10-15 seconds after the engine is running.
>
> 2) When idling, there is a noticeable "groan" coming from the engine that
> will go up and down with the engine speed.
>
> I was wondering if anyone else had these problems, or any others with the
> '97 Explorer. After all our problems with the '91, I can't believe my wife
> wanted another one.
>
> Thanks.....
>
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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 11:33:21 -0500
From: Jim Storch
Subject: Re: FTE Small - '97 Explorer

luxjo thecore.com wrote:
>
> My sisters 96 does that also. Has ever since new. It does it more when
> cold, like a fast idle setting. My 86 capri also did this when it was
> speed density (cold or hot). Oddly enough, it stopped doing it when I
> swirthed over to mass air computer.

What was involved in changing over to mass air? If you have detailed
information or know where to get it, I'm sure the guys over on Kunz
Korner
(which is the 2.9L V6 message board) would love to hear it. The address
is:

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.ford ranger. com/wwwboard3.html

They've discussed this quite a bit and no one seems to have all the
details.
There apparently was a 2.9L mass air produced for a Merkur but they're
not having much luck finding one to disect.

Any info you have would be helpful. Thanks

JimS
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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 12:22:56 -0500
From: "Bill"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - 92-93 5-Speed Transmissions

'93 Ranger, 5 speed, 4.0L
Beginning of bell housing to center of rear transmission mount= 26"
Hope this is what you wanted.

Bill
kiteflyer earthlink.net

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From:
To:
Date: Thursday, November 19, 1998 3:42 AM
Subject: FTE Small - 92-93 5-Speed Transmissions


>92-93 Ranger or Explorer 5-speed owners I need your help. I need to know
the
>measurement between the bellhousing mounting surface (where bellhousing
meets
>engine) to the transmission mount centerline (center of bolts that attach
to
>crossmember). It must be a V-6 engine, 2.9, 3.0, or 4.0L and a 2 wheel
drive.
>This information is very important so I can get my Ranger back up and
running.
>If you don't want to post here then please e-mail me direct at
>prodrvr11 aol.com.
>
>Thank you very much in advance,
>Robert Hamblin
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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 09:38:59 PST
From: "Michael Krause"
Subject: FTE Small - Paint oxidizing

Since we are on the subject of washing and waxing a car, I might as well
throw out my question and experience with waxes. My question is this:
What can you do if your paint starts to oxidize?? My '91 Explorer,
forest green color, hasn't had a "real" wash since I've moved out to Ca
3 months ago and now I've found spots of oxidization starting to form.
I'm going to hand wash it tomorrow, but I need to know what to do about
it so I can get those little white spots to go away. Now onto the
waxes. I used to use Mother's 3 phase waxes(Pre-wax cleaner, sealer and
glaze, and a carnauba wax) which worked really well though it took A LOT
of time. Tomorrow when I wash and wax my car I'm going to use Eagle
One's wax product and I will post my thoughts on it. Hope this helps
and thanks to all who answer my oxidation question.
Michael Krause
sharktooth_76 hotmail.com

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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 11:55:33 -0500
From: luxjo thecore.com
Subject: Re: FTE Small - '97 Explorer

Jim Storch wrote:
>
> luxjo thecore.com wrote:
> >
> > My sisters 96 does that also. Has ever since new. It does it more when
> > cold, like a fast idle setting. My 86 capri also did this when it was
> > speed density (cold or hot). Oddly enough, it stopped doing it when I
> > swirthed over to mass air computer.
>
> What was involved in changing over to mass air?

My sisters 96 is an explorer, but my 86 Capri is a 5.0, I was just using
that as a generic Ford example pertaining to fast idle on startup.


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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 13:14:19 -0500
From: "Bill"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Paint Restoration

Greg,
Great site, although the products offered by them are expensive.

I ended up using a polishing compound, followed by a carnauba wax, and it
looks like a new truck. It's a lot of work, but the results are worth it.

Bill
kiteflyer earthlink.net



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From:
To:
Date: Thursday, November 19, 1998 9:29 AM
Subject: FTE Small - Paint Restoration


>There are excellent, very detailed instructions on how to maintain
>your finish at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.carcareonline.com/howto_articles.html
>Read these, and you will know more than you ever thought there was
>to know about keeping your truck shiny.
>
>Greg Voelker
>gmv ddc-us.com
>http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.usinternet.com/users/gvoelker
>Current Ranger: '98 4-door SC 4x4 4.0L
>Previous Ranger: '94 XLT SC 4.0L
>
>> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 12:52:06 -0500
>> From: "Bill"
>> Subject: FTE Small - Paint Restoration
>>
>> Question for all, and I'm sure opinions will be varied.
>> What do you find is the best product for restoring the luster
>> to a fading
>> paint job, and which wax product seems to give the best shine and
>> protection?
>>
>(snip)
>>
>> Bill
>> kiteflyer earthlink.net
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>

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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 13:29:19 -0500 (EST)
From: EI - Michael Ioco
Subject: Re: FTE Small - '97 Explorer

My 96 did have some of the symptoms you mention, but they were barely noticable.
I can understand why your wife wanted another Explorer. There is just a massive
difference between the 91 and 97. I've had 4 of them, the latest being a 99,
and they just keep getting better and better. The 94 needed the tranny replaced
after I beat on it, and the 96 had an emission control module go out, otherwise
they've been great. There is a reason that the Ford Explorer is the best
selling sport utility out there. It IS the best, and it keeps getting better.

Mike in Michigan

99 Explorer Premium Sport 4x4, SOHC, 265's.....
98 Ranger SC ORP 4x4
97 F-150 SC ORP 4x4
>
> My wife has a '97 Explorer with about 25,000 miles on it. We have had
> various warranty problems with it, like replacement of power steering pump
> (twice), 4X4 switch, and throttle body. We are still experiencing the
> following:
>
> 1) When starting, immediately after turning it over, the engine will rev
> up for a couple of seconds before returning to normal. It is almost like
> someone is stepping on the gas while turning it over. After starting,
> there is an odd noise from the engine that you can only hear from outside
> the car. It is like a pinging type of noise, and it will go away about
> 10-15 seconds after the engine is running.
>
> 2) When idling, there is a noticeable "groan" coming from the engine that
> will go up and down with the engine speed.
>
> I was wondering if anyone else had these problems, or any others with the
> '97 Explorer. After all our problems with the '91, I can't believe my wife
> wanted another one.
>
> Thanks.....
>
>
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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 14:37:34 -0500 (EST)
From: EI - Michael Ioco
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Looking for...

What are these "Ext-a-cab" or "Extra-cab" Rangers? Doesn't Mitsubishi or
somebody make those? Ford only makes SuperCabs and Crew Cabs (F-series,
4-doors) trucks as far as I knew....



>
> I'm looking for a EXT-A-CAB RANGER in good to mint condition without a
> driveline.
dvance.
>
>
> Daner

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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 11:14:18 -0800
From: "Pete Lawless"
Subject: FTE Small - RE: Tauri and Aerostars

Tim Turner wrote:
>A long held theory of mine is that the 'cheaper' cars get a bad rep.
>just simply because people buy them that cannot afford to maintain them
>and beat 'em into the ground.

Here, Here...... I second that... I have friends that religiously change
their oil at least once or twice during the life of their vehicle (short as
that may be!!!)

Later.... Pete

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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 13:10:56 -0800
From: Thom Cheney
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Looking for...

EI - Michael Ioco wrote:
>
> What are these "Ext-a-cab" or "Extra-cab" Rangers? Doesn't Mitsubishi or
> somebody make those? Ford only makes SuperCabs and Crew Cabs (F-series,
> 4-doors) trucks as far as I knew....


I dunno what's so super about the cab... it does have a little EXTRA
room behind my front seat... back where where my son sits in the jump
seat and sips his coke.. or was that pepsi? does it matter?

- --
Thom Cheney
Early Bronco Entertainment
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.EarlyBroncoEnt.com
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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 15:24:07 -0600
From: Jordan
Subject: Re: FTE Small - P235/75R15 on 91 Ranger 4x4

At 09:10 AM 11/19/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Mark,
> Unfortunately I haven't tried either but if you're going to buy Firestone
>look at the Firestone Radial ATX's, they came stock on most Explorers and
>Navajos in the early 90's. My dad's original set lasted him 120k miles and
>he never maintained his steering system. These tires are 235/75/15 but on
>a 4.0 with 2.73 gears i can't imagine any performance loss. I don't know
>what you want to pay but these tires will cost around 400, but worth it.
>Good luck.
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Arrrggg I hate the Firestone radial ATX's that came on my Explorer, pitiful
ride and grip. Here is my suggestion, the Michellin LTX M/S are considered
just about the best tire for suv's or small trucks that aren't going to see
much off road use. these will run you 98 /tire, or you can go with a Fisk
Phantom (Fisk is a sub company of Michellin) that is basically the same
tire. The Fisk Phantoms I just had put on my explorer are MUCH better than
the firestones.

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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 16:19:01 -0800
From: "Eric Davis"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - P235/75R15 on 91 Ranger 4x4

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Date: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 7:45 PM
Subject: FTE Small - P235/75R15 on 91 Ranger 4x4


>I have a 91 Ranger 4x4, Xtracab, 4.0 w/ automatic, 3.73 axle ratio.
Presently
>have LT215/75R15 (Wildcountry RVT) that need to be replaced. Local tire
>dealer has a good deal on Firestone Wilderness AT but only in P235/75R15.
>Some questions:


I have these tires,but they are 16" not 15". I think they look to small. As
for road noise there is very little, grip is pretty good on road as for
off-road they could be better, but they will handle moderate stuff. Wear I
think is good. I only have 2500miles on my truck and I don't see any
problems. As for loss of power I don't known. When these go out I going to
265 at least.

Eric Davis

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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 21:13:40 -0500
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - P235/75R15 on 91 Ranger 4x4

Jordan wrote:
>
> Arrrggg I hate the Firestone radial ATX's that came on my Explorer, pitiful
> ride and grip. Here is my suggestion, the Michellin LTX M/S are considered
> just about the best tire for suv's or small trucks that aren't going to see
> much off road use. these will run you 98 /tire, or you can go with a Fisk
> Phantom (Fisk is a sub company of Michellin) that is basically the same
> tire. The Fisk Phantoms I just had put on my explorer are MUCH better than
> the firestones.

Bridgestone Dueler HT's are REAL popular in my area and seem pretty
capable in sand with little or no noise. I'll opt for the Dueler AT on
mine next time though for the extra off-road traction. (Note..
31x10.5's are too much for Bronco-II's (and probably Rangers) without a
small lift unless you drive *very* conservatively.) No slight against
Michelin, but I just dont LIKE 'em.. I've never had good mileage with
'em and they're miserable to mount/dismount from a technicians
viewpoint.

Tires are like oil.. everybody has a favorite and they're all capable
actually.

Tim Turner/Manic Mechanic
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