small-list-digest Thursday, November 12 1998 Volume 02 : Number 315



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In this issue:

FTE Small - '87 BroncoII
FTE Small - Explorer Hood Lifts?
Re: FTE Small - Explorer Hood Lifts?
Re: FTE Small - Power Steering Pulley
Re: FTE Small - Tachometer problem
Re: FTE Small - Temp Gauge Question
FTE Small - Re: Too Hott to handle
Re: FTE Small - Ranger 4 speed Auto Help Needed
Re: FTE Small - '91 Explorer - Engine chatter
Re: FTE Small - '87 BroncoII
FTE Small - Re: Too Hott To Handle
Re: FTE Small - Explorer Hood Lifts?
FTE Small - '91 Ranger spark plugs
FTE Small - manual locking hubs dial
FTE Small - Explorer Air Conditioning
Re: FTE Small - '91 Ranger spark plugs
Re: FTE Small - manual locking hubs dial
RE: FTE Small - '91 Ranger spark plugs
FTE Small - Conversion from 2.9 to 4.0
FTE Small - Ranger diesel

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:02:21 -0500
From: "DuPont, Patrick"
Subject: FTE Small - '87 BroncoII

Hello,
I need to inquire as to where we would post classifieds. I am being forced
to sell my '87 BroncoII (97,800 orig miles) due to family expansion (wife is
expecting #3 in March). I hate to part with this truck but would like to
know if there is someplace on the website that would allow me to post my
truck. I apologize if this posting should not have gone to the newsgroup, I
don't want to deviate from the purpose of this listing--I have benefited
greatly over the years by the excellent advice provided by all of you.
Patrick Dupont
Philadelphia PA

'87 Ford BroncoII
'88 Ford Taurus
'96 Ford Windstar (I can't believe I had to buy a minivan...won't drive
anything but a FORD though!)


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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 00:43:28 -0500
From: Geoffrey Hoffman
Subject: FTE Small - Explorer Hood Lifts?

I saw in a catalog a while ago gas-lifts for the hood on the explorer (just
like the tailgate) but I forgot where, and can't for the life of me figure
out where I saw them. Anyone else know what I am talking about? Anyone
use these and recommend them or not recommend them?

Thanks for your time.
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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:55:38 PST
From: diamondflight155 mailexcite.com
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Explorer Hood Lifts?

Go to www.kustomz.com and look under the 'Ranger" link (It might be under
the "Explorer" one too..Im not sure) And go down near the bottom, and there
they are..

Steve




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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 18:53:50 -0500
From: Randy Shelton
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Power Steering Pulley

At 04:46 PM 11/8/98 EST, you wrote:
>Okay what's the trick to removing the power steering pump pulley? I put my
>pulley puller tool in it and cranked down until the pulley was out of shape.
>Now I need another pulley, good thing I have a spare motor with power
steering
>pump. The end of the shaft has a hex head like an Allen wrench is used but
>the Chilton manual says nothing about it. Anyone removed one before? Is
mine
>just stuck on from years of desert blasting? They aren't treaded on are
they?
>
>Thank you in advance,
>Robert
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Robert,

You must a SPECIAL puller for this. Snap-On makes one, they're not cheap.
Hard to describe, but it is a barrel that locks around the small front
of the pulley. A regular gear puller will not work. When you get a new/rebuilt
pump, it will come with a screw and nut to press the pulley back on with.

Hope you know a good mechanic who will let you borrow his puller.

Randy,
97 supercab

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 19:25:49 -0500
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Tachometer problem

Greg Davis wrote:
>
> I'm new to this area so if this has been addressed before please forgive
> me. I have a '91 Ranger XLT 2.3L 5 speed with 127K miles. My tach
> stopped working properly. It moves a little, but not accurate at all. My
> check engine light also comes on about 10 seconds after I start the
> truck. I hooked up a cheapy ($40) diagnostic/tester to it and all it showed was "Loss
> of tachometer signal". Duh! Any suggestions on what would cause this?
>
> Thanks for any help anyone can provide.
> Greg
>

Basically 3 probablities;

1) The ignition module is not sending out a proper tach signal (most
likely)
2) The wiring between the module and the PCM (computer) is chafed
(possible)
3) the PCM itself is bad (never seen one fail THAT way though..)

Off the top of my head if the Tach was bad it might damp the signal
below what the PCM could read, but I dont remember that being in the
diagnostic trouble-tree for that code. The best thing to do is get a
copy of the test you need for that code and follow it to the
conclusion. If you've got a good relationship with a shop in your area
they'll probably print/fax it to you; if not give me a call at
910-791-4440 10:00-18:00 EST and we'll work it out. :-)

Tim Turner/Manic Mechanic
Custer Auto Repair
Wilmington NC
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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 19:41:38 -0500
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Temp Gauge Question

Joe Mitchell wrote:
>
> I have no idea if anyone will know this...maybe so....I have a '91 Ford
> Ranger XLT 4x2 with a 2.3L 5spd engine. My temp gauge has not moved
> since I bought the truck 2 months ago. It stays slightly below the C on
> the scale....anyone know how to fix this?

I know everyone's saying thrmostat, but just in case that ISNT the
problem here's the basic troubleshooting procedure for guages. Key
on-engine off, locate the wire at the sending unit, unplug it, observe
guage, ground the lead, observe guage again. The guage should move from
one extreme to the other; if this is the case then the sender is bad,
else it's wiring or the guage itself

> Should I have a pro do it?

Depends on how comfortable you are with removing the instrument panel if
the above test shows a need for checking the wiring/guage; it's a pretty
easy one to remove... The sending units are pretty common failures, but
unfortunately guages are not real reliable in the small Fords.
(Including my own.. 60 Miles from fill-up it says 'E'; drive another 270
Miles and fill-up again )

> I've never dealt with something like this before...so I'm not sure what
> is wrong and where.....Thanx for any help you have.. :)

Hope this helps you or others :-)

> --
> Joe
> --
> I'd push a Ford before I drove a Chevy, but I don't need to.
> --

^^^^^^^^^^^ I LIKE that tagline!

Tim Turner/Manic Mechanic
Custer Auto Repair
Wilmington NC
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Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 21:58:25 -0600
From: Bill Adams
Subject: FTE Small - Re: Too Hott to handle



 
Date: Sat, 7 Nov
1998 12:32:43 EST
From: FORD3644 AOL.COM
Subject: FTE Small
- - Re: Too Hott to handle
S-10 ha ha ha. Tell
another one. If someone gave me a chevy the only place
i
would drive it is
to the dealership and trade for cash. And believe me i
would
carry a big toolbox.
Mark Jackson
Slightly of topic:
I pulled into a hardware
store the other day behind one of the nicest 98 F-250s I have seen. On
the back window was the typical _little boy p**ing on a chevy emblem_ sticker,
except this time the little boys back was turned to the chevy emblem. I
complemented the guy on his nice truck, he admired my 66 F-100. Then I
asked him what exactly what that sticker in his back window meant.
His answer? _It means
I wouldn't even Pi** on a Chevy_.
 
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Bill Adams
92 Explorer 2dr 2wd
XLT
66 F-100 352V8, T18
Granny 4spd, AC, PS, primer in color.
61 F-100 Unibody 223
and a three on the tree.
and two junkers on blocks
out back.
 
                         
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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 20:23:39 -0500
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Ranger 4 speed Auto Help Needed

BowmanTK AOL.COM wrote:
>
> My son just purchased a '87 Ranger pickup with the 4 speed automatic trans.
> The trans is constantly in forward gear (yes even in park).

Strange.. I had a Maxima in the shop last Wed. for that problem!

> I pulled the
> transmission pan and the fluid was darker than motor oil to the point of being
> sludgy.

As would be expected when the tranny's fighting itself. :-(

> I blew out the cooler lines and was unable to drain the converter.
> We cleaned the pan. I refilled the tranny with clean fluid but the symptoms
> still remain. I suspect that the valve body is stuck with all of the sludge.

That was my first instinct as well, but a long talk with a transmission
specialist had me pretty well convinced it was a 'hard parts' problem,
but the possibility is still very real.

> My questions are: Can (Should) I remove the valve body with the tranny in the
> truck and then clean it out and have any possiblity of avoiding a full
> teardown?

Well the only thing you've got to lose by trying it is some time and
some fluid! :-) (Father/son project?)

> Would any later years of Mustang or other FOMOCO automatic 4 speed
> overdrive fit? The truck has 134k on it.

I'm not sure there, but others here might; or a good boneyard should
have an interchange guide.

>
> Or should I just visit our friendly wrecking yard and get a new tranny/torque
> converter? It's probably less work.
>

Something to TRY if you're so inclined.. You may have seen the
'transmission flush' machines, basically all they do is let the oil pump
pick up new fluid and expel old. 2 5-Gal. buckets and some hose are all
you need to DIY, remove one cooler line, crank the engine to note wich
way the fluid travels, put the intake hose into the bucket with 3.5-5
Gal. of new ATF and the outlet hose into the empty bucket, crank it up
and let it exchange all the fluid. (Run some type of cleaner in the
tranny before you start this though.)

> PS: The price was definately right on this truck as the seller and the buyer
> knew of the transmission condition.
>

Ought to be a good truck for him once you get this problem solved. :-)

Tim Turner/Manic Mechanic
Custer Auto Repair
Wilmington NC
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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 20:47:32 -0500
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - '91 Explorer - Engine chatter

"Kenneth C. St.John" wrote:
>
> I had a strange symptom appear today on my '91 Explorer. This weekend, for
> the first time this year, the temperature dipped below 30 degrees. I
> started up my vehicle this morning, went inside while it warmed up, and when
> I returned -- the engine was off and there was a chattering noise (like a
> confused relay). The check engine light (as well as all the electronics)
> was flickering on/off. I attempted to start my vehicle but had a hard time
> keeping the engine going. I stayed with it and then all of a sudden the
> engine returned to normal and all was well. I drove it today as usual
> without any further incident. Doesn't this sound like a relay of sometype?
> If so, which and where? I'll see how this acts tomorrow.
>
> Thanks in advance to all
> Ken
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I *HOPE* I'm wrong here, but it sounds like your PCM (computer) is
having 'epileptic fits' and cycling all it's outputs at random. The
most likely cause would be a poor solder joint somewhere inside it and
it's temperature dependant; once it ran enough to heat up it
straightened out. For some reason the hot/cold/hot/cold weather in
spring and fall seems to bring that kind of problem to light; probably
80% of the PCM's I replace are near that kind of weather. I would check
all the ground connections and make sure they're clean and tight first
off though. BTW the PCM supplies the ground for the relays involved.
(Fuel and power relays), both should be located in the relay center by
the battery.

Tim Turner/Manic Mechanic
Custer Auto Repair
Wilmington NC
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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 21:02:25 -0500
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - '87 BroncoII

"DuPont, Patrick" wrote:
>
> Hello,
> I need to inquire as to where we would post classifieds.

On the main page (http://www.ford-trucks.com/) there's a choice for
classifieds. :-)

> I am being forced
> to sell my '87 BroncoII (97,800 orig miles) due to family expansion (wife is
> expecting #3 in March).

Hmm.. make a rearward facing jumpseat in the back instead?

I hate to part with this truck

Amen.. I'd hate to see my '85 B-II go.

>
> '87 Ford BroncoII
> '88 Ford Taurus
> '96 Ford Windstar (I can't believe I had to buy a minivan...won't drive
> anything but a FORD though!)

Sell the Taurus!!! If you dont know by now they're money-pits.. if I
was paid a percentage I'd love Taureses (Taurusi? Tauri?) Heck.. sell
the wife! :-)

Tim Turner/Manic Mechanic
Custer Auto Repair
Wilmington NC

PS: If I was in the market I'd sure ask what you wanted for it!

TT
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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 19:17:32 PST
From: "Joe Mitchell"
Subject: FTE Small - Re: Too Hott To Handle

>S-10 ha ha ha. Tell another one. If someone gave me a chevy the only
place i
>would drive it is to the dealership and trade for cash. And believe me
i would
>carry a big toolbox.
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Drive it? I'd still rather just pull it with my real truck...... ;)
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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 22:17:24 EST
From: RReed44450 AOL.COM
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Explorer Hood Lifts?

I have a '98 Explorer and the truck came stock with the hood lifts and they
work very well. I have converted previous vehicles to gas hood lifts, having
obtained them from a local parts store.
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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 19:23:51 PST
From: "Joe Mitchell"
Subject: FTE Small - '91 Ranger spark plugs

Ok, I'm not sure if only the 2.3L engine has this...but I have a
question about the spark plugs. I replaced the ones that I can reach, on
the passanger side, but I didn't know if it was worth it or not to take
off some parts to reach the other 4. Should I just take it to a tune-up
place and let them finish the job? Is it as hard as it looks to get to
the four that are on the drivers' side? Thanx if you have any info...
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Joe
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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 22:17:53 EST
From: BubbaBlake AOL.COM
Subject: FTE Small - manual locking hubs dial

i have an 88 bronco II . the plastic dial that locks in the 4 wheel drive got
chewed up on some guard rails this summer and i am wodering if there is a
catch to replacing this part. my manual only has info on the hub and bearings
and states that you should not remove that screw that holds this dial to the
hub assembly. any help would be appreciated.
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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 22:40:24 EST
From: RReed44450 AOL.COM
Subject: FTE Small - Explorer Air Conditioning

I have a '98 Explorer Sport and suspect that the air conditioning is not
functioning properly. I would very much appreciate any input on the following
condition:

The air conditioner compressor cycles off about every 15-25 seconds. The
compressor clutch stays disengaged for about 10 seconds, then re-engages. I
took the truck to the Ford Dealer with a description of the problem and they
wrote "OAD operates as designed - vehicle's compressor is going to cycle off
and on!!!"
(Yes, they included the snotty exclamation points)

1. Can anyone tell me what the OAD is?
2. Can anyone tell me how their Explorers AC compressors act?

I had a '96 Ranger before the Explorer and the compressor ran all the time?
Thanks in advance for your comments and/or suggestions.

Russell
Orlando, FL
'98 Explorer Sport
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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 00:02:22 -0500
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - '91 Ranger spark plugs

Joe Mitchell wrote:
>
> the passanger side, but I didn't know if it was worth it or not to take
> off some parts to reach the other 4. Should I just take it to a tune-up
> place and let them finish the job? Is it as hard as it looks to get to
> the four that are on the drivers' side? Thanx if you have any info...

You can do it.. a universal will come in handy as will skinny arms! You
dont really need to take any major parts off even though it LOOKS like
you do. :-)

Tim Turner/Manic Mechanic
Custer Auto Repair
Wilmington NC
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> Joe
> --
> I'd push a Ford before I drove a Chevy, but I don't need to.
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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 00:07:21 -0500
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - manual locking hubs dial

BubbaBlake AOL.COM wrote:
>
> i have an 88 bronco II . the plastic dial that locks in the 4 wheel drive got
> chewed up on some guard rails this summer and i am wodering if there is a
> catch to replacing this part. my manual only has info on the hub and bearings
> and states that you should not remove that screw that holds this dial to the
> hub assembly. any help would be appreciated.
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Oh boy.. you'll have fun! One tech I worked with accidentally did that
and it took us a while to get it working again. I dont remember the
details (I wish I did!), but it'll have to go together JUST right, but
it can be done, I think it's a matter of getting the depth right so that
1/4 turn will engage properly.. keep at it and you'll have it licked.
:-)

TT
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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 09:14:37 -0500
From: "Dave Schultz"
Subject: RE: FTE Small - '91 Ranger spark plugs

I was able to replace ALL the plugs on my 91 2.3L in 50 minutes!
No parts had to be moved/removed. Tools I used:

12" 3/8 extension
3/8 universal joint
3" 3/8 "wobble" extension

I found that between the wobble and the U joint (some times
both at the same time I could remove and install all the plugs
on the intake side of the engine. I found it does take some effort
to remove the plug wires. I used a pair of slip joint pliers for the rear
two.

Hope this helps!

BTW: I installed Autolite Double Platinum plugs...The job wasn't
to bad bud I DONT'T want to do that again.

Dave

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Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 10:24 PM
To: small-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: FTE Small - '91 Ranger spark plugs


Ok, I'm not sure if only the 2.3L engine has this...but I have a
question about the spark plugs. I replaced the ones that I can reach, on
the passanger side, but I didn't know if it was worth it or not to take
off some parts to reach the other 4. Should I just take it to a tune-up
place and let them finish the job? Is it as hard as it looks to get to
the four that are on the drivers' side? Thanx if you have any info...
- --
Joe
- --
I'd push a Ford before I drove a Chevy, but I don't need to.
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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 15:30:17 -0500
From: Michael Mulcahy
Subject: FTE Small - Conversion from 2.9 to 4.0

I have an '87 Bronco II that i want to drop a 4.0L into. I've heard the
swap is easy and no major modifications are required. If anyone has any
information or or knows where I could find some please let me know!
Mike
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