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In this issue:

FTE Small - New Explorer catalog - free
Re: FTE Small - four wheel drive
FTE Small - Bronco II Armrest
Re: FTE Small - Bronco II Armrest
FTE Small - My foul starter
[none]
Re: FTE Small - My foul starter
FTE Small - Re:
Re: FTE Small - Bronco II Armrest
Re: FTE Small - My foul starter
Re: FTE Small - Bronco II Armrest
Re: FTE Small - New Explorer catalog - free
FTE Small - Nominate Ford Truck Enthusiasts?
FTE Small - Sorry bout that (was re:autokrafters new catalog)
FTE Small - Hot Tapes

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Date: Wed, 4 Nov 98 08:42:21 -0500
From: "Ronald D. Miller"
Subject: FTE Small - New Explorer catalog - free

Our latest Explorer catalog is now ready for mailing and is free to list
subscribers. Email me your address along with year of Explorer owned.
Addresses are confidential.
Thanks,
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Auto Krafters. Inc.

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Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:05:27 -0500 (EST)
From: EI - Michael Ioco
Subject: Re: FTE Small - four wheel drive

Don, I agree with most of what Tim said, with a few exceptions. I may be wrong,
but it doesn't sound like you are going to be pounding the trails anytime soon.
Sounds more like you'll just be doing a little experimenting and maybe running
into some slick roads now and then? That was some superb info though, Tim.

I'm guessing that since this is your first 4x4, you do have the automatic hubs.
New trucks with manuals are usually ordered that way. Somebody who orders
manuals, is usually a pretty avid off-roader, or needs the manual hubs for
towing purposes (i.e. behind a motorhome).

Some nice things about the new automatic 4x4 systems, is that it distributes
power to the wheels as they need them. So if it starts to snow and you're
feeling a little uneasy, go ahead and but it into 4x4 hi. I think that is like
a 30/70 split. Very little power is going to your front wheels. But as soon as
you start to loose traction, the power will be shifted appropriately. You can
shift into and out of 4x4 hi at any speed.

Don't worry about accidently shifting into 4Lo while moving, it's not going to
let you. You have to be in neutral for this.

To shift into 4x4Hi, like Tim said, it may take a couple feet. I usually here
mine engace immediately though. But with the newer 4x4 sytems like yours, you no
longer need to back up to disengage the hubs. I haven't had to do this since my
94 Explorer.

That was some superb info though, Tim. Sounds like you've got some experience.

Mike in Michigan
99 Explorer 4x4 Sport
98 Ranger 4x4 SC ORP
97 F-150 4x4 SC ORP


> I agree with all Thom said; what type of trans and hub do you have? The
> biggest thing is dont shift between 4Hi & 4Lo without stopping!! If you
> have manual hubs dont switch between 2Hi & 4Hi on the fly unless your
> hubs are in 'LOCK'; you CAN still switch to 4Lo in 'FREE' AFTER STOPPING
> and just use the lower gearing in 2WD in abnormal situations or just to
> get used to the lower ratio as you learn your new toy. If you have AUTO
> hubs than be aware that it takes a few feet to engage/disengage the
> hubs; engage the hubs BEFORE you need them, otherwise it's too late and
> you're stuck, also when you DISengage, you need to reverse course for 10
> feet or so else they'll stay engaged and you hurt the axles etc. I'm
> not going to tell you how many people I see stuck at the first crossover
> at the local beach from engaging the hubs too late.. or the damages I
> fix from people NOT disengaging auto hubs properly as they LEAVE the
> beach. I've had one vehicle with auto hubs and it invariably stranded
> me when the going got tough, (POP!.. Oh Damn.. there went that hub
> again.. hope somebody'll be along to pull me back 10' soon..), but nary
> a problem on my cheesy little Bronco-II manual hubs.
>
> Find some nice dirt roads and use the 4x4 a bit, wait for some rain and
> play in the mud there and gradually get the feel for things; maybe find
> some trails and wander a bit.. get a feel for your truck both in and out
> of 4WD then start pushing your comfort zone a bit. Please have a tow
> strap/winch/etc on hand though; as you get more adventurous you'll add
> more and more 'recovery' tools to get yourself out of bad situations.
> You WILL still get stuck though.. get a CB/Ham/Cell-phone for safety.
> Let people knoe where you're going or better yet take a buddy to show
> you the ropes/trails with HIS truck. First-Aid kits are invaluable as
> well.. accidents DO happen, only you can determine what you'll need to
> carry with you; but be prepared for anything you could see happen when
> you leave home. (6 Qts. Oil?.. sure.. hit a puddle and drown the
> engine.. gonna have to do a trail-side change.. tire patch kit? yep..
> etc.. etc.. If you really get into the 4x4 scene you'll have a pretty
> good 'trail box' of things you might need. I'm not trying to scare you;
> just prepare you! Have fun; you'll enjoy your capabilities more and
> more as you use them, just know your limitations and prepare for when
> you exceed them.
>
> A good idea.. secret a $100 somewhere in your truck; when all else fails
> and you and/or your buddies cant get you unstuck the tow will probably
> cost ya that much. (or more)
>
> Tim Turner/Manic Mechanic
> Wilmington NC
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Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:18:27 -0500
From: "Brian Cail"
Subject: FTE Small - Bronco II Armrest

I have a 1990 Bronco II. I bought it with a bad engine as a project. I now
have it complete with the exception of one thing... a missing armrest for
the center console. I have checked out the local junk yards and have
learned that it is a part that breaks on a lot of Bronco II's.
Can anyone help me find an armrest? Or, where are the best selections of
aftermarket consoles.

Thank you for your help.

Brian Cail
Tarboro, NC



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Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 08:13:14 -0800
From: Thom Cheney
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Bronco II Armrest

not sure if it will work, but those ones that Tuffy advertises are
pretty cool. They are all steel & lockable. Some have a secure
mounting spot for a stereo unit. They are a little pricey, but you
could subtract the extra cost of buying a removable face CD or alarm.
- --
Thom Cheney
Early Bronco Entertainment
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Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 10:00:59 PST
From: "Michael Krause"
Subject: FTE Small - My foul starter

Thanks to all who gave me suggestions with my transmission problem, but
I still need an idea on what's wrong with my starter. This is the third
one to go out in about a year, and I'm wondering if there is a problem
other than my starter which is causing my starter to go bad. After I
take a few wacks at it with my lug wrench it starts up just fine, but
that's only the only case. There are no Hi/Lo's out here in CA so I
can't take it back there(I originally bought it at Hi/Lo in TX before I
made the big move out to CA.). Thanks in advance to all those willing
to help.
Mike Krause
sharktooth_76 hotmail.com

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Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:39:20 -0600 (CST)
From: George Rapp
Subject: [none]

> Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:28:55 -0500
> From: "Anthony Rifici"
> Subject: FTE Small - HID & Engine Stalled, Compressor siezed?
>
> Yesterday, I was driving around in the rain and turned on the
> defroster to clear the windshield and the engine stalled. I started
> it back up (defroster still on) and it stalled immediately. Turned
> off the defroster and it was fine. I figure that the AC compressor
> seized. I had just checked and found out that the system was properly
> charged (I had posted in the summer about AC output). AC worked fine
> a few weeks ago, no unusual noises coming from the compressor. I
> haven't had a chance to get under the hood yet as the weather is not
> cooperating and haven't tried the AC since it happened. I am not sure
> if it is a good idea to engage the compressor to see if the problem
> still exists, since I don't want to damage anything further. Should
> it be able to move if I take the belt off and try to turn it by hand
> or are the pressures too great? What could cause this to happen so
> suddenly? Could it be something other than the compressor itself,
> like the clutch? I hope to get under the hood in the next couple of
> days, so anything anybody can think of for me to look at is greatly
> appreciated.
>
> The truck is a 94 Ranger Supercab, 4.0L 5-Speed w/ 50,000 miles. The
> truck was up to operating temperature for at least 30min before I
> tried to use the defroster. Prior to that trip, the truck had not
> been run in over 3 days. It was outside in cold/rainy weather the
> whole time. The AC had not been run in approx.. 3 weeks. The system
> was checked a couple of months ago and found to have proper charge.
> I have had the truck for a year and a half (21,000 miles) and used the
> AC/Defroster frequently thoughout the summer and winter. I cannot
> vouch for the trucks first 29,000 miles.

I don't know if it's the same problem, but I had similar symptoms in my
'92 Explorer. I had noticed strange noises coming out of the front of the
engine compartment, primarily when the A/C was on, for about a week. Then
suddenly the noise got louder, there was a popping sound, and a strong
smell of burnt insulation. Turns out that the compressor clutch had
seized up, but it didn't stall my engine out -- the clutch just blew and
started rotating freely. It looked serious but it wasn't. (~ US$125
repair, if I recall correctly.)

The compressor clutch should rotate freely, and it should show some loose
rubber and/or insulation upon first inspection, if you had the same
problem. The smell may or may not be evident, since this happened so long
ago.

> GO BUCKS, #1 Team in the Nation

Yeah, right. Come to Lincoln some time and prove it!
(uh, some time next year or in 2000, please ... 8^)

George
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George Rapp (Bellevue, NE) Go 'Huskers!!!!
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Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 17:44:15 -0600
From: Mike Fisher
Subject: Re: FTE Small - My foul starter

Mike,

Take a close look at your flywheel. Are the teeth chewed up on it? If so,
that might cause some extra wear on your starter. That doen't just mean worn
teeth on the starter gear, but could be something like straining the
bearings enough to make them wear, and causing the rotor in the starter to
drag on the stator (inside of the starter housing).

Mike Fisher
'97 AWD Mountaineer

Michael Krause wrote:

> Thanks to all who gave me suggestions with my transmission problem, but
> I still need an idea on what's wrong with my starter. This is the third
> one to go out in about a year, and I'm wondering if there is a problem
> other than my starter which is causing my starter to go bad. After I
> take a few wacks at it with my lug wrench it starts up just fine, but
> that's only the only case. There are no Hi/Lo's out here in CA so I
> can't take it back there(I originally bought it at Hi/Lo in TX before I
> made the big move out to CA.). Thanks in advance to all those willing
> to help.
> Mike Krause
> sharktooth_76 hotmail.com
>
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Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 17:47:49 -0600
From: Mike Fisher
Subject: FTE Small - Re:

Yeah, right. How 'bout them Huskers. They have finally gravitated to where
they belong in the polls. How many more games will they lose this year? At
least one, when they get smoked by K-State.

Mike Fisher
'97 Mountaineer



George Rapp wrote:

>
>
> > GO BUCKS, #1 Team in the Nation
>
> Yeah, right. Come to Lincoln some time and prove it!
> (uh, some time next year or in 2000, please ... 8^)
>
> George
> --
> George Rapp (Bellevue, NE) Go 'Huskers!!!!

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Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 18:56:49 -0500
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Bronco II Armrest

Brian Cail wrote:
>
> I have a 1990 Bronco II. I bought it with a bad engine as a project.

You'll like it; I love my '85 B-II! :-)

> I now
> have it complete with the exception of one thing... a missing armrest for
> the center console. I have checked out the local junk yards and have
> learned that it is a part that breaks on a lot of Bronco II's.

Not a lot, but most! Ford should have 'em in stock in several colors
and should be able to order your color if they dont have it in stock.
They're a little scary to change as you'll be putting a lot of force
onto plastic parts, but follow the directions included with the new
'rest and you'll be fine. I've probably changed 25+ of 'em and havent
had any bad results.. (yet). I'm not sure, but the older Explorer unit
may be the same; I think I've done a few of those as well. (They all
blend together over the years; not sure I could tell you what I worked
on yesterday. )

> Can anyone help me find an armrest? Or, where are the best selections of
> aftermarket consoles.
>

If your local dealer doesnt have any solutions I know Cape Fear Ford
down here in Wilmington does and Probably Fairway Ford in Burgaw or
Capitol Ford in Raleigh. I dont know the price of the unit but it must
not be TOO much since the shop I used to work for was pretty pricey and
I still did a bunch of 'em..

> Thank you for your help.
>
> Brian Cail
> Tarboro, NC

If you ever vacation down this way be sure to check out the beach access
at Ft. Fisher; you'll see LOTS of B-II's helping the S-Type Blazers get
UNstuck! (And pretty scenery, sand, fishing, etc..)

Tim Turner/Manic Mechanic
Wilmington NC
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Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 19:24:42 -0500
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - My foul starter

I'm new to the list so I dont know the particulars on your truck, but
I'll give it a stab..

Michael Krause wrote:
>
> I still need an idea on what's wrong with my starter. This is the third
> one to go out in about a year, and I'm wondering if there is a problem
> other than my starter which is causing my starter to go bad. After I
> take a few wacks at it with my lug wrench it starts up just fine,

Make sure your timing is in spec, too high and it'll work your starter
prettty hard; if you've modified your engine with higher compression
it'll eat starters as well. Of course if the truck is hard to start and
you're cranking and cranking that'll heat the starter too, the rule of
thumb is something like 20Seconds on, 2 minutes off (to let the starter
cool). Unlikely, but a poor ground cable connection could give you fits
too.

> There are no Hi/Lo's out here in CA so I
> can't take it back there(I originally bought it at Hi/Lo in TX before I
> made the big move out to CA.).

I'm not familliar with Hi/Lo but I presume they're like
AutoZone/Advance/Pep Boys. I've had a lot of problems with electrics
from the 'mass merchandisers' in the past.. a lifetime warranty is cool,
but taking it out every so often and getting another gets to be a drag
after a while. Try a 'genuine Ford reman' (oxymoron?), NAPA or better
yet find a local rebuilder in your area with a GOOD reputation and ask
their advice.

Tim Turner/Manic Mechanic
Wilmington NC
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Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 20:37:39 EST
From: MadDog15M aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Bronco II Armrest

I ordered a catalog a few weeks ago from the James Duff website and they had a
pretty cool center console. It has something like 4 drink holders locking
storage bin, coin holders, and alot of other fun stuff to play around with.
If you have bucket seats it will work but if not your outta luck. The adress
of the Duff website is at www.jamesduff.com if
you wanna check it out.

Eric Blackwell
88' Ford Bronco II
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Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 20:25:46 -0600
From: Scott Ford
Subject: Re: FTE Small - New Explorer catalog - free

At 08:42 AM 11/4/98 -0500, you wrote:

>Our latest Explorer catalog is now ready for mailing and is free to list

>subscribers. Email me your address along with year of Explorer owned.

>Addresses are confidential.

>Thanks,

>Ron Miller

>Auto Krafters. Inc.


Hi Ron, I am interested in your catalog, I have a '92 Ranger 4X4, which of course isn't technically an Explorer, but it is close enough that the catalog would be useful.

Thanks


Scott Ford

1307 Powell ave

Rolla MO, 65401



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Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 21:53:23 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE Small - Nominate Ford Truck Enthusiasts?

Car Lounge is taking nominations for the #1 automotive site for
Winter 98. Due to the support from list members in the Spring,
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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 01:23:41 -0600
From: Scott Ford
Subject: FTE Small - Sorry bout that (was re:autokrafters new catalog)

At 08:25 PM 11/4/98 -0600, you wrote:

>>>>

At 08:42 AM 11/4/98 -0500, you wrote:

>Our latest Explorer catalog is now ready for mailing and is free to list

>subscribers. Email me your address along with year of Explorer owned.

>Addresses are confidential.

>Thanks,

>Ron Miller

>Auto Krafters. Inc.


Hi Ron, I am interested in your catalog, I have a '92 Ranger 4X4, which
of course isn't technically an Explorer, but it is close enough that the
catalog would be useful.

Thanks


Sorry about sending this to the list, I coulda swore that I
changed the address before I sent it, but obviously I was deluded. Oh
well, you all know where I live now, so I guess I'd better keep myself in
line:)



Scott Ford



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'86 Mustang GT Member

'56 Ford F-100 Alpha Psi chapter

Theta Xi Fraternity

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Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 23:35:45 -0800
From: Richard
Subject: FTE Small - Hot Tapes

David Steelman wrote------------------------------------------------

The tape deck in my 90 Ranger used to bake tapes as well.
(snip)
I know it can't be good for the tapes, but I never had
one burst into flames or anything.
I have a factory CD player in my 98 Ranger, but I haven't noticed if
the
discs get hot.

My Reply-------------------------------------------------------------

I could swear that I noticed this excessive heat, too, in my '92
Aerostar with OEM digital radio/cassette player (the "middle" unit in
Ford's three-model catalog). I can't comment further about the
cassette section because mine only makes constant grinding noise; I
believe that the motor is shot (suggestions welcome!). My former bench
technician could fix this thing in a flash, but we aren't up on car
stereo parts; both of us have been involved only with home and
professional audio (car stereo is an arcane, specialized world).

Excessive heat _will_ damage your tapes. The tape base is made of
polyester, like your Sears FlexSlax. Unlike the pants, however, the
tape is extremely thin, and as you know when you
accidentally stretch it, the tape is not dimensionally-stable. Get the
cassette hot for a long period of time and there may be uneven
stretching, which you may hear as audible "wow" or "sick music." Tape
manufacturers caution against hot storage.

On the flip side, the tape manufacturers also have improved the
durability of their cassettes. This includes heat tolerance. The tape
makers are well aware that people store tapes in their hot glove
compartments. I'd still not feel good about cooking the tape inside the
radio for more than a few minutes.

CDs are made from thicker, more stable plastic. I believe that they may
be able to withstand heat much better than tape can. Some experts
report that CDs will age poorly and become unplayable: I've heard of two
studies that prove this. For a number of reasons, I prefer tapes in a
vehicle and wouldn't bother to install a CD machine in my van. Despite
having very high personal audio standards, I don't think that it is
really possible to hear the CD's higher performance vs. a well-made tape....


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