small-list-digest Thursday, October 29 1998 Volume 02 : Number 302



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In this issue:

FTE Small - Driving Lights in Bumper
FTE Small - tow hooks
RE: FTE Small - Driving Lights in Bumper
FTE Small - NHTSA probes Ford Explorer for fires
FTE Small - HID? Blue Fog/Driving Replacement for 98 Rangers
Re: FTE Small - HID? Blue Fog/Driving Replacement for 98 Rangers
Re: FTE Small - HID? Blue Fog/Driving Replacement for 98 Rangers
Re: FTE Small - tow hooks
Re: FTE Small - tow hooks
Re: FTE Small - HID? Blue Fog/Driving Replacement for 98 Rangers
FTE Small - 98 Ranger Fog Lights
Re: FTE Small - HID? Blue Fog/Driving Replacement for 98 Rangers
FTE Small - Bronco II gas milage
FTE Small - ADMIN: SoCal Pickups
Re: FTE Small - Bronco II gas milage
FTE Small - K&N filter cleaner
Re: FTE Small - Bronco II gas milage
Re: FTE Small - K&N filter cleaner

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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:22:13 -0500
From: "Anthony Rifici"
Subject: FTE Small - Driving Lights in Bumper

Has anybody ever tried to put HID driving lights in the slot in the front
bumper of a '93-'97 Ranger, similar to the placement on a Dodge Ram? If so,
what kind fit and where there any mounting problems? I want to keep the
investment low, so I don't want to replace the front spoiler and I want it
to look clean so just hanging them off the bumper will not work for me.

Thanks,
Tony
'94 Ranger Supercab, 4.0L, 5-Speed
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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 08:55:42 -0800
From: Thom Cheney
Subject: FTE Small - tow hooks

I have a '97 Ranger. It is a 4X4 STX. I recently got a "little" stuck
in the sand at our Early Bronco event. One of my EB friends tried to
yank me out, but unlike my wife's Honda Accord, the Ranger does not come
with tow hooks, front or rear. I mistakenly attached the tow strap to
the bracket that holds the fog lights into that valance thingy (it is
vaguely hook-like & seemed strong enough) & it bent nicely when the
Bronco applied hp. We ended up attaching to the rear and pulled out
with no more damage. I have since bent the bracket back to a similar
location as it was in stock form, but I would like to avoid any future
problems and also be equipped to help anyone else out. Has anyone
successfully added tow hooks to an STX or XLT with the fog light set up?

thanks in advance,
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Early Bronco Entertainment
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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:14:01 -0800
From: cassis
Subject: RE: FTE Small - Driving Lights in Bumper

Hey just a thought here, but is the slot in the bumper there for a reason?
Is it there to add any kind of airflow under the hood?If it is you could
look into trying this:
Get a spoiler off of a STX 4x that has the holes in them for the lights.
The spoiler from Ford is about $110 (at least that's what the one on my 93'
costs). The lights are very expensive from the dealer ($135) but I found an
aftermarket place here in Houston that has them for $80. It is the same
brand of light, Hella, but a heck of allot cheaper than from the dealer.
Anyway just a suggestion, might be worth looking into.

John Cassis
93' STX 4x 3.0/5-speed

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From: Anthony Rifici [SMTP:rifici.1 osu.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 1998 8:22 AM
To: Ford Trucks List (Small)
Subject: FTE Small - Driving Lights in Bumper

Has anybody ever tried to put HID driving lights in the slot in the front
bumper of a '93-'97 Ranger, similar to the placement on a Dodge Ram? If
so,
what kind fit and where there any mounting problems? I want to keep the
investment low, so I don't want to replace the front spoiler and I want it
to look clean so just hanging them off the bumper will not work for me.

Thanks,
Tony
'94 Ranger Supercab, 4.0L, 5-Speed
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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 12:12:14 -0500 (EST)
From: EI - Michael Ioco
Subject: FTE Small - NHTSA probes Ford Explorer for fires

I don't recall anybody ever complaining of this, but in case it has, the
National Highway Traffic Safety Administration is looking into it for you.

*** NHTSA probes Ford Explorer for fires

DETROIT (Reuters) - Federal safety officials said Tuesday they are
investigating nine complaints of fires in the air venting system of
1992-94 Explorers, Ford's top-selling sport utility vehicle.

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration
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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 15:03:56 -0500 (EST)
From: EI - Michael Ioco
Subject: FTE Small - HID? Blue Fog/Driving Replacement for 98 Rangers

I'd really like to have a set of blue lights for my 98 Ranger. Since I have
light covers on, I'd rather get bulbs for my foglights instead. Has anybody
done this, or can you tell me where I can find these lights? Is it just a
matter of replacing the bulb? I'm also hoping that I can get back some of the
night vision that I lost by putting on the light covers.

Mike in Michigan
98 Ranger 4x4 SC ORP
97 F-150 4x4 SC ORP
96 Explorer 4x4 Sport
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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 15:43:11 -0800 (PST)
From: Christian Void
Subject: Re: FTE Small - HID? Blue Fog/Driving Replacement for 98 Rangers

On Wed, 28 Oct 1998, EI - Michael Ioco wrote:

> I'd really like to have a set of blue lights for my 98 Ranger. Since I have
> light covers on, I'd rather get bulbs for my foglights instead. Has anybody
> done this, or can you tell me where I can find these lights? Is it just a
> matter of replacing the bulb? I'm also hoping that I can get back some of the
> night vision that I lost by putting on the light covers.

Don't know about Michigan, but here in California it is a felony to have
red or blue lights projecting forward or backwards from any
non-emergency, non-law enforcement vehicle. Just an FYI, as I don't know
why you want colored lights on your truck... I think it would be cool
myself. :)

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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 15:45:51 -0800 (PST)
From: Christian Void
Subject: Re: FTE Small - HID? Blue Fog/Driving Replacement for 98 Rangers

Just to clarify that a bit, no blue lights in back, no blue or red lights
out the front... red lights on the rear are another story. :)

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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 16:35:10 -0500
From: "Bryce Beyler"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - tow hooks

Take a look at my web page,,,I've had hooks on mine for about 6 months now
and used then quite a bit one trip with no problems...

Good Luck, Bryce

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.geocities.com/baja/2995


- -----Original Message-----
From: Thom Cheney
To: small-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Wednesday, October 28, 1998 11:46 AM
Subject: FTE Small - tow hooks


>I have a '97 Ranger. It is a 4X4 STX. I recently got a "little" stuck
>in the sand at our Early Bronco event. One of my EB friends tried to
>yank me out, but unlike my wife's Honda Accord, the Ranger does not come
>with tow hooks, front or rear. I mistakenly attached the tow strap to
>the bracket that holds the fog lights into that valance thingy (it is
>vaguely hook-like & seemed strong enough) & it bent nicely when the
>Bronco applied hp. We ended up attaching to the rear and pulled out
>with no more damage. I have since bent the bracket back to a similar
>location as it was in stock form, but I would like to avoid any future
>problems and also be equipped to help anyone else out. Has anyone
>successfully added tow hooks to an STX or XLT with the fog light set up?
>
>thanks in advance,
>--
>Thom Cheney
>Early Bronco Entertainment
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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 16:27:21 -0800
From: Thom Cheney
Subject: Re: FTE Small - tow hooks

Bryce Beyler wrote:
>
> Take a look at my web page,,,I've had hooks on mine for about 6 months now
> and used then quite a bit one trip with no problems...
>
> Good Luck, Bryce


Great page Bryce. Thanks for the info & clear photos on your page. I
had been there before but had not paid attention to that particular
upgrade.

thanks again...
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Early Bronco Entertainment
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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 19:21:43 -0500
From: "Anthony Rifici"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - HID? Blue Fog/Driving Replacement for 98 Rangers

>I'd really like to have a set of blue lights for my 98 Ranger.

I assume you mean High Intensity Discharge (HID) lighting which looks
blue and is standard headlight equipment on more expensive cars.

>Since I have
>light covers on, I'd rather get bulbs for my foglights instead. Is it just
a
>matter of replacing the bulb?

NO, It is not just a bulb, it is a whole lighting system. It would be
the same thing as trying to replace an incandescent light in your house with
a Mercury or Metal-Halide (HID) type found in a parking lot. It requires a
higher voltage to operate, so there is a transformer somewhere in the
system. I am not sure with automotive systems, but commercial/residential
HID lighting requires a ballast because starting the lamps is not as simple
as flipping a switch.

You will have to replace the driving lights on your truck if you want
HID lighting. The manufacturers probably have web pages that explain the
systems better than I can.

Good Luck,
Tony
'94 Ranger Supercab, 4.0L, 5-Speed

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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 16:42:24 -0800
From: "Alan Wilson"
Subject: FTE Small - 98 Ranger Fog Lights

I have seen some Rangers with Fog Lights it looked like built into the
front spoiler. I guess Ford sells them as part of the Off Road Package
or something. My 98 Ranger doesn't have any. Is there anyway I can
have some installed that looks as nice as those.

I have been thinking of where I could install them but am not quite sure
if I have to buy a new spoiler or something. Maybe someone out there
has some ideas.

Thanks.

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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 18:54:05 -0600
From: Mike Fisher
Subject: Re: FTE Small - HID? Blue Fog/Driving Replacement for 98 Rangers

Yes, and HID lighting, at least the kind PIAA makes, costs about $2000. The cost
of the fascia for your truck would be negligible compared to the lights.

If you want something that imitates the look of those lights, you can buy bulbs
that are regular halogen that have a coating to reduce the yellow component of
regular lights to make them appear similar to HIDs.

Mike Fisher
97 AWD Mountaineer

Anthony Rifici wrote:

> >I'd really like to have a set of blue lights for my 98 Ranger.
>
> I assume you mean High Intensity Discharge (HID) lighting which looks
> blue and is standard headlight equipment on more expensive cars.
>
> >Since I have
> >light covers on, I'd rather get bulbs for my foglights instead. Is it just
> a
> >matter of replacing the bulb?
>
> NO, It is not just a bulb, it is a whole lighting system. It would be
> the same thing as trying to replace an incandescent light in your house with
> a Mercury or Metal-Halide (HID) type found in a parking lot. It requires a
> higher voltage to operate, so there is a transformer somewhere in the
> system. I am not sure with automotive systems, but commercial/residential
> HID lighting requires a ballast because starting the lamps is not as simple
> as flipping a switch.
>
> You will have to replace the driving lights on your truck if you want
> HID lighting. The manufacturers probably have web pages that explain the
> systems better than I can.
>
> Good Luck,
> Tony
> '94 Ranger Supercab, 4.0L, 5-Speed
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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 20:48:10 EST
From: CBadgerJr aol.com
Subject: FTE Small - Bronco II gas milage

I have an 84 Bronco II 4-wheeler with the 2.8 liter V-6 and automatic
transmission that my wife purchased for me aobut a year ago as a project
vehicle. Presently it gets 13 miles per gallon on the highway. I feel it
should get more like 18-20 mpg. What are others getting?

Chuck
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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 21:49:01 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE Small - ADMIN: SoCal Pickups

Dear Ford Truck Enthusiasts list members:

We have a new advertiser on our web site. Since the beginning,
our practice with web site advertisers has been to make a brief
announcement for 2 days (this is day 1 of 2). Please show your
appreciation to SoCal Pick-Ups for helping to support the web
site and the lists by checking them out (this is a temporary page
until they have their site up):

http://www.ford-trucks.com/socal.html

"SoCal Pick-Ups started over 25 years ago as the first restoration
parts business to focus soley on the 53-56 F-100's. Now, SoCal
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SoCal has made changes in all areas of their operation in order
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We would like to you to let them know you heard about them via
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Now returning you to our regularly scheduled program...

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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 21:51:26 EST
From: MadDog15M aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Bronco II gas milage

I have an 88' Bronco II 2.9 V8 and it gets about 15-16 mpg. I have heard it
is supposed to run about 18-20 mpg. Anyway I just thought you might wan to
know.


Eric
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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 08:30:46 -0800
From: Richard Salitra
Subject: FTE Small - K&N filter cleaner

I just got the K&N filter cleaner kit & have a quick question. how long
does it take for the filter to dry after you wash it before you can
re-oil and re-install it? may sound like a silly question, but I just
don't want to take my air filter off and then not be able to put it back
for an extended period of time without knowing it in advance. thanks.

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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 20:46:32 PST
From: "William Bracey"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Bronco II gas milage

>I have an 88' Bronco II 2.9 V8 and it gets about 15-16 mpg. I have
heard it
>is supposed to run about 18-20 mpg. Anyway I just thought you might
wan to
>know.

I have a 87 BII 4X4 with a 2.9L. I get between 20-23 daily driving.

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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 23:51:02 EST
From: Ding060297 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Small - K&N filter cleaner

to richard salitra : your air filter drying depends on how much time you
got i usally take mine out bang it out first and then soak it with the cleaner
wait ten minutes and then hose it out from the inside out that way any dirt....


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