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In this issue:

FTE Small - sudden pinging
Re: FTE Small - explorer ignition switch
Re: FTE Small - sudden pinging
FTE Small - RE: Hyperchip results..96 explorer
Re: FTE Small - sudden pinging
FTE Small - żżżIs cummins made by Ford???
Re: FTE Small - 94 Ranger bucking!
Re: FTE Small - RE: Hyperchip results..96 explorer
Re: FTE Small - żżżIs cummins made by Ford???
FTE Small - Garage sale
[none]
Re: FTE Small - RE: Hyperchip results..96 explorer
Re: FTE Small - explorer ignition switch

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Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 09:26:44 -0500
From: "John L. Winkler"
Subject: FTE Small - sudden pinging

Yesterday afternoon, after 85000+ miles of ping-free motoring
(up and down hills, towing, etc.), with no load (other than a
freeway onramp incline) and great air (clear and about 65 degrees),
my Explorer started making a noise that sounded like _serious_
knocking. It did it again later yesterday afternoon, but this
morning, on a steeper hill, it did not ping or knock at all
under WOT.

Did the computer freak out yesterday, or is it compensating
already? Did I possibly get some bad gas? I've been fairly
religious about changing the oil (OK, sometimes 4k miles instead
of 3), but I haven't replaced the plugs and wires.

Any responses are greatly appreciated.

JLW
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Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:39:20 -0400
From: "Anthony Rifici"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - explorer ignition switch

>My 91 Explorer ignition switch is going south. ( mechanically, it won't
>always turn until you apply extreme pressure

Just a thought, some Ford vehicles want you to turn the steering wheel
CCW while turning the ignition key. We had an '84 Grand Marquis that one
day wouldn't allow the ignition key to turn. We started tearing the dash
and column apart to try to find the problem. Meanwhile my mother was
reading the owners manual, we thought to annoy the hell out of us, but she
found a little blurb that said you have to turn the steering wheel while
starting the car. While we were getting more tools, she tried it and
started the car. I think the manual said it was a security feature, but it
seems like pretty lame one so I am not sure. Maybe it is just the way the
steering wheel locks that causes it. I think they still do this, although
to a lesser degree. Sometimes, depending on the position of the steering
wheel, my '94 Ranger will require a little extra effort to turn the key and
will slightly rotate the steering wheel when the key is turned. Maybe
something is screwed up in the way the steering wheel locks and not the lock
cylinder itself.
Another thought is the key itself. My old S10 started requiring high
effort to turn the key and sometimes it wouldn't turn at all. Turned out to
be that the lock cylinder was eating keys. It had worn just enough of the
key away to keep it from turning and not enough away that it was obvious.
After that, I needed a new ignition key cut every year.

Just some food for thought. Good Luck

Tony
'94 Ranger Supercab, 4.0L, 5-speed

************************GO BUCKS, 4-0 and still #1 in the nation

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Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:32:21 -0700
From: "Craig Rubin"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - sudden pinging

John,

Are you sure that it was related to gas pinging and not a mechanical
problem?

Sincerely,

Craig Rubin

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From: John L. Winkler
To: small-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Thursday, October 08, 1998 7:28 AM
Subject: FTE Small - sudden pinging


>Yesterday afternoon, after 85000+ miles of ping-free motoring
>(up and down hills, towing, etc.), with no load (other than a
>freeway onramp incline) and great air (clear and about 65 degrees),
>my Explorer started making a noise that sounded like _serious_
>knocking. It did it again later yesterday afternoon, but this
>morning, on a steeper hill, it did not ping or knock at all
>under WOT.
>
>Did the computer freak out yesterday, or is it compensating
>already? Did I possibly get some bad gas? I've been fairly
>religious about changing the oil (OK, sometimes 4k miles instead
>of 3), but I haven't replaced the plugs and wires.
>
>Any responses are greatly appreciated.
>
>JLW
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Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:33:22 -0700
From: "Pete Lawless"
Subject: FTE Small - RE: Hyperchip results..96 explorer

>>>I would be leery about any chips from Hyperchip or Jet. Most just
>>>advance the timing or modify the shifts points to give a perceived hp
>>>increase.
>>>Rob

>>A good example of bad information.
>>Later.... Pete

>A good example of bad information from who? Me?? Hypertech??
>I'm confused, so I don't know whether to be mad or agree.

>Rob

This is old news but I haven't checked the Ford mail for a few days and
figure I owe Mr. Benguerel a reply.

So since you asked: I don't have the rest of your message to quote but from
what I remember of it it appeared to me that you may not have any personal,
first-hand experience with performance chips or modules. If that assessment
was incorrect I apologize. However, I do... and took ever-so-slight offense
to your statement. I'm not sure why you would advise some one to "be leery
about any chips from Hyperchip or Jet."? On what basis? Have you been
unsatisfied with the performance of either of these products on your
vehicle? Or is it that they "just advance the timing or modify the shifts
points" (amongst other adjustments)? Of course this is what chips do, they
surely don't magicaly create horsepower out of thin air.
"to give a perceived hosepower increase." How do you do that? Hmmm, I must
be imagining the extra mile per gallon I'm getting too.

So my take on your message was that all of us that have purchased and
installed a chip or module on our vehicles are suckers living in a fantasy.
I was very impressed and pleased with the performance that the JET module
added to my tired 1988 Ranger 2.9ltr. And it has worked well with the other
mods I've done since. The truck runs strong, better then when new and the
chip is part of the whole package.
Every company that sells Horsepower (or just about any product for that
matter) has a tendancy to embellish the truth. So what's new? All buyers
beware.
Hey, the average Joe could tweek the old engines with little more than a
screwdriver... not any more. JET, Hypertech, Superchip have created a nice
little plug-in performance mod for the modern vehicle that basically does
what it says, is easy to install (or remove), and saves you all that time
tweeking your powerplant yourself (or paying some $75/hour tech to screw
it up for you (sorry techs... I didn't really mean that))..... all for
about $250.
Was it worth it.... Yes.
Will I buy another one... you bet.



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Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 13:46:08 -0400
From: Jay White
Subject: Re: FTE Small - sudden pinging

I have the same problem on my 95 Explorer with 89000. Recently, hot (95
degrees and dry) or cold (52 and rain) I get a ping at 2800 to 3200 rpm
when towing. I tried the air filter (K&N), injector cleaner and spark
plugs (Original) with no help. I think it may be the Fuel filter, O2
senser, EGR or fuel pressure. I am slowly doing additional
diagnostics. I will try a computer reset but for now I upgraded to 89
octane when towing.

Jay White

John L. Winkler wrote:

> Yesterday afternoon, after 85000+ miles of ping-free motoring
> (up and down hills, towing, etc.), with no load (other than a
> freeway onramp incline) and great air (clear and about 65 degrees),
> my Explorer started making a noise that sounded like _serious_
> knocking. It did it again later yesterday afternoon, but this
> morning, on a steeper hill, it did not ping or knock at all
> under WOT.
>
> Did the computer freak out yesterday, or is it compensating
> already? Did I possibly get some bad gas? I've been fairly
> religious about changing the oil (OK, sometimes 4k miles instead
> of 3), but I haven't replaced the plugs and wires.
>
> Any responses are greatly appreciated.
>
> JLW
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Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 14:39:34 PDT
From: "Joey Ramsey"
Subject: FTE Small - żżżIs cummins made by Ford???

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Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 18:20:57 -0400
From: "Eric"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - 94 Ranger bucking!

had a similar prob w/ my '94 Splash .... replaced O2 sensors and prob went
away .... seemed to only 'buck/studder' at around 700 to 1200 rpms.

Eric Smith - ljs mail.csonline.net


- -----Original Message-----
From: chris
To: small-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Tuesday, October 06, 1998 10:25 AM
Subject: FTE Small - 94 Ranger bucking!


>My 94 Ranger 4x4 w/4.0 and 5sp manual w/70,000miles seems to buck or
>studder during acceleration in 2nd or 3rd or 4th gear. This morning I
>looked at the Tach and did not seem any movement durning this
>bucking/studdering. I'm also having some difficulty getting the tranny
>into 2nd if I fast accelerate out of 1st.
>Ideas?
>Chris
>chris peake.com
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Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 18:59:33 +0000
From: Garr&Pam
Subject: Re: FTE Small - RE: Hyperchip results..96 explorer

Pete Lawless wrote:
>
> >>>I would be leery about any chips from Hyperchip or Jet. Most just
> >>>advance the timing or modify the shifts points to give a perceived hp
> >>>increase.
> >>>Rob
>
> >>A good example of bad information.
> >>Later.... Pete
>
> >A good example of bad information from who? Me?? Hypertech??
> >I'm confused, so I don't know whether to be mad or agree.
>
> >Rob
>
> This is old news but I haven't checked the Ford mail for a few days and
> figure I owe Mr. Benguerel a reply.
>
> So since you asked: I don't have the rest of your message to quote but from
> what I remember of it it appeared to me that you may not have any personal,
> first-hand experience with performance chips or modules. If that assessment
> was incorrect I apologize. However, I do... and took ever-so-slight offense
> to your statement. I'm not sure why you would advise some one to "be leery
> about any chips from Hyperchip or Jet."? On what basis? Have you been
> unsatisfied with the performance of either of these products on your
> vehicle? Or is it that they "just advance the timing or modify the shifts
> points" (amongst other adjustments)? Of course this is what chips do, they
> surely don't magicaly create horsepower out of thin air.
> "to give a perceived hosepower increase." How do you do that? Hmmm, I must
> be imagining the extra mile per gallon I'm getting too.
>
> So my take on your message was that all of us that have purchased and
> installed a chip or module on our vehicles are suckers living in a fantasy.
> I was very impressed and pleased with the performance that the JET module
> added to my tired 1988 Ranger 2.9ltr. And it has worked well with the other
> mods I've done since. The truck runs strong, better then when new and the
> chip is part of the whole package.
> Every company that sells Horsepower (or just about any product for that
> matter) has a tendancy to embellish the truth. So what's new? All buyers
> beware.
> Hey, the average Joe could tweek the old engines with little more than a
> screwdriver... not any more. JET, Hypertech, Superchip have created a nice
> little plug-in performance mod for the modern vehicle that basically does
> what it says, is easy to install (or remove), and saves you all that time
> tweeking your powerplant yourself (or paying some $75/hour tech to screw
> it up for you (sorry techs... I didn't really mean that))..... all for
> about $250.
> Was it worth it.... Yes.
> Will I buy another one... you bet.

I have to add my 2 cents worth, I think chips that are done ona dyno can
do what they say they can do, but A chip just ordered by picking up the
phone and reading a computer code is a CROCK! Sure it works for
some(even though I bet it could be done better on a dyno) and not for
others, but when you have it tested on dyno and hooked up to the
computer at the same time the results are tremendously better. Not all
vechicles are created equal, yes the can have the same set up but not be
equal...thats why factories have tolerance levels...I personally will
not buy a chip without it being done on a dyno!
Sorry if I offended anyone
Its just my opinion(just like a**holes every has one!)
Chris
94 Lightning #381
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Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 16:48:45 -0700 (PDT)
From: Bill Ciocco
Subject: Re: FTE Small - żżżIs cummins made by Ford???

No. Cummins is made by Cummins. Ford uses some Cummins engines in
their trucks.




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Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 08:59:35 -0400
From: luke wells
Subject: FTE Small - Garage sale

cleaning out the garage i found some ranger stuff i need to get rid of,
96 ford ranger smoke head and taillight covers(rear not
trailblazers,solid fit 93 to 97), rear kyb shocks only driven on 400
miles(got them for my lowered splash but switched to belltech instead)
$40, bed rails for regular bed rangers black aluminum should fit any
regular bed ranger post any prices on digest or send personally to
sk2 earthlink.net

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Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 18:26:30 PDT
From: "William Bracey"
Subject: [none]

Hello All:

I have a 87 Bronco II with the 2.9L V6. When the truck is cold it
starts up and does not run. I re-start the truck and it runs great.
Has anyone ever experienced this problem? Any solutions?

Thanks,

Nelson
wnbracey bigfoot.com

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Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 23:16:50 EDT
From: Ding060297 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Small - RE: Hyperchip results..96 explorer

To pete lawless..........Well said i must say to your little letter to mr.
benguerel i am the one who basically started this whole chip thing i'm the one
with the 96 explorer and i have noticed improvements and i can't say yet on
gas mileage because i can't seem too keep my foot off the floor boards if you
know what i mean..But adding it along with my other mods' of a 160 degree
thermostat and a k&n air filter with my own lil made air system with no air
box.......it runs great i can't complain........
ding
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Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 23:21:25 EDT
From: Ding060297 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Small - explorer ignition switch

To greg wagner check with your local ford dealer about your ignition switch....


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