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In this issue:

Re: FTE Small - Good Shocks for an 87 Bronco II
FTE Small - RE: Hyperchip results..96 explorer
Re: FTE Small - Help! Driver Power Window Problem
Re: FTE Small - Door Panel
Re: FTE Small - RE: Hyperchip results..96 explorer
FTE Small - Which chip to buy??
Re: FTE Small - hyperchip results..96 explorer
FTE Small - Trailer Hitch
Re: FTE Small - Which chip to buy??
Re: FTE Small - RE: Hyperchip results..96 explorer
Re: FTE Small - RE: Hyperchip results..96 explorer
Fwd: FTE Small - hyperchip results..96 explorer
Re: FTE Small - Door Panel
FTE Small - Model TT dump truck
FTE Small - ADMIN: Your story in a Ford truck book
FTE Small - A few automatic tranny questions
Re: FTE Small - hyperchip results..96 explorer

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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 06:01:26 -0700 (PDT)
From: Bill Ciocco
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Good Shocks for an 87 Bronco II

I can't help you with the shocks, I feel like my suspension is a
little too stiff and all I am using is some Big A sensortrack
knock-offs.
As far as the heater core goes, it is fairly easy. The hoses are the
toughest part, as you need to remove them from under the vehicle.
Otherwise, there is a cover about midway under the dash. Remove it and
the heater core is right there. I don't remember if the core stays in
the cover or is just behind the cover. Either way, the job should only
take an hour or so.



- ---William Bracey wrote:
>
> I recently purchased a 87 Bronco II. I like it a great deal. I only
> have to problems. I would like to replace the shocks on this truck.
I
> would like a much stiffer ride. Any Suggestions? I would also like
to
> know how much trouble is it to replace the heater core. I can smell
an
> anti-freese smell comming from the heater vents.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Nelson
> 87 Bronco II
>
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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 10:27:40 -0400
From: "Maurer, Robert M."
Subject: FTE Small - RE: Hyperchip results..96 explorer

Ding wrote:
>I own a 1996 ford explorer xlt with the 5.0 v8 and all wheel drive..I
recently purchased a hyperchip module and took out my computer and installed
it...It was a very easy installation and it's suppost to increase horsepower
by 18 to 20 at the rear wheel...The only problem I had was under full
throttle I was experiencing severe pinging and after talking to a technical
expert they told me I needed a 160* degree thermostat...I installed this
thermostat and it worked, now the truck runs a lot cooler but the horsepower
difference is there and it also tows my boat with a lot more
punch.......This all ran me about $ 250.00 not to bad for a rough 20 hp and
40lbs of torque......Although the company says they have written documents
that say none of these modification will void any warranties I feel the
truck was designed to run at 195 and might have some downfalls to this new
temp any suggestions or info on this subject would be
appreciated......thanks ding>

I hope you live in a warm climate. Because come Winter time you're not
going to have much heat. I have never run anything lower than 180* t-stat.
160* means your t-stat will be open all of the time. I don't understand how
the pinging is related to the t-stat.

I would be leery about any chips from Hyperchip or Jet. Most just advance
the timing or modify the shifts points to give a perceived hp increase.

Rob

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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 09:58:25 -0500
From: "Bob Johnson"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Help! Driver Power Window Problem

Thomas:

I just made this repair on my '86 Ranger, after driving a couple of weeks
without being able to use the driver side window - I feel your pain.

I purchased the "gear kit" at Auto Zone - they're probably available from
most parts stores. Cost me about $25, I think. The kit includes a new
nylon/metal gear assembly, a new o-ring, gear box cover and a lubricant that
looks a lot like CV grease. I drilled out the 4 rivets that mount the
motor/regulator assembly to the door - there was enough friction to keep the
window from sliding down, but I would support it just in case. Remove 3
machine screws and the motor/gearbox assemble can be removed from the door,
leaving the regulator in place.

Disassemble the gearbox - one screw on mine. Remove the gear, clean out the
old lubricant, replace the o-ring, smear some of the new lube in the case,
insert the gear assembly, more grease, replace the gearbox cover. Replace in
the door. Used 4 nuts/bolts where I drilled out the rivets. NOTE: you have
to insert the bolts from the inside to be able to tighten, and I was worried
about internal clearance. And you MUST insert the lowest bolt BEFORE
re-installing the motor/gearbox - you can't get to the hole once the
regulator is reattached - the big "gear" is in the way. The 1/2" bolts were
long enough so that after making the nut "finger" tight, I could grab the
exposed threads with a vice-grip and tighten them down. I would use locktite
for peace of mind. The hardest part of the whole job was replacing the %^&#
door panel.

BTW, I could and did use the window before the repair by "assisting" the
movement. Sometimes I had to grab the window from both sides while pushing
the window lift switch with my toe (the neighbors enjoyed the show), but I
could always get the window open or closed if necessary (but not always
while moving).

Also, I thought like you did that I had a stripped gear or a worm gear loose
on the shaft. I had looked in the door and could see no damage to the
regulator or the nylon gear. Turns out that there is a metal gear that rides
inside that nylon gear, and the two are "linked" by 3 rubber shock
absorbers. In my case, those rubber inserts disintegrated. All the gears
were fine - the motor turned the worm, which turned the metal gear - but it
couldn't transfer the torque to the nylon gear.

Hope this helps. Good luck.

Bob

Thomas Moore wrote:

>I have a 87 Bronco II that has power windows and recently the drivers
window
>is "slipping" when raising it. I took the panel off to inspect, and from
>what I can tell the power window motor's gear is stripped (since the large
>window gear looks fine, but has metal shavings on it)...

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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 10:48:42 -0500
From: "Bob Johnson"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Door Panel

Steve:

I don't know about the late model Explorers, but on my Ranger removing the
panel involves carefully prying those little plastic fasteners out of the
door using a flat-bladed tool (putty knife, big screw driver, etc.) the idea
is to pull the fastener out of the door without (a) damaging it, or (b)
tearing it out of the door panel. It's a pain, but easy.

Sounds stupid, but would a suction cup (or a couple of them) work ...

Good luck.

Bob

Steven Husaim wrote:

>Hi All
> Does anyone know how to remove the interior of the door so that you
can pop a crease out of the door panel easily ? >Some ! #$ !!# used my
truck as a leaning post in the parking-lot and pushed the door panel in
right where a crease is. I >know it will be easy to pop out because I can
'move' the dent in the panel, its just that I can't pop it out from the
out->side...

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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 08:55:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: Bill Ciocco
Subject: Re: FTE Small - RE: Hyperchip results..96 explorer

Pinging is related to the stat because the hotter the engine is
running, the easier it is for the fuel to ignite. To simplify it,
pinging is fuel that is igniting too soon before the piston reaching
top dead center and it is attempting to push the piston back down.
By running a cooler thermostat you lower your combustion chamber
temperature and make the fuel more difficult to ignite, thereby making
it take longer to ignite.
At least that is the way I understand it. If I'm wrong please let me
know.


- ---"Maurer, Robert M." wrote:
>
> Ding wrote:
> >I own a 1996 ford explorer xlt with the 5.0 v8 and all wheel drive..I
> recently purchased a hyperchip module and took out my computer and
installed
> it...It was a very easy installation and it's suppost to increase
horsepower
> by 18 to 20 at the rear wheel...The only problem I had was under full
> throttle I was experiencing severe pinging and after talking to a
technical
> expert they told me I needed a 160* degree thermostat...I installed
this
> thermostat and it worked, now the truck runs a lot cooler but the
horsepower
> difference is there and it also tows my boat with a lot more
> punch.......This all ran me about $ 250.00 not to bad for a rough 20
hp and
> 40lbs of torque......Although the company says they have written
documents
> that say none of these modification will void any warranties I feel
the
> truck was designed to run at 195 and might have some downfalls to
this new
> temp any suggestions or info on this subject would be
> appreciated......thanks ding>
>
> I hope you live in a warm climate. Because come Winter time you're
not
> going to have much heat. I have never run anything lower than 180*
t-stat.
> 160* means your t-stat will be open all of the time. I don't
understand how
> the pinging is related to the t-stat.
>
> I would be leery about any chips from Hyperchip or Jet. Most just
advance
> the timing or modify the shifts points to give a perceived hp
increase.
>
> Rob
>
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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 09:21:08 PDT
From: "Michael Krause"
Subject: FTE Small - Which chip to buy??

I'm looking into buying an aftermarket chip for my '91 Explorer XLT with
the 4.0L engine. I want something that I can do myself and doesn't
require much work. I also have heard that with some chips, you need to
run premium octane fuel after you install a chip, but living in CA the
premium gas runs a bit high so I may not want one which requires this
type of gas. I'd appreciate anyone's experience with computer chips,
which chips to buy and any helpful information. You can e-mail me
directly at sharktooth_76 hotmail.com so you won't clutter the lists.
Thanks so much.
Michael Krause


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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 12:24:20 -0500 (CDT)
From: Sandman
Subject: Re: FTE Small - hyperchip results..96 explorer

On Tue, 29 Sep 1998 Ding060297 aol.com wrote:

> I own a 1996 ford explorer xlt with the 5.0 v8 and all wheel drive..I
> recently purchased a hyperchip module and took out my computer and installed
> it...It was a very easy installation and it's suppost to increase horsepower
> by 18 to 20 at the rear wheel...The only problem i had was under full throttle
> i was experiencing severe pinging and after talking to a technical expert they
> told me i needed a 160* degree thermostat...I installed this thermostat and it
> worked, now the truck runs a lot cooler but the horsepower difference is there
> and it also tows my boat with a lot more punch.......This all ran me about $
> 250.00 not to bad for a rough 20 hp and 40lbs of torque......Although the
> company says they have written documents that say none of these modification
> will void any warranties i feel the truck was designed to run at 195 and might
> have some downfalls to this new temp any suggestions or info on this subject
> would be appreciated......thanks ding
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I asked a question about putting a 165 degree therostat in my truck a
while back on the ford ranger message board. What they said there might
be a problem with it, since it comes on at lower temperatures. Whey said
it cuts on too early for the cylinders to fully expand in the engine.
When you think abou tit this sounds very logical and they recomended going
with a 180 degree therostat.


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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 12:54:42 -0700
From: cassis
Subject: FTE Small - Trailer Hitch

Just a little piece of advice when you do get your hitch installed. No
matter what the hitch says it is supposed to fit or what the people who
install it say check your spare tire once it is installed. Make sure it can
be removed. I recently had U-Haul install a class III on my 4x Ranger. They
assured me I could still access my spare tire. In short, I ended up on the
side of an interstate with no street lights. My hitch was in the way of the
latching mechanism on my spare tire. I had to balance a flashlight with my
teeth while I bent (using a tire iron as a hammer & beating the hell out of
the latch) the latch straight to get the spare tire out. Believe me when I
say this was no joy at 2:00am in the rain. I went back to the U-Haul and
they just made a few adjustments on my spare tire carrier to get it to work
right. Would have been nice if they had done this in the first place
though. Anyway sorry for rambling on, but I hope this saves someone from
going through what I did.

John Cassis
93' STX 4x 3.0/5-speed

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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 14:13:45 -0700
From: "Alan Wilson"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Which chip to buy??

At 09:21 AM 9/30/98 PDT, you wrote:
>I'm looking into buying an aftermarket chip for my '91 Explorer XLT with
>the 4.0L engine.
- ----

Whatever happened to that transmission in your Exlplorer after that long
towing trip from Texas? Is everything ok with it?

Alan Wilson


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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 18:31:14 EDT
From: MindEfx aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Small - RE: Hyperchip results..96 explorer

In a message dated 9/30/98 10:32:16 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
maurerrm westinghouse.com writes:


the timing or modify the shifts points to give a perceived hp increase. >>


Advancing the timing on an engine thats been 'detuned' to run on 87 octane
fuel does normally increase HP, but after that you have to normally run 93
octane fuel or it will ping. To my knowledge every Ford (except maybe the
Mustang GT or SVT cars) is tuned to run with 87 octane from the factory. I
know my cousin advanced the timing on his Lightning 3 degrees i think and
picked up a couple hundreths in the 1/4 mile. A couple hundredths isnt much,
but its really good when you concider how much it cost... $0 because the
lightning has a distributor so you dont need a chip to change the timing.
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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:13:59 EDT
From: Ding060297 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Small - RE: Hyperchip results..96 explorer

TO ROB::
BY CHANGING THE CHIP WHICH IN RETURN CHANGES THE SHIFT POINTS AND THE TIMING
IT ALSO REQUIRES YOU CHANGE THE TEMPERTURE THAT THE TRUCK RUNS AT ...I DIDN'T
BELIEVE THIS EITHER UNTIL I CHANGED IT AND IT DID THE TRICK........i'VE ALSO
TALKED TO OTHER PEOPLE WHO HAVE THIS SETUP AND THEY TOLD ME THE SAME AND THEY
ALSO HAVE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM...AS FOR NO HEAT SOME HAVE A LITTLE OTHERS HAVE
NONE I'LL HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THE WINTER GETS HERE TO SEE IF I HAVE
ANY......DING
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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:22:26 EDT
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Subject: Fwd: FTE Small - hyperchip results..96 explorer

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Sandmanx ghg.net....I want to run a 180 degree thermostat but i'm not sure if
it'll ping ...The oem 195 makes it ping like crazy ...so i installed a 160 and
the truck seems to run fine with a lot more pep out of her.......so i don't
know i' guess i'll try it in the mid of winter when i have lil or no
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On Tue, 29 Sep 1998 Ding060297 aol.com wrote:

> I own a 1996 ford explorer xlt with the 5.0 v8 and all wheel drive..I
> recently purchased a hyperchip module and took out my computer and installed
> it...It was a very easy installation and it's suppost to increase horsepower
> by 18 to 20 at the rear wheel...The only problem i had was under full
throttle
> i was experiencing severe pinging and after talking to a technical expert
they
> told me i needed a 160* degree thermostat...I installed this thermostat and
it
> worked, now the truck runs a lot cooler but the horsepower difference is
there
> and it also tows my boat with a lot more punch.......This all ran me about $
> 250.00 not to bad for a rough 20 hp and 40lbs of torque......Although the
> company says they have written documents that say none of these modification
> will void any warranties i feel the truck was designed to run at 195 and
might
> have some downfalls to this new temp any suggestions or info on this subject
> would be appreciated......thanks ding
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>

I asked a question about putting a 165 degree therostat in my truck a
while back on the ford ranger message board. What they said there might
be a problem with it, since it comes on at lower temperatures. Whey said
it cuts on too early for the cylinders to fully expand in the engine.
When you think abou tit this sounds very logical and they recomended going
with a 180 degree therostat.


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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 18:58:29 -0700
From: "Steven Husaim"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Door Panel

Bob,

Thanks for your help...But I found a better solution...As I was examining the door, I noticed that the metal was not creased, just kinda bowed in...So, I decided to see if it would pop back out if I slammed the door hard..And it worked ! So now you can't even tell that the little incident occured...

Thanks Again,
Steve
1992 Ranger "Rubber-Maid Edition"


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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:57:01 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE Small - Model TT dump truck

If anyone is interested, there is a Model TT dump truck
for sale for $4100 obo on the web site. Its on the main
classifieds page, scroll to the bottom and you'll see
a picture of it. The owner is about to retire to Florida
and asked me to announce it to the group. Given the fact
that they need to get rid of it, the price is probably
pretty flexible.

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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 22:41:30 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE Small - ADMIN: Your story in a Ford truck book

Hi everyone, I receive the following email from someone. I thought
it would be a good idea to pass it on to the lists. Contact Judy
about this (address below), not me.

Ken Payne
CoAdmin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts

>>From jcscott ican.net
>Reply-To:
>From: "judy scott"
>To:
>Subject: Tough Tales
>X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
>
>Hi Webmaster,
>
>You and your members can see their name in print and
>get a Free copy of Tough Tales (working title). Here's
>how. I have a contract to publish a book comprised of
>a brief history of the F-series trucks, a glance at their
>ads, and STORIES BY OWNERS OF F-SERIES TRUCKS.
>The latter is where you and your members can
>contribute. All owners whose stories are published will
>see their name in print and receive a FREE copy of
>Tough Tales. THe kind of stories I need will tell about
>my love affair with my Ford truck, why I love my
>Ford, how I got my very first Ford truck, my grandma's
>ole Ford, I'll never forget the day/night....,etc.
>
>Tough Tales is the people side of the awesome F-series
>trucks. I'm ready to roll with it but need more stories.
>Would you consider publishing my request on your
>site?
>
>Look forward to your response.
>
>Judy Scott : )
>
>PS: I have subscribed to the 1997 and up digest and
>can't seem to unsubscribe. Can you help me?
>
>
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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 23:33:28 EDT
From: MEB8100 aol.com
Subject: FTE Small - A few automatic tranny questions

A few questions regarding presumably the same automatic transmission in a 91
Ranger 4.0 4x4 and a 93 Aerostar 4.0 all wheel drive. I tow a fair amount.

1. Does anyone make and has anyone used synthetic tranny fluid?
2. Has anyone installed a tranny fluid temperature gauge and, if so, can you
forward instructions on how to mount the temperature sensor.
3. What about these "full flush" services that some places sell (costs over
$100 to replace fluid in pan & converter? Anybody recommend this be done?
4. Should the transmission be periodically serviced (bands, filter)? My
owner manuals don't list anything specific.
5. Any other recommendations to promote a long & healthy tranny life?

Thanks, Mark Biederbeck

PS - Is there anyway to "reply" to a specific letter when you receive the
digest version?
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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 22:38:26 -0700
From: "Kenneth C. St.John"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - hyperchip results..96 explorer

I have a '91 Explorer and was told (by Ford Mechanics) not to put a lower
temp thermostat. In fact, the Ford head mechanic stated that it prevents
the engine from reaching the correct operating temperature (for the
computer/electronics)???
If you've had good luck with this, where can I purchase a cooler thermostat?
Ford only sells one thermostat for a '91 Expolorer and it's not set at 160
degrees.

Ken
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> From: Sandman
> To: small-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: Re: FTE Small - hyperchip results..96 explorer
> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 12:24:20 -0500 (CDT)
>
>On Tue, 29 Sep 1998 Ding060297 aol.com wrote:
>
>> I own a 1996 ford explorer xlt with the 5.0 v8 and all wheel drive..I
>> recently purchased a hyperchip module and took out my computer and
installed
>> it...It was a very easy installation and it's suppost to increase
horsepower
>> by 18 to 20 at the rear wheel...The only problem i had was under full
throttle
>> i was experiencing severe pinging and after talking to a technical expert
they
>> told me i needed a 160* degree thermostat...I installed this thermostat
and it
>> worked, now the truck runs a lot cooler but the horsepower difference is
there
>> and it also tows my boat with a lot more punch.......This all ran me
about $
>> 250.00 not to bad for a rough 20 hp and 40lbs of torque......Although the
>> company says they have written documents that say none of these
modification
>> will void any warranties i feel the truck was designed to run at 195 and
might....


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