small-list-digest Saturday, September 26 1998 Volume 02 : Number 270



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In this issue:

Re: FTE Small - 4 Door Ranger
RE: FTE Small - 4 Door Ranger
Re: FTE Small - 4 Door Ranger
RE: FTE Small - 4 Door Ranger
Re: FTE Small - 4 Door Ranger
FTE Small - Please remove me from this list
FTE Small - Re: V8 AeroStar
Re: FTE Small - Please remove me from this list
FTE Small - Re:i have a thought
FTE Small - followup on sidestep bars for '98 Ranger

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Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 09:37:14 -0500 (CDT)
From: Robert Fox
Subject: Re: FTE Small - 4 Door Ranger

Its a Crew Cab Ranger with a shorter bed, and from what I can tell it has
bucket seats in the back. I would trade mine in for one in a heartbeat.

Robert Fox
95 Supercab Ranger
93 Supercab F-150
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.ford ranger. com

On Thu, 24 Sep 1998, Alan Wilson wrote:

> At 01:02 PM 9/24/98 -0700, you wrote:
> >Is the 4 door Ranger an extra cab with 2 suicide doors or is it like a
> >Ranger Crew Cab. With a full size back seat and 2 rear doors like on a full
> >size crew cab?
> >-----
>
> >From what I've seen it's the latter...a supercab with 2 unnecessary doors.
>
> Alan Wilson
>

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Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 10:00:11 -0700
From: cassis
Subject: RE: FTE Small - 4 Door Ranger

Everyone else said it was just a extra-cab with suicide doors. Now I am
confused. Anyone out there here of a crew-cab ranger or any plans for one?
I shure would love to see on with a V8. Now that would be an awesome truck.

John Cassis
93' STX 4x4 3.0/5-speed
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From:Robert Fox [SMTP:s10klr ford ranger. com]
Sent:Friday, September 25, 1998 7:37 AM
To:small-list ford-trucks.com
Subject:Re: FTE Small - 4 Door Ranger

Its a Crew Cab Ranger with a shorter bed, and from what I can tell it has
bucket seats in the back. I would trade mine in for one in a heartbeat.

Robert Fox
95 Supercab Ranger
93 Supercab F-150
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.ford ranger. com

On Thu, 24 Sep 1998, Alan Wilson wrote:

> At 01:02 PM 9/24/98 -0700, you wrote:
> >Is the 4 door Ranger an extra cab with 2 suicide doors or is it like a
> >Ranger Crew Cab. With a full size back seat and 2 rear doors like on a
full
> >size crew cab?
> >-----
>
> >From what I've seen it's the latter...a supercab with 2 unnecessary
doors.
>
> Alan Wilson
>

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Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 11:21:38 -0500 (CDT)
From: sford umr.edu
Subject: Re: FTE Small - 4 Door Ranger

>
> Everyone else said it was just a extra-cab with suicide doors. Now I am
> confused. Anyone out there here of a crew-cab ranger or any plans for one?
> I shure would love to see on with a V8. Now that would be an awesome truck.
>

The '99s are just an extended cab with the suicide doors, that guy was just
confused, but I have heard rumors/seen spy pictures of a crew cab ranger that
supposedly could be released for '00 or later. Ford already builds something
like this overseas, and they think it might go over well here. Sooo....
If your willing to wait, then they MIGHT build one.


Scott Ford
'92 Ranger 4X4
'86 Mustang GT
'56 F-100
sford umr.edu
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Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 12:26:36 -0400 (EDT)
From: tarmy webtv.net (tommy oslick jr)
Subject: RE: FTE Small - 4 Door Ranger

to see a picture of this ranger go to the ford web site, or go to your
local ford dealer to see what they are talking about

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Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 11:50:38 -0500
From: "Dave Steelman"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - 4 Door Ranger

There are pictures of crew-cab rangers on the www.ford ranger. com message
board. Look for the message "Check out these Crew Cab Rangers we will never
get. (picture 1)"

www.ford ranger. com/wwwboard.html

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Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 19:26:08 +0200
From: "todd and mignon"
Subject: FTE Small - Please remove me from this list

I would like to be removed from this list as I have written many questions
about my Explorer and never received any responses. This list seems to
only pertain to those with Rangers or Aerostars. Thank you very much.

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Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 12:42:57 -0500
From: Erik
Subject: FTE Small - Re: V8 AeroStar

its possible.. but its a lot of work... my friend had a v8 4by4 aerostar.. partywagon/trail
vehicle... just put the body on another frame... redo the front console or add a body lift
kit for clearance... all done.

and 5.0 rangers rule... my is wonderful... still havent found front brakes
to match or exceed the rear 12 3/16th rear discs i found for it... might have to go with
smaller brakes :( sigh
Erik


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Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 12:43:42 -0000
From: "John Becker"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Please remove me from this list

Todd
In that one would have to think that no one knew the answer
to your question. try to ask it again. this is a very nice list.

John
Louisiana, Missouri.

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> From: todd and mignon
> To: small-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: FTE Small - Please remove me from this list
> Date: Friday, September 25, 1998 5:26 PM
>
> I would like to be removed from this list as I have written many
questions
> about my Explorer and never received any responses. This list seems to
> only pertain to those with Rangers or Aerostars. Thank you very much.
>
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Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 20:39:03 EDT
From: KLESNANSKY aol.com
Subject: FTE Small - Re:i have a thought

Okay to make things simple, I know the frame of the 3/4 or 1 ton vehicle
would be much larger, around 6 inches or so on either sides of the ranger
frame. As long as I used the stock diesal frame the torque wouldn't over
power and snap it. I drive a diesal for work alot of the days and just fell in
love with the power of it. Granted I wouldn't make 0-60 in a very very fast
manner, but then again. lifes lessons have taught me speed can kill quickly.
I.e. rolled a car at 140 mph, don't ask lets just blame inexperiance. The
main reason I would go with a cummins is because they seem to have a greater
pick up and go attitude than the navistar. The main thought with this
question was to see how the world thinks of diesals. And maybe to get a good
debate going. Before I picked up my ranger I had a honda and thought alot
about making a killer hot rod. Now that I have some money I want to make a
good off road vehicle. And maybe a hot rod also! Okay time to jump around
some more. I would get a better gas mileage than a 5.0 and last about three
times as long in the overall mileage routine. As I already have over 105
thousand miles on my truck. The long duration would be a great asset. Since
most are made for the 500,000 mile mark. I have just gotten into the four
wheeling thing big time and was thinking that kind of power would really work
wonders up on the hill. Not to mention that I wouldn't have to have the gas
peddle down very often, or very far.

Ken
95 ranger stx extracab
the 33" will be on in two weeks yippy
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Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 10:12:53 -0700
From: Richard Salitra
Subject: FTE Small - followup on sidestep bars for '98 Ranger

Sorry about the delay in following up to the replies I got. I contacted
GoRhino via emial and following are my questions to them and their
responses.

Questions:
I saw a picture of your product in a truck accessories magazine and am
interested. I just have a few questions that I hope you can answer.
1. Are these available for my truck yet? If so, what is the part # for
black sidesteps?
2. Are these bars frame-mounted or body-mounted?
3. In the picture it appears that the sidestep bars attach via two
points located in the middle of the bar. Do the bars also attach to
the vehicle at their ends, or just at those two middle attachment
points?
4. Is there any drilling required in the installation? Or, is it
entirely a bolt-on job?
5. The Ranger has a cable that runs along the outside of the frame on
the driver's side. How is this handled?
6. Can I order them directly from you? If so, what is the price?
I appreciate your prompt response. thanks.

Answers from GoRhino:
THE PART # ON THE SUMATRA SIDE STEPS FOR YOUR VEHICLE WOULD BE 4168B
FOR BLACK OR 4168C FOR CHROME. THESE STPS ARE GOING TO BE FRAME MOUNTED
AND DO TO OUR NEW BRACKET SYSTEM THEY WILL BE BOLTING ON EACH END OF THE
TUBES INSTEAD OF IN THE MIDDLE. THE STEPS WILL NOT EFFECT THE CABLE ON
YOUR VEHICLE. FOR MORE INFORMATION PLEASE SEND YOUR ADDRESS . THANK
YOU FOR INTEREST IN THE GO RHINO! PRODUCTS.

I'm going to check out the pricing in some more mail-order catalogs and
hopefully order them in a few weeks. I appreciate the info on the
Westin's sidebars but, as far as I know, they are body mounted and I'd
prefer a frame mounted setup.

On Mon, 14 Sep 1998 Ed Yohe replied to my message:
If they are bolt on, $100 is a lot. But, if they need welding or
drilling, $100 might not be so bad. Westin is set to ship their side
bars to dealers starting Oct 12. They should be bolt-ons, but I can't
be 100% sure until I see them.

At 10:07 AM 9/12/98 -0700, you wrote:
Since Smittybuilt hasn't yet come out with anything for a '98 Ranger, I
looked elsewhere & found that Rhino makes what looks to be a comparable
product. Their new Sumatra Series 4000 is frame mounted. The part #
for a '98 extended cab is 4168B (black) and 4168C (chrome). I'm
wondering if anybody has put these on their truck and what they think of
them? Are they really as comparable as they look? - I've only seen them
in a catalog. Also, since I'm not confident about any possible drilling
to put sidebars on, I'm thinking of having a shop put them on for me. I
was quoted $100 for this, $50/hours and 1 hours per side. Is that
reasonable? I appreciate any possible feedback. thanks.....


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