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small-list-digest Thursday, August 27 1998 Volume 02 : Number 240 ======================================================================= Ford Truck Enthusiasts - Ranger, Explorer, Bronco 2 and Aerostar Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, send email to: majordomo with the words "unsubscribe small-list-digest" in the body of the message. ======================================================================= In this issue: FTE Small - Clutch Replacement FTE Small - mileage and perfomance continued FTE Small - RE: Cooling System FTE Small - RE: Getting better mileage and power Re: FTE Small - Clutch Replacement Re: FTE Small - Clutch Replacement FTE Small - FTE in Truckin' magazine Re: FTE Small - Engine Pinging FTE Small - ADMIN: Member web contributions Re: FTE Small - RE: Cooling System Re: FTE Small - Clutch Replacement Re: FTE Small - Engine Pinging Re: FTE Small - mileage and perfomance continued FTE Small - Re:bad braking in my 96 explorer ======================================================================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 08:53:55 -0800 From: Brad Allerheiligen Subject: FTE Small - Clutch Replacement The clutch in my 94 Ranger XLT 4.0 is starting to feel a bit weak, I figure replacement is coming up, so it's time to do some research. First what all is involved in replacement? Is it do-it yourself-able? And second, has anyone here used an aftermarket clutch (Centerforce etc.)? If so how was it compared to stock (pros/cons)? Thanks again, - -Brad- == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 08:44:22 -0500 From: balusek Subject: FTE Small - mileage and perfomance continued From: Ding060297 Danny don't even waste your time with msd ignition ....It does work in some applications but i don't think its worth the time and money in your situation of that lil 2.9 ..Your better off doing other upgrades Like for starters just hit the simple things like get rid of you power robbing fan and throw in a electric one for $80 and you can do it yourself in less than an hour.. Look into changing your exhaust and i don't mean cat back systems they only give ya .005 seconds off...Look into headers a free flow cat and a nice cat back with free flow mufflers you can buy the whole system from any of the big companies borla or flowmaster gibson... And get rid or your air box that holds your air cleaner make it so its an open element with a k&n air filter and you 'll probably be twice as happy as if you would of did just an msd ignition.....And if you got any money left look into a hyperchip....and you should be pretty happy with that for awhile you'll get a sweet sound and a little better fuel mileage when your not stepping on it....... - ---------------------------------------------- Thanks for the insight. I agree 100% on the exhaust upgrade, maximum air flow is always better. Where do I get the open air box? Fabricate it myself or does someone sell them? Who sells the hyperchip? Jegs and Summit seem to favor Chevy V8s with little to offer for the "lowly" 2.9L V6 Ford. And one more question, who makes the $80 electric fan? The one I want is the 15" Flex-a-lite for $180. best regards, Danny B. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 10:36:13 -0400 From: "Maurer, Robert M." Subject: FTE Small - RE: Cooling System ***************** MICHAEL PEACOCK wrote: My '86 BroncoII is running hot. Especially in traffic, on the highway it cools down somewhat. This leads me to believe that the fan clutch is at fault. Here's what I'm going to do. Flush the system Change the thermostat Address the fan issue Here are my questions: I was told that going down a step in thermostat temps would effect the computer. I've taken the temp sensors resistance readings cold and at mid-normal range. I'm going to place a resister in the line to fool the computer into thinking it's operating at operating temp while the 180 degree thermostat hopefully keeps the engine cooler. I know that cooler air and fuel helps the engine produce more efficient power, but what can I expect out of a cooler engine? And how might my reasoning be flawed in the computer tricking idea? About the fan problem, are electric fans as good as I here? What are the draw backs? How do they effect the charging system? Are they worth the $80? ***************** I used a 180* thermostat in my '93 Mustang GT for 4 years; '93 Cobra and '96 Explorer for 3 months now without any problems (all had 195* thermostats stock). Changing to 180* is a popular "problem free" modification to the Mustang. But a thermostat change alone will not solve your underlying problem. Something is making your truck overheat and my guess is that a 15* change in thermostat will not solve it. Fix your problem (could be a bad thermostat, clogged radiator or bad fan motor), go to a 180* thermo and use a bottle of "water wetter" in you antifreeze mixture. WORDS OF WARNING: If you live in a cold climate, a cooler running motor will not produce as much heat in the winter. I live in South Carolina, so for me it's no big deal. Good luck, Rob == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 10:54:15 -0400 From: "Maurer, Robert M." Subject: FTE Small - RE: Getting better mileage and power ************ Danny Balusek wrote: I installed a K&N Filter on my '86 Bronco II with 2.9L V6 a couple of months ago and have not been able to detect any change in performance or fuel mileage. If you think about it, the air/fuel mixture is controlled by the onboard computer and if something causes one of those to change, the computer will compensate by changing the other so as to keep things in balance according to some predefined definition (determined by Ford and most likely the big Oil Companies). I think the biggest improvement to be had with the K&N Filter may be cleaner air. The next thing I plan on doing to my Bronco II in the ever elusive search for improved mileage and performance is installing an MSD coil, 8MM plug wires, and new set of Autolite Platinum plugs gapped .005" to .007" wider than stock recommendations. I've been told this combination works pretty good but only time and money will tell. ************ Doesn't the onboard computer also control spark output. So using your philosophy, the computer will compensate for any changes you make to the ignition system. Therefore net effect = no change in performance?? Don't believe all of the propaganda about performance improvements (add "this" to get 25 extra hp and 5 extra mpg per tank). Does the K&N work, Yes. With this change "alone" will you see or feel improvements, probably not. My "seat-O-pants" meter is not very accurate, so I don't think I would feel a 5 hp gain. Smart modifications to the induction, exhaust and ignition systems will add up to increase performance. BTW: Autolites are good plugs, but don't bother with the platinums. Good luck, Rob == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 11:30:26 -0400 From: "Russ Parker" Subject: Re: FTE Small - Clutch Replacement It's not too bad of a job, hydraulic clutches are easy. Take your time and dont try and set any speed records for clutch jobs and you'll be fine. Screw centerforce though, they totally suck for our trucks. I've had two fail and I know countless other racers that have been let down by them. I used to do alot of mudracing, plus Im terribly hard on clutches. I broke the input shaft on my T-K 5 speed and was talked into one of those "While you have it apart" deals with changing to a centerforce clutch. The first disc lasted about a month before it broke, forcing me to synchro shift home and roll every stop for 50 miles. I pulled it apart and here one of the little kevlar pads that slide had popped loose on one end, the next time the pressure plate closed on it, snap! No biggie really, everyone has QC flaws sooner or later. I called them and they were more than happy to replace it. I got the flywheel resurfaced and put the new one in. That one failed at a race, it let me down going into the finals too! I heard it but thought that maybe it was just mud hitting the bottom of the truck. Clutch felt a little funny when I pushed it in to start it, and made an evil hiss when I let it out. Most of the stupid pads flew clear off this time! This time they wouldn't replace it because it failed while racing. My feeling is if they wont stand behind it for racing what is it for then? Why not just buy a stock clutch and save the coin, you can pick up a centerforce sticker at a swap meet and bang there you have it. I'm using a mean green clutch right now and it locks up tight every time and hasn't broke yet. - -Russ == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 12:00:31 -0400 From: luxjo Subject: Re: FTE Small - Clutch Replacement Russ Parker wrote: > I'm using a mean green clutch right > now and it locks up tight every time and hasn't broke yet. I'll second the mean green recommendation. I have one in my 78 full size Bronc, Been wheeling the crap out of it and towing over 5000 lbs for many years and it still grabs like new. OX == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 14:21:45 -0400 From: Ken Payne Subject: FTE Small - FTE in Truckin' magazine The October issue (now on news-stands) of Truckin' magazine has a really nice write-up about Ford Truck Enthusiasts (thanks Gary!). The article is about web sites and they really complimented us. I wanted to send a public "thank you" to Truckin Magazine and also let the list members know so they can check it out. Regards, Ken Payne CoAdmin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts http://www.ford-trucks.com == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 17:51:04 +0000 From: Garr&Pam Subject: Re: FTE Small - Engine Pinging I've exerimented with diffent octanes to see if the problem was the same no change. I've cleaned the throttle body but not the injectors (as no loss of gas mileage has occurred). You could still have a dirty injector without a loss of gas mileage. When I swapped to a K&N filter, again, the problem was still there. I have about 53K miles on the engine but this problem started under 5K miles! Since I was running back and forth over-seas, I never had time for the dealer to look at it. Now that I'm here for good, I'd like to diagnose/fix myself. I had read another article relating to the EGR valve. I don't think my engine has this on it (4.0), correct? Any other ideas on this? You truck does have an EGR system and it probably needs cleaning. Have you changed your O2 sensor yet? The can still be with in thier limits so that it does not turn the light on but be bad enough to cause problems. Let us know what you come up with! Check for tsbs concerning this at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.alldata.com == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 19:47:34 -0400 From: Ken Payne Subject: FTE Small - ADMIN: Member web contributions FTE's web site is kinda stale. It will be undergoing a face lift soon. If you'd like to contribute any of the following for the update: 1. Book or magazine review 2. Tech article. This can range from simple to complex. If you installed a K&N on your 98, added a shift kit to your ride or raised it 2 feet - almost anything you have to give, we'll use. 3. Information or programs, click "misc" on the site for examples. As usual, you retain the copyright and we'll take if off the site if at some time in the future you ask us to. Send submissions to: kpayne Ken Payne CoAdmin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts http://www.ford-trucks.com == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 21:27:19 -0400 (EDT) From: tarmy Subject: Re: FTE Small - RE: Cooling System i have seen were the cylinder head crack near valve guides this could also be a problem == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 21:29:57 -0400 (EDT) From: tarmy Subject: Re: FTE Small - Clutch Replacement center force is ok to use. i have put them in some of my buddys explorers and ranger. the kit is nice. bleeding the clutch can be difficult at times == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 00:12:13 EDT From: Ding060297 Subject: Re: FTE Small - Engine Pinging Yes i wrote about checking the egr valve and not only does your engine have it i believe all engines have it............check your manual find it test it and see what happens its worth a shot i had this problem back awhile ago with an older car and sure enough mine was stuck..........ding060297 == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 00:16:14 EDT From: Ding060297 Subject: Re: FTE Small - mileage and perfomance continued I went to a place called Kar parts and picked my fan for just $ 80.00 and as for your air box unless k&n makes a ram air kit you'll probably have to fabricate it yourself.....Keep your hose and box and find another from a junk yard or something and do a lil modifications at least if you mess up you still have your orginal to put back in...... == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 00:29:33 EDT From: Ding060297 Subject: FTE Small - Re:bad braking in my 96 explorer I have the 96 explorer xlt with the 5.0 v8 and the all-wheel drive system...I have the whole tow package which consists of the 3:73 axle ratio and heavy duty radiator and external trans cooler and all the heavy duty relays for the lights. This truck with these accesories is capable of towing 6750lbs., which i do believe i now tow a bass boat that is 19' and around the 4,000lbs and i have no problem towing in fact its very impressive over my last tow truck which was the 92 explorer with the 4.0 .....But my question is with all this extra stuff in it for towing is there any kind of heavy duty braking available i can't stop this dam thing for the life of me.....And i know my trailer brakes are working because they lock up if i hit them hard enough, My last truck had rear drum brakes and it stopped twice as fast and with a much better feel this 96 explorer has the all wheel disc brakes with abs and has just been serviced with all new pads and all resurfaced rotors.....with no change its still sucks.........none of these rotors are warped and the truck doesn't pull at all under braking so i'm assuming everything is working fine but why can't i stopppppppppppppp.....any info is really.... 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