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In this issue:

FTE Small - Bronco II problems
Re: FTE Small - Bronco II problems
Re: FTE Small - Bronco II problems
Re: FTE Small - Electric Fans
Re: FTE Small - Electric Fans
FTE Small - ADMIN: Your email address ford-trucks.com!
Re: FTE Small - Have you installed a CB in your truck?
Re: FTE Small - Bronco II problems
FTE Small - Aerostar/Ranger AC, Heat
FTE Small - ADMIN: Last chance to nominate us!
FTE Small - Westin products phone number
Re: FTE Small - Have you installed a CB in your truck?
Re: FTE Small - Have you installed a CB in your truck?

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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 06:49:00 -0700
From: Joe Zuk
Subject: FTE Small - Bronco II problems

I just got back from a long trip with my 87 Bronco II, I had a few
problems that I need some help with.
- - On the 3 days out the truck was not developing enough power. Going
over some of the mountain ranges was hard. On the 1st night (after
driving about 400-500 miles) I turned off the truck and when I started
it up again I got a sound from the gas tank like the gas was boiling.
The outside temp was in the high 90s(maybe 100), the tank felt warm.
This only happen once, was this vapor lock, or is the fuel pump going
out? It only happen once.
- - After about 3 days I put some fuel injector cleaner in and my lack of
power problems seam to go away.
- - On one part of my trip I was doing some hill climbing in 2nd 3rd gear.
My temp gauge was in the upper 3/4 of the scale. I keep driving the all
of the sudden the temp drop way down to the lower 1/4. I have never seen
this before, do you think the thermostat needs to be replaced?

Thanks,
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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 10:32:17 -0400
From: "AutoTech"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Bronco II problems

JOE, WHEN YOU CHANGE THE THERMOSTAT FLUSH THE RADIATOR. THEY TEND TO BUILD
UP WITH RUST IN THE LOWER SECTION BILL
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From: Joe Zuk
To: small-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 9:51 AM
Subject: FTE Small - Bronco II problems


>I just got back from a long trip with my 87 Bronco II, I had a few
>problems that I need some help with.
>- On the 3 days out the truck was not developing enough power. Going
>over some of the mountain ranges was hard. On the 1st night (after
>driving about 400-500 miles) I turned off the truck and when I started
>it up again I got a sound from the gas tank like the gas was boiling.
>The outside temp was in the high 90s(maybe 100), the tank felt warm.
>This only happen once, was this vapor lock, or is the fuel pump going
>out? It only happen once.
>- After about 3 days I put some fuel injector cleaner in and my lack of
>power problems seam to go away.
>- On one part of my trip I was doing some hill climbing in 2nd 3rd gear.
>My temp gauge was in the upper 3/4 of the scale. I keep driving the all
>of the sudden the temp drop way down to the lower 1/4. I have never seen
>this before, do you think the thermostat needs to be replaced?
>
>Thanks,
>Joe
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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 08:01:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: Bill Ciocco
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Bronco II problems

I have had close to the same problem when sitting in traffic, but hten
I noticed that it was all of my gauges. They all went up to about
double what the were for about 5-10 minutes then came back down. It
only does it when it rains so it may be a bad ground or something.
If this ever happens again, check the rest of your gauges. I have
heard that there is a volage regulator for the dash that could cause
this, you might want to check it as well.
>
>
> >I just got back from a long trip with my 87 Bronco II, I had a few
> >problems that I need some help with.
> >- On the 3 days out the truck was not developing enough power. Going
> >over some of the mountain ranges was hard. On the 1st night (after
> >driving about 400-500 miles) I turned off the truck and when I
started
> >it up again I got a sound from the gas tank like the gas was boiling.
> >The outside temp was in the high 90s(maybe 100), the tank felt warm.
> >This only happen once, was this vapor lock, or is the fuel pump going
> >out? It only happen once.
> >- After about 3 days I put some fuel injector cleaner in and my
lack of
> >power problems seam to go away.
> >- On one part of my trip I was doing some hill climbing in 2nd 3rd
gear.
> >My temp gauge was in the upper 3/4 of the scale. I keep driving the
all
> >of the sudden the temp drop way down to the lower 1/4. I have never
seen
> >this before, do you think the thermostat needs to be replaced?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Joe
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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 10:16:31 -0500
From: "David Steelman"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Electric Fans

Hey folks.
I'm contemplating installing an electric fan in my 98 Ranger Supercab 4x4
3.0 5 spd.man. As far as I understand it, electric fans will increase the
cooling efficiency and remove the small amount of drag that the stock fan
places on the engine. I've looked at the fans on the Summit web site and
they offer several sizes from 10" to 16". I assume that the larger the fan,
the better, right?
Has anyone out there installed electric fans in their trucks? I'd
appreciate hearing your opinions on the matter. How difficult/easy was it?

Thanks

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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 16:11:07 +0000
From: Garr&Pam
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Electric Fans

David Steelman wrote:
>
> Hey folks.
> I'm contemplating installing an electric fan in my 98 Ranger Supercab 4x4
> 3.0 5 spd.man. As far as I understand it, electric fans will increase the
> cooling efficiency and remove the small amount of drag that the stock fan
> places on the engine. I've looked at the fans on the Summit web site and
> they offer several sizes from 10" to 16". I assume that the larger the fan,
> the better, right?
> Has anyone out there installed electric fans in their trucks? I'd
> appreciate hearing your opinions on the matter. How difficult/easy was it?
>
> Thanks
>
> Dave
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Two smaller fans are better than one large, pushes(or pulls depending on
which fan you get) amot more air than a single fan!
Hope this helps
Chris

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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 17:48:53 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE Small - ADMIN: Your email address ford-trucks.com!

>From the Ford Truck Enthusiasts admin, please read it, its
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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 18:47:25 -0500 (CDT)
From: Sandman
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Have you installed a CB in your truck?

On Mon, 27 Jul 1998, EI - Michael Ioco wrote:

> My needs were the same as yours, Alan. I'm leasing my 98 Ranger, so I didn't
> want anything permanent.
>
> I went with a Uniden radio (not sure of the model, but I'll look it up if you
> want it) that fit's perfectly underneath the armrest of my 60/40 split. I got
> power from the cigar lighter, so I didn't have to mess with any wiring. My
> antenna is a "Lil Wil," magnet mounted to the roof. The co-ax comes in the rear
> slider and tucks away in the trim all the way to the floor where it sneaks up to
> the CB from behind.
>
> It's not the best mounting, but it's easy to take from vehicle to vehicle and
> get's awesome reception.
>
> Drawbacks, antenna doesn't fit into the garage. I pull mine off to fit in the
> garage, and that's starting to scratch the roof. If you don't have a bed liner,
> you'll probably get good reception with the antenna in the bed.
>
> Ideas to enhance MY mounting are welcome!
>
> The F-150 doesn't get garaged anymore, so I put two 3FT whips on there. The CB
> is mounted to the roof right between the sun visors - big rig style! But the
> reception is crappy, probably because of bad grounds on the antennas.
>
> Mike in Michigan
>
> 98 Ranger SC 4x4 ORP
> 97 F-150 SC 4x4 ORP
> 96 Explorer 4x4 Sport
>
>
>
> > From: "Alan Wilson"
> > Subject: FTE Small - Have you installed a CB in your truck?
> >
> > I'm thinking of installing a CB Radio in my '98 Ford Ranger. I was
> > wondering if anyone has installed a CB in their trucks(any model)?
> >
> > If so, what kind of CB works best?
> >
> > Where did you put it? I don't seem to have room in my truck.
> >
> > What type of antennae do you have? Also, I would like to get a radio that I
> > can easily remove and put back whenever I wanted to take it out of the
> > truck. Anyone have any ideas on that kind or any antennaes that can be
> > removed easily.
> >
> > Also, how do you install it? And how much do they run.
> >
> > Thanks for you help.
> >
> > Alan Wilson
> >
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Does anyone know who makes Rat(Radio) Shack's CB radios? I was gonna pick
up one
there since it was a low cost unit($79) and I have a 10% off coupon to
there.

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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 22:01:47 -0400
From: "Thomas Moore"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Bronco II problems

>I just got back from a long trip with my 87 Bronco II, I had a few
>problems that I need some help with.


I've got an 87 also (love it).

>- On the 3 days out the truck was not developing enough power. Going
>over some of the mountain ranges was hard. On the 1st night (after
>driving about 400-500 miles) I turned off the truck and when I started
>it up again I got a sound from the gas tank like the gas was boiling.
>The outside temp was in the high 90s(maybe 100), the tank felt warm.
>This only happen once, was this vapor lock, or is the fuel pump going
>out? It only happen once.
>- After about 3 days I put some fuel injector cleaner in and my lack of
>power problems seam to go away.


Also try new plugs. I just changed mine and in made a HUGE difference in
power (I used the Bosch Platnum) and a K&N Air Filter (or just a regular
filter if it is dirty). You could also try changing the fuel filters.

>- On one part of my trip I was doing some hill climbing in 2nd 3rd gear.
>My temp gauge was in the upper 3/4 of the scale. I keep driving the all
>of the sudden the temp drop way down to the lower 1/4. I have never seen
>this before, do you think the thermostat needs to be replaced?

Seems normal to me. My temp gauge is usually in the middle, but will move up
to the high end (near the red) on a hot day with the A/C on. If it's a
manual, keep the revvs up. Proper oil level in the engine and trans are
important to. Your oil could just need changing. Otherwise I wouldn't worry.

T

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Date: 28 Jul 1998 20:24:32 EDT
From: Hawk sktc.net
Subject: FTE Small - Aerostar/Ranger AC, Heat

(snip--alot)
SM>What do others of you think about this? What's your experience?
SM>And I'm really curious: does Ford simply put the Ranger's
SM>pickup-truck-sized AC/Heat components into the Aerostar -- and offer
SM>the neccessry rear booster as an extra-cost "option?"

SM>Richard

Richard, I can't help with the A/C, but I will give you some heater core
dimensions that I think you will find interesting.

92 Aerostar 7 3/4x7 1/4x2
92 Ranger 8x6x2
92 Caravan 7 3/8x6 1/4x1 1/4
92 Astro 7 3/8x7 3/4x1 1/4

I would look for a problem under dash with a door not opening (or
closing) properly, or with a water line running to or from the core, or
the core not properly bled. Good luck.
Buck Shoff

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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 22:22:10 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE Small - ADMIN: Last chance to nominate us!

Nominations close on August 1st.

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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 22:48:45 EDT
From: "Yohe, Edwin B"
Subject: FTE Small - Westin products phone number

Does anybody have a phone number or even a state for Westin bars? They
have a 5 year warranty on their products, but I can't figure out how to
contact them at all TIA Ed
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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 21:09:57 -0400
From: Geoffrey Hoffman
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Have you installed a CB in your truck?

At 7:47 PM -0400 7/28/98, Sandman wrote:
>Does anyone know who makes Rat(Radio) Shack's CB radios? I was gonna pick
>up one
>there since it was a low cost unit($79) and I have a 10% off coupon to
>there.

well, i dunno what the rules are on suggesting places, and i have nothing
to do with any of these places, but I got mine from Copper radio, and they
seem to have the best prices from what i have found

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.copper.com

Coax-kids's (aka left coast radio if i remember) is another place that has
comparable prices.

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.coaxkid.com

my experience with radio shack is that they stuff is not very good, and not
very cheap compared to other stuff.

Cobra, Uniden (that is what I have), and Midland are probably your best bet.

+-----------------------------------------------------------+
Geoffrey Hoffman http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.pobox.com/~hoffy/
ICQ: 10113556 gch2 cornell.edu
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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 22:16:03 -0700
From: "Ulysses Samilo"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Have you installed a CB in your truck?

Just a few tips on getting the best reception/transmision from your CB.

First off, it always pays to get a quality radio. Most importantly, you
must have a good setup for your antenna. Doesn't matter how good your
radio is, if the antenna isn't set up correctly, you're not going to
receive or transmit properly at all. This is my personal opinion, but I
think it is best to use a half wave length or quarter wave length antenna.
I've used both and have gotten excellent transmission and reception from
both and they are available at radio shack. The only draw back is that
they are tall, very tall, which makes it a pain if you garage your vehicle.
Otherwise the height is just what you need to get your signal out or get a
signal in. If you decide on a short antenna, do some research and get a
good one (concentrate on the load aspect of an antenna. The load is usually
but not always at the base of the antenna. It is a coil that is usually
encased and is used to emulate a longer antenna.) Next, when you hook up
your system, use the shortest amount of antenna cable as possible (what
your routing needs allow). It is usually not a good idea to mount the
antenna in your truck bed. The bed is great to use as a ground plane
because of its surface area, but height usually wins out. The roof is the
best place for short antennas. The closer to the middle of the roof the
better so as to more optimally use the planar surface of the roof. Lastly,
you must match the antenna to the system. This is best left to the
experts. I think it is best to do the matching AFTER you hook up the
antenna and run the cable to the CB. After all, you are trying to match
the antenna to the WHOLE system. What good is it if you bring your
antenna, cable and radio to a CB shop to be matched, then find out you have
to do a little cable cutting later because the cable is too long. If you
decide to do the matching yourself you'll need an SWR meter (Standing Wave
Ratio). This measures how much reflection you get between the antenna and
the radio. Too much reflection equates to not enough power being
transmitted/received. Be prepared to do a little antenna cutting as well
on those short antenna units. If you have to resort to cutting to get a
good match, cut off a smaller amount than is necessary. Its always easier
to cut off a little more, but real hard to grow more antenna if you mess
up. By the way, I am not an RF engineer and am not an expert at this so
let me know if my facts are wrong (No flames please, I am just trying to
help), I just dabled as a general engineer in my past job and RF systems
was one of my tasks, so I know a little about hooking up a system. I just
do this stuff for fun so I can communicate with my buddies when I'm out 4....

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