small-list-digest Sunday, July 5 1998 Volume 02 : Number 185



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In this issue:

FTE Small - Ford Small list or Audio Flame list?
FTE Small - distributor for bronco II
FTE Small - Tap Tap Tapping-Nevermore!
Re: FTE Small - Ford Small list or Audio Flame list?
Re: FTE Small - Amplifiers: The Second Consideration
Re: FTE Small - Tap Tap Tapping-Nevermore!
FTE Small - anyone having problems with their '98 Explorer 4.0 SOHC?
FTE Small - Bronco II Questions
Re: FTE Small - Tap Tap Tapping-Nevermore!

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Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 08:21:31 -0400
From: "Lou Guerriero"
Subject: FTE Small - Ford Small list or Audio Flame list?

Man, this audio thread is getting lame. How about something new.. like
trucks! Let whoever wants to do what they like to their stereos, speakers,
etc. If they have it too loud, then call the police. Most towns have noise
legislation that makes certain levels without permits punishable by fines.
Not only that, it may be considered an impairment toward driving. But
really, flaming the guy just cuz he wants to turn up the power on his audio,
is really not necessary, and not what this list is about.

Here's a non audio related question... (hehehe). What's the loudest
exhaust system I can put on a Ranger / Bronco II?

Sorry, just had to say that.. :-o

Lou Guerriero
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Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 09:43:20 -0500
From: "Larry Brown"
Subject: FTE Small - distributor for bronco II

Is there a vacuum or mechanical advance type of distributor that will work
in a '84 bronco II with a 2.8 V-6?

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Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 14:09:53 EDT
From: Bakend aol.com
Subject: FTE Small - Tap Tap Tapping-Nevermore!

Date:7/4/98

Hi,
Well, I finally got rid of the lifter noise from my 1987 2.9 Ranger. With the
help of the list, I decided to replace the cam and lifters as well as the oil
pump. Not sure which of these it was, but it now runs stronger than ever and
is super quiet. The cam looked good as the new one, but got changed any way
while I was in there. I also pulled the 5 speed tranny and rebuilt it. The
input shaft bearing was shot! The balls looked like rocks rather than
bearings! Been driving it for two weeks now and what a pleasure to drive a
like new vehicle!! No more tap tap tap and no more roar and rumble in all
gears including neutral!
D Baken
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Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 12:27:54 -0700 (PDT)
From: mark fitzgerald
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Ford Small list or Audio Flame list?

I think you could run about 170db's on a ranger or bronco II exhaust.
It should be rather....throaty sounding however.:)

Best regards,
Fitzy





- ---Lou Guerriero wrote:
>
> Man, this audio thread is getting lame. How about something
new.. like
> trucks! Let whoever wants to do what they like to their stereos,
speakers,
> etc. If they have it too loud, then call the police. Most towns
have noise
> legislation that makes certain levels without permits punishable by
fines.
> Not only that, it may be considered an impairment toward driving. But
> really, flaming the guy just cuz he wants to turn up the power on
his audio,
> is really not necessary, and not what this list is about.
>
> Here's a non audio related question... (hehehe). What's the
loudest
> exhaust system I can put on a Ranger / Bronco II?
>
> Sorry, just had to say that.. :-o
>
> Lou Guerriero
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>
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> Mail: loug bigfoot.com
> Kali: Loucifur
> ICQ: 1235438
>
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Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 12:41:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: mark fitzgerald
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Amplifiers: The Second Consideration

Hey mike,
Hope you enjoy your day.

Best regards,
Fitzy




- ---Mike Fisher wrote:
>
> Sorry, Fitzy, but I think you're the one that's being infantile
here. How
> old are you, 16? Just because you have the right to deafen yourself
doesn't
> mean that you have the right to annoy everyone else with your
choices in
> entertainment.
>
> Yes, I am man enough to let it fade away, but are you? Better than
that, are
> you man enough to admit that that your choices are not necessarily
those
> everyone else might choose? Not only do you choose what everyone
else should
> listen to, but you choose that they get an unlistenable, distorted
version
> of it. Have you ever listened to 170dB (yeah, right) from the
outside of
> your own truck. I'll bet every piece of trim is buzzing and ready to
fall
> off, isn't it?
>
> Oh, and learn to punctuate and use capital letters where appropriate
from
> now on, too.
>
> Worst Regards,
>
> Mike Fisher
>
> mark fitzgerald wrote:
>
> > I don't even know why i read just an infantile response. It was
> > obviously written by someone who is ultimately close minded and who
> > lives life making unnecessary generalizations. It's not even worth
it
> > to refute his opinions on the matter as anybody i've shown his
letter
> > to ends up laughing at him.
> > I just feel bad that everybody else on the list had to read his BS.
> > Let's see if he's man enough to let this issue fade away or does he
> > need to proclaim his superiority in brain and penile size again?
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Fitzy
> >
> > ---Mike Fisher wrote:
> > >
> > > At the risk of prolonging this guy's ridiculous argument, I wonder
> > if he
> > > has
> > > ever stopped to think that maybe he could listen to his music at
home
> > > rather
> > > than driving around? I occasionally like to crank my music too,
but I
> > > don't
> > > want to listen to the s**t that most people think is music these
days,
> > > and I
> > > won't force my choice of music on them. A compact truck tends to
only
> > > somewhat muffle the sound, as mosy have very little, if any,
effective
> > > insulation.
> > >
> > > Comparing the noise that a lawn mower makes to somebody's stereo
is
> > > ridiculous anyway. A lawn mower is something that is an
essential part
> > > of
> > > home ownership, while to say the least, a stereo is a luxury.
> > >
> > > The thing that bothers me the most here is what his idea of a
> > > "reasonable"
> > > sound level would be. If a stereo is really capable of producing
170dB
> > > (which, BTW, I believe is impossible without serious distortion)
> > then he
> > >
> > > really won't have much hearing left after a few days anyway. Of
> > course,
> > > if
> > > he's deaf, then any distortion that appears will only be heard by
> > > whoever he
> > > chooses to annoy.
> > >
> > > As for sound competitions furthering the development of new sound
> > > technology, hogwash. The sound that is created by good stereo
> > equipment
> > > these days is as good as it gets. Sound competitions are for
guys with
> > > small
> > > brains and small penises.
> > >
> > > mark fitzgerald wrote:
> > >
> > > > Richard,
> > > > You're right, 170db is about as loud as an orchestra. Just to
put
> > this
> > >
> > > > in check, that means that your lawnmower is about 100-120db.
> > (provided
> > >
> > > > you mow your lawn) Now i know i can hear your lawnmower from
more
> > than
> > >
> > > > 50 feet away. I live up in northern NH where we don't even have
> > street
> > >
> > > > lights.
> > > > My town is the ultimate definition of hickville. We too have
the "50
> > > > foot" rule. However, the local police force here has stopped
using
> > it
> > > > b/c they recognize it as BS. From the hours of 8am until 10pm,
the
> > > > sound ordinance in our town is curbed. Therefore people are
> > allowed to
> > >
> > > > mow their lawn, etc etc etc.....During this time, why would it
not
> > be
> > > > acceptable to play my music to a volume that i deem
reasonable? Do
> > you
> > >
> > > > or your neighbors have a heavy duty muffler on your lawnmower? i
> > think
> > >
> > > > not. Therefore why should i go around and lessen my enjoyment
and
> > turn
> > >
> > > > down my volume?
> > > > As for where and why should sound systems be played at 170db's
of
> > > > sound? By placing a stereo system in a car you are trying to
create
> > > > staging and acoustical resonance in a something equivalent to a
> > metal
> > > > box with a few pieces of plastic. By getting a soundsystem to
play
> > > > recognizable sounds at that level is not only amazing, but
it's an
> > > > incredible feat of engineering. Sound-offs, or sound
competitions
> > > > prove to be staging grounds for new ideas and new
innoventions. All
> > > > this works to push the industry to a higher level.
> > > > So next time you're outside and hear someone drive by, just
remember
> > > > that he can probably hear not only your lawnmower, but also your
> > stock
> > >
> > > > soundsystem.
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > > Fitzy
> > > >
> > > > PS. I guess i just reflect our state's motto. "Live free or die"
> > >
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Date: Sat, 04 Jul 1998 15:52:45 -0400
From: Nathan Heid
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Tap Tap Tapping-Nevermore!

>Hi,
>Well, I finally got rid of the lifter noise from my 1987 2.9 Ranger.

Good! that tap tap tapping noise was destroying your hearing!

>like new vehicle!! No more tap tap tap and no more roar and rumble in all
>gears including neutral!

Was it a 170 dB roar in all gears?

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Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 15:21:39 -0500
From: "Parker Brooks"
Subject: FTE Small - anyone having problems with their '98 Explorer 4.0 SOHC?

hi all,

we have an '98 explorer 4.0 SOHC V6 4-door. the problem that i'm having is
what sounds like a wheel bearing whine while taking a sharp turn (u-turn),
as well as just turning the steering wheel. i'm thinking along the lines of
a bad cv joint?

anyway, when taken into the dealer, they said that the noise was normal. we
had a '97 explorer (carbon copy) and i know we didn't have this problem. i
think they listen to the power steering pump rather than the whine from the
suspension/wheels. so took it back and they said there is a tech bulletin
for a power steering hose, possibly making a noise. so they ordered it, but
still not sure if this is going to be it. anyone else have this or
suggestions?

thanks,
Parker (st. louis)
whoz primary.net


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Date: Sun, 05 Jul 1998 00:50:40 -0400
From: Thomas Moore
Subject: FTE Small - Bronco II Questions

Hi, I just joined the mail list after purchasing a 87 Bronco II and have
some questions about some problems I have:

- - There is a tansmission oil leak (automatic) where only after a long
drive the trans will start to leak while running the engine and stops
leaking when I turn off the engine. The leak comes from where the motor
and trans connect. The car has 105K, but the trans shifts fine. Is this
a major or minor fix?

- - There is an oil leak where I can smell oil burning (a little smoke
from the engine compartment too) and it appears to be just a valve cover
leak. What else could leak oil? This is a small leak and oil does not
drip on the ground.

- - The interior blower fan seems to have something stuck in it since I
can here a "clicking" that changes with the speed of the fan with the
A/C on. Do I have to take apart the blower casing under the dash to fix
this? The noise gets worse when I make right turns (go figure?)

- - The Rear Antilock brake light flashes on the dash intermittently. Is
this cause for concern?

Other then these problems, I LOVE THIS TRUCK. It's an EB edition with
all the goodies and I wouldn't trade it for anything!

Tom

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Date: Sun, 5 Jul 1998 05:27:21 EDT
From: Bakend aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Tap Tap Tapping-Nevermore!

In a message dated 7/4/98 1:54:11 PM Mountain Daylight Time, neh2 cybrtown.com
writes:


>
> Good! that tap tap tapping noise was destroying your hearing!
....


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