small-list-digest Thursday, June 4 1998 Volume 02 : Number 156



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In this issue:

FTE Small - Re: Play in the steering wheel.
FTE Small - Rear discs??
[none]
Re: FTE Small - Aerostar oil pump
RE: FTE Small - Rear discs??
FTE Small - Re:
Re: FTE Small - Rear discs??
FTE Small - Play in the steering wheel (about my truck)
FTE Small - Re:
FTE Small - Carlisle Show
Re: FTE Small - Carlisle Show
FTE Small - Re:
FTE Small - 5.0L Ranger conversion
Re: FTE Small - Carlisle Show
FTE Small - radio removal
FTE Small - Please nominate Ford Truck Enthusiasts

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Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 08:42:42 -0700
From: "Pete Lawless"
Subject: FTE Small - Re: Play in the steering wheel.

> My steering is feeling really loose lately. Do any of you guys know what
> could be causing the problem. I know it isn't because of powersteering
> because I don't have it. Any help would be appreciated.

Could be your steering box is loose, tie-rods worn out, etc. It should be
pretty easy to identify: have someone sit in your truck and turn the
steering wheel back and forth just far enough to make the tires move (not
lock to lock) while you inspect steering components from the firewall on
down... you should be able to see the problem. Mine got real sloppy when my
tie-rods wore out.

Later.... Pete
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Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 12:56:42 -0700
From: "André E. Benguerel"
Subject: FTE Small - Rear discs??

Mike,

Any quality machine shop or race shop should be able to cross drill your
rotors. Be careful though, it can actually make rotors weaker and reduce the
effective braking area. New Explorer's have rear discs, a Ford dealer will
have a parts list, the installation would be costly but look OEM. The only
question I have is about the ABS. My Ranger has drums in the rear also, so a
swap would be nice. It blows my mind that Ford still puts drums on the rear!
(hello, it's the 90's) I would like to find out who makes the kit someone
spoke of in a previous post, and if it's for newer Fords.

Good luck!

Andre E. Benguerel

1995 Ford Ranger 4 X4 SC
4.0L V6, OD Auto, Xlt
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Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 16:32:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: Karl Johns
Subject: [none]

I was hoping some one out there might be able to give me some
information. I have a 90' ranger and would like to remove the
radio but there is a moulding which goes around the climate
controls, radio and around the instrument panel. I can't seem to
find how it comes off. Any info would be appreciated.

Thanks

Karl
90' ranger 4x4 137000miles
74' f100 4x4 106000miles

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Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 17:15:12 EDT
From: Bakend aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Aerostar oil pump

In a message dated 6/1/98 9:57:28 PM Mountain Daylight Time, Hawk sktc.net
writes:

>
> I guess you have me somewhat confused. In one post you say you want
> advice on rebuilding the engine, replacing it, or putting in a 302. In
> another post you say that you have a cam and lifters on order. Now it
> seems as though you are still looking for that magic fixit button. I
> think the proper order of things is to have the problem or problems
> diagnosed properly. This might not be possible to be done in this
> forum, I'd hate to have you spend alot of time or money to drop the pan,
> and find nothing wrong with a regulator valve, but it is possible that
> it is the problem. After a good diagnosis, then decide what to tear
> down and then decide weather to rebuild or replace. I guess what I'm
> trying to say is that you have been given some good advice by several
> list members, but that is all any of us can do, the rest is up to you.
> Good Luck,
> Buck Shoff
Well Buck I guess I did have you confused. I posed several questions to the
list and recieved good but different opinions. Exactly what I was looking for!
I was convinced that the lifter was the problem, but did not want to go
through the expense and work just to find out that the cam was bad too. Many
replies confirmed that replacing the cam and the lifters was the way to go. I
therefore decided to do both.Then the oil pump subject came up and the relief
valve was mentioned. Well it seems to be a good time to replace that while I
have the intake and heads off. Lots more clearance to raise the engine. Now
comes the subject of the rebuild. With about $400 in parts and about as much
work as installing a long block, maybe a rebuild would have been the way to
go, which leads to the thought "Gee I wish I had more power for all that
expense " And ultimately the 302 V8. One thing I never asked for was a "magic
fixit button"! when I was young nad dumb I would have tore right in and made
all the mistakes. Now with the help of this list and all the expeirence of the
members I can skip a few of those costly steps.
I hope this helps clear up any confusion
D Bakenm
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Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 15:24:38 -0600
From: Dave Armbruster
Subject: RE: FTE Small - Rear discs??

I *may* have an idea as to the reasoning behind staying with drums,
especially on the Rangers. When you set the parking brake on a disc
brake, it would be much weaker than one on a drum. Could come down to
utility, like parking with a boat/trailer or unpaved, non level grades,
etc.

My $.02
Dave


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andr=E9 E. Benguerel [SMTP:ffart ap.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 1998 1:57 PM
> To: small-list ford-trucks.com; mkrause thewoodlandstx.com
> Subject: FTE Small - Rear discs??
>=20
> Mike,
>=20
> Any quality machine shop or race shop should be able to cross drill
> your
> rotors. Be careful though, it can actually make rotors weaker and
> reduce the
> effective braking area. New Explorer's have rear discs, a Ford dealer
> will
> have a parts list, the installation would be costly but look OEM. The
> only
> question I have is about the ABS. My Ranger has drums in the rear
> also, so a
> swap would be nice. It blows my mind that Ford still puts drums on =
the
> rear!
> (hello, it's the 90's) I would like to find out who makes the kit
> someone
> spoke of in a previous post, and if it's for newer Fords.
>=20
> Good luck!
>=20
> Andre E. Benguerel
>
> 1995 Ford Ranger 4 X4 SC
> 4.0L V6, OD Auto, Xlt
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Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 17:51:25 EDT
From: FrdRngrLvr aol.com
Subject: FTE Small - Re:

In a message dated 6/3/98 3:33:58 PM Central Daylight Time,
JOHNSK1 WPGATE.UOFS.EDU writes:

>
I have a 90 ranger myself and the only way that i got that ring off was to
slide a screw driver in ther and pry it off with a screwdriver

Hope this helps
Jim
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Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 17:28:12 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Sci.Electronics.Repair FAQ"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Rear discs??

You (Dave Armbruster) wrote:
> I *may* have an idea as to the reasoning behind staying with drums,
> especially on the Rangers. When you set the parking brake on a disc
> brake, it would be much weaker than one on a drum. Could come down to
> utility, like parking with a boat/trailer or unpaved, non level grades,

Other ideas are:

* the actual "business" surface area is a LOT larger on the drums
that translates to longer service life and more friction - that's
the job, let's not forget :-)
* piston is further removed from the area of the action - heats
less and needs service less
* the shoes move on a pivot, reducing pressure needed
* drums don't warp as much as disc brakes... so less bad vibes
on long, steep hills... bonus if towing a heavy trailer!

Heck, with all those, I _want_ drums :-)

Take care.

P.S. But, yuppies want "disc + ABS" so I'm sure Ford will give
in one of these days ;-)
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Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 18:26:44 EDT
From: SNOOP22222 aol.com
Subject: FTE Small - Play in the steering wheel (about my truck)

94 ranger 2wd w/ 40K miles. Seemed to happen after getting an allignment
done.
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Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 17:36:55 -0500
From: Cory Sticha
Subject: FTE Small - Re:

I've got a '92 Ranger that I put a aftermarket radio in. I think the '90
and the '92 are pretty much the same truck. Anyhow, the first thing I
did was open the ashtray and remove the Torx screws in there. After
removing the screws, just pull on the bottom of the panel and start
prying it up. I ended up removing the whole panel, but it was worth it.

Karl Johns wrote:
>
> I was hoping some one out there might be able to give me some
> information. I have a 90' ranger and would like to remove the
> radio but there is a moulding which goes around the climate
> controls, radio and around the instrument panel. I can't seem to
> find how it comes off. Any info would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks
>
> Karl
> 90' ranger 4x4 137000miles
> 74' f100 4x4 106000miles
>
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Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 19:28:26 -0400
From: "Jerry Dean"
Subject: FTE Small - Carlisle Show

Anyone from the list planning on attending the All Truck Nationals in
Carlisle, PA in two weeks? If so, will it be for the show field or just to
browse and look?

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Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 19:40:34 +0000
From: Garr&Pam
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Carlisle Show

Anyone from the list planning on attending the All Truck Nationals in
Carlisle, PA in two weeks? If so, will it be for the show field or just
to browse and look?

I might if anyone can give directions...just to look. I have a 94
Lightning
Thanks
Chris Kelly
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Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 18:44:02 -0500
From: Jonathan Smith
Subject: FTE Small - Re:

Check at a local parts store for the Hayne's or Chilton's manual
for your truck. I have an 89 Bronco II and according to my Haynes
manual you have to remove the trim (it covers the instrument panel too)
and then use a special Ford "radio removal tool" to take out the
radio. The screws that hold in the trim are PROBABLY along the bottom
edge and in the instrument panel. You'll need a T-15 (I think)
hex screwdriver too. Ford apparently likes to use weird fasteners &
custom tools- ARGH! :>


Karl Johns wrote:
>
> I was hoping some one out there might be able to give me some
> information. I have a 90' ranger and would like to remove the
> radio but there is a moulding which goes around the climate
> controls, radio and around the instrument panel. I can't seem to
> find how it comes off. Any info would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks
>
> Karl
> 90' ranger 4x4 137000miles
> 74' f100 4x4 106000miles
>
> digest
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Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 20:13:04 -0400
From: daner
Subject: FTE Small - 5.0L Ranger conversion

Hi everyone, I'm dropping a '90 5.0L into my '89 Ranger Custom Ext-a-cab. I
will be getting the crank back Friday, it needed to be turned 10 thousand.

I am wondering if anyone else has dropped a EFI 5.0L into a ranger?

Any help would be appreciated.


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Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 21:32:12 -0400
From: "Jerry Dean"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Carlisle Show

Where are you coming from?

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Date: 3 Jun 1998 19:58:42 EDT
From: Hawk sktc.net
Subject: FTE Small - radio removal

SM>I was hoping some one out there might be able to give me some
SM>information. I have a 90' ranger and would like to remove the
SM>radio but there is a moulding which goes around the climate
SM>controls, radio and around the instrument panel. I can't seem to
SM>find how it comes off. Any info would be appreciated.

SM>Thanks

SM>Karl
SM>90' ranger 4x4 137000miles
SM>74' f100 4x4 106000miles

Hi Karl,
It's been awhile since I had one out, but I'll give it a shot. Take out
the ash tray and ash tray bracket assembly (2 screws). Look on the
lower LH side of the molding for another screw, may or may not be one, I
can't remember. The rest of the molding is stuck on with plastic
fasteners, gently pry it off. Start on the ash tray side bottom and
work up and to the left. A/C vents, light switch, etc. stay on the
dash. The radio is clipped in. There are 2 holes on each side of the
radio where the special tool goes to release the clips. The tool is the
best way, but I worked mine out with a probe and a small screwdriver.
Be real careful taking off the molding, it always semed like it could
break easily.
Good luck,
Buck Shoff


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Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 00:12:34 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE Small - Please nominate Ford Truck Enthusiasts

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It sure would be nice to win #1 twice!

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