small-list-digest Tuesday, June 2 1998 Volume 02 : Number 153



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In this issue:

RE: FTE Small - RE: FTE 3.0 will beat your Diesel VW
Re: FTE Small - RE: FTE 3.0 will beat your Diesel VW
Re: FTE Small - Ticking possibly solved
FTE Small - 2000 RPM?
Re: FTE Small - Aerostar oil pump
Re: FTE Small - My rear window for sale

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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 07:28:40 -0500
From: John Cassis
Subject: RE: FTE Small - RE: FTE 3.0 will beat your Diesel VW

Acording to the title on mine its GVW is 3200 not 4000. But I find this
hard to believe. I just dont think your running it hard enough. Either that
or something is either wrong with your truck or you've modified it in such
a way as to affect your gear ratio , ie. you've put taller tires on it and
this has made the truck a slug, especialy on hills. In any case I still say
you guys are way to harsh on the 3.0. I'm not saying it the best or most
powerfull motor, but I am saying it has decent power and is overall a
pretty decent motor. All of you guys could stand to cut the 3.0 a little
slack here. What rpms were you running your truck when you did the
comparison? Was it in its optimum torque range? I believe that that would
be around 3000 - 3500....correct me if I'm wrong on this. But if you were
going up hill lugging the motor than sure its a dog, but if you keep in a
decent rpm range I just dont see the vw diesel passing it up.

John Cassis
93' STX 4x4 3.0/5-speed
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From: Diana Slyter [SMTP:dianas primenet.com]
Sent: Friday, May 29, 1998 11:17 PM
To: 'small-list ford-trucks.com'
Subject: RE: FTE Small - RE: FTE 3.0 will NOT beat a 4.0L

My experience comes from running the two vehicles down similsr roads and
noting that the 3.0's passing acceleration, hill climbing ability, etc. is
about the same as the VW diesel. For example, the diesel will pull a 3
percent upgrade at 75 mph, and an 8 percenter at about 50 mph. The 3.0 can
barely better these figures. Why? The VW can probably deliver at least 90
percent of it's 52 hp to the road thanks to it's low parasitic losses. A
recent magazine test reported that the 3.0 delivered only 85 or so hp to
the road. The VW weights 2400 pounds, the Ranger nearly 4000. Go figure...

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On Fri, 29 May 1998, John Cassis wrote:

> Not to get into a pissing match but get real. Either that or get your
foot
> in it. It's comment like that about the 3.0 that give people the wrong
idea
> about the motor. If your diesel VW is faster than your 3.0 Ranger maybe
you
> should take it in and have it tuned up.
>
> John Cassis
> 93' STX 4x4 3.0/5-speed
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diana Slyter [SMTP:dianas primenet.com]
> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 1998 10:57 PM
> To: small-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: Re: FTE Small - RE: FTE 3.0 will NOT beat a 4.0L
>
> I own a 3.0 Ranger, and it's barely faster than my 52 horsepower VW Golf
> Diesel. The Ranger needs to two or three stops for gas for every one the
> diesel makes, so overall performance is about identical.
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Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 09:02:57 +0000
From: Garr&Pam
Subject: Re: FTE Small - RE: FTE 3.0 will beat your Diesel VW

Acording to the title on mine its GVW is 3200 not 4000. But I find this
hard to believe. I just dont think your running it hard enough. Either
that or something is either wrong with your truck or you've modified it
in such a way as to affect your gear ratio , ie. you've put taller tires
on it and this has made the truck a slug, especialy on hills. In any
case I still say you guys are way to harsh on the 3.0. I'm not saying it
the best or most powerfull motor, but I am saying it has decent power
and is overall a pretty decent motor. All of you guys could stand to cut
the 3.0 a little slack here. What rpms were you running your truck when
you did the comparison? Was it in its optimum torque range? I believe
that that would be around 3000 - 3500....correct me if I'm wrong on
this. But if you were going up hill lugging the motor than sure its a
dog, but if you keep in a decent rpm range I just dont see the vw diesel
passing it up.


93' STX 4x4 3.0/5-speed

A 4x4 STX only weighs 3200....My 2 wheel drive regular cab Splash
weighed 3500! The 3.0 is a reliable motor no doubt about that...it also
does fine when mated to the 5 speed...but mate it with the auto and it
leaves something to be desired. As for the vw my dad owned a rabbit
diesel once and you would be surprised at what that little car could
do..yes I believe it holds its own against a 3.0, gets 45-50 mpg, and
unstoppable in the snow....Too bad the bodies rusted out so badly
though.
Chris

My experience comes from running the two vehicles down similsr roads
and noting that the 3.0's passing acceleration, hill climbing ability,
etc. is about the same as the VW diesel. For example, the diesel will
pull a 3 percent upgrade at 75 mph, and an 8 percenter at about 50 mph.
The 3.0 can barely better these figures. Why? The VW can probably
deliver at least 90 percent of it's 52 hp to the road thanks to it's low
parasitic losses. A recent magazine test reported that the 3.0 delivered
only 85 or so hp to the road. The VW weights 2400 pounds, the Ranger
nearly 4000. Go figure...
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Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 11:28:41 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Ticking possibly solved

At 02:08 AM 6/1/98 EDT, you wrote:
>Hey
>Treatment, I have been driving for a little while and all is quiet..I also
>have been considering trying "Motor Up" does anyone have any opinions on
this
>product...
>Thank you
>
>Jim
>A much quieter 90' Ranger

Go to the web site, click Misc and look for the snake oil article.
Its a real eye opener about these "oil treatments."

Ken Payne
http://www.ford-trucks.com


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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 14:37:33 EDT
From: SFBurke51 aol.com
Subject: FTE Small - 2000 RPM?

After reading the last two weeks postings I'm not sure I should be here, all
the others are about BIG engine discussions. All I've got is an '89 Ranger
XLT with a 2.3L four-banger (8 plugs), 5 speed.

BUT...
I recently had the head gasket replaced (THREE broken head bolts). About
half of the time the darn thing kicks like hell when in the 2000 RPM range
(1800-2300). Acts like a massive missfire or like when you're in the wrong
gear for startup.

My mechanic said to change my shift points to avoid the problem but 55MPH is
right in the same range and around here that's the normal running limit.

The weird (to me) thing is, after I start it , it either gives me problems
for that entire drive or gives me no problems. There appears to be no hot or
cold running temp correlation. Sometimes if its hot it wil act up, sometimes
when its cold.

I've tried reprogramming the engine computer by disconnecting the battery (3
times) but no apparent improvement.

Any Ideas?, or do I need to replace the computer?

Steve

I thought maybe the computer has a particular function around 2000 RPM but
can't seem to find the answer
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Date: 1 Jun 1998 22:02:44 EDT
From: Hawk sktc.net
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Aerostar oil pump

SM>Sooooo....... where is this pressure regulator located? Is it part of the o
SM>pump? Seems like someone out there would have had this problem with a 2.9 if
SM>that is what it is. Any takers?
SM>D Baken
SM>= Ford Truck Enthusiasts

The pressure regulator is just a spring loaded relief valve located on
the oil pump. You said that your oil pressure guage had 2 positions
when running, middle (lifters rattle), and high (lifters fine). The two
distinct and re-occurring guage positions sounded to me like a sticking
regulator (sticking closed when the oil pressure is high). Someone else
posted the same thing, but his spring broke and he had low oil pressure.
These problems are realitively rare, and I brought it up as a general
diagnosis, not a particular problem or weak spot on a 2.9. If you
haven't already done so, you need to verify the fluctuating oil pressure
with a manual/master guage.

I guess you have me somewhat confused. In one post you say you want
advice on rebuilding the engine, replacing it, or putting in a 302. In
another post you say that you have a cam and lifters on order. Now it
seems as though you are still looking for that magic fixit button. I
think the proper order of things is to have the problem or problems
diagnosed properly. This might not be possible to be done in this
forum, I'd hate to have you spend alot of time or money to drop the pan,
and find nothing wrong with a regulator valve, but it is possible that
it is the problem. After a good diagnosis, then decide what to tear
down and then decide weather to rebuild or replace. I guess what I'm
trying to say is that you have been given some good advice by several
list members, but that is all any of us can do, the rest is up to you.
Good Luck,
Buck Shoff

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Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 00:09:56 -0500 (CDT)
From: Diana Slyter
Subject: Re: FTE Small - My rear window for sale

I looked at how the window is installed and it appears to be bonded in or
something like that. Unless there is a way I can install it myself, I
don't think I'll be able to use it. Sorry, and thanks for the offer.

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On Fri, 29 May 1998, MR JOSH J TENNEY wrote:

> Are you still interested in my rear slider out of my '98?
>
> Josh
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