small-list-digest Friday, May 29 1998 Volume 02 : Number 149



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In this issue:

FTE Small - Aerostar oil pump:
FTE Small - RE: FTE 3.0 will NOT beat a 4.0L
Re: FTE Small - RE: FTE 3.0 will NOT beat a 4.0L
FTE Small - RE: Ranger Smog Problems
FTE Small - Re: Ranchero List
Re: FTE Small - Aerostar oil pump
Re: FTE Small - RE: FTE 3.0 will NOT beat a 4.0L
FTE Small - Ticking
Re: FTE Small - Aerostar oil pump

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Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 13:52:10 -0600
From: "S. HALL"
Subject: FTE Small - Aerostar oil pump:

I just wanted to share my experience with you (D Baken)
Before you decide to replace your engine. I had about 121k on
my 87 2.9 when one of the lifters "froze" resulting in a bent
rod. I decided to replace the engine after the mechanics told me it
was cheaper then a new set of head(s). The new (reman) engine has
a 36k warranty (not worth a damn since it only covers parts and if
any go out I think they'll try and claim it was installed wrong!).
After 4.5k on the new engine I'm not entirely pleased: The lifters
make noise at startup (for a few seconds anyway) everytime I start
it and recently the truck started smoking at startup -Not what I was
expecting out of my new engine! I guess what I'm saying is that if you
end up replacing it try and go through Ford. In the hands of someone
who knows what they're doing you might get the 302 in there for cheaper
but keep in mind the axles/transmission etc might not handle all that
power too well. I can also tell you (if you haven't already been there)
that www.ford ranger. com has a message board thats lots of help. (In particular
theres a gentleman by the name of Pat on the list specializing in 2.9 liters
and their quirks). I can tell you where my "new" engine was purchased if you
want as well as the details of the replacement procedure. I hope this helps
and let us know if you opt for the 302 -I wanna know what a V8 in a Ranger
does to that "thrill" factor!!

-Sam

(shall nmsu.edu)
(1987 Ranger XLT 4X4 supercab)

p.s. I've also been warned (by other list members) not to be
"suckered" into buying a new engine when it wasn't necessary
- -thought I'd pass this along also ;-)
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Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 18:36:42, -0500
From: KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)
Subject: FTE Small - RE: FTE 3.0 will NOT beat a 4.0L

Even though you added your exhaust, wires, filter, chip, and Turbo
air system, I highly doubt your 3.0 Auto can get close to my 4.0L
stick 4x2. I'd love to try it some day, but chances are you don't
get to the Twin Cities to often. One question....what rear axle
ratio do you have spinning those 235/75R15's? Those are taller than
stock 4x2 tires, which sill slow down acceleration. I don't want to
get into a pissing contest, I was just stating my opinion.

Josh
KNBD87D prodigy.com
'98 XLT reg cab, 4x2 4.0L, 5 speed manual, 3.55 LS, 255/45HR17, 2.5"
cat back
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Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 19:29:34 -0400
From: "Joe Merchak"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - RE: FTE 3.0 will NOT beat a 4.0L

I have the stock rearend (84 I think). All I can tell you, if I want to, I
can smoke those puppies without power breaking and that is with my cap on.
cap weighs close to 250lb has allot of windows) Truck is not really too
good in the snow or rain though.

As you Josh, I dont want to get into a pissing match about this. I just
wanted other people to know that the are alternatives to the 4.0L. The 4.0L
is a very good engine but I could not handle the extra cost when I bought my
truck. If you remember also, my truck's engine has the experimental CAM
that came directly from Ford (discussed this about 2 months ago on this
board). Maybe that has something to do with it also.


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From: MR JOSH J TENNEY
To: small-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Thursday, May 28, 1998 6:37 PM
Subject: FTE Small - RE: FTE 3.0 will NOT beat a 4.0L


>Even though you added your exhaust, wires, filter, chip, and Turbo
>air system, I highly doubt your 3.0 Auto can get close to my 4.0L
>stick 4x2. I'd love to try it some day, but chances are you don't
>get to the Twin Cities to often. One question....what rear axle
>ratio do you have spinning those 235/75R15's? Those are taller than
>stock 4x2 tires, which sill slow down acceleration. I don't want to
>get into a pissing contest, I was just stating my opinion.
>
>Josh
>KNBD87D prodigy.com
>'98 XLT reg cab, 4x2 4.0L, 5 speed manual, 3.55 LS, 255/45HR17, 2.5"
>cat back
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Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 16:38:39 -0700
From: "Pete Lawless"
Subject: FTE Small - RE: Ranger Smog Problems

Chris Henderson wrote:
>The smog tester said that it is running rich both in idle and at 2,500
RPM.

Before you spend too much money on parts lean it out and try it again at a
different test facility. Just like a doctor, you CAN get a second
opinion... they shouldn't charge for the test if you don't pass. Number one
clue that you may have a shyster on your hands is when he tells you that
"the majority of the Fords with that engine do not pass!" That's a bunch of
bull! Sounds like he's trying to use his smog cert. facility to generate
some parts and labor business.
I had my newly rebuilt, moderately modified 2.9 Ltr truck smogged last
fall. It doesn't pass, first time in its 9 yrs. Guy calls me up... he tells
me I need new plugs and wires... "hummm..." I tell him "that's funny,
they're brand new". "Ohhh", he says, "than maybe its the timing or
the....". I broke in and said that the truck had just been rebuilt so don't
adjust or replace anything until I get there. By the time I get there he
says he thinks it might be the O2 sensor... we look at it... it looks fried
(probably got whacked when we installed the new headers/exhaust system) he
replaces it... truck passes with flying colors as always.

Anyway, you might take a look at your O2 sensor... they do go bad.

Later.... Pete


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Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 20:59:27 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE Small - Re: Ranchero List

>Subject: FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: Ranchero list?

>Anyone here think a Ranchero list would be a good idea?

There is already a Fairlane, Ranchero & Torino list in operation if anyone
is interested.

To s*bscribe go to: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.dfwmotorsport.com/Fairlane

Chuck Colvin
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.CoolRides.com/CR001.html




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Date: 28 May 1998 20:17:14 EDT
From: Hawk sktc.net
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Aerostar oil pump

SM>Something in my 2.9 is affecting the oil pressure itself though. The sender
SM>wouldn't change the pressure to the lifters. The gauge seems to only have tw
SM>positions, one that is in the normal (middle) range and the lifters rattle,
SM>and one that is in the high range and not a sound from the lifters.I am
SM>thinking of replacing the engine but it doesn't use any oil and runs good wh
SM>the pressure is in the high range. I am interested in any opinions that migh
SM>help me decide which way to go. Or maybe I should just stick a 302 in her?
SM>D Baken

Sorry, I re-read your original post and found that I gave the correct
answer to a question that you didn't ask. Used to happen to me in
school all of the time. Hehe. Seriously, I shopped around a few years
ago and found a junk yard 2.9 for $800 and put it in myself. It went in
good, started good, and just ran good. No complaints. Please note, I'm
not telling you to buy a junk yard motor, I'm just telling you what
worked for me.

>From what you describe, it sounds like a sticking pressure regulator
valve to me.

Buck Shoff













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Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 22:57:23 -0500 (CDT)
From: Diana Slyter
Subject: Re: FTE Small - RE: FTE 3.0 will NOT beat a 4.0L

I own a 3.0 Ranger, and it's barely faster than my 52 horsepower VW Golf
Diesel. The Ranger needs to two or three stops for gas for every one the
diesel makes, so overall performance is about identical.

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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 00:36:03 EDT
From: FrdRngrLvr aol.com
Subject: FTE Small - Ticking

Ok I have a 90 with the 2.9, she has now got a tempemrntal tick, when she rns
up past 45 she is fine, for the whole day but, it is almost like the oil is
not getting spread around eneough, but the kicker it that after she runs at
highway speeds for a while she starts to do it agian and then it takes a while
for her to calm down agian..Anyu Ideas?

Thank you
Jim
90' Ranger
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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 05:00:34 EDT
From: Bakend aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Aerostar oil pump

In a message dated 5/28/98 8:10:48 PM Mountain Daylight Time, Hawk sktc.net
writes:

>
> From what you describe, it sounds like a sticking pressure regulator
> valve to me.
>
Sooooo....... where is this pressure regulator located? Is it part of the oil
pump? Seems like someone out there would have had this problem with a 2.9 if
that is what it is. Any takers?
And yes it appeared that you had the right answer to the wrong question and I
have lots of experience doing that my self!
D Baken
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