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In this issue:

FTE Small - Temp & Hubs
FTE Small - question on best shocks and tune up
FTE Small - Knocking in front hub
FTE Small - Tranny fluid
Re: FTE Small - Knocking in front hub
[none]
Re: FTE Small - question on best shocks and tune up
Re: FTE Small - question on best shocks and tune up
FTE Small - RE: Dana 35
FTE Small - Ranger SC rear window fixed
FTE Small - URGENT!!!
Re: FTE Small - URGENT!!!
Re: FTE Small - Auto Hubs
FTE Small - questions
Re: FTE Small - questions
Re: FTE Small - RE: Dana 35
Re: FTE Small - questions
Re: FTE Small - questions
FTE Small - Front locker
Re: FTE Small - questions
FTE Small - ADMIN: Community Service Opportunity
Re: FTE Small - Front locker
FTE Small - ADMIN: April archives

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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 07:43:19 -0500
From: John Cassis
Subject: FTE Small - Temp & Hubs

Thanks for the replies on the temp. of my truck I will check it out =
afterwork today, as for the hubs......no takers? Yesterday while in =
trafic it started popping again. I pulled into a parking lot engaded the =
4x then disengaged it, backed up to unlock the hubs and it went away. =
Kind-of scarey. I feel like I'm waiting for something to grenade. If it =
does sounds like the warn manual locking hubs are the way to go. Anyway =
like I said thanks for the advice.

John Cassis
93' STX 4x4 3.0/5-speed
Texas is a State of Mind
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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 08:09:07 -0500
From: Eric Egler
Subject: FTE Small - question on best shocks and tune up

Hi all,

I have a 92 Explorer 4x4 XLT with 42,000 miles. The shocks are way
gone. Lot's of bouncing all over. I need to replace them quick.

I don't do a lot of off-roading, mainly use the 4WD in winter. I want a
firm and responsive ride, and want to reduce sway, etc. I read
somewhere about Tockiko (sp) shocks really giving a good ride. Any
other suggestions? Thanks.


Also, I plan to do a full tune up. Plugs, wires, tranny, diffs, etc. If
anyone could provide advice in this area also.

Sincerely,
Eric
mailto:eegler earthlink.net
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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 10:12:33 -0500
From: "T.J. Spampinato"
Subject: FTE Small - Knocking in front hub

Hey has anyone ever heard of or had a problem with a clacking noise
coming from thier front end when they make turns. I have had this
problem since I bought the truck ('87 bronco II used) over 5 years ago.
I think it is coming from the hub but everything still works great, and
it only does it on right turns. It sort of sounds like a stone rolling
around in a tin can, and it gets louder, the harder and faster I take a
turn (offramps). This is really more of an annoying thing, so far the
truck is running great(195,000mi.) and I did not have to do anything to
it yet except regular maintanence. A side note on getting rear ended,
some little teenie bopper hit me last christmas in a little chevy car.
She was doing about 25 and hit the left corner bumber it bent in a
little, but crushed her car. I used a backhoe to pull it out w/ a chain
it looked fine untill I got the insurance money and replaced new dual
tube smittybilt's front and rear (tank). Sorry for the long talk any
help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
T.J.

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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 10:06:27 -0400
From: Chuck Anderson
Subject: FTE Small - Tranny fluid

I'm getting ready to service the trans in my 90 Bronco II. It's an
overdrive automatic. My question is how much fluid does the trans hold?
Chuck Anderson

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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 10:15:40 -0400
From: luxjo thecore.com
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Knocking in front hub

Are these auto locking hubs??

OX
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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 07:57:43 -0700
From: Keith Srb
Subject: [none]

Does anybody know of a place to get replacement parts for a sliding rear
window, or do you have to replace the entire window?

The Latch on my Slider has broken off.

Thanks!

Keith Srb herbie netvalue.net
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.netvalue.net/herbie
Mesa, AZ
1986 Ford Bronco II, 2.9L (I HATE LITERS) V-6, Mitsubishi 5-Speed.
1980 Harley Davidson, XLH, Rebuilt from the frame up.
1974 Ford F250 Ranger XLT, Camper Special, 390ci 4bbl, Automatic, Long Box,
Style Side.
1966 Ford F100, 240 C.I. Straight Six, Model 1100 1bbl carb, Oil Bath Air
Cleaner, Warner T-18 4-Speed, Short Box Style Side.
My Blood runs "TRUE BLUE FORD on Four Wheels and Pure HARLEY on Two Wheels!"
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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 08:13:59 -0800
From: Thom Cheney
Subject: Re: FTE Small - question on best shocks and tune up

Eric Egler wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I have a 92 Explorer 4x4 XLT with 42,000 miles. The shocks are way
> gone. Lot's of bouncing all over. I need to replace them quick.
>
> I don't do a lot of off-roading, mainly use the 4WD in winter. I want a
> firm and responsive ride, and want to reduce sway, etc. I read
> somewhere about Tockiko (sp) shocks really giving a good ride. Any
> other suggestions? Thanks.


a friend put the Tokiko shocks on his Toyota 2wd. He said they were way
too stiff & replaced them pretty soon after.

TC

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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 10:31:47 -0500
From: Mike Krause
Subject: Re: FTE Small - question on best shocks and tune up

Eric-
I own a '91 Explorer XLT and I replaced the shocks a little less
than a year ago with Monroe Sensa-trac. In my opinion, these aren't
really too good of shocks. I'm planning on putting on Bilstien during
the summer. Also, I'm planning on changing out all the bushings as
well. On the tune-up, I've done most of the stuff you're planning on
doing. The plugs, wires, tranny and diff. fluid. Contact me via e-mail
if you want any advise. Good luck with everything.
Mike Krause

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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 09:01:58 -0700
From: "Pete Lawless"
Subject: FTE Small - RE: Dana 35

Matt wrote:
>I have decided to dump my dana 28 axle for the 35. What rangers is it
>available in. I've haerd just in 4.0L rangers and I have also heard any
>from 90 and up.

I believe you're correct on both accounts... Dana 35's were used with 4.0
ltr Rangers and the 4.0 ltr's debut was in 1990. You can also use a Dana 35
taken from an Explorer... they're both the same. I'm preparing to do the
same swap. I read (posted by an experienced source) on another BBS that the
Dana 35's from a '93-'94 Explorers came with beefier u-joint knuckles on
the axles (???) Someone on this list may be able to verify that
information.

Later.... Pete

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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 13:21:25 -0400
From: "Anthony Rifici"
Subject: FTE Small - Ranger SC rear window fixed

Just to let everybody know how the squeaking/chafing problem with my
slider rubbing up against the cab is finally fixed

We took out the rear window. It showed visible signs of chafing on the
top and bottom edges on the outside of the cab where the window makes
contact. The whole top edge had been leaking, which I did not know about.
There were salt stains on the top side of my headliner. The sealer put on
when the window was originally installed by Ford was in the wrong place on
top and bottom passenger side edges.
After cleaning the two surfaces, the window was lined on the edge with
1/2" 3M double-stick tape (for body side moldings). A new string of sealer
was put on the cab, then a bead of whatever glue glass shops use was put on
top of the sealer. The window was re-installed and torqued down.
After it was finished we took it for a ride over all the bumps curbs and
uneven pavement we could find, twisting the hell out of the cab. The
plastic door panels were squeaking loudly, but the window didn't make a
sound. Two days later, it still hasn't made a sound.
1 of 3 annoying squeaks solved. Next, the steering knuckle and the
interior door panels. I want a quiet Ranger by mid-June.

Later,
Tony
'94 Ranger SC, 4.0L, 5-Speed, Quiet rear window.



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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 13:49:33 -0500
From: Mike Krause
Subject: FTE Small - URGENT!!!

I recently posted a question on my starting problems on my '91 Explorer,
but failed to get a reply. Now the problem has a new twist. Today when
I started it up for the first time it sounded like something knocking
and grinding near where the starter is. It's done it time and time
again and I NEED HELP!!!! I recently replaced the started, but now I'm
worried that it might be the flywheel or something associated with it.
PLEASE, someone help me on this. I don't want to take it to some
Jack $$ so he can rip me off and I need to save some money. Thanks to
all those willing to help.
Mike Krause

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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 16:32:53 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: FTE Small - URGENT!!!

At 01:49 PM 5/20/98 -0500, you wrote:
>I recently posted a question on my starting problems on my '91 Explorer,
>but failed to get a reply. Now the problem has a new twist. Today when
>I started it up for the first time it sounded like something knocking
>and grinding near where the starter is. It's done it time and time
>again and I NEED HELP!!!! I recently replaced the started, but now I'm
>worried that it might be the flywheel or something associated with it.
>PLEASE, someone help me on this. I don't want to take it to some
>Jack $$ so he can rip me off and I need to save some money. Thanks to
>all those willing to help.
>Mike Krause
>

Do you have the old starter that died the first time? If so,
what is the condition of the teeth? Starters use a softer
metal than the flywheel so they'll go before the flywheel
gear. It could be that your flywheel is the problem, the
only way to really tell is to look at its teeth. Or your
starter could be misaligned. I'm not sure about the Explorer
since I don't own one but some starters have shims to align
them. Do you have a shop manual to document the replacement
procedure?

Ken


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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 17:49:50 EDT
From: Bakend
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Auto Hubs

In a message dated 5/19/98 2:16:25 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
Blest25913 aol.com writes:

>
> I still have the two bad auto hubs that it cost me $700 to replace. The
next
> time the auto ones go bad I will replace them with manual. Even with the
> conversion kit it will only cost me 1/3 of that amount.
> Is it possible to convert from manual to auto? Wouldn't you need to put in
> all
> the electronics to switch the hubs?
>
There are no electronics involved with the front hubs.The auto simply lock in
when rear wheel slip is sensed. Then they don't unlock until you back up a
considerable distance. I prefer to choose when my hubs are locked in or out.
With the manual hubs I can use the low range in my truck and not have the hubs
engage even if I spin a wheel. I found that the auto hubs were locked in more
often than I wanted because I didn't have time to back up (or patience) and
unlock them. Now with the manuals I only lock them in when I anticipate
needing them. If I misjudge the road conditions then I do have to stop and
lock them in. (Hopefully not on my way to a job interview with the front wheel
dropped into a mud bog) It is stricly a matter of preference for me.The new
manual hubs cost 150.00 including the adapter and took about an hour to change
out both sides. The auto hubs were making a clicking noise when I replaced
them and I don't know if that means they were about to go out or not, but if
someone on this list wants them they are in Denver. They came from a 1987
Ranger with 2.9.
D Baken
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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 18:02:47 -0400
From: David
Subject: FTE Small - questions

I have a few questions I hope that someone may be able to answer.
1) I was looking through some old car guide and I noticed that some of the
early rangers and Bronco II were avaliable with a diesel engine. Does
anyone know any specs on this engine. In addition I was wondering when the
ranger was first offered
with four wheel drive.

2)In the same guide I noticed that there was a trim line called "XLS". How
does this differ from the XL or XLT packages?
I have also seen a 89-92 Ranger running around town that has the word
"Custom" where the XLT badge usually goes. Any ideas on this?

3)What affect does removing the sway bars on a truck have? How can the
stock sway bars be removed? I've seen lots of aftermarket sway bars for
sale how do they differ from the stock ones?

4)I rarely use th air in my truck. Would removing the airconditioner pully
from the serpentine belt have any affect on gas mileage or performance? I
have seen some aftermarket pullies that say they can increase HP by
reducing the friction of the
belt. Do these actually work? If so are they worth the investment?

When I was hit in the rear bumper, the car hit me on the driver's side
corner. I did not leave any permenent mark or dents
or at least ones that I can see. Generally I park with the parking brake
on however the morning I got hit I did not have it on. Finally does anyone
have any experience with aftermarket bumpers? How do they hold up compared
to the stock bumpers?

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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 15:47:43 -0800
From: Thom Cheney
Subject: Re: FTE Small - questions

David wrote:
>I
> have seen some aftermarket pullies that say they can increase HP by
> reducing the friction of the
> belt. Do these actually work? If so are they worth the investment?


The only ones I have seen are a different diameter than stock. They are
available through the Ford Motorsport catalog & probably some
aftermarket houses (Vanir?). They do net a few hp, apparently, but the
smaller diameter (at least I think it is smaller), makes the alternator
& water pump turn slower, thereby affecting your cooling and
electrical. If you installed them on a vehicle that spent a lot of time
at very slow, but torque intensive applications AND running lot of
electrical... say 4x'ing at night with some extra lights, you might get
into trouble. Otherwise, I think they are on the short list for stuff
you can do to the outside of your engine to make you go faster.

good luck...

TC
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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 15:57:51 -0700
From: KDRESSEL
Subject: Re: FTE Small - RE: Dana 35

Are the Dana 35 in all of the 90 up rangers or just the 4.0 rangers?
would a 91 with a 2.3 liter ranger have one for an example?

Matt Dresselhaus
1986 ranger 4x4
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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 18:52:40 +0000
From: Garr&Pam
Subject: Re: FTE Small - questions

David wrote:
>
I have a few questions I hope that someone may be able to answer.
1) I was looking through some old car guide and I noticed that some of
the early rangers and Bronco II were avaliable with a diesel engine.
Does anyone know any specs on this engine.

All I know is that its a 2.0 but I will check my book tonight and give
you the specs on it if you would like.


In addition I was wondering when the
ranger was first offered with four wheel drive.

When was the first ranger introduces..was it 83...if so I think the 4 by
come out in 84!

2)In the same guide I noticed that there was a trim line called "XLS".
How does this differ from the XL or XLT packages?

I have also seen a 89-92 Ranger running around town that has the word
"Custom" where the XLT badge usually goes. Any ideas on this?

3)What affect does removing the sway bars on a truck have? How can the
stock sway bars be removed? I've seen lots of aftermarket sway bars for
sale how do they differ from the stock ones?

Sway bars help keep the tires flat while cornering while adding a little
firmness to the ride. Aftermarket sway bars are usually bigger and have
polyurethane bushings. All in all they give you better handling with a
LITTLE firmer ride but not too firm. My Splash with front and rear sway
bars was awesome I could get mustangs, camaros in the corners...too bad
I had the 2.3 cause I got burnt after the turn!!! In my honest opinion
my Splash handle better than my Lightning does now but tell the guys on
the Lightning list I said that!!!

4)I rarely use th air in my truck. Would removing the airconditioner
pully from the serpentine belt have any affect on gas mileage or
performance? I have seen some aftermarket pullies that say they can
increase HP by reducing the friction of the belt. Do these actually
work? If so are they worth the investment?

Aftermarket pullies are smaller thats why you get more power and they do
work. Any time you come remove belt driven accesories(other than a
supercharger) you are going to gain some power...now how much I don't
know. Try running a belt for your truck without ac and see if you notice
a difference.

When I was hit in the rear bumper, the car hit me on the driver's side
corner. I did not leave any permenent mark or dents or at least ones
that I can see. Generally I park with the parking brake on however the
morning I got hit I did not have it on. Finally does anyone have any
experience with aftermarket bumpers? How do they hold up compared to the
stock bumpers?

Why dont you replace it with a rollpan..looks much better.. or maybe a
tube bumper.

Hope I helped
Chris
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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 16:06:40 -0700
From: KDRESSEL
Subject: Re: FTE Small - questions

David wrote:
> I have also seen a 89-92 Ranger running around town that has the word
> "Custom" where the XLT badge usually goes. Any ideas on this?

I believe that "custom" is usually base model.


> 3)What affect does removing the sway bars on a truck have? How can the
> stock sway bars be removed? I've seen lots of aftermarket sway bars for
> sale how do they differ from the stock ones?

On my ranger I took off my rear sway bar to give me more wheel travel
while offroading. As far as for on road handling I haven't notice a
difference. Although I don't drive it like it is a mustang. The rear on
my 86 came off by taking off 2 bolts and 2 u-bolts.

Matt Dresselhaus
1986 ranger 4x4
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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 16:12:31 -0700
From: KDRESSEL
Subject: FTE Small - Front locker

I have thought of "welding up" my front axle to act as a locker. Has
any one done it. My friend did it to his YJ and has had no problems with
it and has done Jack hammer sledge hammer and terra del sol along with
10000 miles of daily driving activities?

Matt Dresselhaus
1986 ranger 4x4
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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 21:58:54 EDT
From: Jckarkka
Subject: Re: FTE Small - questions

In a message dated 98-05-20 18:04:27 EDT, perfgauge xtalwind.net writes:


early rangers and Bronco II were avaliable with a diesel engine. Does
anyone know any specs on this engine. In addition I was wondering when the
ranger was first offered
with four wheel drive.
>>
I believe the Diesel was produced by Mitsubishi. It was available in the mid
80's, around 83 thru 85 or 86. I is described in the '85 shop manual as a
2.3L, turbocharged, 4 cycle, water cooled, overhead cam engine with siamesed
bores and drilled coolant slots between the cylinders. It is an IDI
(prechamber) design engine.

It is not mentioned in the '88 light truck specifications manual. I see
Rangers with the Diesel option occasionally, but have never seen a BII with a
Diesel.

It was introduced around the same time as the original 6.9L in the F250-F350
series trucks and the BMW inline six in the Lincoln Mark series. The Ranger /
Mitsu option was never popular, probably because of the low power level
typical of small displacement, imported Diesels of the period.

Rumor has it that Ford got stuck with a warehouse full of leftover, unsellable
engines when the product was discontinued.
alan K-88 BII, etc
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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 22:11:04 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE Small - ADMIN: Community Service Opportunity

At the Pigeon Forge show, some of us discussed the idea of becoming involved in community activities. Well, here is our first opportunity to show our stuff. Please see the email we received below.

Ken is going to send Ms. Edsall some information on the history of the Ford truck. Anyone else who would like to participate, please send your mail directly to her, but be sure to mention that you are a list member so she will know where the mail is coming from.
Thanks in advance for your time.

Peggy Payne
Coadministrator, Ford Truck Enthusiasts

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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 22:19:55 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Front locker

At 04:12 PM 5/20/98 -0700, you wrote:
>I have thought of "welding up" my front axle to act as a locker. Has
>any one done it. My friend did it to his YJ and has had no problems with
>it and has done Jack hammer sledge hammer and terra del sol along with
>10000 miles of daily driving activities?
>
>Matt Dresselhaus
>1986 ranger 4x4


You're going to eat up tires around curves if you do this.

Ken

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