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Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 04:00:23 -0400 (EDT)
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Subject: small-list-digest V2 #137
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small-list-digest Tuesday, May 19 1998 Volume 02 : Number 137



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Ford Truck Enthusiasts - Ranger, Explorer, Bronco 2 and Aerostar
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In this issue:

FTE Small - Sway Bars
Re: FTE Small - Auto Hubs
FTE Small - ADMIN: Pigeon Forge Report
Re: FTE Small - Tire Spring Rates
FTE Small - bumper
Re: FTE Small - bumper
Re: FTE Small - bumper
FTE Small - ADMIN: Milestone
FTE Small - Missed Azie!
FTE Small - Rear end gear ratio q's
FTE Small - rear end gear ratios

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Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 08:16:02 -0500
From: John Cassis
Subject: FTE Small - Sway Bars

Dont know who the guy was saying swaybars were for pavement pushers, but =
get real. Not all of us who own 4x4's off-road in the same conditions. I =
4x quite a bit, but its in the sand on the beach. My swaybars have no =
adverse affect here, and my truck handles like a dream on the highway. =
So maybe swaybars are'nt so bad for some types of 4 wheeling. Also I've =
driven a long bed ch%&y with a big block and no swaybars - talk about a =
hanfull. That truck handled like total sh%&! I have to agree with the =
guy who said that those engineers at Ford put them on the trucks for a =
reason.

John Cassis
93' STX 4x4 3.0/5-speed
2 1/2" Lift
31" BFG AT's
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Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 08:03:09 -0600 (MDT)
From: Keith Smith
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Auto Hubs

$45 at the junk yard (each).


On Sat, 16 May 1998, Andrew wrote:

> Hi all;
>
> I have a '87 4x4 Ranger. Are there auto hubs available for it
> (front). A guess is ok, or just a company to look into is ok too. Have the
> stock manuals now.
>
> Thanks
> Andrew
>
>
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Keith Smith, Senior Statician
Division of Government Research,
University of New Mexico 87131-6026
(505) 277-3305

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Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 12:30:40 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE Small - ADMIN: Pigeon Forge Report

Here's the Pigeon Forge F100 Supernationals report:

- - 31 list members showed up. One member came from New Zealand! That's
dedication!
- - Many photos taken! These will show up on the web site to arouse
a sense of jealousy (heh heh) in those who didn't attend. This
should increase the attendence next year! I took pictures that
represent every list catagory.
- - In the "I've died and gone to heaven" catagory: 427 SOHC, very rare,
beautiful sound (and very loud, you could hear it for a mile).
brrammmmm, brammmmmmm, brapppppp, brammm...... waaaaaa hoooooo!
- - Group photo was taken Saturday around 11. Most members where in it.
This will appear on the web site.
- - A new sense of direction, many of us sat down and talked about the
future of FTE. Expect us to be an "official club" soon (lists will
always be free). The future looks good.
- - I think those who attended will agree that it brought a real sense
of unity to our group.
- - Pat Ford, the show organizer, treated us extremely well. We had a
booth, inside (A/C!), right inside the front door. We had the best
location in the entire show. To those who have Pat's number, please
call him and thank him!
- - 350+ brochures given out!
- - Universal agreement from 61-79 list members who attended that Deacon
will be at next year's show, even if we have to tie him to the wing
of a plane! Deacon's presence was sorely missed!
- - Interest from vendors in sponsoring us.
- - We received an award for club participation! Hopefully this is
the first of many! I'm going to scan it in and put it on the
web site. Although it will hang on my wall.... we all deserve it!
- - We really are a first class group, it was really nice that many of
you were able to contribute to the "thank Pat Ford" fund. We had
a really nice engraved glass plaque made for Pat, using the 20th
F100 Supernationals t-shirt design for it with "From Ford Truck
Enthusiasts" on the bottom.
- - Many friendships solidified. The best part, to me, was being
able to finally meet so many of my friends for the first time.
A special thanks to those list members who've been lurkers
who read and are learning but hasn't been active posters. It's
its nice to know that you like us enough to travel to meet
everyone.
- - Parts, parts, parts.... and, you guess it, more parts.
- - Again, Deacon, you had to be there! I made sure I took many
photos of 73-79 trucks to give you a good reason to be there
next year!
- - I think we made a great impression with Pat Ford and let the
world know how nice our members are!

In attendance (let me know if I miss anyone, sorry for any
incorrect spelling):

Stu Varner Kristen Marcellus
Peggy Payne Ken Payne
Keith Srb Stephen Silverthorn
Barry Price Dan Herrmann
John Miller Ken Laffon
John Nioloni Paul Gayda
Jay Arnold Gary Bowling
Jeff Hoffman Jack M Hollback
Alan Akerstrom Hugh LaPenotiere
Michael Lowery Randall Dotson
Ted Freeman Don & Terri Neighbors (Grover!)
oftc choice.net (sorry, but I can't read your writing!)
Clive Pedersen (from New Zealand!) Clare Waterman
Jeff Bogart William G. Wood (Woody)
Brian Forbes Charlie Powell
Derek Hall

To those who've sent me email or have a problem needing to
be resolved, please be patient, I had 1428 emails waiting
for me Sunday night and another 180+ this morning. I will
get around to everything, but its going to take some time.
Please don't send multiple requests, it only makes it harder
on me and the wife.

I wish to take this opportunity to sincerely thank everyone
who attended. I really appreciate it!

Ken Payne
CoAdmin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
http://www.ford-trucks.com


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Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 08:08:53 -0800
From: Thom Cheney
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Tire Spring Rates

Richard wrote:

> Tires will have spring rates of their own. They are air-filled
> chambers, with resonant frequencies and harmonics, as well as the
> "bounce" rate of the assembly. The width of the steel belts will affect
> tread-edge wear and stability.

I can believe that, but my own experience has been that if I replace
tires with similar tread, compound and size, there has been little
difference in ride.

> In my tour of the neighborhood in an
> "oem"-equipped Aerostar, I noted how the (70-series) tires soaked up the
> small bumps: the numerous 1" potholes, manhole covers, etc. While I've
> had to let 1/3 of the spec air out of my (60-series) and they still hit
> those same bumps hard.

Bingo.... put the 70 series tires on for that cadillac ride. Aren't
the 70 series taller & cushier?

>
> PS: Are you related to my former teacher, Timothy Cheney, of Hartford
> Connecticut?

not to my awares.. most of us came from England directly to the wild
west & never crossed the Mississippi going east!

TC


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Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 16:55:43 -0400
From: David
Subject: FTE Small - bumper

>I love my Ranger but if this is FORD TOUGH I'd like to meet the person that
>thinks these trucks are TOUGH. I'm sure they are using the word to mean
>'Looks Great' not using the word TOUGH to mean 'Strong'.
>
Last week, while I was parked in the high school parking lot where I
attend. I was hit in the back bumper by a freshman who just got his
licence. He was probabally going between 3-5 MPH when he hit me. (I was
still in the truck when he hit me) The front of his CH**Y was dented in.
My rear bumper only sustained a scuff mark where some of the plastic on his
bumper rubbed off. The mark came off by scraping at it with my fingernail.

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Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 16:08:25 -0500 (CDT)
From: Filip M Gieszczykiewicz
Subject: Re: FTE Small - bumper

You (David) wrote:
> >I love my Ranger but if this is FORD TOUGH I'd like to meet the person that
> >thinks these trucks are TOUGH. I'm sure they are using the word to mean
> >'Looks Great' not using the word TOUGH to mean 'Strong'.
>
> Last week, while I was parked in the high school parking lot where I
> attend. I was hit in the back bumper by a freshman who just got his
> licence. He was probabally going between 3-5 MPH when he hit me. (I was
> still in the truck when he hit me) The front of his CH**Y was dented in.
> My rear bumper only sustained a scuff mark where some of the plastic on his
> bumper rubbed off. The mark came off by scraping at it with my fingernail.

It all depends on WHERE it was hit and what you level of PERFECTION is.
If you want a spotless truck with perfect CC and mirror-look rims, my
blessings. But don't ignore basic physics... that energy has to go
SOMEWHERE. Our saturn got zapped from behind by a woman talking on
the cell phone... he firebird needed a new bumper and hood and we're
still running on the same bumper. Sure there is a scuff-mark on
it... but that's what bumpers are for >-)

[unrelated pet peeve]

What gets me about the Bronco[II] series is the lack of a head-rest.
For tall ones like me, that means certain whiplash in any type of
collision... I imagine Rangers have the some problem? I can't image
how Ford got away with that....

Take care.
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Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 17:23:23 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: FTE Small - bumper

At 04:55 PM 5/18/98 -0400, you wrote:
>I love my Ranger but if this is FORD TOUGH I'd like to meet the person that
>thinks these trucks are TOUGH. I'm sure they are using the word to mean
>'Looks Great' not using the word TOUGH to mean 'Strong'.
>

Sometimes the angle and location of the hit can make all the difference
in the world. I hit a BMW with noticably thin sheet metal with my
4700 lb 1967 F100 which has very thick metal and a heavy bumper. Her
bumper was hit dead on, mine was hit at angle to the frame rail.
Very minor (visible) damage to her car, $900 to my truck. My bumper
took all the impact in one small area, bent back and pushed on the
fender. Her car took the impact across the entire bumper.

Go check out the crash results on the competition, especially
the Tacoma and you'll be glad you bought American.

- -Ken Payne



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Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 17:28:16 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE Small - ADMIN: Milestone

Another FTE milestone!

Last week we had our 200,000th visitor on the web site. Our first
100,000 visitors took 11 months, our second 100,000 took less than
4 months!

Thanks everyone!
Ken Payne
CoAdmin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 23:26:16 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE Small - Missed Azie!

Opps! Missed someone! Azie Ardmore (am14 chrysler.com) was also at
the F100 Supernationals.

Ken Payne
CoAdmin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 00:04:58 EDT
From: Mlovett214
Subject: FTE Small - Rear end gear ratio q's

In a message dated 5/18/98 8:26:01 AM !!!First Boot!!!, owner-small-list-
digest ford-trucks.com writes:

>
All ford rear ends have a tag on the outside attached by on of the rear cover
bolts! You should be able to see a number on it familiar w/ gear ratios 355
273 410 373 etc. That will answer your question on the ring and pinion.
Mike(97 ranger)
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Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 09:08:07 -0700
From: Richard Salitra
Subject: FTE Small - rear end gear ratios

I asked that question of my local dealer's parts dept for my '98
Ranger. they told me that there is a metal tag attached to the rear end
(there was on mine) which will tell you what gear ratios you have and
whether it's a locking rearend. on mine the tag had 3L73 as part the
code which means that I've got a locking rear differential with a 3.73
gear ratio. hope that helps.

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