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In this issue:

FTE Small - 91-92 Explorers
FTE Small - Re: Better Brakes for Explorer
Re: FTE Small - better brakes for explorer for towing bass boat
FTE Small - RE: Rear Explorer bumper
Re: FTE Small - After-market HOODS for RANGER
Re: FTE Small - After-market HOODS for RANGER
FTE Small - Ranger among the Broncos
FTE Small - Ranger Brake upgrade --HELP
Re: FTE Small - Ranger Brake upgrade --HELP
Re: FTE Small - After-market HOODS for RANGER
Re: FTE Small - After-market HOODS for RANGER
FTE Small - Explorer Brakes
FTE Small - Explorer Brakes
FTE Small - Ranger pinging
Fwd: FTE Small - 91-92 Explorers
Re: FTE Small - Ranger Brake upgrade --HELP
Fwd: FTE Small - Explorer Brakes
FTE Small - Explorer rear bumper

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Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 05:15:35 -0700
From: Mary McMahon
Subject: FTE Small - 91-92 Explorers

Hello, my 84 Bronco 2 has served me faithfully for over 11 years, now
we're looking into getting an Explorer for our expanding needs and
family. I was hoping any of you who have owned 91-92 Explorers could
tell me of any potential problems areas to watch for when I'm shopping.
We also hope to be able to pull a boat (18 foot ski boat) with it, I
have seen Explorers pulling boats of this same size so they must be
capable... thanks in advance for any suggestions and advice. Mary
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Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 08:23:17 -0400
From: Noah.Karl oscsystems.com
Subject: FTE Small - Re: Better Brakes for Explorer

Ding,

I believe you're going in the wrong direction with the brake issue (4 wheel
discs with ABS--I don't know if you can get any better than that). I just
bought a Coleman fold-up camper and my '91 Explorer handled pretty well.
Although my camper doesn't have brakes (it weighs less than 2000lbs),
brakes are offered as an option---that is electric brakes. My father has
electric brakes on his horse trailer and they work great. Maybe you can
check into electric brakes for the boat trailer. I know for the camper, it
was a viable option in terms of dollars, but I felt I didn't need it. I'm
sure you can get them for the boat, but at what cost, I have no idea (I'm
sure its cheaper than upgrading the Explorer, if you can).

Hopes this helps!
Karl M. Noah
'91 Explorer XLT
Gaithersburg, MD


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Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 08:39:59 -0400
From: Ed Yohe
Subject: Re: FTE Small - better brakes for explorer for towing bass boat

Your trailer brakes should provide all the extra braking you need when
towing it.
I tow something similar with my Ranger, and I don't even notice the trailer
when I am braking.
Maybe you could have somebody check out the trailer brake functioning.

> I have a 96 explorer and i now tow a pretty heavy bass boat in the 3500 to
>4000lbs area my truck is more than capable of towing this weight but it
>doesn't stop it very well...I have the allwheel disc and allwheel (abs)
system
>and in plain english it sucks. I used to tow it with a 92 explorer with rear
>drum and rear (abs) only and it stopped much better with a nice feel...I 've
>had my new truck re done and i have all new pads and resurfaced rotors all
the
>calipers work and it still doesn' t wanna stop...I've looked into aftermarket
>braking systems but they all run $2,000 area and they need 17" rims to fit
>them which means new rims and tires plus the better brakes which means about
>$5,000 to $6000 which i don't think so......Does anyone know of a better
setup
>for this truck i mean does ford have a better or bigger rotor and caliper
>setup....I do have the full tow package so i assume there is no extra brake
>package for the extra load......Any info is appreciated.

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Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 09:37:16 -0400
From: Barry Nestor
Subject: FTE Small - RE: Rear Explorer bumper

I just spoke with the shop and its not the brackets we are looking for but
the reinforcement bar that runs all the way across instead.

Regards,

Barry

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From: Barry Nestor
Sent: Monday, September 14, 1998 6:42 PM
To: 'small-list ford-trucks.com'
Subject: Rear Explorer bumper
Importance: High

Has anyone on this list by any chance had a bumper replaced
on a 91-94
(probably) Explorer Sport? I recently backed into someone
with my 91 and got
an estimate for the whole repair including the bumper. When
the shop took it apart they saw that not only was the bumper shell trashed
but its bracket assy (right on the inside) was as well. They ordered a new
bumper from Ford thinking the bracket would be included and it came in today
with no bracket but the dealer is not being of any help. My insurance
company wants to pay for it but according to the shop the part is not
documented in their crash estimation guide or by Ford.

I need my car back and the shop is getting frustrated - can
someone tell me what the part# is or where it can be found?

Thanks,

Barry
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Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 09:07:39 -0500 (CDT)
From: Robert Fox
Subject: Re: FTE Small - After-market HOODS for RANGER

Cervinis is only good for the 93 to 97. Someone posted where to get
aftermarket hoods for the 89 and later Rangers, but I forget where.

Robert Fox
95 Supercab Ranger
93 Supercab F-150
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On Mon, 14 Sep 1998, Garr&Pam wrote:

> daner wrote:
> >
> >
> > So I need a new hood for my 89 Ranger (same hood used for 89-92)
>
> try this http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.cervinis.com

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Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 10:14:07 -0400
From: "Russ Parker"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - After-market HOODS for RANGER

US Body Source in Hampton Florida sells some pretty beefy hoods for 83-92
rangers. They are available in stock or cowl induction. They are not cheap!
both are in the $300-350 range. They are VERY high quality though. You can
get their catalog by calling 352-468-2203

- -Russ

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Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 07:55:49 -0800
From: Thom Cheney
Subject: FTE Small - Ranger among the Broncos

I got back yesterday from an incredible Early Bronco weekend. I helped
organize the event & we were just amazed that over 100 vintage Broncos
('66-'77) attended.

I took my '97 Extra-cab STX Ranger. It performed "nearly" flawlessly in
the sand (after I aired the tires down to about 8lbs). The truck is one
year old, but I am still pretty careful with it & abstained from "dune
busting", jumps and some of the other stunts the trail and sand rigs
were attempting. Returned home sore, sunburnt & happy.

For anyone interested in seeing a Ranger among the Broncos, I'll be
posting pictures on the EarlyBroncoEnt site.

- --
Thom Cheney
Early Bronco Entertainment
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Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 10:47:10 -0500
From: Erik
Subject: FTE Small - Ranger Brake upgrade --HELP

I have a 94 Ranger SuperCab that im putting a 5.0 with AOD in that will
make
about 350 hp and 450 ft-lbs of torque... to replace the stock 2.3L with
5 speed

Now that im going to go much faster.. im looking to upgrade the brakes..

bigger rotors would be wonderful so would 4 wheel disc but i cant
seem to find them for the Ranger.... I upgraded the suspension..
and will upgrade to larger tires/rims after i upgrade the brakes..
so can any of you suggest anything or anyone that knows of how to fit
larger brakes on a Ranger or sells a kit that i can put on????
thanks very much
Erik

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Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 11:33:11 EDT
From: MindEfx aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Ranger Brake upgrade --HELP

I recall reading an article in a truck magazine that took the rear out of an
Explorer (which has rear disc brakes) and used it in his Ranger. I think too
that Downs Ford sells crossdrilled ventilated front discs for the
Ranger...check out there site at www.downsford.com Pus they will have all
other kinds of upgrades for the Ranger, and other fords too.

In a message dated 9/15/98 10:53:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time, cvg21 gte.net
writes:


make
about 350 hp and 450 ft-lbs of torque... to replace the stock 2.3L with
5 speed

Now that im going to go much faster.. im looking to upgrade the brakes..

bigger rotors would be wonderful so would 4 wheel disc but i cant
seem to find them for the Ranger.... I upgraded the suspension..
and will upgrade to larger tires/rims after i upgrade the brakes..
so can any of you suggest anything or anyone that knows of how to fit
larger brakes on a Ranger or sells a kit that i can put on????
thanks very much
Erik
>>
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Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 12:29:17 -0400
From: daner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - After-market HOODS for RANGER

FINALLY! - Thank you thank you!

US BODY has stock, cowl injection and MACH 1 ram air style hoods for 89-92.


Thanks guys and gals.


At 10:14 AM 9/15/98 -0400, Russ Parker wrote:
>US Body Source in Hampton Florida sells some pretty beefy hoods for 83-92
>rangers. They are available in stock or cowl induction. They are not cheap!
>both are in the $300-350 range. They are VERY high quality though. You can
>get their catalog by calling 352-468-2203
>
>-Russ
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Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 12:56:31 -0400
From: "Russ Parker"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - After-market HOODS for RANGER

I didn't know they had mach 1 for our generation! That hood is the sweetest
I've ever seen! I'll order it this week for mine. I put one of their hoods
on an 90 ch#vy for someone and it was much higher quality than Harwood.
- -Russ

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Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 13:27:50 -0400
From: "Butler, Rick"
Subject: FTE Small - Explorer Brakes

I race motorcycles, and tow a 7x12 trailer with my 1996 Explorer V8.
Without a doubt, the electric brakes on my trailer make all the
difference in the world. When I first bought the trailer, I did not
have the trailer brake hook up. I towed it about 300 miles while empty,
and wished I had more brakes. With the electric brake hook up, it made
all the difference in the world. Like a friend of mine said, it's like
dropping an anchor.

The trailer weighs about 1900 pounds; when loaded it is about 3300.

Don't know if this is an option, but I'd suggest trailer brakes for you.


Rick Butler
Atlanta, GA
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Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 13:27:50 -0400
From: "Butler, Rick"
Subject: FTE Small - Explorer Brakes

I race motorcycles, and tow a 7x12 trailer with my 1996 Explorer V8.
Without a doubt, the electric brakes on my trailer make all the
difference in the world. When I first bought the trailer, I did not
have the trailer brake hook up. I towed it about 300 miles while empty,
and wished I had more brakes. With the electric brake hook up, it made
all the difference in the world. Like a friend of mine said, it's like
dropping an anchor.

The trailer weighs about 1900 pounds; when loaded it is about 3300.

Don't know if this is an option, but I'd suggest trailer brakes for you.


Rick Butler
Atlanta, GA
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Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 15:44:05 EDT
From: Blest25913 aol.com
Subject: FTE Small - Ranger pinging

In a message dated 9/13/98 5:14:46 AM, you wrote:


more of a problem with 3.0 than either the 2.3 or the 4.0! Maybe its
that the 4.0 and 2.3 are designed to produce power(torque, what little
torque 2.3 has it comes under 2500rpms) during low rpms and 3.0(tauras,
tempo) being that its designed for a car produces its power at a higher
rpm so in the lower rpms it struggles a little under 2500 rpms or so!
Something to think about. Please no flames just an opinion!
Chris
94 F150 Lightning #381 red>>>>>>>

Thanks for the additional info.
Ron Trampe
Pinging 3.0 in '96 Ranger
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Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 18:55:37 EDT
From: Ding060297 aol.com
Subject: Fwd: FTE Small - 91-92 Explorers

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Mary .......I have owned a 92 explorer eddie bauer and i like it alot i also
towed a bass boat that weighed about 3500lbs and my truck was just about
capable of towing this weight due to my axle ratio of 3.27 with the right axle
ratio these trucks are capable of towing up to 5,000lbs with the tow package
equipeded....To find the axle ratio look on the drivers door edge for the
sticker that says axle there will be a number there thats a code and it
follows as 3.27 ==up to 3200lbs code ?
.3.55==up to 4200lbs code ? ----check your dealer
for those
3.73==up to 5000lbs code d4

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Hello, my 84 Bronco 2 has served me faithfully for over 11 years, now
we're looking into getting an Explorer for our expanding needs and
family. I was hoping any of you who have owned 91-92 Explorers could
tell me of any potential problems areas to watch for when I'm shopping.
We also hope to be able to pull a boat (18 foot ski boat) with it, I
have seen Explorers pulling boats of this same size so they must be
capable... thanks in advance for any suggestions and advice. Mary
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Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 19:00:12 EDT
From: Ding060297 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Ranger Brake upgrade --HELP

Baer racing out in i believe arizone has a awesome brake upgrade kit but it'll
cost ya about $2000 bucks and you also need bigger rims to fit these huge
rotors.......
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Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 19:05:02 EDT
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Subject: Fwd: FTE Small - Explorer Brakes

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Dear rick electric brakes sound good and i'm sure they work good but they
won't work for me due to the fact that i'm pulling a boat which means i dump
it in the water a considerable amount and that has a huge affect on electric
brakes.......i now have surge brakes which due work well they apply more
pressure to the trailer brakes as you apply more pressure to the trucks
brakes......Either way i noticed the first day i drove my new 96 explorer that
my brakes were harder to use and not as good as my prior 92 explorer with rear
drums........go figure and i've had my truck checked out and even re done and
no change plus the head of service told me that he doesn't like this set up
either because its all wheel discs they give a very spongy feel and thats
exactly what i was thinking...

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I race motorcycles, and tow a 7x12 trailer with my 1996 Explorer V8.
Without a doubt, the electric brakes on my trailer make all the
difference in the world. When I first bought the trailer, I did not
have the trailer brake hook up. I towed it about 300 miles while empty,
and wished I had more brakes. With the electric brake hook up, it made
all the difference in the world. Like a friend of mine said, it's like
dropping an anchor.

The trailer weighs about 1900 pounds; when loaded it is about 3300.

Don't know if this is an option, but I'd suggest trailer brakes for you.


Rick Butler
Atlanta, GA
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Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 22:38:57 -0400
From: "Wag"
Subject: FTE Small - Explorer rear bumper

I would try to call another Ford dealer in an adjoining town. It sounds to
me that you have under trained staff working on your vehicle. The parts....


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