small-list-digest Saturday, July 18 1998 Volume 02 : Number 200



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In this issue:

FTE Small - FW: BroncoII and Ranger Owners
Re: FTE Small - New '98 Ranger Questions
FTE Small - Wipers
FTE Small - Thunk solved?
Re: FTE Small - Sagging 1998 Explorer
FTE Small - Re; Towing
RE: FTE Small - Re; Towing
FTE Small - Re; Towing
FTE Small - controversy: oil change interval
Re: FTE Small - Transfer Case
FTE Small - 98 Ranger
Re: FTE Small - Re; Towing
Re: FTE Small - Transfer Case

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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 07:41:05 -0000
From: Michael Peacock
Subject: FTE Small - FW: BroncoII and Ranger Owners

This was a response to a request for BII and Ranger Double Low Transfer =
Case Developement

- -----Original Message-----

Dear Michael -

At this time, there is not enough of a call for this adaptation, and =
Advanced Adapters has no plans to start R & D. I'm told that utilizing =
the current Atlas would prove very expensive & time consuming.
It couldn't hurt to keep voicing your opinion, and getting your friends =
to do the same. Maybe someday there will be a majority, and enough =
cause for them to get something together for you.
Regards,

Pat Gremillion
Premier Power
Welder___________________________________________________________________=
___
_


>Build a 4 to 1 transfer case for Ranger and BroncoII Consumers! There's =
a
>lot of us out here!


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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 09:06:32 -0400 (EDT)
From: EI - Michael Ioco
Subject: Re: FTE Small - New '98 Ranger Questions

I too hear this whine from my 98 Ranger when accelerating, but I kind of like
it. It reminds me of the whine from driving powerful turbo-diesels. Since my
4.0 doesn't have the throaty rumble of a big american V8, I think of it as the
whine of sheer power! Mated to the new 5 Speed auto, it does feel like a ton of
power as well!

As far as the clunking, I haven't heard or felt that. Maybe though, it's the
same problem as on the F-150's. I brought the F-150 in for that problem and
they took care of it by replacing some parts in the rear end - I don't recall
exactly what.

Mike in Michigan
98 Ranger SC 4x4 ORP 4.0/5 spd auto
97 F-150 SC 4x4 ORP 4.6
96 Explorer 4x4 Sport

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> From owner-small-list ford-trucks.com Thu Jul 16 19:01 EDT 1998
> From: "Parker Brooks"
> To:
> Subject: Re: FTE Small - New '98 Ranger Questions
> Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 15:59:05 -0500

> hey dan,
>
> we have a '98 explorer with the 4.0 sohc v6 4x4 and 5-sp at. that bump
> you're feeling my very well be the tranny or transfer case. i just yelled
> over to my dad to ask him if he's ever noticed it, since it's his daily
> driver. he said no. but your truck is a lot lighter, so i might be more
> inclined to get more feedback from your truck that our explorer.
>
> and concerning that noise, i have a '98 windstar, and my dad had a '97 and
> now '98 explorer, and i swear, starting with the '97 model year, i think
> ford started to leave a vacuum hose disconnected cause of this nasal type
> whine that comes from the truck. we'll when i got the '98 windstar, it did
> the same thing, so we knew it must be normal. it's most noticeable from
> standstill to 10mph. and the '98 does it too. not sure what it is, but
> something new was started in '97.
> parker

>
> >
> >Hi Everyone.

> >
> >- There is a high-pitched whine that I hear when I'm on the highway at
> > 60-70MPH (~2200 RPM).
> >
> >- After driving for a while, when I come to a stop (at a light or in
> > my garage). There is a different high-pitched noise that sounds
> > like it's coming from the engine compartment. This one sounds
> > 'warbley', like it might be produced by a vibration somewhere.
> >


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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 09:52:27 -0400
From: "Michael T. DeLessio"
Subject: FTE Small - Wipers

Hello all,

I have a 94 Ranger 3.0 with a windshield wiper problem. The wipers stopped
working all together the other day, no motion at all just a clicking noise.
What I have done so far: Replaced the fuse- no change, replaced the wiper
motor- wipers still don't work but now it only clicks once when I turn the
wipers on. Any Ideas? I'm running out of obvious things to replace!

Thanks,
Mike D.

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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 10:56:00 -0500
From: "David Steelman"
Subject: FTE Small - Thunk solved?

Okay, here's the scoop.
I had written about a thunk/thud sound in my 98 XLT 4x4 3.0 5 spd man. The
first message read:

The noise didn't start until I had put about 3k on the truck. If I
accelerated real easy I could prevent it from happening, but under normal
driving conditions I had a thunk under acceleration and braking. I should
hear something soon so I'll pass along any info I get.

Here's what the service manager said when he called just now:
The mechanic discovered loose bolts on the transmission cross member (a
cigar goes to Parker Brooks) and loose u-bolts in the rear. Also, the drive
shaft slip yoke needed lube. The service manager said that the loose bolts
were "probably just things starting to break in."
I won't be able to pick up the truck until later tonight, so if all is not
well I'll rant and rave about it Monday.

Thanks for all of the suggestions I received. I hope this info is helpful
to some of you.

Dave
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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 07:07:27 -0500
From: "Parker Brooks"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Sagging 1998 Explorer

something else i don't like about the explorers, when you see then going
down the highway, it looks like they have a ton of crap in the back, with
the way the front end sits so high. wish they could have made it more level.


- -----Original Message-----
From: Mike Fisher
To: small-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Tuesday, July 14, 1998 6:49 PM
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Sagging 1998 Explorer


>John,
>
>My '97 AWD Mountaineer does the same thing. When I took it to the dealer
>for its 6000 mile service, I had them look at it. They claimed that they
>adjusted one of the torsion bars to get it back in spec, but it didn't
>change much.
>
>Take a look at other Explorers. They all do the same thing. They always
>lean to the left, and a lot of Rangers do the same thing.
>
>Mike Fisher
>
>Parnell, John wrote:
>
>> >Hi to all...
>>
>> I don't know if this went through the 1st time, so here it is again.
>> if duplicate, please excuse.
>>
>> >Does any one know if my 98 Explorer can be easily adjusted to make it
>> >sit level relative to a flat, level surface? It lists noticeably to
>> >the left when viewed from the rear. (It's under warranty but my
>> dealer
>> >wants to keep it all day and overnight (and no loaner!!)). I've
>> carefully measured
>> >various points on the frame etc. and it is about 1" lower on the
>> >left... Any simple wrenching to make it square?. Any serious comments
>> >out there? Thanks for any help.
>> >ONLY IN AMERICA does a homeless vet sleep in a cardboard box, while a
>> >draft dodger sleeps in the White House.
>> >Regards, John
>> >john.parnell solvay.com
>>
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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 17:23:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: Andrew
Subject: FTE Small - Re; Towing

Jonathan,
My experiences dictated that I use a larger radiator, HD hitch,
plus check your brakes for optimum performance, be sure to have trailer
brakes, a definite, must have, is trailer brakes. Also be sure your shocks,
especially the rear, are in good shape. Towing demands good shock absorbers
and adequate springing.
You might sub an additional electric fan for the radiator.

On one trip towing a 3.5-4 thousand pound trailer, which had no
trailer brakes, there was a near disaster. A BMW cut me off in traffic and
stopped in front of me. I was able to stop only by sheer luck. My brakes in
the Ranger were toasted, rotors warped, pads junk, rear shoes needed
replacement also. I checked them a few weeks before the trip and they were
fine. I was glad the tires were wider than stock and provided the traction
needed to stop. There have been 20 or so trips (120mi.) with this weight. I
now make sure the trailer has brakes.

My Ranger is a 2.9 and I simply use 5th gear sparingly also shift
at higher rpm's. Usually get a lot of use from clutches. This Ranger has
gone through three at 170K. Normally I get twice that usage out of a
clutch. Three of my other vehicles have gone over 130k with one clutch, it
must be the towing with this Ranger that uses them up faster, no towing was
done with the others.


Andrew

.....>Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 21:23:18 -0500
>From: Smith
>Subject: Re: FTE Small - Re:Towing w/ an 1989 Bronco II
>
>Thanks for all the towing tips- I've got a little more info on the
>trailer. I'd guesstimate the weight at ~1500 lbs (and that's probably
>an over-estimate). I'll think I'm going to
>add a Class III receiver & hitch ASAP. I may check on the radiator too.
>Anything else I should know about? Would a "load distributing kit"
>for the receiver be worth installing for a trailer this size?
>Any good web sites on camper ownership/towing? Thanks again for
>all the help!
>
>Pat Brown wrote:
>>
>> Jonathan Smith asked:.....


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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 16:47:12 -0700
From: cassis
Subject: RE: FTE Small - Re; Towing

Not to start a flame war but if its only 1500lbs I realy dont think trailer
brakes are nessesary. You could spend the money for them but not realy
nessesary with that light of a load.

John Cassis
93' STX 4x4 3.0/5-speed

- -----Original Message-----
From: Andrew [SMTP:showork mail.gwi.net]
Sent: Friday, July 17, 1998 2:24 PM
To: small-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: FTE Small - Re; Towing

Jonathan,
My experiences dictated that I use a larger radiator, HD hitch,
plus check your brakes for optimum performance, be sure to have trailer
brakes, a definite, must have, is trailer brakes. Also be sure your shocks,
especially the rear, are in good shape. Towing demands good shock absorbers
and adequate springing.
You might sub an additional electric fan for the radiator.

On one trip towing a 3.5-4 thousand pound trailer, which had no
trailer brakes, there was a near disaster. A BMW cut me off in traffic and
stopped in front of me. I was able to stop only by sheer luck. My brakes in
the Ranger were toasted, rotors warped, pads junk, rear shoes needed
replacement also. I checked them a few weeks before the trip and they were
fine. I was glad the tires were wider than stock and provided the traction
needed to stop. There have been 20 or so trips (120mi.) with this weight. I
now make sure the trailer has brakes.

My Ranger is a 2.9 and I simply use 5th gear sparingly also shift
at higher rpm's. Usually get a lot of use from clutches. This Ranger has
gone through three at 170K. Normally I get twice that usage out of a
clutch. Three of my other vehicles have gone over 130k with one clutch, it
must be the towing with this Ranger that uses them up faster, no towing was
done with the others.


Andrew

.....>Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 21:23:18 -0500
>From: Smith
>Subject: Re: FTE Small - Re:Towing w/ an 1989 Bronco II
>
>Thanks for all the towing tips- I've got a little more info on the
>trailer. I'd guesstimate the weight at ~1500 lbs (and that's probably
>an over-estimate). I'll think I'm going to
>add a Class III receiver & hitch ASAP. I may check on the radiator too.
>Anything else I should know about? Would a "load distributing kit"
>for the receiver be worth installing for a trailer this size?
>Any good web sites on camper ownership/towing? Thanks again for
>all the help!
>
>Pat Brown wrote:
>>
>> Jonathan Smith asked:.....


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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 15:04:06 -0700
From: "Alan Wilson"
Subject: FTE Small - Re; Towing

At 05:23 PM 7/17/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Jonathan,
> My experiences dictated that I use a larger radiator, HD hitch,
>plus check your brakes for optimum performance, be sure to have trailer
>brakes, a definite, must have, is trailer brakes. ...On one trip towing a 3.5-4
> thousand pound trailer, which had no
>trailer brakes, there was a near disaster. A BMW cut me off in traffic and
>stopped in front of me. I was able to stop only by sheer luck.
- ---

This may be a dumb question but what are Trailer Brakes and how much do they
cost?
Alan Wilson


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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 15:58:37 -0500
From: "Parker Brooks"
Subject: FTE Small - controversy: oil change interval

well, to start it all off with, my work van ('98 windstar) has ran pennzoil
performax since new. 5w30 is the variety. changed ~10K miles. runs like a
champ (3.8L bro to sho?? :) and now at 50K in 12 months, no consumption or
anything.

i like it!

Parker
- -----Original Message-----
From: Thom Cheney
To: small-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Wednesday, July 15, 1998 4:16 PM
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Questions about '98 Ranger


>Hey Mr. P..
>
>welcome to the wonderful world of Ford. I also "stepped up" from a
>Toyota to my '97 Ranger. I am crossing my fingers (til they turn Ford
>blue) that this truck is as reliable as the Toyotas... so far so good &
>I appreciate the "toughness" of the Ford along with the power. Car &
>Driver tested a bunch of trucks in this month's issue & even though the
>Ch*vy has more hp, they liked the hp & gearing combo of the Ranger.
>
>Like you, I thought about the spray in, but in the mild climate (meaning
>no salt on the roads) I live, the extra $350 was not worth it... I have
>an under rail penda & it seems to fill the bill just fine.
>
>I have also noticed the overzealous a/c situation. Most defoggers use
>the a/c becuase it dehumidifies the air (as I understand it). My vent
>switch also turns on the a/c when it is switched to upper & lower
>vents... not sure why & I was going to ask next time it is in for
>warranty work (since nothing else is wrong... don't know when that will
>be...). Not wanting the dash ripped apart, I am a little reluctant
>since it doesn't really bother me. If you get a better answer than
>"that's how Ford builds them" please share!!!
>
>Just to get a new controversial thread going... what is the list's
>opinion on oil changes again?.... I'm a 5,000 miler myself.
>
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Date: 17 Jul 1998 21:06:58 EDT
From: Hawk sktc.net
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Transfer Case

SM>If his is a 4x2 it's possible that he doesn't need oil either!

No, mine takes oil! Every transfer case that I have ever owned has
taken oil. All of them, until this one, have had drain plugs to get the
oil out. Hence the original post. It really ticks me off that Ford
didn't see fit to install a drain in these cases, and it ticks me off
that you would insinuate that I am trying to drain a dry box.
Buck Shoff

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Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 00:04:18 -0400
From: Ken Morrill
Subject: FTE Small - 98 Ranger

Ulysses, they said they tested my differential slop by jacking
up the rear axle, chocking one wheel, holding the drive shaft in
position, and rotating the remaining wheel. The rotational spec at the
tire is one inch. I had .75 inches so was "well within spec". I checked
a couple of other new rangers drive line play and drove one. They all
had the problem. So, based on that I suspect this problem is common. I
am concerned with the long term effects this will have on the drive
line. By the way, I work at Fairchild, my girlfriend at National
Semiconductor. If things don't pick up soon my truck problems will be
solved, I'll be walking!!!!

Ken

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Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 00:48:50 -0500
From: Jonathan Smith
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Re; Towing

Wow, I question I can answer!

Anyway- trailer brakes are simply.....brakes on the trailer!
On smaller trailers like a lot of campers and utility trailers
they are generally electrically operated. From the little
I know of trailers the small (
generally don't have/need them, up to around 2000lbs they help
but may not be a required item, over 2000lbs or so you need them
(if you're towing with something as small as a Bronco II- a full
size 1 ton util type pickup can stop a lot more than a Bronco II
and a Bronco II can stop a good bit more than a motorcycle. :>).

I'm sure there's lots more to it than that btw- that's just sort
of a nutshell explanation- for example, there are surge and
non-surge(?) brakes, air brakes, etc etc etc.
Alan Wilson wrote:
>
> At 05:23 PM 7/17/98 -0400, you wrote:
> >Jonathan,
> > My experiences dictated that I use a larger radiator, HD hitch,
> >plus check your brakes for optimum performance, be sure to have trailer
> >brakes, a definite, must have, is trailer brakes. ...On one trip towing a 3.5-4
> > thousand pound trailer, which had no
> >trailer brakes, there was a near disaster. A BMW cut me off in traffic and
> >stopped in front of me. I was able to stop only by sheer luck.
> ---
>
> This may be a dumb question but what are Trailer Brakes and how much do they
> cost?
> Alan Wilson
>
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Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 05:46:34 EDT
From: Bakend aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Transfer Case

In a message dated 7/17/98 9:29:01 PM Mountain Daylight Time, Hawk sktc.net
writes:

>
> No, mine takes oil! Every transfer case that I have ever owned has
> taken oil. All of them, until this one, have had drain plugs to get the
> oil out. Hence the original post. It really ticks me off that Ford
> didn't see fit to install a drain in these cases, and it ticks me off
> that you would insinuate that I am trying to drain a dry box.
> Buck Shoff
>
Hey Buck, Chill out! I'm sure your case takes oil, and there most likely is a
drain plug. I have never seen and can't even imagine what a transfer case
without gears would be for. Even with no gears it would have to oil the
bearings on the shaft, wouldn't it?....


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