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fordtrucks-small-digest Monday, March 9 1998 Volume 02 : Number 072



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In this issue:

Re: Warning Chime [Patrick Frazer ]
Cruise control for '91 Explorer [Ken St John ]
3.0L 5-Speed Rear Gear Ratio [RandalDGazdecki eaton.com]
Explorer Radius Arm Bushing... [Mike Krause ]
Re: ADMIN: Aerostars [Thom Cheney ]
Re: '97 Ranger tow hook placement [Thom Cheney ]
Front Tow Hooks! ["Andr E. Benguerel" ]
A good manual on the electrics! ["Andr E. Benguerel" ]
Out of round wheel? ["Andr E. Benguerel" ]
Re: ADMIN: Aerostars [Ken Payne ]
Re: Explorer Radius Arm Bushing... [Jordan ]
Re: Smitty Bilt Nerf'Em Bars [Mark Pawlowski ]
HTML [Blest25913 ]
Applause [Blest25913 ]
Re: '97 Ranger tow hook placement ["Bryce" ]
Re: Aerostar ["Pete Lawless" ]
RE: 2.9 Cam mod ["Pete Lawless" ]
RE: Exhaust Recomendations ["Pete Lawless" ]
Re: 2.9 Cam mod [HYDROSMITH ]
Re: Way to go Ken... [HYDROSMITH ]
Re: '97 Ranger tow hook placement ["Bryce" ]
Re: Smitty Bilt Nerf'Em Bars ["Bryce" ]
Re: Applause [Ken Payne ]
Re: Applause [thomas.panfili snet.net (Tom)]
3.0L 5-Speed Rear Gear Ratio [Hawk sktc.net]
nerf bars...again. ["Bryce" ]
Re: oil prices mileage and more....... ["Lou Guerriero" ]
Re: Aerostar [Diana Slyter ]

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Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 08:12:39 -0500
From: Patrick Frazer
Subject: Re: Warning Chime

> Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 20:49:23 -0600
> From: "Jose A. Castillo"
> Subject: Warning Chime
>
> I have a 95 Ranger XLT what decides once in a while to play the warning
> chime because it thinks the door is ajar, about 5+ minutes after the
> door has closed, sometimes much longer. The door ajar light comes on
> and the chime wails away. It seems to happen only when the ambient
> temperature gets warm, because it never happens when its cold outside.
> I am trying to figure out why, and if I can replace or repair the sensor
> or
> chime module. Any ideas would be appreciated???? The chime also wails
>
> when the key is moved to the accessory position without the door ajar
> light coming on????
>
> Anyone know of a good manual on the electrics on
> rangers, I have tried Haynes not much on electrics.
>
> I have come up with a quick fix, Play the music loud, but I'm looking
> for a more healthy solution (not going deaf). Any help would be
> appreciated.


I also have a '95 Ranger XLT that has trouble with the door switches.
In my case, it's the passenger side. The temporary fix was to uncouple
the connector behind the right kickpanel in the passenger footwell.
When I had time I ripped the door apart, wiggled the wires, shot the
latch/switch with WD-40 and tested the switch circuit with a VOM. Not
finding anything wrong, I reassembled everything and haven't had a
problem since. (knock on wood)

I suggest you concentrate on the door switches when looking for your
problem. (Unless, of course, the dome light stays OFF while the chime
stays ON) Unfortunately, Ford had to get cute and make them an integral
part of the latch mechanism and they're hard to get at.

- -P

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Patrick Frazer
Computer Engineer http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.beacon.com/~frazer
The Beacon Group

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Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 13:26:32 -0700
From: Ken St John
Subject: Cruise control for '91 Explorer

Does anyone know if the cruise control on a '91 Explorer relies on the
on-board computer or does it have its own electronics and is therefore,
isolated from the computer?
I suspect it runs through the computer just like everything else but I'd
like to know for sure.

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Date: 9 Mar 98 08:58:35 EST
From: RandalDGazdecki eaton.com
Subject: 3.0L 5-Speed Rear Gear Ratio

I don't know who asked, but someone wanted a better gear ratio for their 3.45 rear-end. Someone else commented that 3.73 works great in their splash. I got a mail-order quote from West Coast Differentials (http:\www.differentials.com\) for Ford original parts. Here's what it cost: R+P $182.80, Install kit $73.14, and TractionLock (Ford Limited-slip) $210.53 for a grand total of $466.47. Of course you have to do it yourself. Does this sound like a deal?? How much time do you think it would take?? Opinions welcome.

I am still waiting on the 5 forward gear ratio's on the Mazda tranny in my Ranger. Anybody know them???

Randy
randaldgazdecki eaton.com
Eaton Corporation, S.I.C.D.

"I'd rather be a failure at something
I enjoy than be a success at
something I hate."
-George Burns

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Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 08:13:37 -0600
From: Mike Krause
Subject: Explorer Radius Arm Bushing...

I've heard and now know that the passenger side radius arm bushing on
the older(91-94?) Explorer has a tendency to MELT cause it's so close to
the exhaust. A friend (who's mom owns a Limited) and I(who owns a '91
XLT) are going to change them out ourselves(b/c the dealership wants
like $400) and I was just wondering if anyone has done this before and
how hard and time consuming this is. Thanks.
Mike

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Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 07:51:33 -0800
From: Thom Cheney
Subject: Re: ADMIN: Aerostars

a mini... min....mi.... I can't even bring myself to type it! I
suppose the Aerostar is the Ranger/Explorer what the Econoline is the
F150 bunch. A truck is in the eye of the beholder. If an Aerostar
owner has something of merit to offer this list, by all means, let them
on.

TC

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Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 08:13:58 -0800
From: Thom Cheney
Subject: Re: '97 Ranger tow hook placement

YIASCA wrote:
>
come on FORD your starting to PI_S me off
> like this wimpy KEN PAYNE SITE

hey pal, no one is twisting your arm to stay subscribed. Please take
your whining elsewhere.

TC

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Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 09:21:08 +0000
From: "Andr E. Benguerel"
Subject: Front Tow Hooks!

> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 17:47:34 -0500
> From: "Lare/Eric"
> Subject: Re: '97 Ranger tow hook placement
>
> O.K. - so anyway, if anyone has put hooks on the front of a Ranger (because
> I DO push my truck beyond its limits and need pulled out of a sippy hole
> every now and again - & vice versa w/ my wheelin buds) .... where did you
> put them and how have they worked for you?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Eric Smith - '94 Splash SC, 4x4, 4.0L, 4" Trailmast, 32x11.5 BFG's

Eric, I have also thought about front tow hooks, here's two ideas. The
new 98' Ranger has front tow hooks as standard equipment on the 4X4.
They might fit on yours. I'm not sure where their placed but I imagine
in the grill attached to the bumper mounts. Second, I think Draw-Tite
now produces a Type II & III reciever for the front of a Ranger. This
along with the Warn H.D. two shackle would work great also.

Good luck,

Andre

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Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 09:25:04 +0000
From: "Andr E. Benguerel"
Subject: A good manual on the electrics!

> Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 20:49:23 -0600
> From: "Jose A. Castillo"
> Subject: Warning Chime
>
> Anyone know of a good manual on the electrics on
> rangers, I have tried Haynes not much on electrics.
>
> Castillo, Jose A.
> Dallas, Tx

Jose,

My first suggestion before attempting anything drastic is to obtain the
Ford Electrical-Vacuum Troubleshooting Manual for your particular
vehicle. A 95' Ranger manual is $30. They are availible from Helm
800-782-4356. Helm distibutes the factory manuals for Ford. The EVTM
covers much more than the Factory Service Manual ($160, also from Helm)
or the Haynes book.

Later,

Andre

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Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 09:39:21 +0000
From: "Andr E. Benguerel"
Subject: Out of round wheel?

> From: "Rio, Tony"
> Subject: Tire out of round.
>
> What is my best method for testing to see if I have an out-of-round
> wheel? I want to prove it to myself before I go get a new hub.
>
> Thanks!!!
>
> Tony Rio
> Allstate Enterprise Help Center
> PRC Analyst \ Integration Owner
> Trio1 Allstate.com
> (W) 847.402.9386


Tony, is it the tire or the rim? Your subject is tire, but you refer to
the wheel(rim). If it's the rim, and you would like to do it yourself,
here's an idea. You will need to unmount the tire, then affix the rim to
something that rotates perfectly staight. A good metal lathe arbor would
work. Then using a dial indicator, rotate the wheel by hand and note any
drastic changes in the dial reading. The wheel manufacture should supply
you with specs. on total wheel run-out. But if you have a metal lathe
and a dial indicator, you probably already know this! You can also take
it to a local shop that deals in good quality rims. Any rim that is
drasically out of round could be verified on a spinning wheel balancer.
Some race shops also offer this service. You may also want to look into
the mounting system (hub-centric, or lug-centric) and make sure the
wheel is properly balanced. The dial indicator can also be used to
measure the run-out of your hub.

Hope this helps,

Andre

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Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 14:51:41 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: ADMIN: Aerostars

At 07:51 AM 3/9/98 -0800, you wrote:
>a mini... min....mi.... I can't even bring myself to type it! I
>suppose the Aerostar is the Ranger/Explorer what the Econoline is the
>F150 bunch. A truck is in the eye of the beholder. If an Aerostar
>owner has something of merit to offer this list, by all means, let them
>on.
>
>TC

Its a tough issue. Minivans are used for different reasons than
trucks. Full size vans, however, usually have the same use, except
for conversion vans. I asked this question because I received 3 emails
in the last week about this and another person emailed a picture of
an Aerostar for the web site. Where do we draw the line? I don't
know. I own an Aerostar myself (wife drives it) and so do my neighbors.
But its used as a big station wagon. However, at the same time I would
benefit from the mechanical knowledge discussed here. Anyway you look at
it, its a two edged sword. So the question is, is it worth it? What it
radically change the character of the list? Would Aerostar owners feel
more comfortable on the Fordnatics list? Don't know. Should someone
start a minivan list? Maybe. One list only costs $5/month (not
including a host web site). I'm not willing to start another list,
both from a time and money stand point. If it doesn't happen here, I
can offer assistance setting up whoever is willing to take it on.

Later,
Ken

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Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 10:06:39 -0600
From: Jordan
Subject: Re: Explorer Radius Arm Bushing...

At 08:13 AM 3/9/98 -0600, you wrote:
>I've heard and now know that the passenger side radius arm bushing on
>the older(91-94?) Explorer has a tendency to MELT cause it's so close to
>the exhaust. A friend (who's mom owns a Limited) and I(who owns a '91
>XLT) are going to change them out ourselves(b/c the dealership wants
>like $400) and I was just wondering if anyone has done this before and
>how hard and time consuming this is. Thanks.
> Mike
Go to Deja News on the web and look up the bushings. This has been brought
up numerous times on the ford explorer newsgroup.

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Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 12:26:16 -0800
From: Mark Pawlowski
Subject: Re: Smitty Bilt Nerf'Em Bars

Smitty Bilt does NOT have a set of bars for your truck and they will not make
a set either. The ones for a 96 and lower won't fit and since things changed
for the 98's they did not make a set for the 97's. I ran into this problem and
ended up going with Westin for $278 installed (in Oregon). I'm not crazy about
the way they install, they are hooked up to the bolts near your frame not ON
the frame. I have a welder creating a new bracket for mine so I can bolt TO
the frame as Smitty does.

Good luck.
Mark

Bryce wrote:

> I was wondering if anyone has had experiance with Smitty Bilt Nerf'Em
> Bars?? I'm looking at the black bars that are about 66inches long for my
> '97 Ranger SuperCab 4x4. Are they any good? What's a good price on
> them?...I was quoted anywhere from $122 to $240 in my area. Also will the
> ones from a '94-96 Ranger fit on my '97. I think the part number that I
> was looking at was FN36NB.
>
> Thanks,
> Bryce
>
> Bryce's 4xFord Ranger Page
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.geocities.com/baja/2995
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Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 15:31:45 EST
From: Blest25913
Subject: HTML

In a message dated 3/8/98 6:48:05 AM, you wrote:


And hey everyone. .quit posting with HTML. It's aggravating!!!!!

Lou Guerriero
________________________________>>

Lou, what does 'posting with HTML' mean?

Ron

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Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 15:44:49 EST
From: Blest25913
Subject: Applause

In a message dated 3/9/98 6:47:17 AM, you wrote:


due to Ken.....Way to go.
Mike Krause
mkrause thewoodlandstx.com
>>

So do I. Thanks, Ken.
Ron

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Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 16:55:55 -0500
From: "Bryce"
Subject: Re: '97 Ranger tow hook placement

Ok...I think I have a place to put my tow hooks on the front of my '97
Ranger...presently, I have removed the fog lights, air dam (like the STX's
have) and other assorted hunks of plastic from my truck. I am now able to
get clean access the the steel parts in the front end of the truck. At the
front of my frame is a 1/4 inch bent piece of steel that is welded to the
end of the frame in 4 places with the shortest weld being about an inch
long...the brackets for the bumper bolt onto this. On the inside of the
frame, the 1/4 inch plate bends in a 90 deg angle and goes back about 3
inches. there are 2 bolts that mount the 1/8 inch thick bumper brackets to
this piece of 1/4 inch steel. Now what I plan on doing is removing the
lower bolt on the bumper bracket and replace it with a class 5 bolt and
drill another hole through the bumper bracket and the 1/4 inch piece of
steel (I think that this would make this even stronger haveing the 1/4 inch
and the 1/8 inch thick pieces working together) in front of it at the
correct distance for the holes in my tow hooks. This hole would be
slightly lower than the bumper mount hole so that the hook could be mounted
at an angle so that it didn't touch the bottom of the bumper (sort of at a
downward slope). I would then use a second class 5 bolt to run through the
front hole of the hook. After all this, I would put my fog lights and
assorted plastic do-dads back on my truck. This should work good with the
STX fog light and air dam or with the standard air dam removed since the
STX air dam has a hole in the top of the dam and the standard one goes with
the contour of the bottom of the bumper.. I'm not sure what type of
modifications it would take to put the standard air dam on. Comments???

As for the back ones...I think you can mount them where ever you drill the
holes in the back.

Bryce
Bryce's 4xFord Ranger Page
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.geocities.com/baja/2995

- ----------
> From: Lare/Eric
> To: fordtrucks-small ListService.net
> Subject: Re: '97 Ranger tow hook placement
> Date: Sunday, March 08, 1998 5:47 PM
>
> O.K. - so anyway, if anyone has put hooks on the front of a Ranger
(because
> I DO push my truck beyond its limits and need pulled out of a sippy hole
> every now and again - & vice versa w/ my wheelin buds) .... where did you
> put them and how have they worked for you?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Eric Smith - '94 Splash SC, 4x4, 4.0L, 4" Trailmast, 32x11.5 BFG's
>
> ?Ranger aren't meant to TOW, they are meant to fix up and drive the F_ck
> over
> ?Chevy's, so if your low and high it's cool, buy a f150 to tow not a
Ranger
> ?with it's wimpy 4.0 V6 like mine, and i hope you don't try it with the
3.0
> or
> ?even tonka toy 2.3, might blow a engine. I love ford's but their engine
> picks
> ?SUCK, put in a 5.0 or even 4.0l V8, come on FORD your starting to PI_S
me
> off
> ?like this wimpy KEN PAYNE SITE
>
>
>
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Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 15:19:31 -0800
From: "Pete Lawless"
Subject: Re: Aerostar

I just don't think questions like "How many grocery sacks I can fit in the
back of my mini-van?" or "Which baby car seat fabric will best match the
interior color scheme of my Aerostar?" will blend well with "How difficult
is it to drop a blown 460 into my Ranger?" The Aerostar boomers (God
bless'um) should have their own sight.

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Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 11:12:45 -0800
From: "Pete Lawless"
Subject: RE: 2.9 Cam mod

Hydrosmith:
Sorry for the delay in responding I've been out of town.

Prior to installing the cam shaft I had installed a computer module from
JET Performance. The module improved seat-of-the-pants horsepower quite a
bit on its own. It took several miles after installation for the computer
to "learn" the program. Once my rebuild was done and the new cam installed,
it seems to work quite well with the module. Horsepower and low end grunt
are vastly improved over stock. I'm running 35" BFG M/Ts with 4.56 gears
and if I put my foot into it, the big meats will spin. I had to swap out
the 7.5 rearend (ring&pinion too small) for the 8.8 with a posi.
By the way: when we got into the little 2.9 for the rebuild the engine
showed very little wear and was still not using any oil after 150,000+
miles of not-so-gentle driving (but good maintanance).

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Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 15:57:24 -0800
From: "Pete Lawless"
Subject: RE: Exhaust Recomendations

Keith,
I used the JBA headers for my '88 2.9 Ranger. Had to mod (slightly grind) a
small spot of frame on the passenger side so they wouldn't rub under
excelleration. I got the coated ones. I'm very pleased with them. They're
in front of 2 new hi-flow Cats, a Flowmaster, and 2 1/4" exhaust pipe out
the back. Sounds great.
Later, Pete Lawless

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Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:06:44 EST
From: HYDROSMITH
Subject: Re: 2.9 Cam mod

In a message dated 98-03-09 18:28:15 EST, you write:

Lawless5:



That's ok. Thanks for getting back to me.

Prior to installing the cam shaft >>

Where did the cam come from?

Tim

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Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:11:02 EST
From: HYDROSMITH
Subject: Re: Way to go Ken...

In a message dated 98-03-08 18:19:23 EST, you write:


about this site and Ford in general needed to be dealt with >>

I agree.Thanks once again Ken!

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Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:35:31 -0500
From: "Bryce"
Subject: Re: '97 Ranger tow hook placement

Sorry if this got posted multiple times...

Ok...I think I have a place to put my tow hooks on the front of my '97
Ranger...presently, I have removed the fog lights, air dam (like the STX's
have) and other assorted hunks of plastic from my truck. I am now able to
get clean access the the steel parts in the front end of the truck. At the
front of my frame is a 1/4 inch bent piece of steel that is welded to the
end of the frame in 4 places with the shortest weld being about an inch
long...the brackets for the bumper bolt onto this. On the inside of the
frame, the 1/4 inch plate bends in a 90 deg angle and goes back about 3
inches. there are 2 bolts that mount the 1/8 inch thick bumper brackets to
this piece of 1/4 inch steel. Now what I plan on doing is removing the
lower bolt on the bumper bracket and replace it with a class 5 bolt and
drill another hole through the bumper bracket and the 1/4 inch piece of
steel (I think that this would make this even stronger haveing the 1/4 inch
and the 1/8 inch thick pieces working together) in front of it at the
correct distance for the holes in my tow hooks. This hole would be slightly
lower than the bumper mount hole so that the hook could be mounted at an
angle so that it didn't touch the bottom of the bumper (sort of at a
downward slope). I would then use a second class 5 bolt to run through the
front hole of the hook. After all this, I would put my fog lights and
assorted plastic do-dads back on my truck. This should work good with the
STX fog light and air dam or with the standard air dam removed since the
STX air dam has a hole in the top of the dam and the standard one goes with
the contour of the bottom of the bumper.. I'm not sure what type of
modifications it would take to put the standard air dam on. Comments???

As for the back ones...I think you can mount them where ever you drill the
holes in the back.

Bryce
Bryce's 4xFord Ranger Page
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.geocities.com/baja/2995

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Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:47:15 -0500
From: "Bryce"
Subject: Re: Smitty Bilt Nerf'Em Bars

> From: Lare/Eric
> To: fordtrucks-small ListService.net
> Subject: Re: Smitty Bilt Nerf'Em Bars
> Date: Saturday, March 07, 1998 10:01 AM
>
> Bryce,
>
> I have the Smittybilt's on my '94 Splash SC - love 'em 'cause they hang
very
> close to the body - don't take away any ground clearance .... I got mine
for
> about $135 in PA ..... I also think they look better than any others that
> I've seen because they are the only ones that go beyond the supercab
(wheel
> well to wheel well) ... I'm not sure if they'll fit on a '97 ...... also,
I
> only had to drill two holes on each side (other 4 on each side used
existing
> holes in the frame/leaf spring bracket)

OK..my leaf springs and fame mounts seem to be rivited on, and not
bolted...are they this way on the '94s also?? if so, how did you get these
off?? if not, I guess that they won't work the same on a '97...

Bryce
Bryce's 4xFord Ranger Page
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.geocities.com/baja/2995

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Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 21:03:09 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: Applause

At 03:44 PM 3/9/98 EST, you wrote:
>
>In a message dated 3/9/98 6:47:17 AM, you wrote:
>
>
>due to Ken.....Way to go.
> Mike Krause
> mkrause thewoodlandstx.com
>>>
>
>So do I. Thanks, Ken.
>Ron
>

Thanks Guys (and Gals). Its appreciated. Now if I could only
get some of you over to prep my truck for the new paint job....
:^) just kidding.

Ken

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Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 02:10:22 GMT
From: thomas.panfili snet.net (Tom)
Subject: Re: Applause

On Mon, 09 Mar 1998 21:03:09 -0500, you wrote:


>Thanks Guys (and Gals). Its appreciated. Now if I could only
>get some of you over to prep my truck for the new paint job....
>:^) just kidding.
>
>Ken
>
Are you buying the BEER ???
(Windows:Just another pain in the glass!)

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Date: 9 Mar 1998 20:31:46 EDT
From: Hawk sktc.net
Subject: 3.0L 5-Speed Rear Gear Ratio

FO>I don't know who asked, but someone wanted a better gear ratio for their 3.4

FO>I am still waiting on the 5 forward gear ratio's on the Mazda tranny in my R

FO>Randy
FO>randaldgazdecki eaton.com
FO>Eaton Corporation, S.I.C.D.

Are you sure that you want to tackle installing and "setting up" a ring
and pinion? I only ask, because if you had the understanding of what
was involved you would know about how long it would take. If you do not
know what run out, preload, backlash, heel, toe, and pinion depth mean
in relation to set up, I would advise you to take it to a qualified shop
or individual. You might want to price parts while you are there, too.
I am not slamming you or knocking your mechanical ability, but from the
tone of your post, it just seems like you know just enough to be real
dangerous.
buck

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Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 22:28:26 -0500
From: "Bryce"
Subject: nerf bars...again.

Ok..since it looks like the Smitty Bilt Nerf bars don't work on a '97
extended cab, at least Smitty Bilt won't 'fess up to them working on a '97.
What ones will work on a '97 SuperCab 4x4????..I know that the Westin bars
fit, but I was wondering about other options...I was JC Whitless sells
some, but I'm not sure what brand they are...maybe I'll give them a call in
the morning...thanks,

Bryce
Bryce's 4xFord Ranger Page
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.geocities.com/baja/2995

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Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 00:50:56 -0500
From: "Lou Guerriero"
Subject: Re: oil prices mileage and more.......

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OK here's my reply....

1) Yes, US oil is subsidized, the gov't buys tons of oil every year, =
and
when prices rise, it sells off it's reserves to keep the price down. =
When
prices drop, the opec nations have to sell more oil to meet their cash
needs, and that makes prices drop more. That is called an indirect =
subsidy.
And it's true.

2) Canada was one of the first Nations to formally adopt the UN
resolution to Oust Saddam Hussein from Kuwait. For us, it was not about =
oil.
We have tons of the stuff here. And we were in the trenches. I am in =
the
military, I know. Perhaps because the US has over 10 times our =
population,
our contribution did not seem significant. Deserve more of it? Huh, I =
bet
the guys on the USS princeton might have a different view of your energy
consumption needs.. they were the ones that took a MINE just so you =
could
waste oil? Rather simplistic view.. but possibly right. Sorry, perhaps =
you
as an US citizen (which I have nothing against, My mom is US), forget =
that
there were over 30 countries involved in that conflict, trying to free
Kuwait. Which, by the way, was definitely about oil for George Bush!!! =
Who
has large personal oil interests in Ba'hrain... hmmmmm interesting eh?
Finally, taxes are higher in most countries on oil, due to the high cost =
of
cleaning up after it all the time, which the US doesn't seem to take =
into
affect... Not my policy.. just the way it is... Ok, enough of that.. we =
are
waaaaaay off subject.

3) As for the Jap/US vehicle thing... My friend had a toyota, I =
don't
remember the brand/number but it was 4WD, was jacked about 6 inches, had =
31
inch tires on a 6 cyl engine, and got 25 mpg city. Just a fact. I do =
agree
about the torque ... low end is important to many, but these days, =
people
buy trucks instead of cars.... just because... otherwise, they wouldn't
cost so much now!!!! Not so long ago trucks were almost given away, due =
to
the fact that most people looked at trucks as working vehicles only. Now
they are much more daily drivers for many more people.....

So... why don't they do something about the mileage? Ans: They =
don't
want to.

Anyway, no offence intended if anyone feels there is.... sorry!

Hope that doesn't fan the flames too hard!

Lou

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Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 00:54:45 -0600 (CST)
From: Diana Slyter
Subject: Re: Aerostar

Yeah, but I need the enclosed cargo space of the Aerostar to hide the mid
mounted 8V92 Detroit. Should still leave plenty of space behind the rear
axle for groceries and beer. Sorry that the Ranger can only accomodate a....


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