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fordtrucks-small-digest Monday, March 9 1998 Volume 02 : Number 071



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In this issue:

Re: hotrodding the baby bronco [Keith Srb ]
Re: hotrodding the baby bronco [Gardner ]
Re: Not a 302 but a 2.3 [mark fitzgerald ]
Re: fordtrucks-small-digest V2 #70 ["Lou Guerriero" ]
Re: Fordota [Ken Payne ]
Re: '97 Ranger tow hook placement ["Bryce" ]
Re: '97 Ranger tow hook placement [Ken Payne ]
Re: Fordota ["J. Oxley" ]
Re: '97 Ranger tow hook placement ["Lare/Eric" ]
Re: ADMIN: Aerostars [Robert Katsma ]
Way to go Ken... [Mike Krause ]
ADMIN: Digest topic filtering [Ken Payne ]
Re: Fordota [Bakend ]
Any Exhaust Recommendations? ('88 Bronco II, 2.9L , air/auto) ["Keith Chr]
Bed Cover and Mat [David ]
Re: Any Exhaust Recommendations? ('88 Bronco II, 2.9L , air/auto) [CNOEL ]
JACOBS [CNOEL webtv.net (Christopher Noel)]

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Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 04:30:18 -0700
From: Keith Srb
Subject: Re: hotrodding the baby bronco

At 10:27 PM 3/7/98 EST, you wrote:
>I have a 1990 Bronco II XLT 4x4. It has the 2.9, with 140 factory hp and
>105K. It has the automatic (anybody know which one?) which hasent been so
>much as looked at since 65k when we bought it. I'm looking to get more power
>without swapping, although it is a possibility. Does anyone know if i can
get
>a Mass Air conversion kit for the 2.9 ? And what about the rearend? is it
>the 7.5, 8.8 or 9.0 or something else? I know my truck has the 3.73s, it has
>the towing package.
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I looked into dropping a 302 into my 86 BII. I stopped looking when I found
out the adapter that I needed to bolt the BII Transfer Case to the T5
Transmission was $600.00 Ouch!


Keith Srbherbie netvalue.net
Mesa, AZ
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.netvalue.net/herbie/
1986 Ford Bronco II, 2.9L (I HATE LITERS) V-6, Mitsubishi 5-Speed.
1980 Harley Davidson, XLH, Rebuilt from the frame up.
1974 Ford F250 Ranger XLT, Camper Special, 390ci 4bbl, Automatic, Long Box,
Style Side.
1966 Ford F100, 240 C.I. Straight Six, Warner T-18 4-Speed, Short Box.
My Blood runs "TRUE BLUE FORD on Four Wheels and Pure HARLEY on Two Wheels!"

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Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 11:51:20 -0500
From: Gardner
Subject: Re: hotrodding the baby bronco

Rob782 wrote:
>
> I have a 1990 Bronco II XLT 4x4. It has the 2.9, with 140 factory hp and
> 105K. It has the automatic (anybody know which one?) which hasent been so
> much as looked at since 65k when we bought it. I'm looking to get more power
> without swapping, although it is a possibility. Does anyone know if i can get
> a Mass Air conversion kit for the 2.9 ? And what about the rearend? is it
> the 7.5, 8.8 or 9.0 or something else? I know my truck has the 3.73s, it has
> the towing package.
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The auto is a Ford...its the sticks that come form other companies!
Chris

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Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 09:18:59 -0800 (PST)
From: mark fitzgerald
Subject: Re: Not a 302 but a 2.3

hey..whatever floats your boat. Most of us run V8's because we need
the torque for 4 wheeling. i hate to tell you, but unless i'm whining
the hell out of a turbo 4, it's just not gonna turn the 38's or 40
inch tires. I'd much rather use the low end torque of a V8. My two
wheel drive ranger which i do drag also has a 302. it runs at 118 mph
in the quarter mile. I'm very satisfied with that. Let's see
now....how inexpensive is it to drop in a V8, a new trannie, and a
rear end into a truck? on the other hand, sending a four cylinder to a
machine shop to have an extra large bill constructed just isn't my
thing. if you want to run a four cylinder, all the glory to ya...just
don't be telling us how sick you are of hearing about V8's in rangers.

Fitzy

- ---WHRanger93 wrote:
>
> I am sick of all this talk about 302's. I was reading Trucking the
othere day
> and they had this article on some drag races competitions going on
some
> where. Anway they had all these truck and the times they ran. Now
the one
> that stuck out in my mind the most was not the supercharged 351
monster
> lightning that ran in the 12's but the tourbo 4-banger ranger that
rang in the
> mid 13's. Now that is impresive. That is technology. Consider a
new T/A
> runs 13.8 with a 350 producing 305 horse. This little 4-banger
could spank it
> with a 13.4. I would to love to have a sweet tourbo 4 that could
propel my
> ranger into the 14's let alone the 13's. When peole she you fast
machine and
> ask you what you got under the hood and you say oh just a 4 look at
their
> faces that would be a site to see. I remeber readingabout 2 months
agot on
> this list a bout a company the sells tourbo 4's supped up to around
250 horses
> does anyone know about this company or one like it ? I would love
to swap my
> 4.0 for a fast 2.3 or 2.5 tourbo that would put me into the 13's
Thanks
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Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 13:26:34 -0500
From: "Lou Guerriero"
Subject: Re: fordtrucks-small-digest V2 #70

Hey all,

I read somebody say that ford engines bite, and I'll have to agree...
although they "may" produce power, only the high end 5.0ltr and v-8 do
enough in that arena. When you look at the foreign cars/trucks, the
Japanese are making vehicles with smaller engines and more H/P!! Top it all
off, they get a sh*tload more mpg.... Why the hell is Ford still only
gettin 17 or 18 mpg on a new truck when a toyota does 25 mpg CITY???? Why?
Because the Gov't LET'S THEM.... I realize that mileage may not be AS big a
deal down in the US as here in Canada (or the rest of the world where oil is
NOT subsidized), but the rest of the world tries to conserve energy, even in
trucks.

I love ford... but when i need to replace my engine... my truck is going
to become a Fordota.

Lou Guerriero
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Web: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.echelon.ca/loug/
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Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 16:45:30 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: Fordota

At 01:26 PM 3/8/98 -0500, you wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> I read somebody say that ford engines bite, and I'll have to agree...
>although they "may" produce power, only the high end 5.0ltr and v-8 do
>enough in that arena. When you look at the foreign cars/trucks, the
>Japanese are making vehicles with smaller engines and more H/P!! Top it all
>off, they get a sh*tload more mpg.... Why the hell is Ford still only
>gettin 17 or 18 mpg on a new truck when a toyota does 25 mpg CITY???? Why?
>Because the Gov't LET'S THEM.... I realize that mileage may not be AS big a
>deal down in the US as here in Canada (or the rest of the world where oil is
>NOT subsidized), but the rest of the world tries to conserve energy, even in
>trucks.
>
> I love ford... but when i need to replace my engine... my truck is going
>to become a Fordota.
>
>Lou Guerriero

For some reason I foresee a flame war..... :^)

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Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 17:09:17 -0500
From: "Bryce"
Subject: Re: '97 Ranger tow hook placement

WHOOOOAAAAA!!!!!! let's not get off the subject here...the tow hooks are so
you can get pulled out or pull somebody else out that was unfortunate and
got stuck in some goo. I can pull a trailer just fine...not a 5th wheel
camper trailer, but something that fits into Fords specs for my
truck...And, yes I do have the 4.0L engine...and as far as I know, the 5.0L
engine isn't produced anymore and I don't think Ford ever made a 4.0L
v8..and If this list is starting to PO you, then uns*bscribe and go away!!
and if a site is POing you, then don't point your browser there...

Bryce
Bryce's 4xFord Ranger Page
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.geocities.com/baja/2995

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> From: YIASCA
> To: fordtrucks-small ListService.net
> Subject: Re: '97 Ranger tow hook placement
> Date: Saturday, March 07, 1998 8:53 PM
>
> In a message dated 98-03-07 20:48:15 EST, you write:
>
>
on
> either
> side of the spare tire directly on the frame. it's been a good
location but
> it''s kinda hard to get to. >>
>
> Ranger aren't meant to TOW, they are meant to fix up and drive the F_ck
over
> Chevy's, so if your low and high it's cool, buy a f150 to tow not a
Ranger
> with it's wimpy 4.0 V6 like mine, and i hope you don't try it with the
3.0 or
> even tonka toy 2.3, might blow a engine. I love ford's but their engine
picks
> SUCK, put in a 5.0 or even 4.0l V8, come on FORD your starting to PI_S me
off
> like this wimpy KEN PAYNE SITE
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Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 17:50:41 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: '97 Ranger tow hook placement

>Ranger aren't meant to TOW, they are meant to fix up and drive the F_ck over
>Chevy's, so if your low and high it's cool, buy a f150 to tow not a Ranger
>with it's wimpy 4.0 V6 like mine, and i hope you don't try it with the 3.0 or
>even tonka toy 2.3, might blow a engine. I love ford's but their engine picks
>SUCK, put in a 5.0 or even 4.0l V8, come on FORD your starting to PI_S me off
>like this wimpy KEN PAYNE SITE

Since you feel that way you obviously don't want anything to do
with us. You've been uns*bscribed (after this message so you
won't be able to reply to it) and your email address is now
filtered out so you won't able join us again.

Since either you aren't intelligent enough to figure it out or
you didn't read the web site before subscribing, my site has nothing
to do with Ford Motor Corporation. Both it and the Ford truck lists
are efforts I've put together and have spend hundreds of dollars and
hundreds of hours administering. Thank you for your kind,
judgemental (key: "mental") words.

Your abuse department has been forwarded a copy of your post.

Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
http://www.ford-trucks.com

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Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 17:59:36 -0500
From: "J. Oxley"
Subject: Re: Fordota

> > Hey all,
> >
> > I read somebody say that ford engines bite, and I'll have to agree...

Well, you've come to the wrong place.

> >although they "may" produce power, only the high end 5.0ltr and v-8 do
> >enough in that arena.

uuuh!!, WHAT, the 5.0 liter and V-8 are the same thing and the only 8
put in any small Ford truck. The sohc 4.0 produces almost the same power
and torque (and more than ANY jap motor) as the 8 and pratically beats
it 0-60. At least american manuf are smart enough not to completely
underpower their trucks. Nissan doesn't even have a 6 in their pickup.
I've driven the nissan 6, and it's adequite with 4.56 gears, but it's
not in the same league as the 4.0 sohc or GM's 4.3.

> When you look at the foreign cars/trucks, the
> >Japanese are making vehicles with smaller engines and more H/P!!

Peak HP is great if your drag racing. The total area under the torque
curve is what most american drivers and engine designers are looking
for. There is NO substitute for cubic inches when your towing.

>Top it all
> >off, they get a sh*tload more mpg.... Why the hell is Ford still only
> >gettin 17 or 18 mpg on a new truck when a toyota does 25 mpg CITY????

Which Toyota gets 25 city, a 4 cyl stripped, 2WD Tacoma. Who cares,
it's a dog and it ain't 4WD. Compare max torque figures of engines in a
comparible weight vehicle against milage and nobody has that big of an
edge over anyone else.

> Why?
> >Because the Gov't LET'S THEM.... I realize that mileage may not be AS big a
> >deal down in the US as here in Canada (or the rest of the world where oil is
> >NOT subsidized),

It's not subsidized, it's just not taxed to death.

>but the rest of the world tries to conserve energy, even in
> >trucks.

We deserve more of it, we risk our necks all over the world to
maintian the oil supply. I didn't see Canada leading the way in the last
war.

> > I love ford... but when i need to replace my engine... my truck is going
> >to become a Fordota.

I have nothing against Toys and their motors, but even their biggest
motor is not big enough for the american market. No toyota can tow 6000
lbs. A 4cyl, 4-runner is downright dangerous, it's so damn slow.

> For some reason I foresee a flame war..... :^)

It'll be a short war. :-)

OX

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Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 17:47:34 -0500
From: "Lare/Eric"
Subject: Re: '97 Ranger tow hook placement

O.K. - so anyway, if anyone has put hooks on the front of a Ranger (because
I DO push my truck beyond its limits and need pulled out of a sippy hole
every now and again - & vice versa w/ my wheelin buds) .... where did you
put them and how have they worked for you?

Thanks in advance,

Eric Smith - '94 Splash SC, 4x4, 4.0L, 4" Trailmast, 32x11.5 BFG's

?Ranger aren't meant to TOW, they are meant to fix up and drive the F_ck
over
?Chevy's, so if your low and high it's cool, buy a f150 to tow not a Ranger
?with it's wimpy 4.0 V6 like mine, and i hope you don't try it with the 3.0
or
?even tonka toy 2.3, might blow a engine. I love ford's but their engine
picks
?SUCK, put in a 5.0 or even 4.0l V8, come on FORD your starting to PI_S me
off
?like this wimpy KEN PAYNE SITE

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Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 18:07:06 -0500
From: Robert Katsma
Subject: Re: ADMIN: Aerostars

No telling what we could learn by adding them, I say go for it.
As for towing I've used both a 2.3L and the 3.0L for towing with no
problem, you just can't drag race while your doing it.
Bob

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Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 17:15:42 -0600
From: Mike Krause
Subject: Way to go Ken...

Ken, I just want to say "Good job". The guy who was saying all the c%
about this site and Ford in general needed to be dealt with. I just
want to also say thanks for these mailing lists and the time and effort
you have put into these. It's helped me and my quest to better my
Explorer out a lot. Guys....I think a round of applause and drinks is
due to Ken.....Way to go.
Mike Krause
mkrause thewoodlandstx.com

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Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 19:31:23 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: ADMIN: Digest topic filtering

Since the practice of replying to the digests without using a
subject has continued I've added a filter to all the lists that
will rejected any post that starts with (depends on the list):

re: fordtrucks-small-digest
re: fordtrucks61-79-digest
re: fordtrucks80up-digest
re: fordtrucks97up-digest
re: fordtrucks-digest

Such posts will be rejected. Unfortunately, these rejections
will will not send notification of the rejection. Such posts
simply disappear into the "bit bucket." When replying to the
digest, please put in the topic in the "SUBJECT" line of the
email.

Hopefully this change will make the list messages easier to
follow.

Later,
Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
http://www.ford-trucks.com

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Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 20:22:00 EST
From: Bakend
Subject: Re: Fordota

In a message dated 98-03-08 16:44:30 EST, you write:

> I love ford... but when i need to replace my engine... my truck is going
> >to become a Fordota.
Why not get a Chebby and make a Toylet?

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Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 17:24:13 -0800
From: "Keith Christensen"
Subject: Any Exhaust Recommendations? ('88 Bronco II, 2.9L , air/auto)

I'm looking at a complete exhaust including cat converter (seams rusting,
about shot) to pick up a few extra horses.. looking at JBA for headers,
but open to input..
Any recommendations? (hoping for mostly bolt-on as I don't have that much
shop available)
Keith Christensen
[Kill...(delete..) BAMBI in my address for Email.. the SPAMMERS have
caught on to the NOSPAM trick!]
A: High Tech is a Pain in the )( !
B: I deal with the Fast Electrons,
call a Lineman for problems with slow ones!

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Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 20:41:00 -0500
From: David
Subject: Bed Cover and Mat

I still have an Extang Saber tonno cover for sale for Ranger short bed.
Looks new. All hardware included. I am now asking $130.00 (includes any
shipping charges)I am also selling a Nymcord Bed mat and tail gate
protector for a SB Ranger for $20.00. Or both for 145.00 Send replies
to:David

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Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 04:51:40 -0500
From: CNOEL webtv.net (Christopher Noel)
Subject: Re: Any Exhaust Recommendations? ('88 Bronco II, 2.9L , air/auto)

Summitt has the complete kit for dual exhaust from pace setter in their
catalog im ordering it this week and ill tell you how difficult it is to
install afterwards.

CNOEL ....


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