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fordtrucks-small-digest Friday, March 6 1998 Volume 02 : Number 068



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In this issue:

Re: sohc Ranger [james oxley ]
SOHC vs. DOHC vs. QUAD-CAM. [RandalDGazdecki eaton.com]
Re: fordtrucks-small-digest V2 #63 [mark fitzgerald
New Jersey Suspension Alteration Law [james oxley ]
Re: SOHC vs. DOHC vs. QUAD-CAM. [Nathan Heid ]
re: sohc Ranger [KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)]
Ranger: TRUCK OF THE YEAR [qzl0st tpc.natp.gmeds.com (EI - Michael Ioco)]
rewire a plug-in type relay switch? [Bob Scola ]
Re: sohc Ranger [Jordan ]
Guy with 302 rangers [Jordan ]
Re: Guy with 302 rangers [Jmark6969 ]
Re: Guy with 302 rangers [mark fitzgerald ]
Re: Guy with 302 rangers [mark fitzgerald ]
Re: 3.0 V6 [fastranger juno.com (Brian S Grooms)]
Re: Guy with 302 rangers [Nathan Heid ]
Re: ADMIN: Please read, very important ["Jose A. Castillo"
91 Explorer ["Wag" ]
Re: Guy with 302 rangers [mark fitzgerald ]
Re: Guy with 302 rangers [Jordan ]

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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 08:26:32 -0800
From: james oxley
Subject: Re: sohc Ranger

WHRanger93 wrote:
> But i would rather have a ranger but i want a better
> engine. Dont even talk about a swap i want a new truck. So my question is
> does anyone know if the 4.0 sohc engine will be in the ranger with the 5
> manual by the begining of July?

It's not even an option at all, yet. It's not listed in the brochure,
unless it's a late year option. I want the 4 Dr, short bed, Ranger coming
in 99 (supposedly), but I will not get it without the sohc 4.0 or rear
disk brakes.

> And does a sohc actually have 2 seprate cams

yes, one per cyl head


> and 2 on and a dohc have 4 cams.

yes, two per cyl head

OX

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Date: 5 Mar 98 09:31:16 EST
From: RandalDGazdecki eaton.com
Subject: SOHC vs. DOHC vs. QUAD-CAM.

I'm sure someone already responded to this but..
S.O.H.C == Single Over-Head Cam (one)
D.O.H.C. == Dual Over-Head Cam (two).
QUAD-CAM == Four camshafts, usually overhead.

Randy
randaldgazdecki eaton.com
Eaton Corporation, S.I.C.D.

"I'd rather be a failure at something
I enjoy than be a success at
something I hate."
-George Burns

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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 07:31:23 -0800 (PST)
From: mark fitzgerald
Subject: Re: fordtrucks-small-digest V2 #63

when i first bought the truck it was lifted using a 5 inch trailmaster
suspension lift. this used a longer springs in the front coupled with
a spacer to space the front axle down from the centerpoint. The rear
had two inch add-a-leafs coupled with stacked two inch blocks. yuck.
those blocks came out immediately and in went new leaf springs which i
had designed for the ranger. about 3 weeks later i decided i was sick
of the weak front end and am in the process of converting over to a
front dana 44 and a rear ford nine inch axle. With the original lift i
was running 32's with plenty of fender room. if you want to risk
sheetmetal etc you could probably run 35's or maybe even 38's...but i
wouldn't recommend it.

Fitzy

- ---Eddie Torres wrote:
>
> What / how did you get the 5-6 inch lift? I have a '97 V-4
that I
> want to lift 6 or so inches. Also, maybe you know - what are the
largest
> size of tires I can put without them scraping into anything?
> At 07:44 3/03/98 -0800, you wrote:
> >
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DO YOU YAHOO!?

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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 10:41:03 -0800
From: james oxley
Subject: New Jersey Suspension Alteration Law

Hey all

Seems I was slightly wrong in my last posting. It's much worse than I
thought. My original posting on resrictions of lifted trucks was the
original proposal and has since been modified. See below.

Just wanted to pass along some info. Last fall Colorado had a bill
introduced (SB-34) that would make it illegal to change any suspension
component including wheels/tires, ect... This bill was later amended
with help from the offroad commumity to basically apply to lifted trucks
and was finally killed completely by the work of truck enthusiast/offroad
clubs in Colorado.

In NJ, the laws governing lifting trucks is written into what is
called the "Administraive Code". This basically means a bill/law/vote is
not needed to change any part of this code. Well, a change was written to
further restrict lifted trucks. This change escalated into the current
wording that restricts suspension changes to +/- 1 inch. Thats right, +/-
ONE inch. It also supposedly has wording for retrictions on aftermarket
lighting (and even grill guards, nerf bars ect....) I wish I knew more,
but since no actual bill is proposed (it's not needed to change the law),
it's not something that can be looked up.

Richard Kamin (NJ Director of Motor Vehicles) is taking comments until
June 4, 1998. If you ever had a thought about future suspension mods, you
may want to write a letter to Kamin expressing your dissatisfaction.
Being that the state bird of NJ is the Ostrich :-), it seems the
organization that Colorado had to defeat their bill does not exist in NJ.

Sorry to bother the other 49 (although you may be next)

OX

PS, if you belong to another automotive mailing list (even the Ch*bbie
lists), please pass this info along. It's not make specific.

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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 11:23:28 -0500
From: Nathan Heid
Subject: Re: SOHC vs. DOHC vs. QUAD-CAM.

At 09:31 AM 3/5/98 EST, you wrote:
>I'm sure someone already responded to this but..
>S.O.H.C == Single Over-Head Cam (one)

But if you have two heads(V-6, V-8, v-12, etc) with a camsfaft
over each one, you have two camshafts

>D.O.H.C. == Dual Over-Head Cam (two).

But if you have two heads(V-6, V-8, v-12, etc) with dual cams
over them, you have four camshafts

>QUAD-CAM == Four camshafts, usually overhead.

Another name for the above configuration

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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:19:36, -0500
From: KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)
Subject: re: sohc Ranger

If you're gonna trade for a D*kota with the 5.2, why not get the
D*kota R/T with the 5.9L? I heard Ford is trying to stick the SOHC
in there soon, so I would wait. Plus, the Ranger is a much better
truck. They are n't the top selling truck for no reason!

Josh

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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 14:16:33 -0500
From: qzl0st tpc.natp.gmeds.com (EI - Michael Ioco)
Subject: Ranger: TRUCK OF THE YEAR

"This truck gets better and better"

Not hard to believe for those of us who own one, the 1998 Ranger SuperCab was
named Truck of The Year by Truckin' magazine (May 1998)


Gotta love that!!

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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:04:40 -0800
From: Bob Scola
Subject: rewire a plug-in type relay switch?

You need to cut & splice the wires in the bottom of the box, where the wires
lead into the sockets that the relays plus into from the top.

Bob

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From: "Bryan Dann"
Subject: Fw: fordtrucks-small-digest V2 #66

I just looked at my 93 Ranger 4.0 L, this box is also located on the
driver's side
just above the wheel well. It's a long black box about 9" long and runs
parallel to
the head lights, inside the box are fuses and 4 relays ( plug-in type ) one
is labeled fog lamps. If this is the correct box, how do you rewire a
plug-in type relay switch?

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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 15:46:32 -0600
From: Jordan
Subject: Re: sohc Ranger

At 02:07 PM 3/4/98 EST, you wrote:
>I own a 93 Ranger with a 4.0 with 70 miles. I am looking to trade it in for a
>98 Dakota with 5.2 V8. But i would rather have a ranger but i want a better
heh heh, big engine!!!!!!
>engine. Dont even talk about a swap i want a new truck. So my question is
>does anyone know if the 4.0 sohc engine will be in the ranger with the 5
>manual by the begining of July? And does a sohc actually have 2 seprate
cams
Not sure about the cams, don't expect the dohc to come with a standard, you
can't get explorers that way, and I just don't think it is going to happen
sorry.

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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 15:42:05 -0600
From: Jordan
Subject: Guy with 302 rangers

>>i own two rangers with 302's. one's a four wheel drive with 5-6 inches
>>of lift, and the others a two wheel drive with a 2 inch drop. Due to
>>the mass of the extra two cylinders, there is an increase in mass, but
>>not noticeably...
>>I solved most of the weight considerations by going with aluminum
>>heads and a pair of stainless steel headers....that knocked off almost
>>60 pounds.
>>
>>Fitzy
How difficult was the switch to the 302? what did the trucks start with,
new computer?? about how much am I looking at for a job like this (just
one though)
thanx jordan

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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 17:22:53 EST
From: Jmark6969
Subject: Re: Guy with 302 rangers

Hi

I have a 96 4x2 4cyl and I am looking to put in a 302. How difficult was it
and did it require any frame or body alterations? Thanks for the info
jeff jmark6969 aol.com

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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 14:33:19 -0800 (PST)
From: mark fitzgerald
Subject: Re: Guy with 302 rangers

I really need to know if yours is four wheel drive or two wheel drive
b/c the costs vary GREATLY!!!!!! The swap in a two wheel drive is
really easy, especially if you choose not to use headers. both of my
rangers are early-mid 80's so no computer was needed. the "computer"
that it had was taken out, and using a multimeter we determined what
the connections were so we just wired direct....let me know what you
want to swap into and i'll get right back to ya

Fitzy

> How difficult was the switch to the 302? what did the trucks start
with,
> new computer?? about how much am I looking at for a job like this
(just
> one though)
> thanx jordan
>
_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?

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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 14:35:38 -0800 (PST)
From: mark fitzgerald
Subject: Re: Guy with 302 rangers

hello
My 2 wheel drive ranger required no body or frame modifications. As
long as you make or buy engine mounts (advance adapters) it will
almost bolt right in. The only modifications you need to make are,
notching the heater box, running a remote oil filter, and sorting out
the huge wiring mess i guarantee you'll have. if you want to buy a
kit, advance adapters sells them with various engines all the way up
to a 460 (drool, drool).
On my 2 wheel drive i'm running stock exhaust manifolds while on my
four wheel drive i'm running shorty stainless steel headers. i had to
modify the frame to fit the shorty headers on the passenger side. For
costs, you're looking at an engine, trannie, maybe a new rear end (not
sure if your year came with the 8.8)possibly a new drivesfaft, engine
mounts, and..oh yes....new tires....cause it'll sit there and smoke'em
all to hell....

Fitzy

- ---Jmark6969 wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> I have a 96 4x2 4cyl and I am looking to put in a 302. How
difficult was it
> and did it require any frame or body alterations? Thanks for the
info
> jeff jmark6969 aol.com
>
_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?

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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 17:28:09 -0500
From: fastranger juno.com (Brian S Grooms)
Subject: Re: 3.0 V6

On Sun, 01 Mar 1998 18:21:36 -0500 Gardner writes:
>Ken Payne wrote:
>>
>> Is the 3.0 V6 used in the Taurus and Aerostar the same
>> engine that's in the small truck line? I'm getting
>> one for free and I'm not sure if I ought to spend $$$
>> rebuilding it for a Ranger I might buy (no engine).
>>
>> Ken
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>Sure is Ken! The only thing is that if it out of a Taurus some of the
>mounts may be different since it coming out of a front wheel drive
>car!
>Good Luck
>
>JUST drop in a 5.0

The standard Taurus engine is shared in the Ranger (OHV) The middle
engine is a DOHC version of the 3.0L, which would be the one to have.

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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 17:53:36 -0500
From: Nathan Heid
Subject: Re: Guy with 302 rangers

>How difficult was the switch to the 302? what did the trucks start with,
>new computer?? about how much am I looking at for a job like this

Me too! Me too! What would I be getting into if I swap my 2.0 4 cyl. for
a late model EFI 5.0? What's the difference between the 5.0's in Mustangs
and those in F150's? 5-Speed? AOD? c-4? Legalities in Ohio?

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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 18:23:21 -0600
From: "Jose A. Castillo"
Subject: Re: ADMIN: Please read, very important

No.

This a public forum, in almost all case we can assist each other on
locating products of interest.

Castillo, Jose A.
Dallas, Tx

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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 22:54:54 -0500
From: "Wag"
Subject: 91 Explorer

New to the list! I have a few questions.
1. Where are the back issues or "board" I have read about.
Is there a place to research a question before starting an
old thread that has been covered?
2. I have a 91 Explorer 4x4 4dr. 175K miles nothing on engine
touched except h2o pump and valve gaskets-original owner. It is "pinging"
under load
at highway speeds. From start it will roar right up to speed. Once up at 45
slight nudge of
the gas pedal and it will ping until you let off. This happens in drive and
O-drive.
This has been going on for a couple of months. plugs/wires less than 6months
old.
Every other car, I would check the timing but this critter won't let me
adjust anything! SO do I have a timing chain that is stretched to the point
that the CPU
cannot compensate? (re-read miles) Any help would be appreciated.
Gregg Wagner
DBA- "WAG"
Statesboro, GA

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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 21:26:00 -0800 (PST)
From: mark fitzgerald
Subject: Re: Guy with 302 rangers

gee..i knew i should have gone to a tech college instead of umass
lowell...ok..here goes....
the two wheel drive ranger has no body or frame mod's. technicaly all
you're looking at for parts is the engine, the trannie, a rear end,
and a new driveshaft. for the engine we used a 302 bored .060 which
gives me 306 cubic inches. the engine is carbeurated so there is no
need for a computer. i'm runnig a C4 trannie with a B&M shifter. It's
there bottom of the line shifter and i absolutely love it. I have a
8.8 rear end that is posi. The driveshaft we had made at Gilberts.
It is MUCH EASIER to do this swap in a 2 wheel drive than a four wheel
drive. as for legality....i know mine's no legal...as i have no
catalytic converters.....but am rather hazy on the other laws...if
anyone has any other questions feel free to email me at
Fitzy5.0 rocketmail.com i'm pretty sure the stock ranger crowd is
gettin kinda sick of hearin about this.....wouldn't want to spam the
list too much...

Best regards,
Fitzy

Fitzy


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Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 00:14:14 -0600
From: Jordan
Subject: Re: Guy with 302 rangers

At 02:33 PM 3/5/98 -0800, you wrote:
>I really need to know if yours is four wheel drive or two wheel drive
>b/c the costs vary GREATLY!!!!!! The swap in a two wheel drive is
>really easy, especially if you choose not to use headers. both of my....


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