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fordtrucks-small-digest Tuesday, March 3 1998 Volume 02 : Number 064



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In this issue:

the "baggy" objects [qzl0st tpc.natp.gmeds.com (EI - Michael Ioco)]
Re: fordtrucks-small-digest V2 #63 [Ed Walker ]
re:exaust [Luke Wells ]
re: Explorer Rear Axle... [Bob Scola ]
Re: fordtrucks-small-digest V2 #63 [Gardner ]
Re: tornado ["WK" ]
re: 3.0 V6 [KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)]
Cam Shafts ["Pete Lawless" ]
Lockers ["Pete Lawless" ]
Re: Lockers [mark fitzgerald ]
Front leveling coils ["Bryce" ]
Re: Front leveling coils [john.doe erols.com]
4wd AND Limited-Slip ? [Jeff Ginnow ]
Re: Cam Shafts [HYDROSMITH ]
Re: exaust [Bob Fiddes ]
Re: 4wd AND Limited-Slip ? ["Bryce" ]
Chevy Definitions [Ken Payne ]
2.9 Acting strange [mgpkep juno.com (Michael G. Peacock)]
Re: Front leveling coils ["Jerry Dean" ]
Re: 2.9 Acting strange [Tom Test ]
Re: fordtrucks-small-digest V2 #63 [Diana Slyter ]
Re: 4wd AND Limited-Slip ? [Diana Slyter ]

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Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 09:16:31 -0500
From: qzl0st tpc.natp.gmeds.com (EI - Michael Ioco)
Subject: the "baggy" objects

> From: "Lou Guerriero"

> Hi,
>
> Interesting thing I've found out. For all you Ranger/Bronco II owners
> with water probs (wet carpets anyone?)
>
> I have previously mentioned the "baggy" objects I found in the forward
> corner between the firewall and the quarterpanel/fender (near the windows)
>
> Well.. after removing ALL the inside trim.. I finally tracked down One
> of my leaks. .(the biggest). It seems that this "channel" goes right down,
> and is a space for wiring etc.... the hole is between the emergency
> break... just up a bit, hidden by a noise reducing rubberized panel. The
> cotton type material on the back of this panel was wet.. so I reached up as
> far as I could, and found a LARGE hole... Stuffed with more "plastic bag"
> type material!!!!!! Yoiks! This is engineering???? Aaaahhhh....

> Lou Guerriero

I too found these nice little baggies on my new Ranger. I'm sure others out
there have found them behind your super-cab jump seats. I don't know what to
make of it. I guess you can always pull them out and use them as pillows or
something. I'm sure the engineers designed them to be multi-purpose...



Mike

98 Ranger 4x4 SC

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Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 10:48:40 -0500
From: Ed Walker
Subject: Re: fordtrucks-small-digest V2 #63

> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 01 Mar 1998 18:21:36 -0500
> From: Gardner
> Subject: Re: 3.0 V6
>
> Ken Payne wrote:
> >
> > Is the 3.0 V6 used in the Taurus and Aerostar the same
> > engine that's in the small truck line? I'm getting
> > one for free and I'm not sure if I ought to spend $$$
> > rebuilding it for a Ranger I might buy (no engine).
> >
> > Ken
> >
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>
> Sure is Ken! The only thing is that if it out of a Taurus some of the
> mounts may be different since it coming out of a front wheel drive car!
> Good Luck
>
> JUST drop in a 5.0
>
> ------------------------------
>

How much of a problem is dropping a 5.0 in 89 ranger? What mounts etc.?
thanks ED

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Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 12:32:15 -0500
From: Luke Wells
Subject: re:exaust

What engine do you have? My friend has a 4.0 and he changed the cat to a
freer flowing cat
it made a world of difference sound wise and he could feel a small
difference in HP gains, but the
sound is awesome when he paired it with his terminator muffler.

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Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 10:07:06 -0800
From: Bob Scola
Subject: re: Explorer Rear Axle...

Explorer Express 1-888-EXPLORER has a rear drum to disk conversion kit for
$600 in their catalog.

Bob
'97 Explorer XLT SOHC

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I was just wondering what type of rear axle a '91 Explorer XLT, 2 wheel
drive has. Also, I want to convert the rear drums to discs and want a
company that can give me the conversion along with drilled or slotted
rotors with bigger than stock rotors. If anyone can give me some names
of companies or point me in the right direction I'd really appreciate
it. Any advise is always welcome. Thanks.
Mike Krause
mkrause thewoodlandstx.com

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Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 13:30:53 -0500
From: Gardner
Subject: Re: fordtrucks-small-digest V2 #63

>
> How much of a problem is dropping a 5.0 in 89 ranger? What mounts etc.?
> thanks ED

ED contact advance adapters they will have everything you need to get it
hooked up. The sell a complete kit that mounts the motor and trans so
that the driveshaft does not have to altered! I was going todo this to
my 94 but traded in instead on a Lightning!
Good luck
chris

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Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 12:27:55 -0600
From: "WK"
Subject: Re: tornado

> Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 22:41:44 -0500
> From: CNOEL webtv.net (Christopher Noel)
> Subject: tornado
>
> anybody try the tornado product? did you like it or was it a waste of
> money?
>
> Christopher H. Noel

If such a device were to be after the point where fuel is introduced
into the air intake charge, IT MIGHT help antomize the fuel air charge
better. In it's delivered form, I see it as a BIG restriction to
airflow.

Warren Kurtz
Kurtz Kustomz Motorsports
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.kustomz.com

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Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 13:33:20, -0500
From: KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)
Subject: re: 3.0 V6

Ken,

There are two 3.0L's offered with the Taurus. One is a 12 valve 145
hp and the other is a 24 valve 200 hp. I think the 12 valve is the
same as in the pre-98 Rangers, but I am not sure. What year truck,
cab configuration, and drivetrain is it going in? Maybe a 5.0L would
be best for this Ranger!

Josh

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Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 10:36:37 -0800
From: "Pete Lawless"
Subject: Cam Shafts

> im desperately looking for the aftermarket cam shaft for the 3.0 v- 6
> ford ranger please help.

Christopher-
Try calling Engle Racing Cams in Santa Monica, CA at 310-450-0806. I had
trouble finding an aftermarket performance cam for the 2.9 Ltr in my '88
Ranger 4x4. They actually had 3 versions to choose from. I believe they
referred to the one I chose as the RV2. The cam along with several other
engine mods produced a substantial gain in my low end torque.
Pete Lawless

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Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 10:42:53 -0800
From: "Pete Lawless"
Subject: Lockers

I'm considering a Detroit locker for my rear diff and a Lock-Right for the
front on my Ranger. What are your experiences and opinions in regards to
the on- highway and around-town characteristics of this set-up. I know the
wheeling (rock crawling) will be considerably improved over the posi's that
I have now.
Thanks, Pete Lawless

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Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 12:54:51 -0800 (PST)
From: mark fitzgerald
Subject: Re: Lockers

I'm not sure what ranger you have but i'd say it's a pretty safe bet
to say that you don't have a solid front axle unless you swapped in a
dana 44 or such. putting lockers into your axles is a great idea for
rock crawling. other than than the rear kicking about once a month and
scaring the hell out of you when the collars disconnect having a
locker in the rear isn't that bad. i still owuld switch your front end
over to a solid axle though....stock is pretty weak...

fitzy





> I'm considering a Detroit locker for my rear diff and a Lock-Right
for the
> front on my Ranger. What are your experiences and opinions in
regards to
> the on- highway and around-town characteristics of this set-up. I
know the
> wheeling (rock crawling) will be considerably improved over the
posi's that
> I have now.
> Thanks, Pete Lawless
>
>
>
>
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Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 16:00:38 -0500
From: "Bryce"
Subject: Front leveling coils

Has anyone put in some front suspension leveling coils in a newish (93-97)
Ranger? I'm thinking of doing this rather than a complete lift on my
truck. What brand did you get? how much? where? did you install them
yourself? likes/dislikes/problems? what size tire can you fit now?

It's basiclly for looks, since I've been off-road a few times now, and it
performed fine...I'm not a maniac trying to see how much air I can get or
how big a rock I can straddle.

Bryce

Bryce's 4xFord Ranger Page
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.geocities.com/baja/2995

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Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 17:18:20 -0500
From: john.doe erols.com
Subject: Re: Front leveling coils

>Has anyone put in some front suspension leveling coils in a newish (93-97)
>Ranger? I'm thinking of doing this rather than a complete lift on my
>truck. What brand did you get? how much? where? did you install them
>yourself? likes/dislikes/problems? what size tire can you fit now?

I have Superlift 2" coils springs installed on my 1993 STX. This has
allowed me to run Dunlop 32X11.50 Radial Rovers on the factory STX wheels.
I bought them locally and had them installed along with the tires, a front
end alignment and 4 Rancho shocks and a headlight alignment. I don't recall
individual costs but I believe the springs were the least expensive item
(other than headlight alignment). I have no problems w/rubbing on the
street although I've heard other folks complain this is cutting it close
off road. As far as appearance, I am completely satisfied with the look. My
truck sits a little higher in the front than the back. As a sideline, I
believe wet weather rear tire traction has improved due to the shift in
vehicle weight bias (but this may be wishful thinking). If you do add the
coils, get your headlights adjusted. With all the crap in the media about
SUVs and lifted vehicles in general, this is the least you can do for
others on the road.

john

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Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 18:06:25 -0600
From: Jeff Ginnow
Subject: 4wd AND Limited-Slip ?

Anybody got an opinion (boy, I'm really asking for it here) on
getting/needing the Limited-Slip option on a 4x4? I understand why it
would be better, just not sure how much better or how often a real life
situation comes up that makes it necessary. Also, in 4x4's with
Limited-Slip, is it only the rear axle that is Limited-Slip or both
front and rear?

My dealer tells me heavy duty shocks also come with the trailer
tow/Limited-Slip axle package. I plan on towing very little. Is my
rougher ride due to the heavy duty shocks going to be worth it for the
(how often?) need for 4wd AND a Limited-Slip axle? Can/should that
rougher ride, due to the heavy duty shocks, be fixed by after market
(Edelbrocks for example) shocks or is there something else I don't know
about here like heavier duty springs?

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Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 20:35:34 EST
From: HYDROSMITH
Subject: Re: Cam Shafts

I also have a 1988 Ranger 4X4. When you changed the cam did it do anything to
mess up the computer? It is my understanding that the 2.9's have speed density
injection which does not respond well to mods.

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Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 18:44:50 -0700
From: Bob Fiddes
Subject: Re: exaust

Luke:

Where did he get the Cat and what brand is it?

Luke Wells wrote:

> What engine do you have? My friend has a 4.0 and he changed the cat to a
> freer flowing cat
>

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Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 20:59:11 -0500
From: "Bryce"
Subject: Re: 4wd AND Limited-Slip ?

Your going to want the limited slip rear for the same reason that your
getting 4wd...unless you plan on putting a locker in the diffs. or you're
getting the 4x4 strictly for looks. The Traction-Loc LS diff. is better
than the open diffs. ... if you get stuck or plan on doing some
off-roading, I think you'll be happy you did. If you plan on doing a lot
of off-roading, get the open diffs and replace them with lockers...if you
never plan on off-roading, get the open diffs... As far as I know, only
the rear gets the LS diff...the front is still open. I have the
Traction-Loc rear in my ranger with the 3.73's and 265/75r15 tires...I bark
the tires when taking off and making a turn at the same time once and a
while, but other than that, they've been fine.
As for the rear suspension, I'm not sure how it will change the ride...i'd
imagine that aftermarket shocks could smooth out the ride...just remember,
it's a truck...
my 2 cents...

Bryce
Bryce's 4xFord Ranger Page
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.geocities.com/baja/2995

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> From: Jeff Ginnow
> To: fordtrucks-small listservice.net
> Subject: 4wd AND Limited-Slip ?
> Date: Monday, March 02, 1998 7:06 PM
>
> Anybody got an opinion (boy, I'm really asking for it here) on
> getting/needing the Limited-Slip option on a 4x4? I understand why it
> would be better, just not sure how much better or how often a real life
> situation comes up that makes it necessary. Also, in 4x4's with
> Limited-Slip, is it only the rear axle that is Limited-Slip or both
> front and rear?
>
> My dealer tells me heavy duty shocks also come with the trailer
> tow/Limited-Slip axle package. I plan on towing very little. Is my
> rougher ride due to the heavy duty shocks going to be worth it for the
> (how often?) need for 4wd AND a Limited-Slip axle? Can/should that
> rougher ride, due to the heavy duty shocks, be fixed by after market
> (Edelbrocks for example) shocks or is there something else I don't know
> about here like heavier duty springs?
>
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Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 21:27:29 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Chevy Definitions

Someone emailed me a couple of funny Chevy/GMC definitions.
Thought some of you might enjoy them.

C heap
H ardly
E fflicent
V ehicle
R uns
O n
L uck
E very
T ime

G M C..... got mechanic coming

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Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 21:46:22 +0000
From: mgpkep juno.com (Michael G. Peacock)
Subject: 2.9 Acting strange

How's everyone?
I have a 1986 BroncoII 2.9L efi. This evening I was working on
the auxiliary lighting system, I pulled the battery(neg) cable, moved the
wiring shroud on the passengers side, did some work on the lighting and
put everything back together. On the way home I noticed that the truck's
idle jumped between 500 rpm and 800 rpm with a regular rythem. Previously
I had moved the ignition timing from 10degrees btdc to 14 deg. btdc to
smooth out the idle. It's run for about 2 weeks smooth as silk. So what
could I have done to upset the truck?
Also, I was told to listen for pinging after I changed the
timing as it's bad for the engine. I've never heard pinging so I'm
wondering how I'll know if I hear it. Can anyone describe what I should
be listening for, what rpm, what driving situation?

Thanks for all the help -- Mike(Mike edi1.com)

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Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 22:34:29 -0500
From: "Jerry Dean"
Subject: Re: Front leveling coils

Reply to a guy named Brad at this address: hotrod2 sgi.net I know he can
help you with all of your questions and then some.

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Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 01:00:10 EST
From: Tom Test
Subject: Re: 2.9 Acting strange

> what I should be listening for

Pinging sounds like a few marbles banging around in a coffee can.
You should hear it under acceleration at relatively low RPM, if it
is a result of advancing the ignition. One or more cylinders is
firing a bit early from time to time. If infrequent and intermittent,
a little bit of this pinging is OK.

You can get a harsher steady rattle under a steady load, usually
a heavy load but not necessarily, at a cruise or higher rpm. This
can do a lot of damage fast. Notably, you can destroy an engine
in less than a quarter mile. Not only are one or more cylinders
firing early, you are getting more of an explosion than a fast
burn, i.e. shock waves inside the cylinder. This can be caused
by a combination of factors like too much compression, not
enough octane, hot spots in the combustion chamber, and
triggering the spark too early can be the final thing that sets
it off.

> what could I have done to upset the truck?
If your engine were 10 years newer I'd blame removing the
negative cable. The newer computers gather data to adapt to
gradual changes in your engine's condition. Your 86 shouldn't
be that smart. Either you've unplugged something accidentally,
or you adjusted the timing outside the range where EEC-IV
can control idle, and it just took a while to catch up with
you.

Tom Test
92 2WD SB 3.0

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Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 01:42:21 -0600 (CST)
From: Diana Slyter
Subject: Re: fordtrucks-small-digest V2 #63

How much weight does a 302 add over the V6? Most pickup truck are rather
nose heavy to start with, and care must be exercised to avoid swaps that
will worsen handling by adding more weight to the front end.

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On Mon, 2 Mar 1998, Gardner wrote:

> >
> > How much of a problem is dropping a 5.0 in 89 ranger? What mounts etc.?
> > thanks ED
>
> ED contact advance adapters they will have everything you need to get it
> hooked up. The sell a complete kit that mounts the motor and trans so
> that the driveshaft does not have to altered! I was going todo this to
> my 94 but traded in instead on a Lightning!
> Good luck
> chris
>
>
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Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 01:58:31 -0600 (CST)
From: Diana Slyter
Subject: Re: 4wd AND Limited-Slip ?

Here in the snow belt limited slip may help you get out of the ditch after
it locks up and puts you there. When the limited slip differential detects
the slightest bit of slip in one wheel it locks up and you loose side to
side stability. I thusly spec'd my 4wd Ranger with the standard open
differentials.

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On Mon, 2 Mar 1998, Jeff Ginnow wrote:

> Anybody got an opinion (boy, I'm really asking for it here) on
> getting/needing the Limited-Slip option on a 4x4? I understand why it
> would be better, just not sure how much better or how often a real life
> situation comes up that makes it necessary. Also, in 4x4's with
> Limited-Slip, is it only the rear axle that is Limited-Slip or both
> front and rear?
>
> My dealer tells me heavy duty shocks also come with the trailer
> tow/Limited-Slip axle package. I plan on towing very little. Is my....

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