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fordtrucks-small-digest Tuesday, January 6 1998 Volume 02 : Number 005



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In this issue:

Re: 4.0 dual exhausts [Midwest96 ]
Re: Ranger stx [Thom Cheney ]
Re: Ranger stx [Thom Cheney ]
re: 3rd Seat for explorer?? [Bob Scola ]
Re; third seat for explorer ["Jeff Wey" ]
Re: 4.0 dual exhausts [Midwest96 ]
Re: Ranger reliability [Mark Pawlowski ]
Re: Ranger Manual Trans. Slave Cylinder [Mark Pawlowski
Re: 4.0 dual exhausts [Jordan ]
dual exhaust [David ]
302 or 351 conversion [Jordan ]
Bed cover and mat [David ]
re: Bed cover and mat [KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)]
Re: Ranger Manual Trans. Slave Cylinder ["Bryce T. Beyler"
Re: 4.0 dual exhausts ["Bryce T. Beyler" ]
Re: fordtrucks-small-digest V1 #3 [ILuvTruks ]
Re: CBs: antennas and mounting [ILuvTruks ]
Re: exhausted exhaust [ILuvTruks ]
Re: 4.0 dual exhausts [Midwest96 ]
Re: Ranger stx [Diana Slyter ]

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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 09:15:14 EST
From: Midwest96
Subject: Re: 4.0 dual exhausts

In a message dated 98-01-04 23:34:36 EST, you write:


enjoy. And if you just want the looks of dual, glue a tip to the bumper.
(just kidding of course). >>

That is a personal pet peeve. Especially here in MI during the winter, I love
to see all of the dual exhaust "performance" cars in the cold w/exhaust only
coming steaming out of one side! ANother one is the enlarged tip on exhausts
that only extends for 6" under the car attached to a regular exhaust pipe.
Did somebody say rice? :)

Craig {Midwest96 aol.com|

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Date: Mon, 05 Jan 1998 07:58:15 -0800
From: Thom Cheney
Subject: Re: Ranger stx

David wrote:
>
> Can someone tell me what a ranger stx is? How is this different from the xl
> or xlt models? I noticed in the 98 sales brochure that the stx is no longe
> offered. Does anyone know why?


My STX looks a little different than the XLT. It has no chrome, the
grill, facia and bumpers are grey. It has different wheels (like on the
Explorers for the '97 model). It is a package that came with skid
plates, the lower facia with fog lamps and a handling package. All the
'97 STX trucks had purple striping and an STX sticker on the tailgate.
Tape was deleted (thank goodness) on my truck. I peeled the purple STX
off myself (purple & red make me ill when seen together). I believe you
could option an XLT with just about everything the STX had, except for
the Explorer wheels. Not too many of us were willing to plunk down an
extra few bucks to get all the goodies as a package. I still don't see
many other STX trucks in my neighborhood.

TC

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Date: Mon, 05 Jan 1998 08:01:25 -0800
From: Thom Cheney
Subject: Re: Ranger stx

Diana Slyter wrote:
>
> The STX has usually been the top option 4wd Ranger, often jacked up a
> couple inches higher than normal 4wd Rangers to give that "boy racer"
> look. In this years rehash of the Ranger lineup the STX was largely
> replaced by an "off road" package on the XLT. Having put the STX out of
> it's misery, Ford none the less preserved one of it's worst traits by
> jacking up all the '98 4wd Rangers by a couple of inches. So despite
> ordering my '98 4wd Ranger in mild mannered XL trim with split bench XLT
> seats I am still stuck with the STX's long climb up and into the cab!


ummm...okay.... I guess being 6' 2", the climb is just about right for
me! Guess you shoulda bought an Escort.

TC

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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 10:16:26 -0800
From: Bob Scola
Subject: re: 3rd Seat for explorer??

I've seen them listed in several different catalogs. I saw one last night
in the John Baker catalog. They're $500-$800 or so depending on covering.
Don't know about legality of making your own, but crash forces are awesome,
so I would want to know what I was doing.

Bob
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Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 18:50:17 -0600
From: "Nathan L. Iven"
Subject: 3rd Seat for explorer??

Does any one know if there is an aftermarket option for a third seat in a
'92 explorer. Even something like the old station wagons that faces
backwards. My neighbor had a recent edition to the family this christmas,
and space is getting tight!
Are there any legal issues w/ fabricating your own????

Nathan L. Iven
nathan.iven usa.net

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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 14:41:00 -0500
From: "Jeff Wey"
Subject: Re; third seat for explorer

I was looking in Cabelas(a hunting supplier)they list a third seat in 4
colors for $199.99 plus $39.99 for explorer mounting kit and comes with
seatbelts They state must be a 4door explorer??? if interested
1-800-237-4444 seat #aj-51-2393/ kit #aj-51-2394-081

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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 14:51:25 EST
From: Midwest96
Subject: Re: 4.0 dual exhausts

In a message dated 98-01-05 09:16:38 EST, you write:


love
to see all of the dual exhaust "performance" cars in the cold w/exhaust only
coming steaming out of one side! ANother one is the enlarged tip on exhausts
that only extends for 6" under the car attached to a regular exhaust pipe.
Did somebody say rice? :)
>>

Sorry, I forgot this one: Thru the glass cell phone, w/no pickup on the other
side of the glass. Sheesh...

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Date: Mon, 05 Jan 1998 12:55:15 -0800
From: Mark Pawlowski
Subject: Re: Ranger reliability

Bryce my spedo reads 1/10th of a mile slow for every mile driven. I'm going to
keep it that way because ever 10 miles I drive I get a free mile not registered
on the spedo.. I drive 75 miles round trip to work each day. I bought my 97 in
July of 97 and I have 12,500 on it now. It had 14 when I got it.

Bryce T. Beyler wrote:

> Well...So far my '97 ranger has been in the shop 4 times...2 times for the
> dealers lunkheads to not fix each problem and 2 times for them to get it
> right...My first odometer calculated 1.5 miles for each mile really driven
> (factory defect) and then my slave cylinder went bad on my clutch. Both
> fixed in less than a 24 hour period, under warranty and I got a free rental
> from my dealer. Out of my own pocket, I've relpaced my winshield (my
> insurance deductible) and a factory fog light ($27 from Hella).
>
> Bryce
> '97 Rnger XLT 4x4 SuperCab
>
> > From: Thom Cheney
> > To: fordtrucks-small listservice.net
> > Subject: Re: fordtrucks-small-digest V1 #5
> > Date: Friday, January 02, 1998 10:39 AM
> >
> > Fortunately my Ranger seems to be a decently built truck. I find it to
> > be as well put together as the last truck I owned, a 1991 Toyota. I'm
> > crossing my fingers (til they turn Ford blue) that the reliability is as
> > good!
> >
> > Thom Cheney
> > '97 Ranger 4X4 S-cab STX
> >
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Date: Mon, 05 Jan 1998 13:31:25 -0800
From: Mark Pawlowski
Subject: Re: Ranger Manual Trans. Slave Cylinder

As a matter of fact I'm having this same problem but didn't know it. I was going to
have what ever was making the noise lubed when I go in for an oil change Thursday..
Looks like I may be there a bit longer than I though!

Bryce T. Beyler wrote:

> Hello all,
> Just wondering if anyone else is having problems with the slave cylinder
> in the hydrolic clutch system on a '97 Ranger. I feel mine is going out
> again (second time in 17.5k miles) after being replaced about 2500 miles
> ago...It sounds like a squeaking noise when you depress and release the
> clutch peddle. I saw a TSB (BC2301970501) that says that there was a
> redesigned unit for this model year, so I'm gonna show it to the folks at
> my dealer and see what they say. I really like the truck, but if I'm going
> to have to have the transmission/t-case/dirveshafts pulled out and the
> slave cylinder replaced every 2.5-3k miles, I'm gonna unload it before the
> warranty runs out...
>
> Bryce
> '97 Ranger XLT 4x4 CuperCab
>
> BTW: my truck has the 4.0L V6, 5sp manual, and on-the-fly 4x4
>
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Date: Mon, 05 Jan 1998 15:47:25 -0600
From: Jordan
Subject: Re: 4.0 dual exhausts

>That is a personal pet peeve. Especially here in MI during the winter, I
love
>to see all of the dual exhaust "performance" cars in the cold w/exhaust only
>coming steaming out of one side! ANother one is the enlarged tip on exhausts
>that only extends for 6" under the car attached to a regular exhaust pipe.
>Did somebody say rice? :)
hahaha I know excately what you mean, that comes from people puttin a dual
exhaust on that is really a single with a second pipe (coming off first)
that is not an efficient way for gasses to escape so they don't go that
way. Yeah like I saw a truck with 1" pipes but 3 1/2 " tips pretty stupid.
Jordan

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Date: Mon, 05 Jan 1998 18:02:58 -0500
From: David
Subject: dual exhaust

I have seen several rangers with dual exhaust. However, I'm not sure how
they did it because I know that on my truck the gas tank is in the way as
well as the spare tire holder.

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Date: Mon, 05 Jan 1998 15:50:51 -0600
From: Jordan
Subject: 302 or 351 conversion

Hey just out of curiousity, have any of you with 4.0 explorers or mustangs
either converted or had swapped in a 302 or 351 in. If so how hard was it
and what was the approximate cost??
thanks

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Date: Mon, 05 Jan 1998 18:32:22 -0500
From: David
Subject: Bed cover and mat

I have a Extang Saber tonno cover for sale for Ranger short bed. Looks
new. All hardware included. I am asking $150.00 (includes any shipping
charges)
I am also selling a Nymcord Bed mat and tail gate protector for a SB Ranger
for $30.00. Send replies to:David I am looking for
some diamond tread running boards for my 94 Ranger. The JC Whitney Cat has
some but they only make them for Rangers up to 92. Does anyone know if 16"
wheels from a 1997 F-150 with 29" tires would fit my truck without any
modifications? If I do this it will effect my speedometer. What do I need
to do to fix this so that it reads accurately?

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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 18:49:16, -0500
From: KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)
Subject: re: Bed cover and mat

150 wheels will not fit a ranger. The bold size pattern is different
(4.5" for Ranger vs 5.5" for F-150) and the 97's had some wierd seal
or flange for mounting the wheels.....made buying custom wheels a
b*tch for a while.

Josh

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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 19:09:18 -0500
From: "Bryce T. Beyler"
Subject: Re: Ranger Manual Trans. Slave Cylinder

Check out this TSB from www,nhtsa.got.gov:

Service Bulletin Number: BC2301970501
Bulletin Sequence Number:
Date of Bulletin: 9705
NHTSA Item Number: SB052797
Make: FORD TRUCK
Model: RANGER
Year: 1997
Component: POWER TRAIN:TRANSMISSION:STANDARD:MANUAL
Summary: NEW CLUTCH SLAVE CYLINDER WITH A REDESIGNED LIP SEAL. *TW

Must be a know problem then, huh?? This sucks...I'm going to talk to the
guys at the service dept. tomorrow....There's nothing to lube outside the
cab really...a rod just goes through the firewall into the master cylinder
for the clutch and is all hydrolic from there to the inside of the
bellhousing...if it's the same thing, you'll have a honking duck sound
coming from outside, under the cab...

So, I've got my duck and my cowbell sound back...Ford can't fix the cowbell
sound either....It comes from all the play in the driveline catching
up...if you roll back a little bit and take off kinda
quick...DING!!!!...I'm also going to see how much the extended warranty is
on this thing too...

Bryce
'97 Ranger XLT 4x4 SuperCab

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> From: Mark Pawlowski
> To: fordtrucks-small ListService.net
> Subject: Re: Ranger Manual Trans. Slave Cylinder
> Date: Monday, January 05, 1998 4:31 PM
>
> As a matter of fact I'm having this same problem but didn't know it. I
was going to
> have what ever was making the noise lubed when I go in for an oil change
Thursday..
> Looks like I may be there a bit longer than I though!
>
> Bryce T. Beyler wrote:
>
> > Hello all,
> > Just wondering if anyone else is having problems with the slave
cylinder
> > in the hydrolic clutch system on a '97 Ranger. I feel mine is going
out
> > again (second time in 17.5k miles) after being replaced about 2500
miles
> > ago...It sounds like a squeaking noise when you depress and release the
> > clutch peddle. I saw a TSB (BC2301970501) that says that there was a
> > redesigned unit for this model year, so I'm gonna show it to the folks
at
> > my dealer and see what they say. I really like the truck, but if I'm
going
> > to have to have the transmission/t-case/dirveshafts pulled out and the
> > slave cylinder replaced every 2.5-3k miles, I'm gonna unload it before
the
> > warranty runs out...
> >
> > Bryce
> > '97 Ranger XLT 4x4 CuperCab
> >
> > BTW: my truck has the 4.0L V6, 5sp manual, and on-the-fly 4x4
> >
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>
>
>
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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 19:11:21 -0500
From: "Bryce T. Beyler"
Subject: Re: 4.0 dual exhausts

Don't you guys know that fog lights, stripes, stickers, oversized spoilers,
lots of chrome, and big exhaust tips make you car/truck faster ;)

Bryce
'97 Ranger XLT 4x4 SuperCab

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> From: Jordan
> To: fordtrucks-small ListService.net
> Subject: Re: 4.0 dual exhausts
> Date: Monday, January 05, 1998 4:47 PM
>
> >That is a personal pet peeve. Especially here in MI during the winter,
I
> love
> >to see all of the dual exhaust "performance" cars in the cold w/exhaust
only
> >coming steaming out of one side! ANother one is the enlarged tip on
exhausts
> >that only extends for 6" under the car attached to a regular exhaust
pipe.
> >Did somebody say rice? :)
> hahaha I know excately what you mean, that comes from people puttin a
dual
> exhaust on that is really a single with a second pipe (coming off first)
> that is not an efficient way for gasses to escape so they don't go that
> way. Yeah like I saw a truck with 1" pipes but 3 1/2 " tips pretty
stupid.
> Jordan
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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 21:30:48 EST
From: ILuvTruks
Subject: Re: fordtrucks-small-digest V1 #3

Where are you located? I could always use another gas tank :-)

In a message dated 97-12-28 23:57:24 EST, you write:

> From:vjorge off -road. com (Victor Jorge)
> Sender:owner-fordtrucks-small ListService.net
> Reply-to:fordtrucks-small ListService.net
> To:fordtrucks-small ListService.net
>
> Anybody want a free Gas tank and Skid plate assembley for and 83-92 Bronco
> II. I yanked it out to replace it with a race style fuel cell.
>

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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 22:11:50 EST
From: ILuvTruks
Subject: Re: CBs: antennas and mounting

Jerrad,
ON my BII, My CB currently has the magnet mount antenna. I plan to upgrade
soon, however, to dual mirror mount whips. Not the huge 88" whips or
anything, but like maybe somewhere between 40-60" ones. If you go mirror
mount, go dual. You get much better reception, and much farther range.
Otherwise, I don't know what to tell you. The "sporty" look could be achieved
by sticking it inside the fender well or something, but that doesn't help
transeiving with the CB. My $.02
Clay

In a message dated 97-12-30 11:07:27 EST, you write:

> I have an '84 Ranger 4x4. I am trying to find a suitable location to
> mount a CB antenna, but I don't want some humongous antenna stickin' up
> in the air. I'd rather not have a magnetic mount, and I was looking at
> mirror mount. I've seen some trucks with the mirror mounted that look
> decent, but I am afraid to do it to my truck. . I want to keep it
> somewhat sporty (the appearance that is, the 2.3L 4-cyl doesn't cut it!

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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 22:44:32 EST
From: ILuvTruks
Subject: Re: exhausted exhaust

Mike,
I have to re-do my exhaust too. Same car, engine. I was planning to go with a
free-flow "cherry Bomb" muffler or something like it (free flow). I was also
going to go with Borla Stainless steel exhaust system, but they don't make the
system for the Bronco II (the 2.9 for that matter) but they do sell plain
pipe and elbows in different lengths and sizes. I would get something that
will last a long time, but the local parts store turbo muffler should be fine.
That's my two cents for exhaust.
Spark Plugs, I used to just use autolite plugs, but lately, I have been
extreemly happy with the Champion Copper plugs. They're cheap, availiable,
and they work really well. I haven't had any problems with them. The
autolite's didn't seem to make much of a difference over the old plugs that
needed to be replaced, they also seemed to wear out much quicker than the
Champions. I believe I have a bit less hesitation with older champions than
older autolites, as well as a little better acceleration. Once again, my $.02
on plugs.
BTW, how well did the K&N help the 2.9? I was planning on getting one, but
never got around to it. I haven't found anyone with one on a BII, so I didn't
have any info anyway.
Later,
Clay

In a message dated 97-12-30 19:34:24 EST, you write:

> Hi, a quick question about exhuast. I have an '86 BroncoII 2.9Lefi.
> I'm trying to pull a little more torque out of it. I've read some good
> suggestions. I've put a K&N air filter on. I'm going to put a turbo
> muffler on. Question is, for the effect that the muffler will have on the
> 2.9L over stock, should I spend a larger some of money for a name brand
> turbo muffler or 15$ for a Summit Racing Equip. turbo? Keep in mind that
> I'm interested in torque, not speed. Also It's almost time for enother
> tuneup. Which spark plugs would you suggest and why? Thanks for any and
> all replys! -Mike

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Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 00:22:54 EST
From: Midwest96
Subject: Re: 4.0 dual exhausts

In a message dated 98-01-05 19:23:37 EST, you write:


lots of chrome, and big exhaust tips make you car/truck faster ;)

Bryce
'97 Ranger XLT 4x4 SuperCab
>>

Don't forget the cow magnets ;)

Craig {Midwest96 aol.com}

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Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 01:01:52 -0600 (CST)
From: Diana Slyter
Subject: Re: Ranger stx

I hate to ruin a nice flamefest, but you guys are right; I am a wimp who
should have bought an Escort. As far as Suburus go- not a bad design, but
I prefer something union made in America. And I have this problem- I'm
rehabbing a 110 year old house and 4 by 8 sheetrock, etc. doesn't fit to
well in an Escort. I also live on a side street in a snowbelt city and
drive home from work late at night. The city admits that it only has 2/3
of the snowplow trucks it needs. And some of those 2/3 are eligble for
ATHS historic registry. So I bought a 4wd Ranger. I'd think you guys
would be happy that I chose your favorite little pickup; I mean, I coulda
bought a Toyota (yuk!). But don't get too worried guys, In a couple years
I'll be done rehabbing and trade my wimpy Ranger for an Escort. In the
meantime I'll wave when I pass the boy racers, laid over in the ditch
because their tall truck with the lift kit and big tires couldn't stay
upright on a 1 in 3 slope.

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dianas __ __ ____ ___ ___ ____
dianas primenet.com /__)/__) / / / / /_ /\ / /_ /
/ / \ / / / / /__ / \/ /___ /-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

On Mon, 5 Jan 1998, Thom Cheney wrote:

> Diana Slyter wrote:
> >
> > The STX has usually been the top option 4wd Ranger, often jacked up a
> > couple inches higher than normal 4wd Rangers to give that "boy racer"
> > look. In this years rehash of the Ranger lineup the STX was largely
> > replaced by an "off road" package on the XLT. Having put the STX out of
> > it's misery, Ford none the less preserved one of it's worst traits by
> > jacking up all the '98 4wd Rangers by a couple of inches. So despite....


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