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fordtrucks-small-digest Monday, February 16 1998 Volume 02 : Number 048



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In this issue:

Tire discussion [Jeff Ginnow ]
Re: Tire discussion ["Dave Goldstein" ]
BII Timing [mgpkep juno.com (Michael G. Peacock)]
Re: Tire discussion ["Bryce" ]
Re: Tire discussion/99 Ranger, 4Dr, shortbed ["J. Oxley"
Re: Tire discussion [Midwest96 aol.com]
Re: Tire discussion [Bob Fiddes ]
delayed ignition [Paul Lee ]

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Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 11:33:18 -0500
From: Jeff Ginnow
Subject: Tire discussion

Can anybody comment on Firestone Wilderness AT tires as far as highway
road noise? I'm taking delivery of my '98 Explorer Sport 4x4 in a couple
of weeks and will seldom, if ever drive off road. I got the 4x4 mostly
for safety and ability to go when I have to in rain and ice, maybe
occasionally snow. It comes with P255/70R16s. (Is this about the max
size I can get on an otherwise stock vehicle? I plan on putting on the
Ford molded splash guards too, will this affect bigger tires in any
way?) Bottom line, noise is a big deal to me, climbing rocks isnt. Im
hoping that maybe if I drive strait to the tire dealer from the showroom
I can trade early and pay the difference on different tires. Am I
dreaming or has someone ever done this? Any help and recommendations for
different tires appreciated!

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Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 10:47:18 -0800
From: "Dave Goldstein"
Subject: Re: Tire discussion

Firestones are very noisy. So are Goodyears. Goodrich radial TA are less=
noisy but a better tire for bad weather. Michelins are the least noisy but=
not great off-road.

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On 2/15/98, at 11:33 AM, Jeff Ginnow wrote:

>Can anybody comment on Firestone Wilderness AT tires as far as highway
>road noise? I'm taking delivery of my '98 Explorer Sport 4x4 in a couple
>of weeks and will seldom, if ever drive off road. I got the 4x4 mostly
>for safety and ability to go when I have to in rain and ice, maybe
>occasionally snow. It comes with P255/70R16=92s. (Is this about the max
>size I can get on an otherwise stock vehicle? I plan on putting on the
>Ford molded splash guards too, will this affect bigger tires in any
>way?) Bottom line, noise is a big deal to me, climbing rocks isn=92t.=
I=92m
>hoping that maybe if I drive strait to the tire dealer from the showroom
>I can trade early and pay the difference on different tires. Am I
>dreaming or has someone ever done this? Any help and recommendations for
>different tires appreciated!
>
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Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 17:04:05 +0000
From: mgpkep juno.com (Michael G. Peacock)
Subject: BII Timing

Hows everyone? Hope OK. I've got a question about timing the BRONCO
II('86 2.9EFI). Hope you can help. I read on a Tech. board that
increasing the BTDC (like from the factory 10 degrees to 14 degrees)
increases the torque while retarding the advance increases the Top End.
To me that seems backwards. What do you think?

I also read the the computer has a knock retard function. So that
adjusting the timing probably will not make a difference. Again, what are
your thoughts?

I'm getting 30x9.50's in a week, so I want to bumb up the torque where I
can.

My E-Mail address is -- Mike edi1.com or mgpkep juno.com

THANKS A LOT OR YOUR INPUT -- MIKE

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Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 16:54:16 -0500
From: "Bryce"
Subject: Re: Tire discussion

I've got the 265/75R15 Wilderness AT tires on my '97 Ranger 4x4. They are
noisey on the highway..a good bit of buzz. I had Yokahama Mud Diggers on a
'93 Isuzu Amigo, and they were noisey too. I don't think you will get a
Mud or AT tire that is quiet. You will wave to go with an All-Season LT
tire to get what you want, I'd imagine. The Wilderness AT's seem to be
wearing fine though (at 20K miles, unlike the Firehawk GT's that Ford put
on our Contour SE that were shot long before 30K miles). Sorry, I can't
tell you what to get since I've only looked at Mud Tires for my truck and
touring tires for the Contour.

Bryce
Bryce's 4xFord Ranger Page
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.geocities.com/baja/2995

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From: Jeff Ginnow
To: fordtrucks-small listservice.net
Subject: Tire discussion
Date: Sunday, February 15, 1998 11:33 AM

Can anybody comment on Firestone Wilderness AT tires as far as highway
road noise? I'm taking delivery of my '98 Explorer Sport 4x4 in a couple
of weeks and will seldom, if ever drive off road. I got the 4x4 mostly
for safety and ability to go when I have to in rain and ice, maybe
occasionally snow. It comes with P255/70R16s. (Is this about the max
size I can get on an otherwise stock vehicle? I plan on putting on the
Ford molded splash guards too, will this affect bigger tires in any
way?) Bottom line, noise is a big deal to me, climbing rocks isnt. Im
hoping that maybe if I drive strait to the tire dealer from the showroom
I can trade early and pay the difference on different tires. Am I
dreaming or has someone ever done this? Any help and recommendations for
different tires appreciated!



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Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 19:45:54 -0500
From: "J. Oxley"
Subject: Re: Tire discussion/99 Ranger, 4Dr, shortbed

> I don't think you will get a
> Mud or AT tire that is quiet. You will wave to go with an All-Season LT
> tire to get what you want, I'd imagine.

I have 30" Bridgestone Desert Dueler AT's that are very quiet, even at
90 MPH. I have also had 32 and 35" BFG AT's on my full size bronc that
seemed very quiet also (compared to the 35 BFG muds). I agree that if
you don't need a tire for offroad, than you would probably want a AP
type tire. These are usually even quieter than the AT's and better in
the snow. The Ap's totally suck in mud.

Also, does anyone have any new info on the 99 Ranger 4dr, shortbed. I
have seen mockup photos. I want this truck, but I am annoyed they did
not put the sohc 4.0 and rear disk brakes from Explorer, on new ranger.
What is Ford thinking??

OX

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Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 20:49:11 EST
From: Midwest96 aol.com
Subject: Re: Tire discussion

'98 XLT Explorer - WIlderness ATs are quiet on this, I plan on putting them on
a 96 F150 XLT, and tested with no noticable noise. They are aggressive for
street driving, you may want a softer tread.

Craig

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Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 21:14:04 -0700
From: Bob Fiddes
Subject: Re: Tire discussion

Just put a new set of Goodyear Wrangler AT-X's on my Explorer and man what a
difference. No road noise, good ride and I've been off roading and they never
broke loose once in the desert sand and gravel. Used to use Firestone ATX and
they were noisy and then used Goodyear Wrangler AT's and they got noisy after
30K miles but the shock were too soft and caused some cupping.

Bob

Bryce wrote:

> I've got the 265/75R15 Wilderness AT tires on my '97 Ranger 4x4. They are
> noisey on the highway..a good bit of buzz. I had Yokahama Mud Diggers on a
> '93 Isuzu Amigo, and they were noisey too. I don't think you will get a
> Mud or AT tire that is quiet. You will wave to go with an All-Season LT
> tire to get what you want, I'd imagine. The Wilderness AT's seem to be
> wearing fine though (at 20K miles, unlike the Firehawk GT's that Ford put
> on our Contour SE that were shot long before 30K miles). Sorry, I can't
> tell you what to get since I've only looked at Mud Tires for my truck and
> touring tires for the Contour.
>
> Bryce
> Bryce's 4xFord Ranger Page
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.geocities.com/baja/2995
>
> ----------
> From: Jeff Ginnow
> To: fordtrucks-small listservice.net
> Subject: Tire discussion
> Date: Sunday, February 15, 1998 11:33 AM
>
> Can anybody comment on Firestone Wilderness AT tires as far as highway
> road noise? I'm taking delivery of my '98 Explorer Sport 4x4 in a couple
> of weeks and will seldom, if ever drive off road. I got the 4x4 mostly
> for safety and ability to go when I have to in rain and ice, maybe
> occasionally snow. It comes with P255/70R16s. (Is this about the max
> size I can get on an otherwise stock vehicle? I plan on putting on the
> Ford molded splash guards too, will this affect bigger tires in any
> way?) Bottom line, noise is a big deal to me, climbing rocks isnt. Im
> hoping that maybe if I drive strait to the tire dealer from the showroom
> I can trade early and pay the difference on different tires. Am I
> dreaming or has someone ever done this? Any help and recommendations for
> different tires appreciated!
>
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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 01:15:04 -0500
From: Paul Lee
Subject: delayed ignition

I have a 92 Explorer XLT, 122k miles, and it runs great. The only problem
is that it does not want to turn over when cold. I know that most cars do
this worse in cold weather, but I am talking about going ten or twelve
seconds without starting. Is this normal? If not is it easy to fix? Any
....


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