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fordtrucks-small-digest Saturday, February 7 1998 Volume 02 : Number 039



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In this issue:

Final words on 98 Ranger;Big Meats/Warranty [qzl0st tpc.natp.gmeds.com (E]
Re: Final words on 98 Ranger;Big Meats/Warranty [FastRngXLT aol.com]
Re: Final words on 98 Ranger;Big Meats/Warranty [YIASCA aol.com]
Re: Final words on 98 Ranger;Big Meats/Warranty [Thom Cheney
Re: Final words on 98 Ranger;Big Meats/Warranty [qzl0st tpc.natp.gmeds.co]
Re: Final words on 98 Ranger;Big Meats/Warranty [Ernie Hannig
Re: Final words on 98 Ranger;Big Meats/Warranty [Midwest96 aol.com]
re: 98 Ranger with P265s [KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)]
Re: fordtrucks-small-digest V2 #38 [Bill Funk ]
Re: Air/intake, Cold or Hot? [Bill Funk ]
Re: Air/intake, Cold or Hot? [FastRngXLT aol.com]
Re: fordtrucks-small-digest V2 #38 [Dwwinn aol.com]

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Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 10:08:25 -0500
From: qzl0st tpc.natp.gmeds.com (EI - Michael Ioco)
Subject: Final words on 98 Ranger;Big Meats/Warranty

> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 12:49:50 -0500
> From: qzl0st tpc.natp.gmeds.com (EI - Michael Ioco)
> To: fordtrucks-small ListService.net
> Subject: 98 Ranger;Big Meats/Warranty
>
> Well I just got a call from my salesman at Ford. My 98 Ranger 4x4 SC, ORP is
> IN! Complete with chrome 16" Tri-spoke wheels and ....235's.
>

Test drove the truck yesterday, and it's mine today!! Pretty sharp truck. The
235's do look a little small for the truck, but the 16" wheels make up for it.
Especially since they are chrom and the truck is black.

What my salesman said, is that the 265's are NOT available with the new 5 Speed
AUTO tranny. So those of you that do have the 265's on a 97 or 98, let me know
if you have the 5 Speed Auto, or if my Ford is messing with me again.
Supposedly, the new tranny cannot handle spinning the 265's.

I was pretty impressed with the new tranny. I'm so used to the shift points in
my Explorer, when I drove the Ranger I kept letting up on the accelerator to
encourage it to shift, but it just wanted to keep going. So even though there's
an extra gear, it seems to rev a lot higher before shifting. Definately not a
dog!

So the details are; Black, 98 Ranger 4x4 SuperCab, Off Road Package, 16"
wheels-235 tires, 5-speed Auto with OD, sliding rear window, CD Player, Titanium
interior-60/40 split bench, oversized Sunroof, and all the other usual goodies
like power windows/locks, cruise and keyless entry.


Mike in Michigan
96 Explorer Sport 4x4 being replaced by 98 Ranger SC 4x4 ORP SOON!!!
97 F-150 SC 4x4 ORP

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Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 10:13:50 EST
From: FastRngXLT aol.com
Subject: Re: Final words on 98 Ranger;Big Meats/Warranty

In a message dated 98-02-06 10:08:06 EST, you write:


The
235's do look a little small for the truck, but the 16" wheels make up for
it.
Especially since they are chrom and the truck is black.

What my salesman said, is that the 265's are NOT available with the new 5
Speed
AUTO tranny. So those of you that do have the 265's on a 97 or 98, let me
know
if you have the 5 Speed Auto, or if my Ford is messing with me again.
Supposedly, the new tranny cannot handle spinning the 265's.

I was pretty impressed with the new tranny. I'm so used to the shift points
in
my Explorer, when I drove the Ranger I kept letting up on the accelerator to
encourage it to shift, but it just wanted to keep going. So even though
there's
an extra gear, it seems to rev a lot higher before shifting. Definately not
a
dog!

So the details are; Black, 98 Ranger 4x4 SuperCab, Off Road Package, 16"
wheels-235 tires, 5-speed Auto with OD, sliding rear window, CD Player,
Titanium
interior-60/40 split bench, oversized Sunroof, and all the other usual
goodies
like power windows/locks, cruise and keyless entry. >>

What rear axle ratio did you get? I wouldnt see why the 5spd auto wouldnt
turn it with the proper gear set. Though I could be wrong.

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Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 10:18:24 EST
From: YIASCA aol.com
Subject: Re: Final words on 98 Ranger;Big Meats/Warranty

In a message dated 98-02-06 10:16:16 EST, you write:


turn it with the proper gear set. Though I could be wrong. >>

Manuals pretty much suck these days even with a 4 X 4.

nuff said!
Dave

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Date: Fri, 06 Feb 1998 07:43:51 -0800
From: Thom Cheney
Subject: Re: Final words on 98 Ranger;Big Meats/Warranty

EI - Michael Ioco wrote:
>
> What my salesman said, is that the 265's are NOT available with the new 5 Speed
> AUTO tranny. So those of you that do have the 265's on a 97 or 98, let me know
> if you have the 5 Speed Auto, or if my Ford is messing with me again.
> Supposedly, the new tranny cannot handle spinning the 265's.
>

Congratulations on the new truck!! Hope you like yours as much as I
like mine. I looked at another '97 STX with the 265/ tire package and
the 5spd auto before choosing my truck, so I am pretty sure it was
available in '97.

TC

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Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 11:01:03 -0500
From: qzl0st tpc.natp.gmeds.com (EI - Michael Ioco)
Subject: Re: Final words on 98 Ranger;Big Meats/Warranty

I did get the 3.73 Limited slip.....

Supposedly Ford is having problems with seals blowing or something of that
sort...

> From owner-fordtrucks-small ListService.net Fri Feb 6 10:20 EST 1998
> From: YIASCA aol.com
>
> In a message dated 98-02-06 10:16:16 EST, you write:
>
>
> turn it with the proper gear set. Though I could be wrong. >>
>
> Manuals pretty much suck these days even with a 4 X 4.
>
> nuff said!
> Dave

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Date: Fri, 06 Feb 1998 10:15:15 -0600
From: Ernie Hannig
Subject: Re: Final words on 98 Ranger;Big Meats/Warranty

At 10:13 AM 2/6/1998 EST, you wrote:
>In a message dated 98-02-06 10:08:06 EST, you write:
>
>
>The
> 235's do look a little small for the truck, but the 16" wheels make up for
>it.
> Especially since they are chrom and the truck is black.
>
> What my salesman said, is that the 265's are NOT available with the new 5
>Speed
> AUTO tranny. So those of you that do have the 265's on a 97 or 98, let me
>know
> if you have the 5 Speed Auto, or if my Ford is messing with me again.
> Supposedly, the new tranny cannot handle spinning the 265's.
>

That might be true with the 16 inch wheels (I think someone posted something
to this effect). You can get a 98 4x4 with the 5-speed auto trans/4.0 engine
and 265 tires on 15 inch wheels (that's how mine came from the factory).

Have fun!
Ernie Hannig
Associate Professor
Department of Molecular and Cell Biology
The University of Texas at Dallas
Mailstop FO3.1
P.O. Box 830688
Richardson, TX 75083-0688
(972) 883-2505 (office)
(972) 883-2409 FAX
email hannig utdallas.edu

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Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 11:23:09 EST
From: Midwest96 aol.com
Subject: Re: Final words on 98 Ranger;Big Meats/Warranty

In a message dated 98-02-06 10:20:34 EST, you write:



nuff said!
Dave >>

I would tend to disagree with that. I have a 5sp w/3.73 (straight 6), and I
do just find against almost anything. My friend has a 98 Explorer w/4x4 (no
idea size or ratio), and there's almost nothing he can't beat out. Top speeds
are pretty much the same, but the acceleration of a manual shifted right will
never be matched by an auto. I you think about it, how many autos run in pro
racing?

Craig

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Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 13:40:36, -0500
From: KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)
Subject: re: 98 Ranger with P265s

You can get a '98 4x4 with P265/75R15s. You must have a 4.0L and a 3.
73 ratio, but the tranny doesn't matter.

Josh

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Date: Fri, 06 Feb 1998 12:00:27 -0700
From: Bill Funk
Subject: Re: fordtrucks-small-digest V2 #38

> From: qzl0st tpc.natp.gmeds.com (EI - Michael Ioco)
> Subject: 98 Ranger;Big Meats/Warranty
>
> Well I just got a call from my salesman at Ford. My 98 Ranger 4x4 SC,
> ORP is
> IN! Complete with chrome 16" Tri-spoke wheels and ....235's.
>
> My salesman had me all lined up with aftermarket 255's for $100.
> (255's as
> opposed to 265's because of the 16" wheel.) Everything was fine and
> dandy,
> until he looked into it a little more. He was told by the head of the
> service
> department that exceeding the recomended tire size (in the case of a
> 4x4 Off
> Road, 16" wheels and 235's), the warranty would no longer be honored.
>
> What a bummer. He said this was the case with if you exceed the
> recommended
> tire size on any vehicle.
>
> FEEDBACK PLEASE!!!

...

> Mike in Michigan

That's what they want you to believe.
Federal law says different. Any warranty service they want to disallow
must be proven to be from the modifications in order for them to
disallow the repairs under warranty.
Your mileage may differ, I'm not a lawyer. Any law library should be
able to help you look it up for yourself.

Bill Funk

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Date: Fri, 06 Feb 1998 12:10:57 -0700
From: Bill Funk
Subject: Re: Air/intake, Cold or Hot?

> From: FastRngXLT aol.com
> Subject: Air/intake, Cold or Hot?
>
> With all the talk about improving performance of an engine buy
> upgrading your
> intake, I have a question mabey some of you could help out with. I
> have tried
> several upgrades on my Ranger with a 3.0L V6 engine, my last being a
> ram air
> type setup. I havent really noticed much increase in performance much,
> if any.
> I have seen a "open air" element K&N filter avalible for the 4.0L
> Exlporer/Ranger, but I am wondering how efficent the open air filter
> is.
> Everyone says that a engine will benifit most when it gets a cold,
> straight
> induction to make fuel burn quicker and effeciant. If so, whats the
> deal with
> K&N selling an open air filter that resides under the hood where air
> temps are
> the hottest? The only thing I can think of from looking at the
> pictures in the
> book with on installed is that it sits pretty close the the edge of
> the engine
> bay, mabey the added air/breathing conditions are better due to the
> fan
> spinning air into it?
>
> Brian

Cold air is denser than hot air. While this means there's no practical
difference in the air/fuel mixture between using hot or cold air
(remember, fuel is added to the air by *mass*, not density), it does
make a difference when it comes to how much air/fuel charge is put into
the cylinders. Cold air, being denser, means there's actually more
air/fuel by mass than hot air *per volume*, so cold air packs more
punch, so to speak.
The drawback to cold-air induction is that, unless it's done close to
the carb/intake, the tubing can add restrictions, actually lessening the
amount of air/fuel getting into the cylinder. (Look at the NASCAR cars,
and you'll see the induction is at the rear of the hood, with baffling
todirect the cold air directly into the air filter, for just this
reason.)
Hope this helps.

Bill Funk

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Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 14:43:20 EST
From: FastRngXLT aol.com
Subject: Re: Air/intake, Cold or Hot?

In a message dated 98-02-06 14:05:33 EST, you write:


difference in the air/fuel mixture between using hot or cold air
(remember, fuel is added to the air by *mass*, not density), it does
make a difference when it comes to how much air/fuel charge is put into
the cylinders. Cold air, being denser, means there's actually more
air/fuel by mass than hot air *per volume*, so cold air packs more
punch, so to speak.
The drawback to cold-air induction is that, unless it's done close to
the carb/intake, the tubing can add restrictions, actually lessening the
amount of air/fuel getting into the cylinder. (Look at the NASCAR cars,
and you'll see the induction is at the rear of the hood, with baffling
todirect the cold air directly into the air filter, for just this
reason.)
Hope this helps.

Bill Funk >>

Yes, Bill, thank you for your help.

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Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 23:03:11 EST
From: Dwwinn aol.com
Subject: Re: fordtrucks-small-digest V2 #38

In a message dated 98-02-06 06:52:41 EST, you write:


your
intake, I have a question mabey some of you could help out with. I have tried
several upgrades on my Ranger with a 3.0L V6 engine, my last being a ram air
type setup. I havent really noticed much increase in performance much, if
any.
I have seen a "open air" element K&N filter avalible for the 4.0L
Exlporer/Ranger, but I am wondering how efficent the open air filter is.
Everyone says that a engine will benifit most when it gets a cold, straight
induction to make fuel burn quicker and effeciant. If so, whats the deal with
K&N selling an open air filter that resides under the hood where air temps
are
the hottest? The only thing I can think of from looking at the pictures in
the
book with on installed is that it sits pretty close the the edge of the
engine
bay, mabey the added air/breathing conditions are better due to the fan
spinning air into it?

Brian >>

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