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fordtrucks-small-digest Friday, January 30 1998 Volume 02 : Number 031



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In this issue:

RE: Digital Dash ["Livingston, Michael" ]
FW: 1998 Explorer questions ["Roberson, John" ]
Re: FW: 1998 Explorer questions [Andrew Webber ]
Re: Factory Defects in my '97 Ranger XLT [Thom Cheney
throttle body [Dan Morache ]
Re: FW: 1998 Explorer questions [Uri Blumenthal ]
RE: FW: 1998 Explorer questions ["Roberson, John" ]
Re: FW: 1998 Explorer questions [KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)]
Re: Factory Defects in my '97 Ranger XLT [Mark Pawlowski
Re: Factory Defects in my '97 Ranger XLT ["Bryce" ]
re: FW: 1998 Explorer questions [KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)]
Re: fordtrucks-small-digest V2 #30 [Dwwinn aol.com]
Re: fordtrucks-small-digest V2 #30 ["Bryce" ]
Re: fordtrucks-small-digest V2 #30 [Nathan Heid ]
Re: fordtrucks-small-digest V2 #30 [YIASCA aol.com]
Re: FW: 1998 Explorer questions [Midwest96 aol.com]

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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 07:50:49 -0500
From: "Livingston, Michael"
Subject: RE: Digital Dash

Try Dakota Digital (nice article in Feb '98 Truckin' magazine).
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.dakotadigital.com

Mike

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> Subject:Digital Dash
>
> Does anybody know of a company that makes digital dashes for an '84
> Ranger? If so, what is the approx cost?
>
> Thanx
> Jerad
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 09:08:44 -0500
From: "Roberson, John"
Subject: FW: 1998 Explorer questions

Another try
John Roberson
Channel Marketing Manager
978-952-5661
978-952-5824 Fax
978-952-5028 Private Fax
jroberson xyplex.com
www.xyplex.com

> ----------
> From: Roberson, John
> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 1998 5:53 PM
> To: Ford email
> Subject: 1998 Explorer questions
>
> I have just purchased another Explorer to replace my 1994 limited.
> This
> one is a 1998 Limited. they have made some changes that have stumped
> the dealers.
> 1. Auto lock - How do I disengage the autolock feature? The truck
> auto
> locks when ignition turned on and put in drive. Stop the truck, turn
> off ignition and get out the doors. All doors remain locked including
> liftgate until opened from the INSIDE. Inconvenient when I want to
> stop
> the truck, and get something out of the back door or liftgate. I need
> to go back to drivers door and press the U to unlock all doors.
>
> 2. What happened to the light that used to be under the hood? Is it
> an
> option now?
> 3. What happened to the light in the glove box? Option now?
> 4. How do I fill the rear windshield washer tank? Is there one like
> there used to be? Is it via the front fill tank under the hood? If
> so,
> isn't it more likely to freeze if runs thru the roof?
> The dealers are giving "best guess" answers since the truck is new
> and
> no has asked before.
> Any help is appreciated.
> Thanks, JAR
> John Roberson
> Channel Marketing Manager
> 978-952-5661
> 978-952-5824 Fax
> 978-952-5028 Private Fax
> jroberson xyplex.com
> www.xyplex.com
>

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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 09:37:16 -0500
From: Andrew Webber
Subject: Re: FW: 1998 Explorer questions

At 09:08 AM 29-01-1998 -0500, you wrote:
>Another try
>John Roberson
>Channel Marketing Manager
>978-952-5661
>978-952-5824 Fax
>978-952-5028 Private Fax
>jroberson xyplex.com
>www.xyplex.com

I can't help since I'm still driving my 91, but have you tried

(a) the Ford 800 number [I know they were useless when we had a question
about tires, I'm sure they just read the manual to us, just like most
software support these days :( ]

or

(b) does Haynes have a manual on the 98 yet? I noticed on their website
they only go up to 95.


andrew
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 07:49:27 -0800
From: Thom Cheney
Subject: Re: Factory Defects in my '97 Ranger XLT

I believe the Lemon Laws are more geared toward serious mechanical
flaws. Things that you would not have been able to see. Technically,
everything you described as flaws with the truck (except the leaky
glovebox), you should have seen (or heard) before you bought it.

So far my '97 Ranger has passed the off-road test, the road trip test,
and the highly inspective wash inside and out test. I am still pleased
with the overall build quality and performance of the truck.

Sorry your experience has not been better. Good luck getting it all put
right.

TC

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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 09:21:14 -0800
From: Dan Morache
Subject: throttle body

Does anyone know where I can find a new throttle body for an '87 2.9
ranger, either high performance or stock? Any info is appreciated.

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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 12:30:22 -0500 (EST)
From: Uri Blumenthal
Subject: Re: FW: 1998 Explorer questions

> > This one is a 1998 Limited.
> > 1. Auto lock - How do I disengage the autolock feature?

The exact procedure is described in the Owner's Manual. But...

> > Inconvenient when I want to stop
> > the truck, and get something out of the back door or liftgate. I need
> > to go back to drivers door and press the U to unlock all doors.

With the autolock on - yes you have to press U before you can open the
liftgate, but WHAT'S THE BIG DEAL?

>From where you sit, it is just a button-push away:
- stop the truck;
- put it in Park and REMOVE YOUR FOOT FROM THE BRAKE;
- NOW press U and all the doors are unlocked UNTIL you
press the brake pedal again!

> > 2. What happened to the light that used to be under the hood?

No idea - suspect it's just gone.

> > 3. What happened to the light in the glove box? Option now?

I'm afraid it is gone too.

> > 4. How do I fill the rear windshield washer tank? Is there one like
> > there used to be? Is it via the front fill tank under the hood? If
> > so, isn't it more likely to freeze if runs thru the roof?

I *think* there's just one tank, in the front. At least I couldn't spot
that elusive "rear window washer tank". Can it freeze? I doubt - since
it's not water that you're filling it with.

Anybody cares to comment?
- --
Regards,
Uriuri watson.ibm.com
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 15:55:26 -0500
From: "Roberson, John"
Subject: RE: FW: 1998 Explorer questions

The auto lock/unlock in the manual does not accomplish what I am asking.
Thanks for your response anyway.
John
John Roberson
Channel Marketing Manager
978-952-5661
978-952-5824 Fax
978-952-5028 Private Fax
jroberson xyplex.com
www.xyplex.com

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> From: Uri Blumenthal[SMTP:uri watson.ibm.com]
> Reply To: fordtrucks-small ListService.net
> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 1998 12:30 PM
> To: fordtrucks-small ListService.net
> Subject: Re: FW: 1998 Explorer questions
>
> > > This one is a 1998 Limited.
> > > 1. Auto lock - How do I disengage the autolock feature?
>
> The exact procedure is described in the Owner's Manual. But...
>
> > > Inconvenient when I want to stop
> > > the truck, and get something out of the back door or liftgate. I
> need
> > > to go back to drivers door and press the U to unlock all doors.
>
> With the autolock on - yes you have to press U before you can open the
> liftgate, but WHAT'S THE BIG DEAL?
>
> From where you sit, it is just a button-push away:
> - stop the truck;
> - put it in Park and REMOVE YOUR FOOT FROM THE BRAKE;
> - NOW press U and all the doors are unlocked UNTIL you
> press the brake pedal again!
>
> > > 2. What happened to the light that used to be under the hood?
>
> No idea - suspect it's just gone.
>
> > > 3. What happened to the light in the glove box? Option now?
>
> I'm afraid it is gone too.
>
> > > 4. How do I fill the rear windshield washer tank? Is there one
> like
> > > there used to be? Is it via the front fill tank under the hood?
> If
> > > so, isn't it more likely to freeze if runs thru the roof?
>
> I *think* there's just one tank, in the front. At least I couldn't
> spot
> that elusive "rear window washer tank". Can it freeze? I doubt - since
> it's not water that you're filling it with.
>
> Anybody cares to comment?
> --
> Regards,
> Uriuri watson.ibm.com
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 16:00:41, -0500
From: KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)
Subject: Re: FW: 1998 Explorer questions

Some answers:

1. I doubt there is a way to disengage the autolock. There may be a
fuse to remove.

2. The bulb under the hood was removed. I have a '98 ranger and it
was deleted for this year

3. The glove box light must be deleted, too.

4. Check your owners manual, but I think the filler is in the rear
of the truck now. I'll double check on my mom's '98 Eddie Bauer.

Josh

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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 13:25:31 -0800
From: Mark Pawlowski
Subject: Re: Factory Defects in my '97 Ranger XLT

I also have a 97 XLT with the 4 cyl. engine and manual trans. I had the slave
cyl. in the clutch replaced without any problems at all. Also I have a stripe
kit as part of the options but there was not a strip on the tailgate. I was
shown a TSB from Ford that says even though it's listed in the $1500.00 option
section as strip kit, you don't get a strip on your gate. I was told at the
dealer body shop that if I wanted a strip I would have to buy the "Strip Kit"
for $300.00 to get that tailgate stripe.

I went back to the service dept. and spoke to a manager and got the stripe put
on for free.

Also.. today, I was hit by a flying something or other that came off of a dump
truck's flat bed trailer. This what ever it was (most likely a rock) broke the
fiberglass part that's under your head lights in the grill. It's the part that's
painted the same color as your truck. I went to Allstate and they wrote it up as
to replace that part and the grill too. The guy thought he saw a crack in my
grill where it's next to the driver's headlight and is the grill and chrome
part. I looked at it and it looks okay to me, just the way it came out of the
mold. The total to replace the grill and that part under the grill, with paint
and labor at a Ford Body shop is $427.07. I'm not having that $84.00 grill part
replaced, that's going into my pocket or I should say towards next months
insurance bill payment .

All in all I like my Ranger XLT SC. I get in the low 20's MPG, I just filled up
and got 22.2 MPG. I drive 75 miles a day round trip to work/home on Oregon
country and freeway roads.. The truck rides great and after installing four Sony
5x6 speakers, a Sony 10 pack CD changer and a Tape/AM/FM/ Head end for the CD
unit and an AMP along with a Bazooka tube I can REALLY hear the news/road
reports

It's the dealer that you're going to that's giving you the run-around. I had a
Taurus GL and traded that in for a 95 SHO and now this Ranger, all from the same
dealer and I have had all three of them into the shop for one thing or another
and it was always fixed, if it was going to take more than a day I was given a
loaner car or taken to a rental place and they paid for the car. I'm happy.

Good Luck and if you have a 5 speed manual trans, while they have your Ranger in
the shop, if it makes a squeak noise or sounds like you just stepped on a
Goose's head when putting the clutch in or out then you have that slave cyl.
replaced while they have your truck. It takes about a day to do that job.

Mark

goodmoore wrote:

> I purchased a NEW '97 Ranger XLT from a San Francisco dealership in
> November. Initially I was thrilled with the truck, then I noticed some
> production flaws like paint problems on the hood and driver's door, a high
> pitched squeal in the engine, unfinished upholstery in the cab, and a glove
> box that leaks water! The dealer assured me that all of the issues are
> covered by warranty and would be repaired at no cost to me, but they have
> been less than aggressive about getting the repairs done. The truck has
> already been in their shop for a total of seven days and this morning I
> dropped it off for four more. I am almost ready to start looking into Lemon
> Laws.
>
> Has anyone else had problems with their '97 tucks? Have the dealerships
> been just as lax in responding?
>
> Any advice on what I should do? At what time do I just demand a different
> truck?
>
> Thanks for any help you can offer!
>
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 19:08:38 -0500
From: "Bryce"
Subject: Re: Factory Defects in my '97 Ranger XLT

I too have a '97 Ranger and have had some "growing pains" with it...but the
dealer has been completely on my side. Infact, the service guy and rental
guy know me on a first name basis, now. Look at my page for my service
history on the truck, all has been covered under warranty with the
exception of broken glass, which was covered by insurance. Maybe you
should find a diffarent dealer to service your car...just because you
bought it there doesn't mean you have to have it serviced there...my dealer
has been more than happy to work and have done good jobs on my friends cars
that I've sent to them (warranty work or not).

As far as lemon law goes, I beleive in GA, it's got to be withing the first
12,000 miles and a safety related or major mechanical problem and in the
shope multiple times for the same problem...many little things do not meet
the criteria. I've heard many people moan about using the lemon law on
their X-brand POS before, but have yet to find somebody go through with
it...

Bryce
Bryce's 4xFord Ranger Page
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.geocities.com/baja/2995

> goodmoore wrote:
>
> > I purchased a NEW '97 Ranger XLT from a San Francisco dealership in
> > November. Initially I was thrilled with the truck, then I noticed some
> > production flaws like paint problems on the hood and driver's door, a
high
> > pitched squeal in the engine, unfinished upholstery in the cab, and a
glove
> > box that leaks water! The dealer assured me that all of the issues are
> > covered by warranty and would be repaired at no cost to me, but they
have
> > been less than aggressive about getting the repairs done. The truck
has
> > already been in their shop for a total of seven days and this morning I
> > dropped it off for four more. I am almost ready to start looking into
Lemon
> > Laws.
> >
> > Has anyone else had problems with their '97 tucks? Have the
dealerships
> > been just as lax in responding?
> >
> > Any advice on what I should do? At what time do I just demand a
different
> > truck?
> >
> > Thanks for any help you can offer!
> >

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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 19:14:38, -0500
From: KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)
Subject: re: FW: 1998 Explorer questions

John,

An answer to #3 & #4:

3. The light in the glove box is gone.

4. To fill the rear washer tank, you must fill it from under the
hood.

Josh

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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 20:03:39 EST
From: Dwwinn aol.com
Subject: Re: fordtrucks-small-digest V2 #30

I'm interested in putting in a K&N airfilter in my 97 3.0 Ranger. I've seen
various notes about "cone filters" and modifications to the air intake
systems. What's the best way to use a K&N filter to garner the most
horsepower and torque improvement?
What's the best filter type (cone, non-cone) to use, and do I have to do any
modification to even use a K&N? Any help would be appreciated.

Jon

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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 20:40:29 -0500
From: "Bryce"
Subject: Re: fordtrucks-small-digest V2 #30

You can get a replacement air filter element for your truck that exactly
replaces the stock unit. This is the easiest, since it is just a drop in
replacement for the original...I'm not sure about other methods that use
the cone filters, but I do know that it would require some kind of
modification to the intake. Use of the oiled filters, like a K&N, void the
warranty of newer Fords (they say the oil can gum up sensors in the
intake), so hang onto your old paper element for when you take it to the
dealer. I didn't notice an increase in power, but it seems to accelerate
smoother now, and I'll save a lot by being able to clean it rather than
buying replacements.

Bryce
Bryce's 4xFord Ranger Page
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.geocities.com/baja/2995

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> From: Dwwinn aol.com
> To: fordtrucks-small ListService.net;
fordtrucks-small-digest ListService.net
> Subject: Re: fordtrucks-small-digest V2 #30
> Date: Thursday, January 29, 1998 8:03 PM
>
> I'm interested in putting in a K&N airfilter in my 97 3.0 Ranger. I've
seen
> various notes about "cone filters" and modifications to the air intake
> systems. What's the best way to use a K&N filter to garner the most
> horsepower and torque improvement?
> What's the best filter type (cone, non-cone) to use, and do I have to do
any
> modification to even use a K&N? Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Jon
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 21:34:38 -0500
From: Nathan Heid
Subject: Re: fordtrucks-small-digest V2 #30

At 08:40 PM 1/29/98 -0500, you wrote:
Use of the oiled filters, like a K&N, void the
>warranty of newer Fords (they say the oil can gum up sensors in the
>intake),

Is this true? K&N claims that manufacturers cannot void a warranty over
this. Additionally I've heard that the new V-6 Mustangs come from the
factory with oiled filters. Has anyone else heard this?

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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 22:47:44 EST
From: YIASCA aol.com
Subject: Re: fordtrucks-small-digest V2 #30

In a message dated 98-01-29 20:35:38 EST, you write:


seen
various notes about "cone filters" and modifications to the air intake
systems. What's the best way to use a K&N filter to garner the most
horsepower and torque improvement?
What's the best filter type (cone, non-cone) >>


I HAVE A 2 MONTH OLD K&N FILTER NOT DIRT AT ALL, I MODIFIED MY AIR FILTER TO
USE A RAM AIR KIT, AND THE FILTER WILL NOT WORK. YOU CAN ONLY USE A CONE TYPE
THAT FITS YOUR TRUCK, YOU CAN'T PICK THE FILTER TO USE.

IF YOU WANT THE FILTER IT'S $20 SHIPPED TO YOUR DOOR! LET ME KNOW:

YIASCA ....


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