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fordtrucks-small-digest Thursday, March 19 1998 Volume 02 : Number 083



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In this issue:

Re: I wonder? [Garr & Pam ]
Re: I wonder? [james oxley ]
Re: I wonder? [Thom Cheney ]
Re: T-5 Help ["Bryan Snyder" ]
Re: Ranger 9x tachometer question [S-10 Killer ]
RE: Bronco II tranny problems? ["Pete Lawless" ]
RE: Suggestions/ Dana 44 ["Pete Lawless" ]
RE: Bronco II tranny problems? [Nathan Heid ]
RE: I wonder? ["Maurer, Robert M." ]
ADMIN: Seeking assistance [Ken Payne ]
Re: Bronco II tranny problems? [Tom Test ]
Re: I wonder? [Jordan ]
RE: I wonder? [Jordan ]
4.0L Ranger performance upgrade [Richard Salitra ]
Re: 4.0L Ranger performance upgrade [Scott Parent ]

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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 07:47:48 +0000
From: Garr & Pam
Subject: Re: I wonder?

Jordan wrote:
>
> >
> >Hope that did not sound like a flame...just stating how I feel. Opinions
> >are like a**holes everyone has one!
> >Chris
> no prob, just constructive agumentation. I don't take offense easily.
> P.S. Where do you live, I'm in Texas and you said come down.... I am pretty
> far down. I need to drop a 302 in my explorer, maybe this summer....
> Jordan
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I have a Ford Lightning 351W with Gt40 heads and intake. I am in
Maryland...I have an aunt that lives in Texas. I had a ranger Splash
that was why I was on this list if you were wondering and I was going to
do a 5.0 swap too but I found the lightning and traded it in!
Chris

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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:07:44 -0800
From: james oxley
Subject: Re: I wonder?

Garr & Pam wrote:
>
> Jordan wrote:
> >
> > >Thats just the point..how long will that subaru hold up if you keep
> > >leaping off line with revs all the way up and all 4 wheels biting
> > >asphalt...I don't think it will hold up to that kind of torture but if
> > >you go easy on it you will get beat because it has no power down low.
> > >To go fast you have to drive hard(REAL HARD)
> > >Try doing a rolling start race...or changing the subaru to 2 wheel drive
> > >on better yet add all wheel drive to the Z rev it up drop the clutch get
> > >to the finish line turn around and watch for the subaru to cross!
> > >Chris
> > I don't mean to be cruel but.... First of all the Subaru is faster, both
> > cars must be driven hard to win the race so that factor doesn't matter.
> > Second both firebirds and camaro's (and mustangs) have terrible repair
> > histories, the subaru's look good so far. And face it I could say what if
> > my explorer had all wheel drive and was twin supercharged then it could
> > beat anything as it is I'll just have to stick with beating up on base
> > mustangs (I have a standard) heh heh.


I race an AWD turbo talon and turbo equipped, 5.0 capri. The Talon
leaves the line much harder than anyhting I've ever owned. It also breaks
drivetrain parts and eats up clutches. You can't ask drivetrain parts to
hold up to these stresses when they were designed with relatively low
torque engines in mind. I power shift my 5.0 all the time, but would
never even think about it in the talon. Trannies are 2200$ for the talon
and about 350$, used in good shape, for the 5.0. You are gonna break more
parts racing a Subaru than the Camaro, it's just a fact. It is a rush to
completely embarress (off the line) a big tired, loud V-8 with a car that
borders on an econo-box and runs smallish, all season, perf tires. With a
good clutch, my talon typically runs 1.7, 60' times vs my Capri running
2.3, 60 foot times on street radials. Just for reference, my talon runs
12.9 104 MPH and the capri runs 13.7 107 MPH.

OX

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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 07:11:46 -0800
From: Thom Cheney
Subject: Re: I wonder?

james oxley wrote:

> It is a rush to
> completely embarress (off the line) a big tired, loud V-8 with a car that
> borders on an econo-box and runs smallish, all season, perf tires. With a
> good clutch, my talon typically runs 1.7, 60' times vs my Capri running
> 2.3, 60 foot times on street radials. Just for reference, my talon runs
> 12.9 104 MPH and the capri runs 13.7 107 MPH.

ah yes, I remember riding in my friend's '63 VW bug.... the one with the
1860 CC engine. The one that turned low 13's in the 1/4 mile.... with
the "rag top" open. Greatest moment of glory.... catching and passing a
Ferrari 308 with 2 lovely blondes.

...now back to Ranger & Explorer stuff.....
>

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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 07:50:50 PST
From: "Bryan Snyder"
Subject: Re: T-5 Help

I think the $800 adapter you are refering to is the transfer case
adapter, which you don't need in a 2wd. I have the current Advance
Adapters and james duff catalogs (Which are great by the way!) and the
T-5 adapter in Duff's catalog is to adapt the T-5 to the standard
transfer case. You should not need it if you have a 2wd.

Hope this helps,
Bryan

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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:05:50 -0600 (CST)
From: S-10 Killer
Subject: Re: Ranger 9x tachometer question

Nope, on the 96, the tach signal wire is on the fuse box in the engine
bay. There are two wire that are on the box. Its the wire with only 1
prong at the end of it.

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2.3L, SVO OHC
S-10 Killer
GT-40 Ranger
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On Mon, 16 Mar 1998, William Street wrote:

> It's probably similar to my 90 2.3L. There should be a tach connector on the drivers side
> of the engine. It's located between the alternator and the TFI module bolted to the intake
> runners - it's a short pigtail with a single wire and a plugged connector. There is another
> pigtail with a couple of wires and a shorting plug but that's not it.
>
>
>
> Jonathan Sherman wrote:
>
> > I just got a 96 Ranger (2.3L) and would like to add a tachometer to it. I
> > figure I'll just mount a mini-tach to the steering column. What do I need to
> > do to access the proper hookups? Also, is this information available
> > anywhere, like the service manual? Thanks...
> >
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> > -= I'm all alone, more or less... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 08:54:12 -0800
From: "Pete Lawless"
Subject: RE: Bronco II tranny problems?

Michael Rule wrote:
>I've heard some horror stories about transmission problems.

The Mitzubishi 5 speed in my '88 Ranger went for 145,000+ miles of
not-so-gentle (lots of wheeling) use with little maintance before I
replaced it. My understanding of the biggest problem on these is that a
couple rubber plugs on the top of the transmission dry out and allow the
lose of oil. These should be replaced with metal plugs. The new re-built
that I bought has the metal plugs. If your buying a BII with a 5speed, take
a whiff near the base of the stickshift boot to detect the aroma of 90W.

Later.... Pete

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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:27:07 -0800
From: "Pete Lawless"
Subject: RE: Suggestions/ Dana 44

Fitzy-
I second the motion to swap out the Dana 28 and Ford 7.5. Even without the
302 these will not hold up to the torque generated by the lower gears
(4.56's), larger tires (33's or 35's) and posi's or lockers that rock
crawling will require. I'm running a lightly modified 2.9ltr and I've
proven this with exploded ring & pinions in the rear and broken axles and
axle u-joints up front. I swapped in a Ford 8.8 with very good results but
still need to get rid of the Dana 28 and am researching which direction to
go.
Can you give some more details on your Dana 44 swap like: Approx cost;
problems you ran into; highway manners; etc. Also, sounds like your drive
train is non-stock front to back, I'm running stock transmission, t-case
and drivelines.
Thanks... Pete

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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 14:47:50 -0500
From: Nathan Heid
Subject: RE: Bronco II tranny problems?

>The Mitzubishi 5 speed in my '88 Ranger went for 145,000+ miles of
>not-so-gentle (lots of wheeling) use with little maintance before I
>replaced it. My understanding of the biggest problem on these is that a
>couple rubber plugs on the top of the transmission dry out and allow the
>lose of oil. These should be replaced with metal plugs. The new re-built
>that I bought has the metal plugs. If your buying a BII with a 5speed, take
>a whiff near the base of the stickshift boot to detect the aroma of 90W.

How exactly do I get to these plugs and where do I get replacements.
The 5-speed in my '87 2wd Ranger loses about a pint of oil in 6000 miles.
I've never been able to determine exactly where it's comming from.
Also is it harmful to replace the gear oil without adding the Ford
"friction modifier"? where can I get the additive (Ford dealer only?)

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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 18:46:06 -0500
From: "Maurer, Robert M."
Subject: RE: I wonder?

Jordan wrote:

> I don't mean to be cruel but.... First of all the Subaru is faster,
both

Let's see. A stock production Camaro/Firebird runs high 13's, and with
the SS/WS6 package it runs low 13's at about 105+ MPH (Cobra is in that
ballpark). So therefore a Subaru must be capable of running 12's??
Heck with my Mustang GT, I'm going to the local Subaru dealer and
trading for one of those family drag racing machines. You seem to be
missing the other part of the speed equation, horsepower. Yes I agree
that an all-wheel drive car will launch quicker, but eventually the 150+
horsepower advantage will take over. The horsepower for the pony cars
are relatively flat over a wide RPM range. With the Subaru you would
not start to maximize your engine performance until about 5K (I'm
guessing). Unless the person in the pony car revs it up to about 3K,
dumps the clutch, gets lost in the billowing smoke as the rear tires
liquefy and runs into the wall sideways, I can not see the Subaru
winning.

> far down. I need to drop a 302 in my explorer, maybe this summer....

We just bought a used 96 XLT with the 302 and I love it, well at least
when my wife lets me have the keys...

Just a viewpoint from the gallery.

Rob

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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 22:05:38 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: ADMIN: Seeking assistance

I need help from some list members in order to save myself
(and others) an enormous amount of time. The problem is
Microsoft email packages. They insist on sending W*NMAIL.DAT
and M*ME attachments (can't spell them because the server
will bounce them).

I know from experience that many have had this problem and
solved it. If you're using a Microsoft package and can
successfully post to the lists, please let me know what
your settings are. This will allow all list members to
participate in the discussions. I will post these settings
in the new "Instruction Guide" I'm putting together for
list usage.

Email me at: kpayne mindspring.com

Thanks,
Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
http://www.ford-trucks.com

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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 23:02:18 EST
From: Tom Test
Subject: Re: Bronco II tranny problems?

In a message dated 98-03-18 14:51:48 EST, you write:

> The 5-speed in my '87 2wd Ranger loses about a pint of oil in 6000 miles.
> I've never been able to determine exactly where it's comming from.
> Also is it harmful to replace the gear oil without adding the Ford
> "friction modifier"? where can I get the additive (Ford dealer only?)

Make sure your 5-speed is a Mitsu or you are going to have some
grief using gear oil. The Mazda 5-speed gets lubed with Mercon ATF.
Most references I've seen say the 5-speed on 2wd is Mazda, but that
may apply only to certain years. The Mitsubishi transmission will have
a label with a Mitsu part number (e.g. FM-146) on one side of the
transmission or the other.

Does anyone on this list know of a web site that has a listing of
translations for the transmission, axle and spring codes on the
vehicle certification label (driver's door or door post) for these
trucks? Owner manual translates the axle ratio, but not which
axle (8.8 or 7.5).

Tom Test
92 Ranger

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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 19:54:02 -0600
From: Jordan
Subject: Re: I wonder?

>I have a Ford Lightning 351W with Gt40 heads and intake. I am in
>Maryland...I have an aunt that lives in Texas. I had a ranger Splash
>that was why I was on this list if you were wondering and I was going to
>do a 5.0 swap too but I found the lightning and traded it in!
>Chris
If I had the money, and the need for a big truck that's the way I would go.
Looks cool too doesn't it. I am thinking of putting Cobra R rims and 255
55 r17 tires on my 2 door explorer sport.
Jordan

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Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 00:09:50 -0600
From: Jordan
Subject: RE: I wonder?

>missing the other part of the speed equation, horsepower. Yes I agree
not sure on the figures....
>that an all-wheel drive car will launch quicker, but eventually the 150+
>horsepower advantage will take over. The horsepower for the pony cars
i serieously doubt that the advantage is that high.
>are relatively flat over a wide RPM range. With the Subaru you would
>not start to maximize your engine performance until about 5K (I'm
I would say (depending on redline) it would be 4500, but if you wait to
shift, you will always be in that range :-) (ever hear an explorer with a
borla being kept in the 4000-5500 range, pretty neat)
>guessing). Unless the person in the pony car revs it up to about 3K,
>dumps the clutch, gets lost in the billowing smoke as the rear tires
>liquefy and runs into the wall sideways, I can not see the Subaru
>winning.
suppose that depends on the length of the race... 1/4 mile, this would not
be true.
>> far down. I need to drop a 302 in my explorer, maybe this summer....
>We just bought a used 96 XLT with the 302 and I love it, well at least
>when my wife lets me have the keys...
mine is a 4.0 but if I go to the trouble to swap you bet anything that it
will not be just a 302, it will definately be a "built" one with much more
power than the stock type...
Jordan

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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:24:08 -0800
From: Richard Salitra
Subject: 4.0L Ranger performance upgrade

Thought I'd share the "fruits" if my continued research into improving
the performance and efficiency of the 4.0L engine on my '98 Ranger SC
4x4. If anybody has any comments or suggestions, I'd love to hear from
you.

headers/exhaust system:
1. Doug Thorley - as mentioned before, they don't currently make
headers for the 4.0L engine, nor do they have any such plans in the near
future.
2. Borla - got their catalog. although they make a catback system
for the '98 Ranger SC, they don't currently make headers for the 4.0L
past 1994. When I called, the salesman tried to convince me that
upgrading the rest of the exhaust system without also upgrading the
headers was still worthwhile. I didn't bite. He couldn't give me any
timetable as to when Borla was going to develop headers for the 4.0L
engine. He said it was not on their immediate R&D list.
3. JBA - Their headers are also up to only 1994 engines. The person
at JBA explained that after '94 Ford changed something in the emissions
which required designing new headers. He said they expect to come out
with the new headers by mid-summer. They also make a catback system.
4. Vanir Technologies - they're supposed to specialize in ford
engines, at least that's what their website says. I've called 2x and
left messages both times. No one has bothered to return my calls.
Guess they don't want my business.
5. BBK - I haven't been able to locate them on the web and I don't
know where they're at to call information for their phone #. anyone
have that info? I'd appreciate it.
6. Edelbrock - their tech line was always busy and their operator
wouldn't even transfer me to someone in sales to answer my questions.
I'll give someone else my business.

intake:
1. K&N - although they don't make the entire kit for the 4.0L Ranger,
someone has written in this discussion group that they were able to get
an Explorer kit into their Ranger without any modification. I've been
meaning to call them for their catalog, but haven't been able to yet.
if anybody else has some experience with this, I'd really like to hear
your input. also, is it worthwhile to get their air filter without the
entire kit?
2. does anybody know of any other companies that make comparable
products? is K&N the only game in town?

computer chip:
1. Superchip - I've looked into this, but am hesitant to make any
modification that will force me to run on premium. right now I'm using
89 octane (middle grade). Again, if anybody has any experience with
their product I'd love to hear about about it.

ignition:
1. Jacobs - in another chat group, someone mentioned that they
installed a Jacobs Ultrateam ignition in their pickup (not a Ford) and
it proved to be a great addition. I've tried to look them up on the web
but to no avail. does anybody know their phone # or website address?
does anybody know if they make a product for the 4.0L engine? are there
any other companies out there who make similar products?

other:
in the improvements that I'm looking into, I'm purposely staying in the
realm of bolt-on additions. I don't want to redo the guts of the
engine. with that in mind, if anybody has suggestions for engine
improvements or info on who to contact, I'd love to hear your input.
Hope my recent research also proves of value to others.

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Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 02:05:11 -0500
From: Scott Parent
Subject: Re: 4.0L Ranger performance upgrade

Richard Salitra wrote:

> Thought I'd share the "fruits" if my continued research into improving
>
> the performance and efficiency of the 4.0L engine on my '98 Ranger SC
> 4x4. If anybody has any comments or suggestions, I'd love to hear
> from
> you.
>
> headers/exhaust system:
> 1. Doug Thorley - as mentioned before, they don't currently make
> headers for the 4.0L engine, nor do they have any such plans in the
> near
> future.
> 2. Borla - got their catalog. although they make a catback system
> for the '98 Ranger SC, they don't currently make headers for the 4.0L
> past 1994. When I called, the salesman tried to convince me that
> upgrading the rest of the exhaust system without also upgrading the
> headers was still worthwhile. I didn't bite. He couldn't give me any
>
> timetable as to when Borla was going to develop headers for the 4.0L
> engine. He said it was not on their immediate R&D list.
> 3. JBA - Their headers are also up to only 1994 engines. The
> person
> at JBA explained that after '94 Ford changed something in the
> emissions
> which required designing new headers. He said they expect to come out
>
> with the new headers by mid-summer. They also make a catback system.
> 4. Vanir Technologies - they're supposed to specialize in ford
> engines, at least that's what their website says. I've called 2x and
> left messages both times. No one has bothered to return my calls.
> Guess they don't want my business.
> 5. BBK - I haven't been able to locate them on the web and I don't
> know where they're at to call information for their phone #. anyone
> have that info? I'd appreciate it.
> 6. Edelbrock - their tech line was always busy and their operator
> wouldn't even transfer me to someone in sales to answer my questions.
> I'll give someone else my business.
>
> intake:
> 1. K&N - although they don't make the entire kit for the 4.0L
> Ranger,
> someone has written in this discussion group that they were able to
> get
> an Explorer kit into their Ranger without any modification. I've been
>
> meaning to call them for their catalog, but haven't been able to yet.
> if anybody else has some experience with this, I'd really like to hear
>
> your input. also, is it worthwhile to get their air filter without
> the
> entire kit?
> 2. does anybody know of any other companies that make comparable
> products? is K&N the only game in town?
>
> computer chip:
> 1. Superchip - I've looked into this, but am hesitant to make any
> modification that will force me to run on premium. right now I'm
> using
> 89 octane (middle grade). Again, if anybody has any experience with
> their product I'd love to hear about about it.
>
> ignition:
> 1. Jacobs - in another chat group, someone mentioned that they
> installed a Jacobs Ultrateam ignition in their pickup (not a Ford) and
>
> it proved to be a great addition. I've tried to look them up on the
> web
> but to no avail. does anybody know their phone # or website address?
> does anybody know if they make a product for the 4.0L engine? are
> there
> any other companies out there who make similar products?
>
> other:
> in the improvements that I'm looking into, I'm purposely staying in
> the
> realm of bolt-on additions. I don't want to redo the guts of the....


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