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fordtrucks-small-digest Wednesday, March 18 1998 Volume 02 : Number 082



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In this issue:

Re: Ranger 9x tachometer question [mark fitzgerald
Re: suggestions [mark fitzgerald ]
Re: Ranger 9x tachometer question [William Street ]
Bronco II tranny problems? [Michael Rule ]
Re: Bronco II tranny problems? [james oxley ]
T-5 help [Docmi5 ]
Re: Bronco II tranny problems? [mark fitzgerald ]
Re: I wonder? [Garr & Pam ]
Re: I wonder? [Garr & Pam ]
Re: I wonder? [Jordan ]
Re: I wonder? [Jordan ]
(fwd) Bed rail q's [thomas.panfili snet.net (Tom)]
Re: T-5 help [mark fitzgerald ]
Re: T-5 help [Docmi5 ]

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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 04:21:28 -0800 (PST)
From: mark fitzgerald
Subject: Re: Ranger 9x tachometer question

It's really simple. Just go to any Pep Boys, or Auto Palace, or VIP,
or Cap....or any other other generic auto store near you and choose
from their selection. I would recommend auto-meter (not auto gage) and
then just use their directions for the install. Their should be only
about three wires, a positive, a negative, and a wire going to your
distibutor. Installation is a cinch.

Best regards,
Fitzy

- ---Jonathan Sherman wrote:
>
> I just got a 96 Ranger (2.3L) and would like to add a tachometer to
it. I
> figure I'll just mount a mini-tach to the steering column. What do
I need to
> do to access the proper hookups? Also, is this information available
> anywhere, like the service manual? Thanks...
>
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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 04:40:44 -0800 (PST)
From: mark fitzgerald
Subject: Re: suggestions

Geez...so many issues here. Ok i'm going to assume your truck is four
wheel drive since you were talking about crawling issues. First off.
If you plan on going 302 be prepared to spend lots of money. You're
first looking at an engine. Secondly you're looking at extensive
heater box modification, a remote oil filter, and possible frame
alterations if you want to run headers. If you want to keep it a
manual and still have a low first gear, then you need to go with the
New Venture 4500 transmission. It's a 5 speed with a really really low
first gear. so you have your transmission and engine. I'll be honest
with you. You're going to need axles. You have a Dana 28 IFS and a 7.5
inch in there now. No good. These will not hold up to a 302. I promise
you. I converted over to a Dana 44 front end. ($$$$$$) I had enough of
this IFS crappola. Too weak. The rear i used a Ford 9 inch axle. It's
your choice. Doing this swap in a 4 wheel drive is long, and labot
intensive, but i love it now that it's done. Oh yes....transfer case.
I'm running a Dana 20. And yes, there are two manufacturers that i
know of that make "crawler devices" for this transfer case. Good luck.

Best regards,
Fitzy

- ---"Michael G. Peacock" wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> I have a '86 BroncoII. It's a 2.9Lefi with a 5-speed manual trans
> and stock 3.45 axles. I like the 2.9L but I would really like to put a
> 302 in it. I also like the manual 5-speed for the highway milage but I
> would like to put a beefier 5-speed in. Also, I really want the
4-to-1
> or something comparable for offroad crawling. There's also the
diffs, I
> am going to put the new Powertrax no-slip in when production starts
for
> the broncoII. But this is also a concern, why spend the money on diffs
> for the 7.5 and Dana28. I've talked to advance adapters and they
tell me
> that I "can do anything I want as long as I have the money, but it
starts
> with a 302, then a different trans(they say any ford trans I want),
then
> an atlas t-case," etc, etc. Honestly I can only afford one project
at a
> time and this is a daily driver. Does anyone have any suggestions on
> something I can do without benching the truck for the summer? The
motor
> has 125K on it and does not burn any oil, the trans is getting hard to
> shift into 2nd when cold and the input bearing is talking to me, I
fear
> it will need rebuilding soon. The trans shop around here said it would
> cost between $500 and $1500 to fix. Any suggestions? The 3.45's along
> with the 5-speed are great for milage but as I now have 30's on, the
low
> end is suffering(not even thinking about the 33's it will eventually
> have).
> Any and all(short of get a new truck)suggestions or thoughts are
> appreciated.
> Thanks -- mike edi1.com
>
> BTW, We BII and ranger owners really aught to start bugging
manufacturers
> like Advance Adapters or 4-to-1 to produce crawler devices for us.
Or put
> our heads together and produce one ourselves! Whatdaya think?
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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 18:19:56 -0800
From: William Street
Subject: Re: Ranger 9x tachometer question

It's probably similar to my 90 2.3L. There should be a tach connector on the drivers side
of the engine. It's located between the alternator and the TFI module bolted to the intake
runners - it's a short pigtail with a single wire and a plugged connector. There is another
pigtail with a couple of wires and a shorting plug but that's not it.



Jonathan Sherman wrote:

> I just got a 96 Ranger (2.3L) and would like to add a tachometer to it. I
> figure I'll just mount a mini-tach to the steering column. What do I need to
> do to access the proper hookups? Also, is this information available
> anywhere, like the service manual? Thanks...
>
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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:36:29 +0700
From: Michael Rule
Subject: Bronco II tranny problems?

Hi all!
I'm interested in getting an '86-'90 Bronco II (any year with 2.9, EFI and
hyd. lifters) for city, highway, and occasional mild off-road use. But I've
heard some horror stories about transmission problems. I'd welcome any info
you might have about either the automatic or the 5-speed--problems, repair
costs, longevity, etc.

TIA--
Michael Rule
Tucson, AZ

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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:56:47 -0800
From: james oxley
Subject: Re: Bronco II tranny problems?

Michael Rule wrote:
>
> Hi all!
> I'm interested in getting an '86-'90 Bronco II (any year with 2.9, EFI and
> hyd. lifters) for city, highway, and occasional mild off-road use. But I've
> heard some horror stories about transmission problems. I'd welcome any info
> you might have about either the automatic or the 5-speed--problems, repair
> costs, longevity, etc.

I loved the auto in my 88 BII. I did swamp the motor and the tranny
the third time I went wheelin. This was at 11000 mi. The motor and
tranny were done and a body lift and 31's were installed. Around 60K, the
4th gear band was slipping and needed replacement (under warantee). I'm
not sure if it was due to the 31's and/or the previous rebuild or not. I
didn't address the gear issue until around 80K (4.56's), so that may have
been part of it also. Even with the problem of the 4th gear, I still
think it was a great tranny. Torque converter and 4th gear shifting was
top notch, better than most. None of the "take a week to get into 4th
gear" like the AOD's. My freind's 87 Ranger has the 5 spd, 32's, 4.56
gears, and F/R posi's. He has never had a problem with the 5 spd
(132,000 miles), but mever wheeled as hard or often as me.

OX

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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:32:55 EST
From: Docmi5
Subject: T-5 help

We are in the middle of a 5.0 swap to a 86 Ranger. My son would like to use a
T-5 tranny. Would anyone know what years and what models of cars they came in
so we could scout the yards? Also is it possable to bolt up the T-5 to the
engine and get a custom drive shaft made as to not have to buy a $800.00
adapter?
Thanks for any feedback you can give.
Doc

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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:52:12 -0800 (PST)
From: mark fitzgerald
Subject: Re: Bronco II tranny problems?

Just for FYI, the 2.9 liter engine has a "habit" of cracking heads.
Trannie wise, the 4 speed is a mazda transmission and the 5 speed is
a mitsubishi trannie. make your own conclusions on that one.:)

best regards,
Fitzy

- ---Michael Rule wrote:
>
> Hi all!
> I'm interested in getting an '86-'90 Bronco II (any year with 2.9,
EFI and
> hyd. lifters) for city, highway, and occasional mild off-road use.
But I've
> heard some horror stories about transmission problems. I'd welcome
any info
> you might have about either the automatic or the 5-speed--problems,
repair
> costs, longevity, etc.
>
> TIA--
> Michael Rule
> Tucson, AZ
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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 17:29:21 +0000
From: Garr & Pam
Subject: Re: I wonder?

Jordan wrote:
>
> >Thats just the point..how long will that subaru hold up if you keep
> >leaping off line with revs all the way up and all 4 wheels biting
> >asphalt...I don't think it will hold up to that kind of torture but if
> >you go easy on it you will get beat because it has no power down low.
> >To go fast you have to drive hard(REAL HARD)
> >Try doing a rolling start race...or changing the subaru to 2 wheel drive
> >on better yet add all wheel drive to the Z rev it up drop the clutch get
> >to the finish line turn around and watch for the subaru to cross!
> >Chris
> I don't mean to be cruel but.... First of all the Subaru is faster, both
> cars must be driven hard to win the race so that factor doesn't matter.
> Second both firebirds and camaro's (and mustangs) have terrible repair
> histories, the subaru's look good so far. And face it I could say what if
> my explorer had all wheel drive and was twin supercharged then it could
> beat anything as it is I'll just have to stick with beating up on base
> mustangs (I have a standard) heh heh.
> Jordan
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Hard...Lets see how many rpms must the subaru turn to make its power?
Alot more than the Chevy. Subaru's reliability is with family cars this
is a completely different ball game. Sports cars are going to have more
maintance than family cars given the way they are driven...For subarus
to post that time the are probably dropping the clutch at 4 to K rpms
with hardly any wheel spin since its all wheel drive fast YES reliable I
doubt it. Now a Z28 wheel not be under such stress since you don't need
any where near the rpms to leave the line. If you started from say 20
mph with both cars where wheelspin is not a problem then my money is on
the Z! As for making you Explorer all wheel drive go ahead and do that
come down to where I live and I will race you with my truck!
Chris

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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 17:38:30 +0000
From: Garr & Pam
Subject: Re: I wonder?

Garr & Pam wrote:
>
> Jordan wrote:
> >
> > >Thats just the point..how long will that subaru hold up if you keep
> > >leaping off line with revs all the way up and all 4 wheels biting
> > >asphalt...I don't think it will hold up to that kind of torture but if
> > >you go easy on it you will get beat because it has no power down low.
> > >To go fast you have to drive hard(REAL HARD)
> > >Try doing a rolling start race...or changing the subaru to 2 wheel drive
> > >on better yet add all wheel drive to the Z rev it up drop the clutch get
> > >to the finish line turn around and watch for the subaru to cross!
> > >Chris
> > I don't mean to be cruel but.... First of all the Subaru is faster, both
> > cars must be driven hard to win the race so that factor doesn't matter.
> > Second both firebirds and camaro's (and mustangs) have terrible repair
> > histories, the subaru's look good so far. And face it I could say what if
> > my explorer had all wheel drive and was twin supercharged then it could
> > beat anything as it is I'll just have to stick with beating up on base
> > mustangs (I have a standard) heh heh.
> > Jordan
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> Hard...Lets see how many rpms must the subaru turn to make its power?
> Alot more than the Chevy. Subaru's reliability is with family cars this
> is a completely different ball game. Sports cars are going to have more
> maintance than family cars given the way they are driven...For subarus
> to post that time the are probably dropping the clutch at 4 to K rpms
> with hardly any wheel spin since its all wheel drive fast YES reliable I
> doubt it. Now a Z28 wheel not be under such stress since you don't need
> any where near the rpms to leave the line. If you started from say 20
> mph with both cars where wheelspin is not a problem then my money is on
> the Z! As for making you Explorer all wheel drive go ahead and do that
> come down to where I live and I will race you with my truck!
> Chris
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Hope that did not sound like a flame...just stating how I feel. Opinions
are like a**holes everyone has one!
Chris

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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 18:58:05 -0600
From: Jordan
Subject: Re: I wonder?

>Hard...Lets see how many rpms must the subaru turn to make its power?
>Alot more than the Chevy. Subaru's reliability is with family cars this
yeah, but being a sports car its built for that.
>is a completely different ball game. Sports cars are going to have more
>maintance than family cars given the way they are driven...For subarus
I agree so neither of them will likely be great as far as reliability is
concerned.
>to post that time the are probably dropping the clutch at 4 to K rpms
>with hardly any wheel spin since its all wheel drive fast YES reliable I
>doubt it.
I guess we'll have to wait and see...
>Now a Z28 wheel not be under such stress since you don't need
>any where near the rpms to leave the line. If you started from say 20
right, it will just leave slower, unless you put huge tires on it like a
person I know (18" slicks (that's width) in the rear, tubbed on the inside,
really fast) then you would be pulling the same rpm's (or close) and would
beat the subaru.
>the Z! As for making you Explorer all wheel drive go ahead and do that
>come down to where I live and I will race you with my truck!
>Chris
What do you have in the truck???? and yeah right, like I want to do a
conversion ha ha.
Jordan

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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 18:59:53 -0600
From: Jordan
Subject: Re: I wonder?

>
>Hope that did not sound like a flame...just stating how I feel. Opinions
>are like a**holes everyone has one!
>Chris
no prob, just constructive agumentation. I don't take offense easily.
P.S. Where do you live, I'm in Texas and you said come down.... I am pretty
far down. I need to drop a 302 in my explorer, maybe this summer....
Jordan

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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 02:02:11 GMT
From: thomas.panfili snet.net (Tom)
Subject: (fwd) Bed rail q's

On Mon, 16 Mar 1998 21:52:23 -0500, Luke Wells
wrote:

>My splash came used with bed rails but I want a bed cover and need to
>take them off does anybody
>have experience with this? I have a 96 splash regular cab thank you
>
I have a 94 with side rails and my EXTANG cover fits great!!!!

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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 20:48:25 -0800 (PST)
From: mark fitzgerald
Subject: Re: T-5 help

sorry..i guess i'm just a bit confused. i'm guessing this ranger is
two wheel drive? Why use a T-5? and yes..the trannie should bolt
right up to the engine but i'm not really sure what 800$ adapter
you're trying to not use. Custom driveshafts can be made. If you can't
find a place near you, mail me and i'll give you the number of a very
reputable place near me.

best regards,
Fitzy

- ---Docmi5 wrote:
>
> We are in the middle of a 5.0 swap to a 86 Ranger. My son would like
to use a
> T-5 tranny. Would anyone know what years and what models of cars
they came in
> so we could scout the yards? Also is it possable to bolt up the T-5
to the
> engine and get a custom drive shaft made as to not have to buy a
$800.00
> adapter?
> Thanks for any feedback you can give.
> Doc
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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 00:15:39 EST
From: Docmi5
Subject: Re: T-5 help

Sorry
My son wants to go with the T-5 Tranny because he was told he would be able to
use shorty headers. If he used a c4 or c6 he would have to use y headers. We....


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