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fordtrucks-small-digest Tuesday, January 27 1998 Volume 02 : Number 028



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In this issue:

Re: 98 Rangers...what ya think? [silent.bob juno.com (Silent . Bob)]
Re: O2 sensor on '87 2.0? [silent.bob juno.com (Silent . Bob)]
Re: 4 Door Ranger/Mazda [silent.bob juno.com (Silent . Bob)]
RAM Air for 3.0L V6 Ranger [RandalDGazdecki eaton.com]
Re: 98 Ranger gas mileage [Phil Thompson ]
Re: 98 Ranger gas mileage ["Bob Leifer" ]
Re: 98 Ranger gas mileage [FastRngXLT aol.com]
Re: RAM Air for 3.0L V6 Ranger [FastRngXLT aol.com]
Re: 94 Pinging Ranger [Ken Payne ]
302 Ranger [Cullo aol.com]
Add-a-leaf ["Mike *" ]
(no subject) [Bob Fiddes ]
ADMIN: MAJOR MILESTONE!! [Ken Payne ]
Re: Who cares about Toyota [Diana Slyter ]

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 09:10:52 EST
From: silent.bob juno.com (Silent . Bob)
Subject: Re: 98 Rangers...what ya think?

On Wed, 21 Jan 1998 19:52:11, -0500 KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J
TENNEY) writes:
>Hey all,
>
>I was just wondering what you all think of the '98 Rangers looks and
>new suspension. I have one and personally love the new look, but I
>painted the grille to match the truck and that GREATLY improved the
>looks. The suspension seems stiffer than my '95, so I think it was
>an overall great change.
>
>Josh
>'98 Ranger XLT 4x2 regular cab shortbox
>4.0L 5 speed manual and 3.55s.....yeeeeehaw!

It took me a while to get over the new look of the Ranger,
but I like the new look of the truck. I test drove one, and
they ride like a champ.



silent.bob juno.com
95 Ranger 2.3L, SVO OHC
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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 09:10:52 EST
From: silent.bob juno.com (Silent . Bob)
Subject: Re: O2 sensor on '87 2.0?

On Sun, 25 Jan 1998 10:08:18 -0500 Nathan Heid writes:
> I have a 1987 Ranger with the 2.0L carburated engine. I'm
>trying to find
>out why the fuel milage is dropping. I used to get 25-27 mpg on the
>highway. Lately it's been 18-22.
> Does this engine have an oxygen sensor? If it does, where is
>it? I don't
>see anything in the normal location on the manifold.
> I have an old service manual which breifly mentions an "EGO"
>sensor, but
>give no really usefull information. Any ideas?

Look behind and/or in front of the cat convertor. You should be able to
trace a wire to a sensor going into your pipe.



silent.bob juno.com
95 Ranger 2.3L, SVO OHC
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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 09:10:53 EST
From: silent.bob juno.com (Silent . Bob)
Subject: Re: 4 Door Ranger/Mazda

I went to the auto show here in Houston Sunday afternoon and got a look
at a Mazda (Or Ranger if you will) 4x4 4.0L 4 Door truck. This 4 door
looks just like the Dodge Quad cab. Someone said that the Crew Cab will
only be for South America. (Arrrggh!!) Sorry, no bench seats in the
back. Instead, you have 2 seats that fold against the back of the cab
wall, then fold down and rotate 90 degrees to face each other. So you
still sit perpendicular relative to the way the truck is facing in the
back seats.

Of the list topic, I also got a look at the F250 with the Quad Cab
design. (I dont know what Ford is calling this design yet.)




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Date: 26 Jan 98 09:13:13 EST
From: RandalDGazdecki eaton.com
Subject: RAM Air for 3.0L V6 Ranger

Brian,
You mentioned a custom RAM Air system for your 96 3.0L Ranger. I am devising
one myself and I am curious what you did. I have a 91 3.0L V6. Where did you
pull the Ram Air from? The easiest location I see is the front airdam on the bottom
of the Bumper. What did you do?
Randy
randaldgazdecki eaton.com
"Heart of the N.S.S.N!!"

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 09:22:49 -0600
From: Phil Thompson
Subject: Re: 98 Ranger gas mileage

>> Gas mileage with the 3.0/automatic has been awful, 12-19 mpg.

Ditto that. I've also got the 3.0/automatic (4x4), and at about 1200
miles, I'm only averaging about 13 mpg city, and 16 mpg highway. Gas
mileage here in MN is of course worse in the winter (although this has
been a mild winter so far), but I was still hoping for better than
13/16 (my 88 Bronco 2 4x4 always got better than that). With only a
17-gallon gas tank, this means that I'm visiting the gas station a lot
more than I'm used to, and a lot more than I want to.

Luckily, I'm just leasing the truck, so I'll be able to evaluate it at
the end of the 2 years and see if it's worth keeping.

Phil Thompson

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 11:07:26 -0500
From: "Bob Leifer"
Subject: Re: 98 Ranger gas mileage

This is an old issue, but we went through this discussion with the '97
Ranger too. My '97 3.0 litre 4 speed auto, 4x2 XLT regular cab, with short
bed gets anywhere from a very low 13.6 in the streets to best 14.6 in the
streets, and about 20.5 on the road. When I first complained about it, I was
told it would improve at over 1000 miles on the odometer. It has not; at
3000 miles, it still does the same. Just have to put in my mind that this is
a truck ( a little one), not a car, and What it gets, it gets. I am
otherwise very happy with my truck and the fiberglass tonneau cover on the
box.

Bob
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From: Phil Thompson
To: 'fordtrucks-small listservice.net'
Date: Monday, January 26, 1998 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: 98 Ranger gas mileage


>>> Gas mileage with the 3.0/automatic has been awful, 12-19 mpg.
>
>Ditto that. I've also got the 3.0/automatic (4x4), and at about 1200
>miles, I'm only averaging about 13 mpg city, and 16 mpg highway. Gas
>mileage here in MN is of course worse in the winter (although this has
>been a mild winter so far), but I was still hoping for better than
>13/16 (my 88 Bronco 2 4x4 always got better than that). With only a
>17-gallon gas tank, this means that I'm visiting the gas station a lot
>more than I'm used to, and a lot more than I want to.
>
>Luckily, I'm just leasing the truck, so I'll be able to evaluate it at
>the end of the 2 years and see if it's worth keeping.
>
>Phil Thompson
>
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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 12:34:45 EST
From: FastRngXLT aol.com
Subject: Re: 98 Ranger gas mileage

In a message dated 1/26/98 11:14:13 AM Eastern
Standard Time, rleifer sprynet.com writes:


this discussion with the '97
Ranger too. My '97 3.0 litre 4 speed auto, 4x2 XLT regular cab, with short
bed gets anywhere from a very low 13.6 in the streets to best 14.6 in the
streets, and about 20.5 on the road. When I first complained about it, I was
told it would improve at over 1000 miles on the odometer. It has not; at
3000 miles, it still does the same. Just have to put in my mind that this is
a truck ( a little one), not a car, and What it gets, it gets. I am
otherwise very happy with my truck and the fiberglass tonneau cover on the
box.

Bob >>

I have a 96' 3.0L with 63,000 miles and it gets terrible gas mileage too.
It didnt change since it was new and the 4.0L gets better mileage. It
improved a little when I added my K&N and the Flowmaster exuast.

Brian


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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 12:47:30 EST
From: FastRngXLT aol.com
Subject: Re: RAM Air for 3.0L V6 Ranger

In a message dated 1/26/98 11:43:33 AM Eastern
Standard Time, RandalDGazdecki eaton.com writes:


You mentioned a custom RAM Air system for your 96 3.0L Ranger. I am devising
one myself and I am curious what you did. I have a 91 3.0L V6. Where did
you
pull the Ram Air from? The easiest location I see is the front airdam on the
bottom
of the Bumper. What did you do?
Randy >>

I used the lower airdam slot in the bumper. You airfilter setup is different
on your truck than mine so I will tell you basically what I did so you can get
an idea. On 96' setups the filter housing is round, I removed the filter
housing and then pulled the airhorne out that lies between the fender well and
attaches to the airfilter.I cut the old air horne to make a airscoop and put
it into the air damn, I used the stock bumper mounting screws to fasten the
scoop to it. I then bought some vinal dryer duct tubing (dont use aluminum,
cant paint it and it tears easy!) and connected one end to the scoop and the
other to the filter housing using metal C clamps you use for dryers. I
painted the air duct black to match my truck. You can see it from the outside
nor the inside of the engine compartment. You setup will differ depending on
the way you filter housing is run. If I knew what it looked like I could
probley make one for it too.

Here is a picture of my 96' Ranger, since that picture I have added a
superchip.
trucks.com/pictorial/big/1996_ranger.html">1996_ranger.html at www.ford-
trucks.com
Brian

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 13:02:30 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: 94 Pinging Ranger

Please redirect your post to fordtrucks-small ListService.net
instead of owner-fordtrucks-small ListService.net

Thank You

Peggy
Admin FTE

At 09:53 AM 1/23/98 PST, you wrote:
>The EEC controls the timing on your truck along with other things. It
>retains info from the way you have driven in the past. You may need to
>reset it. To do this, disconnect your battery for a day or so and then
>drive the truck hard for the first few times after that. That should do
>it. There is no reason that your truck should be pinging, even if you
>are lugging the hell out of it.
>
>---------------------------------------------
>pyro152 hotmail.com
>'94 Ranger Supercab 4x2 4.0 5 speed
>Custom 4" lift (bent beams and arms)
>The Ford Ranger Pages
>http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Downs/7894
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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 12:32:43 EST
From: Cullo aol.com
Subject: 302 Ranger

My 1987 Ranger now has a 93,302 HO EFI sitting in the engine compartment
backed with an AOD. My truck originally had a carburerated 2.0 four cylinder
and was a stripper. I added a power brake booster and a new master cylinder,
power steering and A/C. I am now in the process of hooking everything up while
leaving the harness integration for last. I used engine mounts which required
no drilling, they worked well. My drivers side header touched the power
steering joint near the steering box and had to be dimpled about an eight of
an inch to clear. On the passenger side the header clears the frame with
about an eight of an inch. The AOD bolts right into the stock transmission
mount. I used the yoke from a T5 transmission with my stock ranger drive
shaft. I am waiting for a four core radiator to arrive, then I can figure out
where to put the A/C condenser and transmission cooler. Oh yeah if you are
doing this installation and keeping emissions equipment. The metal tube
connecting the cylinder heads to the air pump from a 91 ford f150, 302 will
fit perfectly in the ranger firewall, but the bolt in the head on the drivers
side contacts the firewall which needs to be dimpled about an eight of an
inch. My next big project is the fuel system. I bought a plastic fuel tank
from a 91 Ranger with an in tank pump. But it looks like frame differences
between the years means I will have to do some cutting and welding to get it
to fit. After all the waiting it is great to see the V8 sitting where a four
had been. Dart

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 15:39:46 PST
From: "Mike *"
Subject: Add-a-leaf

The longer add a leaf will give you a better ride I would recommend
that. I have a lang Rancho add a leaf and it works really well.

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pyro152 hotmail.com
'94 Ranger Supercab 4x2 4.0 5 speed
Custom 4" lift (bent beams and arms)
The Ford Ranger Pages
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Downs/7894
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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 19:00:37 -0700
From: Bob Fiddes
Subject: (no subject)

David:

The largest tire size will depend on the size of the rim you are using.
If you are using 14 inch rims, the largest I could find was a 27 X 8.5 X
14 LT. If you are going to use 15 inch rims, the largest without
rubbing when you turn is 215 X 75 R15.

When installing a body lift, like a 2 inch lift, no adjustments to
anything are required. You must drop the radiator down with brackets
usually supplied with the kit and you also have to extend the steering
linkage but that is accomplished by loosening the bolts and extending
it. Anything over a 2 inch body lift requires extra stuff. Even with a
2 inch lift, you will have a gap in the rear between the bottom of the
bed and the bumper, but that can be covered with a sheared piece of
sheet metal that is painted to match the color of your truck and riveted
into place. With a 2 inch body lift you can go to 235 X 75 R15 tires.
14 inch look out of place on a lifted truck.

After a suspension lift, your front end does require alignment.
Depending on how radical the lift is, you might need to change some
alignment bushings. If you have the front end aligned, the suspension
lift will have no effect on your tire wear. If the lift is done
properly, you should have any extra wear on any of the front end parts.
I do recommend putting a steering stabalizer on the truck regardless of
what else you do. This will help to minimize the wear on the tie rod
ends and drag link.

I have an 86 with a 2 inch body lift and later added a 4 inch SkyJacker
Soft Ride lift package. I run 30 X 9.50 X 15R LT tires on it and have
plenty of clearance like about 5 inches. Tires don't rub when turning
or when suspension is taxed to it's limits. I am really pleased with
the Soft Ride package and I did all the work myself on a weekend with
hand tools. Was a bit of a b___h to get some of the riveted parts out
and remove the pitman arm but it came out well and have since put about
60,000 miles on it and still tight and handles great. This truck now
has 175,000 miles on it and other than u joints needing changing, runs
great.

I paid to have a Trail Master 4 inch suspension lift with Rancho RS-9000
shocks on my Explorer. This lift has not held up as well as the
SkyJacker package. I have had to have it reworked once and all the
smaller hardware removed and larger grade 8 bolts and nuts put it. It
seems to be holding together better now, but it still creaks when the
wheel is turned to the extremes when not moving. Doesn't happen on the
Ranger! The Soft Ride package rides better than the Trail Master. The
Soft Ride is firm; but not harsh like the Trail Master.

Hope this helps you.

>Bob
>
>David wrote:
>
>> What is the largest tire size that can be mounted on a Ranger without
any
>> modifications or complications? Are there any adjustments that must
be made
>> to (steering, brakes, fuel line, etc) when installing a body lift
kit? Is
>> it possible to retain proper alignment or steering after a suspension
lift?
>> Will a suspension lift cause tires to wear faster? Are there any
other
>> complications associated with either a suspension or body lift that
will
>> shorten the life of any parts on a truck?

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 21:17:09 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: ADMIN: MAJOR MILESTONE!!

Tonight at 8:55pm Ford Truck Enthusiasts hit a major milestone:
100,000 visitors!!! Thanks to everyone for making us a success!

Ken & Peggy Payne
Admins, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
http://www.ford-trucks.com

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 01:17:43 -0600 (CST)
From: Diana Slyter
Subject: Re: Who cares about Toyota

Sorry if I got on your case too hard. I chose a Ranger over the Toyota
Tacoma pickup for these reasons primarily:

1. I need to haul a lot of building materials that typically come in 8
foot lenghts. The Ranger offers a 7 foot bed. The Toyota's 6 foot bed
provides poor weight distribution when loaded with these long boards, etc.
The weight distribution problem is further aggravated by Toyotas placing
the rear axle ahead of the beds centerline.

2. The Toyota may have a more reliable drivetrain, but it is one of the
most rustprone vehicles ever built.

3. The Toyota is notorious for locking up its rear wheels during hard
braking. The Ranger solves this problem by making rear wheel ABS standard
equipment. Theoritically the Toyota is available with optional ABS;
Several dealers and the factory told me they do not plan to build amy with
ABS even if ordered by a customer. Toyota did recently make ABS available
with the rather pricey TRD package though.



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On Sun, 25 Jan 1998, Jordan wrote:

> >Please do your research before you turn the flame up. The little Toyota
> I wan't flaming, I was simply stating another side of the issue.
> >pickup is assembles in California and thus does not bear the full 25%
> actually i think it is because some of them are imported that they cost
> more because the one's produced here are raised up to the imported cost to
> make it even and produce more profit's , I could be wrong though.
> >tariff. It is probably slightly more durable than the Ranger; but the
> >Ranger has a larger box and longer wheelbase for better weight
> >distribution available. The Ranger also comes with standard rear antilock
> >brakes and 4 wheel ABS optional.
> Are you sure about the ranger, my friend's toyota 4x4 is MUCH larger than a
> ranger like the back seats actually face forward (not in) and the bed is
> much larger (try fitting 8 large cases in a ranger, we could only get 3 of
> them into a ranger flareside, yet they all went in the toy. too bad the....


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