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fordtrucks-small-digest Saturday, January 3 1998 Volume 02 : Number 002



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In this issue:

Shoulder Belts won't return... [Lou Guerriero ]
Re: fordtrucks-small-digest V2 #1 [Steve Sternberg ]
Re: fordtrucks-small-digest V2 #1 [Bob Fiddes ]
Re:Removal of Crankshaft/Drivebelt pully on a 2.3l ["WK" ]
Re:Removal of Crankshaft/Drivebelt pully on a 2.3l ["WK" ]
Re: fordtrucks-small-digest V1 #5 [Thom Cheney ]
Ranger reliability ["Bryce T. Beyler" ]
Re: Ranger reliability [Thom Cheney ]
Re: Explorer? [Jordan ]
Re: 2.3l stuff [bmrickman juno.com (brian k rickman)]
Re: Ranger reliability [Jerad Heffner ]
Re: Ranger reliability ["M.Monninger" ]
RE: fordtrucks-small-digest V2 #1 [Barry Nestor
Re: Ranger reliability ["Bryce T. Beyler" ]
Headers for a 2.9 Ranger [Tom Colosimo ]
Re: fordtrucks-small-digest V2 #1 [bmrickman juno.com (brian k rickman)]

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Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 10:30:28 -0500
From: Lou Guerriero
Subject: Shoulder Belts won't return...

Hi all...

I have a problem with my sholder belt on the drivers side having
fully extended itself, and not returning to position. I took part of
the wall moulding off, and tried to get in there, but they sure made it
hard to get at on the Bronco II. I can feel my way in, the part still
seems to have spring, but just won't yank it back. Any suggestions?
It's pretty damned dangerous, especially this time of year in the Ottawa
area... we just got 30 cm of snow!

Thanks

Lou.

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Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 12:11:16 -0500
From: Steve Sternberg
Subject: Re: fordtrucks-small-digest V2 #1

Three quick questions, Then I'll stop using your bandwidth

1) I'm moving from Michigan to CA shortly. Can I purchase a new Ranger here
in Mich where I'm a resident and move it to CA whew the emission standards
are higher without lots of hassle?

2- Large Ford dealership has offered the following, 1998 Ranger, air, AT,
etc for $14100. Is this a good price

3- What happened to the power steering in the 1998 ranger?

4-Will be living on the N Coast of CA. Roads windy and narrow. No false
moves allowed. How does the Ranger perform under these circumstances. (I
also drive a 1990 Legend Coupe which holds the road beautifully.)

Any thoughts would be most appreciated.

Steve Sternberg
520 S. First St.
Ann Arbor, MI 48103
USA
email: sstern umich.edu
Phone: 313-665-9090

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Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 11:09:44 -0700
From: Bob Fiddes
Subject: Re: fordtrucks-small-digest V2 #1

Steve:

You can bring most any vehicle into California even though it doesn't meet the
California Emissions requirements. My experience was that you had to pay a one
time penalty of $300.00 for the non CA vehicle and you need to pass a smog
cert. before it can be registered. Then every two years it needs to be
reinspected. One other point to consider is that it used to be that CA
emission equipped vehicles had a 100,000 mile warranty on all the emissions
control equipment's and the other 49 states had a lesser mileage warranty.
Might be worth checking it out before you plunk down your money cause smog crap
is expensive when it goes bad and it will more than offset the cost
differential for CA emissions. As a matter of fact, the $300.00 penalty almost
offsets it. Also, don't move to CA for 6 months after you have bought the
vehicle or else they will try to tax you on it assuming you went out of state
to purchase it. The state bureaucrats are money hungry!!!

Bob

Steve Sternberg wrote:

> Three quick questions, Then I'll stop using your bandwidth
>
> 1) I'm moving from Michigan to CA shortly. Can I purchase a new Ranger here
> in Mich where I'm a resident and move it to CA whew the emission standards
> are higher without lots of hassle?
>
> 2- Large Ford dealership has offered the following, 1998 Ranger, air, AT,
> etc for $14100. Is this a good price
>
> 3- What happened to the power steering in the 1998 ranger?
>
> 4-Will be living on the N Coast of CA. Roads windy and narrow. No false
> moves allowed. How does the Ranger perform under these circumstances. (I
> also drive a 1990 Legend Coupe which holds the road beautifully.)
>
> Any thoughts would be most appreciated.
>
> Steve Sternberg
> 520 S. First St.
> Ann Arbor, MI 48103
> USA
> email: sstern umich.edu
> Phone: 313-665-9090
>
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Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 12:09:16 -0600
From: "WK"
Subject: Re:Removal of Crankshaft/Drivebelt pully on a 2.3l

> Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 19:36:14 EST
> From: SJew28
> Subject: Removal of Crankshaft/Drivebelt pully on a 2.3l
>
> How can I remove the crankshaft drivebelt pully without rotaiting the
> crankshaft? # 1 cylinder is at TDC, and I don't want that to change.
The
> pully is mounted to the shaft with one 22mm bolt. When I try to
remove it, it
> rotates the crank. It's a fuel injected 88 model. Is there a
special puller
> I can get?
Your biggest problem will probably be getting the center bolt loose, as
it torqued to about 125ft.lbs. A long breaker bar, with truck in gear
and emergency brake on will help loosen center bolt. I don't think
there is room for an air impact, even with the radiator removed. Also
not sure on yours, but the DIS style 2.3L has a stright taper crank,
and the pulley slides off after bolt removal. I think your concern on
engine rotation will only be after you have removed the timing belt.
Place some matching paint marks on all 3 belt pulleys and back cover,
to make sure nothing has moved during service work. My experience with
the 2.3L is on 90' and newer, so please excuse if this info does not
pertain to your application. Good Luck.

Warren Kurtz
Ford Ranger Fans On-Line
Kurtz Kustomz Motorsports
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.sky.net/~wkurtz

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Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 12:21:12 -0600
From: "WK"
Subject: Re:Removal of Crankshaft/Drivebelt pully on a 2.3l

> Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 20:25:28 -0600
> From: bmrickman juno.com (brian k rickman)
> Subject: Re: Removal of Crankshaft/Drivebelt pully on a 2.3l
> There is an aftermarket
> adjustable cam gear if you want to be able to play with the cam
timing,
Take note, that the adjustable sprockets will only work with belts of
square tooth design, 91' and older. The 92' and newer uses a round
toothed belt, and cam timing adjustment is possible by way off offset
keyways. Good info, just didn't want anyone to rush out and by an
adjustable pulley thinking it would work on all models.

Warren Kurtz
Ford Ranger Fans On-Line
Kurtz Kustomz Motorsports
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.sky.net/~wkurtz

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Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 07:39:31 -0800
From: Thom Cheney
Subject: Re: fordtrucks-small-digest V1 #5

Luke Wells wrote:
>
> I have heard the Ford Ranger is the best selling compact truck in the US year
> after year. I had a question, do the sales figures include state purchased
> vehicles(a lot of work trucks in my state NC are F-150s or Rangers) also city
> owned. And does this include business purchased Rangers( Pep Boys,and others use
> the Ranger for a business truck). There is also a private garbage pickup in my
> city that uses a half Ranger half garbage truck( it looks weird!).

unfortunately, they work very hard to make sure those numbers aren't
separated out for public viewing, although I'm sure someone must know!
The same is true with the Taurus, it is the prom queen of the rental
fleets & every other salesman drives one, it always seems to come out on
top of the numbers.

Fortunately my Ranger seems to be a decently built truck. I find it to
be as well put together as the last truck I owned, a 1991 Toyota. I'm
crossing my fingers (til they turn Ford blue) that the reliability is as
good!

Thom Cheney
'97 Ranger 4X4 S-cab STX

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Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 16:25:25 -0500
From: "Bryce T. Beyler"
Subject: Ranger reliability

Well...So far my '97 ranger has been in the shop 4 times...2 times for the
dealers lunkheads to not fix each problem and 2 times for them to get it
right...My first odometer calculated 1.5 miles for each mile really driven
(factory defect) and then my slave cylinder went bad on my clutch. Both
fixed in less than a 24 hour period, under warranty and I got a free rental
from my dealer. Out of my own pocket, I've relpaced my winshield (my
insurance deductible) and a factory fog light ($27 from Hella).

Bryce
'97 Rnger XLT 4x4 SuperCab

> From: Thom Cheney
> To: fordtrucks-small listservice.net
> Subject: Re: fordtrucks-small-digest V1 #5
> Date: Friday, January 02, 1998 10:39 AM
>
> Fortunately my Ranger seems to be a decently built truck. I find it to
> be as well put together as the last truck I owned, a 1991 Toyota. I'm
> crossing my fingers (til they turn Ford blue) that the reliability is as
> good!
>
> Thom Cheney
> '97 Ranger 4X4 S-cab STX
>

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Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 13:47:36 -0800
From: Thom Cheney
Subject: Re: Ranger reliability

Bryce T. Beyler wrote:
>
> Well...So far my '97 ranger has been in the shop 4 times...2 times for the
> dealers lunkheads to not fix each problem and 2 times for them to get it
> right...My first odometer calculated 1.5 miles for each mile really driven
> (factory defect) and then my slave cylinder went bad on my clutch. Both
> fixed in less than a 24 hour period, under warranty and I got a free rental
> from my dealer. Out of my own pocket, I've relpaced my winshield (my
> insurance deductible) and a factory fog light ($27 from Hella).


so far, the only glitch has been the dealer losing one of the special
grey valve stem caps while checking my air pressure during the free oil
change. Had to go back & we (the mechanic and I) robbed another truck
of one, because the counterman couldn't find a part # to replace it.
Looks like I'd better buy a set of the regular black ones, I just know
these won't last!!

TC

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Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 15:46:53 -0600
From: Jordan
Subject: Re: Explorer?

>Most discussion on rangers should cross over to the explorer, and wer'e
>blessed about not having to worry about what kind of bed cover to use!
>haha...no offence intended. :-,

No offence taken, actually the whole reason I got an explorer (2 door
sport) was to have a way to lock up stuff in the back and I figured I could
use the extra seats also. I also like the sport with a standard
transmission, I kicked a new EB with 5.0 's butt the other day in a race,
nothing beats a standard.
Jordan

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Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 18:44:46 -0600
From: bmrickman juno.com (brian k rickman)
Subject: Re: 2.3l stuff

On Fri, 2 Jan 1998 12:21:12 -0600 "WK" writes:
>> Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 20:25:28 -0600
>> From: bmrickman juno.com (brian k rickman)
>> Subject: Re: Removal of Crankshaft/Drivebelt pully on a 2.3l
>> There is an aftermarket
>> adjustable cam gear if you want to be able to play with the cam
>timing,
>Take note, that the adjustable sprockets will only work with belts of
>square tooth design, 91' and older. The 92' and newer uses a round
>toothed belt, and cam timing adjustment is possible by way off offset
>keyways. Good info, just didn't want anyone to rush out and by an
>adjustable pulley thinking it would work on all models.
>
>Warren Kurtz
>Ford Ranger Fans On-Line
>Kurtz Kustomz Motorsports
>http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.sky.net/~wkurtz
>
>
>+---------
Thanks, didn't know. All my stuff is older. By the way Mr. Kurtz
Motorsports (didn't know that either!) what kind of cam would you suggest
for a "stock" 2.3l with a 500cfm 2bb and header but must pull 18 inches
vacume at idle (track rules) but I like to wind this baby to around 7
grand. (hey, haven't blown one up yet and there's no other sound like
it!) All these four banger ranger guys are looking for more power and
this might help some. Let it BREATHE. Kind of hard to convince and
inspector that a 500 holly is emissions legal though!
Thanks again.

B Rickman bmrickman juno.com
91 Explorer 4X4 EB AOD
81 F100 2wd 351w AOD

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Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 21:04:57 -0500
From: Jerad Heffner
Subject: Re: Ranger reliability

Check your local lemon laws. . . here, if it goes to the shop so many times or
spends so many days in the shop, the dealer has to give you a new comparable
vehicle or refund the money. . . surely, not all are that way!

J. Heffner
'84 Ranger 4x4

Bryce T. Beyler wrote:

> Well...So far my '97 ranger has been in the shop 4 times...2 times for the
> dealers lunkheads to not fix each problem and 2 times for them to get it
> right...My first odometer calculated 1.5 miles for each mile really driven
> (factory defect) and then my slave cylinder went bad on my clutch. Both
> fixed in less than a 24 hour period, under warranty and I got a free rental
> from my dealer. Out of my own pocket, I've relpaced my winshield (my
> insurance deductible) and a factory fog light ($27 from Hella).
>
> Bryce
> '97 Rnger XLT 4x4 SuperCab
>
> > From: Thom Cheney
> > To: fordtrucks-small listservice.net
> > Subject: Re: fordtrucks-small-digest V1 #5
> > Date: Friday, January 02, 1998 10:39 AM
> >
> > Fortunately my Ranger seems to be a decently built truck. I find it to
> > be as well put together as the last truck I owned, a 1991 Toyota. I'm
> > crossing my fingers (til they turn Ford blue) that the reliability is as
> > good!
> >
> > Thom Cheney
> > '97 Ranger 4X4 S-cab STX
> >
> +---------Ford Truck Enthusiasts - Ranger, Explorer & Bronco 2--------+
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Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 19:39:32 -0700
From: "M.Monninger"
Subject: Re: Ranger reliability

My '93 has been in twice...once to replace the XL badge on the
passenger's side with an XLT badge to match the driver's side (I didn't
notice it for several weeks), and once to replace the ABS valve, last
summer when it was out of warranty (cost about $300). I coulda replaced
the valve myself for a lot less $ but just didn't have the time. It
looks (actually sounds) like I'm gonna pay them a lot of $ to replace
the A/C compressor before summer, tho.

I hoped it would match my '76 Econoline that I traded for the
Ranger...140K miles and still original exhaust, pumps, alternator,
etc...but it doesn't look like it'll make it. Sigh...

Mark

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Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 22:14:26 -0500
From: Barry Nestor
Subject: RE: fordtrucks-small-digest V2 #1

Nathan,

There are two places I know of where you can shop for Explorer third =
seats,
one is Performance Products 1-800-752-6111 (their summer 97 catalog =
shows prices from 587.90 thru 899.90) and the other is John Baker =
Performance Products (sorry - I don't have a catalog handy for the =
detail info but they do have an 800# - call directory assistance if you =
are interested).

Barry=20

Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 18:50:17 -0600
From: "Nathan L. Iven"
Subject: 3rd Seat for explorer??

Does any one know if there is an aftermarket option for a third seat in =
a
'92 explorer. Even something like the old station wagons that faces
backwards. My neighbor had a recent edition to the family this =
christmas,
and space is getting tight!
Are there any legal issues w/ fabricating your own????

Nathan L. Iven
nathan.iven usa.net
1994 f-150sc "300"

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Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 23:03:56 -0500
From: "Bryce T. Beyler"
Subject: Re: Ranger reliability

Well.. Here (Georgia), Lemon Law only applies in the first 12000
miles...I've got 17000 miles on mine now. Not that I'm wanting to unload
this truck since I really like it (and don't like it's competition). I was
just commenting on somebody else questioning the reliability and wanted to
see what others had to say...

Bryce
'97 Ranger XLT 4x4 SuperCab

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> From: Jerad Heffner
> To: fordtrucks-small listservice.net
> Subject: Re: Ranger reliability
> Date: Friday, January 02, 1998 9:04 PM
>
> Check your local lemon laws. . . here, if it goes to the shop so many
times or
> spends so many days in the shop, the dealer has to give you a new
comparable
> vehicle or refund the money. . . surely, not all are that way!
>
> J. Heffner
> '84 Ranger 4x4
>
> Bryce T. Beyler wrote:
>
> > Well...So far my '97 ranger has been in the shop 4 times...2 times for
the
> > dealers lunkheads to not fix each problem and 2 times for them to get
it
> > right...My first odometer calculated 1.5 miles for each mile really
driven
> > (factory defect) and then my slave cylinder went bad on my clutch.
Both
> > fixed in less than a 24 hour period, under warranty and I got a free
rental
> > from my dealer. Out of my own pocket, I've relpaced my winshield (my
> > insurance deductible) and a factory fog light ($27 from Hella).
> >
> > Bryce
> > '97 Rnger XLT 4x4 SuperCab
> >
> > > From: Thom Cheney
> > > To: fordtrucks-small listservice.net
> > > Subject: Re: fordtrucks-small-digest V1 #5
> > > Date: Friday, January 02, 1998 10:39 AM
> > >
> > > Fortunately my Ranger seems to be a decently built truck. I find it
to
> > > be as well put together as the last truck I owned, a 1991 Toyota.
I'm
> > > crossing my fingers (til they turn Ford blue) that the reliability is
as
> > > good!
> > >
> > > Thom Cheney
> > > '97 Ranger 4X4 S-cab STX
> > >
> > +---------Ford Truck Enthusiasts - Ranger, Explorer & Bronco 2--------+
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>
>
>
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Date: Sat, 03 Jan 1998 00:31:11 -0500
From: Tom Colosimo
Subject: Headers for a 2.9 Ranger

I have a '89 Ford Ranger with the 2.9 engine. I am interested in getting
a little more power without going crazy. I found a set of Pace Setter
headers. Has anyone worked with them and if so are they any good? Anyone
else have some suggestion about how to get some more power.

Any help would be appreciated!!!!

-Tom

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Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 23:20:47 -0600
From: bmrickman juno.com (brian k rickman)
Subject: Re: fordtrucks-small-digest V2 #1

>Nathan,
>
>There are two places I know of where you can shop for Explorer third
seats, one is Performance Products 1-800-752-6111 (their summer 97
catalog shows prices from 587.90 thru 899.90) and the other is John Baker
Performance Products (sorry - I don't have a catalog handy for the detail
info but they do have an 800# - call directory assistance if you are....

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