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small-list Digest Sat, 17 Jun 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 091

In This Issue:
Re: [Explorer A/C]
Re: Explorer driveline clunk
Explorer A/C
A/C R134
cooling a HP
C
Re: A/C R134
Cooling an HP 302
Re: Cooling an HP 302
Explorer A/C

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Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 21:33:54 -0500
From: Buck Shoff sktc.net>
Subject: Re: [Explorer A/C]

Hi Tim,
Just curious, what problems did they have with the fans?
Buck Shoff

Tim Turner wrote:

> 10) Make sure the fan and fan clutch are in 100% condition (Both are common
> faults on the early Explorer.)

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From: "Robert Eberhardt" uswest.net>
Subject: Re: Explorer driveline clunk
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 20:44:56 -0700

My '97 4x4 Sport started making a clunk whenever I came to a complete stop.
As soon as I stopped, it felt like someone bumped into the back of me. I
can't say that I ever felt it when taking off though. It turned out that the
front slip yoke needed lubrication. The dealer said that it appeared that
mine didn't ever get any at the factory since there was no sign of there
having been any. Once they lubricated it I haven't had the noise since. It
showed up when I had about 30,000 miles on it. I now have 54,000.
Lubricating the slip yoke is listed in your service guide. I think it is
part of the 30,000 miles service (Extended duty). If it is in your service
guide and has never been done, I would definately get it done to eliminate
that possibility.

Robert

> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> From: "Strukel, Mike" westgroup.com>
> Subject: Explorer driveline clunk
> Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 06:54:23 -0500
>
> My wife has a 98 Explorer Sport which now has 37,000 miles on. For
about
> the last 10,000 miles it has had a "clunk" in the rear driveline. The
Clunk
> is usually very pronounced. It happens when you come to a complete stop
> when braking and sometimes when you accelerate from a stop. I had in at
> the dealer a couple of times for this, and they told me that everything
was
> normal(Ya right). I have looked for the cause, but can't find it.
> U-joints, rear sway bar, etc. look good.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> mjs
> 99 F250 SD V10
> 98 Explorer Sport
> 68 Bronco
>
> ------------------------------



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From: "Gary Snook" home.com>
Subject: Explorer A/C
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 05:15:52 -0500


Tim;
RE: the leaky A/C on the 91 Explorer..... Well done! A very good disertation on the how to's of auto A/C.
Thanks again,
Gary


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From: thegman cfw.com
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 10:38:07 -0400
Subject: A/C R134

Isn't it amazing what we have to put up with in order for DuPont to have
a fresh patent for A/C gas? You see, the R12 patent was expiring when
the heavier-than-air gas "freon" suddenly became a problem with the
atmosphere. What a coincidence!
Question: Have you ever wondered how a heavier than air gas gets up
there anyway?


Just wondering,

Paul

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From: "Brian A" hotmail.com>
Subject: cooling a HP
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 17:04:43 GMT

P #)


>From: thegman cfw.com
>Reply-To: small-list ford-trucks.com
>To: small-list ford-trucks.com
>Subject: [small-list] A/C R134
>Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 10:38:07 -0400
>
>Isn't it amazing what we have to put up with in order for DuPont to have
>a fresh patent for A/C gas? You see, the R12 patent was expiring when
>the heavier-than-air gas "freon" suddenly became a problem with the
>atmosphere. What a coincidence!
>Question: Have you ever wondered how a heavier than air gas gets up
>there anyway?
>
>
>Just wondering,
>
>Paul
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From: "Brian A" hotmail.com>
Subject: C
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 17:05:20 GMT

P #)


>From: thegman cfw.com
>Reply-To: small-list ford-trucks.com
>To: small-list ford-trucks.com
>Subject: [small-list] A/C R134
>Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 10:38:07 -0400
>
>Isn't it amazing what we have to put up with in order for DuPont to have
>a fresh patent for A/C gas? You see, the R12 patent was expiring when
>the heavier-than-air gas "freon" suddenly became a problem with the
>atmosphere. What a coincidence!
>Question: Have you ever wondered how a heavier than air gas gets up
>there anyway?
>
>
>Just wondering,
>
>Paul
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Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 13:29:42 -0400
From: Ken Payne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: A/C R134

At 10:38 AM 6/18/00 , you wrote:
>Isn't it amazing what we have to put up with in order for DuPont to have
>a fresh patent for A/C gas? You see, the R12 patent was expiring when
>the heavier-than-air gas "freon" suddenly became a problem with the
>atmosphere. What a coincidence!
>Question: Have you ever wondered how a heavier than air gas gets up
>there anyway?
>
>
>Just wondering,
>
>Paul

R12 has been around a lot longer than 25 years. 25 years is the
limit on a patent. DuPont was not about to loose the R12 patent.

Ken Payne



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From: "Brian A" hotmail.com>
Subject: Cooling an HP 302
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 17:47:34 GMT

Sorry guys. My keyboard decided it needed a cleaning at the most worst
time.

Anyway,

I would like some suggestions on cooling my newly built (10 miles) 302
Bronco II. As some of you may know it is weel built. .040 over, TRW
forged flat-tops, 650 Edel. elec. choke carb. worked heads, cam, headers,
custom 4-core radiator, and brand new EDEL and motorsports top to bottom. I
installed a 190 degree therm. to keep the temp up a little. I have a 16
inch electric fan on the radiator. I am not sure what it will do on the
long and short highway trips but idle in the driveway it stays on about 225
degrees during a 90 plus day. ALSO the fan therm. is not kicking on until
very late. i think it is a 180 but you know how long it takes to get the
radiator temp. up that much. Is this unacceptable or should i look at
finding some way to add a flex fan? Should or can I get a 140 thermostat
for the electric? I am very tight on space and could not easily find a flex
that would bolt right on the water pump when i went looking for the electric
fan.

One more thing. I have a shallow pan on a C-4 that should have had a deep
pan on it. will this make the tranny run good for a few minutes then not 20
mins. later? maybe not holding enough fluid or letting it heat up too
quick. I do not have my cooler hooked up until next week when my lines and
fittings come in.

Thanks

1987 Bronco II 302

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www2.webshoppe.net/users/briana/pictures.htm


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From: "Mike Fisher" gte.net>
Subject: Re: Cooling an HP 302
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 13:06:26 -0500

I don't have any comments about cooling, but I did want to say what a nice
looking truck you have!

Mike Fisher


----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian A" hotmail.com>
To: ford-trucks.com>; ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2000 12:47 PM
Subject: [small-list] Cooling an HP 302


> Sorry guys. My keyboard decided it needed a cleaning at the most worst
> time.
>
> Anyway,
>
> I would like some suggestions on cooling my newly built (10 miles) 302
> Bronco II. As some of you may know it is weel built. .040 over, TRW
> forged flat-tops, 650 Edel. elec. choke carb. worked heads, cam, headers,
> custom 4-core radiator, and brand new EDEL and motorsports top to bottom.
I
> installed a 190 degree therm. to keep the temp up a little. I have a 16
> inch electric fan on the radiator. I am not sure what it will do on the
> long and short highway trips but idle in the driveway it stays on about
225
> degrees during a 90 plus day. ALSO the fan therm. is not kicking on until
> very late. i think it is a 180 but you know how long it takes to get the
> radiator temp. up that much. Is this unacceptable or should i look at
> finding some way to add a flex fan? Should or can I get a 140 thermostat
> for the electric? I am very tight on space and could not easily find a
flex
> that would bolt right on the water pump when i went looking for the
electric
> fan.
>
> One more thing. I have a shallow pan on a C-4 that should have had a deep
> pan on it. will this make the tranny run good for a few minutes then not
20
> mins. later? maybe not holding enough fluid or letting it heat up too
> quick. I do not have my cooler hooked up until next week when my lines
and
> fittings come in.
>
> Thanks
>
> 1987 Bronco II 302
>
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www2.webshoppe.net/users/briana/pictures.htm
>
>
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Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 19:58:45 -0700
From: scott ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Explorer A/C

Tim,

Thank you very much for the detailed answer to my question.


>>>>13) You may wish to do the parts changing yourself and then have a shop do the evacuation and charging to avoid buying the vacuum pump and guages.

I believe this is what I will do.


Thanks again,Scott

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