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small-list Digest Sat, 10 Jun 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 086

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Re: [no 4x4]
Re: [What priced used?]
Re: What priced used?
Re: What priced used?
Re: no 4x4

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Date: 10 Jun 00 20:42:26 EDT
From: Tim Turner netscape.net>
Subject: Re: [no 4x4]

"Steve Nash" erols.com> wrote:
> My Explorer is 1991 4x4, but the 4x4 doesn't work. When you push the
button
> there is an electronic clicking noise from the drivers side rear of the
> truck. Anyone have any ideas on what the problem is? BTW, it will go into
> 4x4 about once out of every 20 times you hit the button.
>

As Steve and David have both said the electronic shift motor is a problematic
area, it can be taken apart and cleaned if you're handy with doing such. (Of
course if you're unsuccessful you're no worse off then you were..) Personally
I much prefer a mechanical linkage for my 4 by 4 operation; I can feel the
engagement and know if the linkage has come apart or needs adjustment BEFORE I
get stuck! ;-)

Tim

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Date: 10 Jun 00 21:04:50 EDT
From: Tim Turner netscape.net>
Subject: Re: [What priced used?]

Adam McLaughlin jps.net> wrote:
> I have the option to buy a 1987 2.9. It has 180 compression acorss all
> six cylinders. The junkyard wants $800 for it. Is this a fair price? The
> engine comes complete from intake to exhaust manifold, save the wiring
> harness. (But all of the sensors and parts are there)
>
> What do you guys think?

Well... what would be the price be for all the sensors and actuators etc. in
the computer system come to for used parts? Might be an interesting
comparison. Could be like getting an engine for free if you look at it that
way.

> My current 2.9 has that same compression (190 to 180) and 170K miles on
> it. I like to keep extras on the shelf, so would this one be a good
> candidate? Is the price fair?

I'm not in your area so I can't say if the price is fair or not but a few
phone calls to some junkyards in your area could probably give you a clue. My
suggestion (if you're up to the task) would be to get a complete engine that
isn't in as good a shape for less money and use the savings to rebuild it
yourself. Of course you can just have this engine on hand and swap it in when
the original fails and it should buy you some time to rebuild (or have
rebuilt) the first one...

Tim

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Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 00:09:51 -0400
From: Stephen Bozzone rockzone.com>
Subject: Re: What priced used?

From what I understand, it's more important that the compression is
close all around in each cylinder than at what it's putting out.

I was going to suggest (as Tim did already) that you find a cheaper
block to rebuild yourself this way you know what sort of shape it's in
and know what's been replaced.

When you say all the sensors, does this also include the wiring
harness? They don't know how many miles? hmmmm. What sort of warranty
are they offering? What year 2.9 are you running now? Did the 87's
have EGR?

Good luck,
Steve

Adam McLaughlin wrote:
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> They didn't say. They just told me compression. Simply put, "180".
>
> Just for kicks, I tested my compression on my 175K mile 2.9. With a brand new
> compression guage, I found 165 to 170 in all six cylinders. I tested 90
> minutes after I shut off the engine.
>
> Is there much difference between the two? Would it be noticeable if I swapped
> motors?
>
> I was interested in the engine just for a back-up in case something goes
> wrong.
>
> Adam
>
> Stephen Bozzone wrote:
>
> > How many miles? Seems a bit pricey to me.. just for the engine.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Steve
> >
> > Adam McLaughlin wrote:
> > >
> > > I have the option to buy a 1987 2.9. It has 180 compression acorss all
> > > six cylinders. The junkyard wants $800 for it. Is this a fair price? The
> > > engine comes complete from intake to exhaust manifold, save the wiring
> > > harness. (But all of the sensors and parts are there)
> >
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From: ROlson1039 aol.com
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 08:20:27 EDT
Subject: Re: What priced used?

im not sure what the prices in your area are but in my area ( NYC) you can
get as many junkyard engines as ya want for between three and five hundred
dollars... i dont think its a good deal

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From: "Nestor, Barry" compaq.com>
Subject: Re: no 4x4
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 20:19:22 -0400


Steve Nash wrote:
>
> My Explorer is 1991 4x4, but the 4x4 doesn't work. When you push the
button
> there is an electronic clicking noise from the drivers side rear of the
> truck. Anyone have any ideas on what the problem is? BTW, it will go
into
> 4x4 about once out of every 20 times you hit the button.
>
> Steve
>

Steve,

I had the same problem with my 91 Explorer about 3 years ago. After taking
the shift motor out of the truck and cleaning it up it worked fine and has
worked everytime I've asked it to since. I hope this suggestion works out
for you--there are quite a few of us who have found it to be worth the
effort.

Regards,
Barry







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