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small-list Digest Wed, 07 Jun 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 084

In This Issue:
Re: [engine codes]
Re: [engine codes]
Re: [Re: Removing Exhaust Manifolds off 2.9 (bolts are ou
Re: [engine codes]
Re: Pre Modular EGR faults
Re: Pre Modular EGR faults
Gun Rack for a Ranger
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Date: 7 Jun 00 19:25:21 EDT
From: Tim Turner netscape.net>
Subject: Re: [engine codes]

"Joe Merchak" eclipse.net> wrote:
> My 99 Ranger had the check engine light come on today. The dealer can not
> take it till next week so I would like to check to make sure that my
> driving to work everyday is not going to damage anything.

Assuming that it's running OK and your daily commute isn't all that long then
there should not be any noticeable damage. It doesn't take much for OBD-II to
trip the light.

> Is there anyway
> of reading the codes via the light, I do not have a tester.

After 1995 I'm not aware of any way to access them in the field without a
tester. You might want to check that your gas cap is good and tight, this can
trip the light if it's not good and snug. If it's an intermittent problem the
light may go out after a few Drive cycles.

Tim

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From: Eric Sneed REIL.COM>
Subject: Re: [engine codes]
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 16:33:43 -0700

On the subject of codes I have a question. My 89 f150 300 was giving me the
following codes 32 and 33 these are related too the Egr valve not responding
properly and the EVP sensor doing the same. My question is why after
replacing the EVP and "rebooting" the EEC-IV why would my check engine
light stays on permanently ?. This I find strange because before the new
EVP the light would come on only under certain conditions. I have since put
the old EVP back on the truck, but to no avail. I will check the codes again
tonight when I get home. Just looking at this point for some possible causes
or insight.

Thanks In Advance

Eric S

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Turner [SMTP:ManicMechanicNC netscape.net]
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 4:25 PM
To: small-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [small-list] Re: [engine codes]

"Joe Merchak" eclipse.net> wrote:
> My 99 Ranger had the check engine light come on today. The dealer
can not
> take it till next week so I would like to check to make sure that
my
> driving to work everyday is not going to damage anything.

Assuming that it's running OK and your daily commute isn't all that
long then
there should not be any noticeable damage. It doesn't take much for
OBD-II to
trip the light.

> Is there anyway
> of reading the codes via the light, I do not have a tester.

After 1995 I'm not aware of any way to access them in the field
without a
tester. You might want to check that your gas cap is good and
tight, this can
trip the light if it's not good and snug. If it's an intermittent
problem the
light may go out after a few Drive cycles.

Tim

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Date: 7 Jun 00 19:44:39 EDT
From: Tim Turner netscape.net>
Subject: Re: [Re: Removing Exhaust Manifolds off 2.9 (bolts are ou

Adam McLaughlin jps.net> wrote:
> Steve,
>
> Take it from me, the guy who broke eight bolts on the installation of
headers to
> his 1988 2.9.

Ouch!

> Just pull those two bolts on each manifold that connects them to
> the Y pipe. They are of a larger size, easier to get at, and will make this
job
> a lot less difficult.

You and Buck are both quite correct on that; a long pry bar might move 'em
back enough to get them out of the way but then they'll be almost impossible
to refit when you go to install them... Better to knock the bolts loose at
the head pipe. On vehicles that have enough room I usually leave the
manifolds on and remove them with the heads for easier access to the bolts.


> Oh, and please coat the threads with anti-sieze when you get everything back
in.

You will certainly thank yourself if you do the next time you go into it!
(Hopefully a long time from now) :-)

Tim

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From: "Joe Merchak" eclipse.net>
Subject: Re: [engine codes]
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 20:36:26 -0400

No the truck is getting worse. My fuel mileage has dropped to about 10 GPM
and it has been losing power. I did notice that the engine started pinging
2 days prior to the light coming on. I guess I am going to have to part the
truck until it can get in to the shop.

-----Original Message-----
From: small-list-bounce ford-trucks.com
[mailto:small-list-bounce ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of Tim Turner
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 7:25 PM
To: small-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [small-list] Re: [engine codes]


"Joe Merchak" eclipse.net> wrote:
> My 99 Ranger had the check engine light come on today. The dealer can not
> take it till next week so I would like to check to make sure that my
> driving to work everyday is not going to damage anything.

Assuming that it's running OK and your daily commute isn't all that long
then
there should not be any noticeable damage. It doesn't take much for OBD-II
to
trip the light.

> Is there anyway
> of reading the codes via the light, I do not have a tester.

After 1995 I'm not aware of any way to access them in the field without a
tester. You might want to check that your gas cap is good and tight, this
can
trip the light if it's not good and snug. If it's an intermittent problem
the
light may go out after a few Drive cycles.

Tim

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Date: 7 Jun 00 23:27:47 EDT
From: Tim Turner netscape.net>
Subject: Re: Pre Modular EGR faults

Eric Sneed reil.com> wrote:

> On the subject of codes I have a question. My 89 f150 300 was giving me
the
> following codes 32 and 33 these are related too the Egr valve not
responding
> properly and the EVP sensor doing the same.

Basically the EGR system consists of the valve, sensor, vacuum solenoid and
piping related to it; the usual faults are in the valve and sensor. (Unlike
the modular engine where the usual fault is carbon in the passages.)

> My question is why after
> replacing the EVP and "rebooting" the EEC-IV why would my check engine
> light stays on permanently ?.

It now sees a fault that is outside normal parameters; need to pull the
code(s) and do some measuring with a DVOM to see why. If the EGR is held open
a bit by some carbon the new EVP/PFE may be doing it's job but the reading is
too high. Also depending on the sensor used the reading may be just high/low
enough to cause the light. In general I suggest replacing both the EGR valve
and the sensor on the pre-modular engines. The filter in the EGR solenoid
(under the round cover) sometimes gets clogged and will hold the EGR open as
well; a quick inspection/removal can determine this.


> This I find strange because before the new
> EVP the light would come on only under certain conditions. I have since put
> the old EVP back on the truck, but to no avail. I will check the codes
again
> tonight when I get home. Just looking at this point for some possible
causes
> or insight.

Poor connection in the wiring plug? Diaphragm failing in the EGR valve? EGR
solenoid going bad? Vacuum hose leaking more & more to the solenoid? etc...

Tim

Tim

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From: Eric Sneed REIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Pre Modular EGR faults
Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 08:21:22 -0700

Tim I pulled the codes and got the 32 code again, I am going to check and
clean the valve and see if that changes anything. If it does not change, I
will replace the valve.

Thanks

Eric S

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Turner [SMTP:ManicMechanicNC netscape.net]
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 8:28 PM
To: small-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [small-list] Re: Pre Modular EGR faults

Eric Sneed reil.com> wrote:

> On the subject of codes I have a question. My 89 f150 300 was
giving me
the
> following codes 32 and 33 these are related too the Egr valve not
responding
> properly and the EVP sensor doing the same.

Basically the EGR system consists of the valve, sensor, vacuum
solenoid and
piping related to it; the usual faults are in the valve and sensor.
(Unlike
the modular engine where the usual fault is carbon in the passages.)

> My question is why after
> replacing the EVP and "rebooting" the EEC-IV why would my check
engine
> light stays on permanently ?.

It now sees a fault that is outside normal parameters; need to pull
the
code(s) and do some measuring with a DVOM to see why. If the EGR is
held open
a bit by some carbon the new EVP/PFE may be doing it's job but the
reading is
too high. Also depending on the sensor used the reading may be just
high/low
enough to cause the light. In general I suggest replacing both the
EGR valve
and the sensor on the pre-modular engines. The filter in the EGR
solenoid
(under the round cover) sometimes gets clogged and will hold the EGR
open as
well; a quick inspection/removal can determine this.


> This I find strange because before the new
> EVP the light would come on only under certain conditions. I have
since put
> the old EVP back on the truck, but to no avail. I will check the
codes
again
> tonight when I get home. Just looking at this point for some
possible
causes
> or insight.

Poor connection in the wiring plug? Diaphragm failing in the EGR
valve? EGR
solenoid going bad? Vacuum hose leaking more & more to the
solenoid? etc...

Tim

Tim

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From: william.hickey bankofamerica.com
Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 14:56:00 -0400
Subject: Gun Rack for a Ranger



Anyone know where I can buy a gun rack that will fit a 99 Ranger ?



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From: ROlson1039 aol.com
Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 19:05:36 EDT
Subject: Re: Gun Rack for a Ranger

I dunno but if ya find one please let me know! LOL

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