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small-list Digest Mon, 14 Feb 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 006

In This Issue:
Tri Color Tail Lights
"Yank" Fords in Europe
"Should I recommend..."
Fuel economy problems (was Re: small-list Digest V2000 #5

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From: JaWise aol.com
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 03:01:32 EST
Subject: Tri Color Tail Lights

>>I I have noticed that many Ford cars and trucks used to have tri-color
>> tail lights, which I think they are helpful, especially when the hazard
>>lights and the turn signals are on.

Of course they are saving 2 light bulbs and 2 light bulb sockets per car. I
agree that the tricolor is much better. Looks like they are also cheapening
up on the front parking lights on the explorer. I love the 3 bulb setup on
my 97. Looks like the 2001's are gonna go back to the 1 bulb type. What a
bummer.

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From: ThomasUcen premiereworld.de
Subject: "Yank" Fords in Europe
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 09:33:05 +0100

Bill, it's not the way you think.
In the past ten years, Ford Europe has started to sell US Fords officially
through their dealer network after having done some modifications on the
brakes and suspension and partly by installing their own Euro engines. The
Probe has been on the market for a long time, the "new" Explorer (not the
old one sharing the Aerostar's platform) is selling pretty well. Some car
rental agencies have it in stock. The Windstar is also being sold but is not
too popular. Ford has announced to officially sell the Ranger starting with
this model year. I doubt that the Ford shops lack training or service
documentation on the vehicles they are supposed to work on. Actually, lots
of people in the US drive German cars and I think the Mercedes or Audi
mechanics are as well trained and informed as their German counterparts.
My local smalltown Ford dealer is very helpful and has already done some
repairs on my Aerostar. Parts can be obtained through a large regional

dealership and no-one has a problem with my import. I've had different
experiences with GM and Chrysler dealers. They were extremely unfriendly and
partly refused to sell me parts since I had not bought the cars from them.
Although I don't like the European Fords I'd get a "Yank" designed Ford
anytime again.

Tom Ucen
1993 Aerostar
Munich, Germany


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Von: William Hickey [mailto:billhickey hotmail.com]
Gesendet am: Samstag, 12. Februar 2000 22:50
An: small-list ford-trucks.com
Betreff: [small-list] Re: Reliabilty of Ford

>-snip-
> >Ford failed on all counts to satisfy even the most basic rudiments of
> >customer service.
Neil,
I do remember your posts concerning problems with Ford in the UK. I was
always curious why you even considered purchasing a 'Yank' designed Explorer

over there. I assume that Ford doesn't invest much money into their service

organization over there. How often do you see an Explorer or Ranger on the
road ? I have been told that there a few, but our trucks and SUVs are
certainly not big sellers over there. I would not lay the blame on
'LandRover' or another British manufacturer if I puchased a 'Brit' designed
truck over here in the USA and had problems with the 'Yank' dealer
organization. If I lived over there, I would not buy a Ford vehicle that
was primarily marketed over here for the same reason why I wouldn't purchase

a British designed truck over here ...... lack of service facilities and
questionable training of the service organization by the parent
manufacturer.

Regards,
Bill


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From: rgstein pacbell.net
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 01:45:48 -0800
Subject: "Should I recommend..."

Hey, y'all,

Thanks for the lively and informed feedback about whether I should
recommend a Ranger for my friend Paul. I especially appreciated the
"life experience." I didn't appreciate the jingoism: hey, guys, can we
stop using the word "Jap?" I have a Japanese-American friend and I
really like him.

I've always wanted to "buy American." I believe in supporting our
businesses, and especially supporting our fellow Americans who tighten
the bolts and dip our Fords in paint. It has sometimes been difficult to
do this, because often it seems that companies overseas are often more....

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