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small-list Digest Sun, 16 Apr 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 051

In This Issue:
Re: Cure for boredom 2
Re: Tires for Aerostar: Tim's piece
Fixing that Aerostar
Re: Resetting the Aerostar speedometer
Re: Cure for boredom 2
Re: Cure for boredom 2
Re: Cure for boredom 2
AW: Re: EGR code!

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Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 08:24:45 -0700
From: Richard pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: Cure for boredom 2

Dave wrote
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What are some things to watch for in a used 4x4 Ranger or AWD Aerostar
and would the van survive the rock and dirt roads I'd be driving on in
the
mountains of E. WA.

My reply
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Do not buy an Aerostar for this purpose. Maintenance effort and costs in
an Aerostar
are incredibly high. Check the Car Talk section of cars.com for the
money part. There,
for '91, for example, I found Fords to be above average in maintenance
expense, and
Aerostars running twice! the cost of all Fords. Many jobs in the
super-cramped engine
compartment are just this side of impossible.

Yeah, I like my Aerostar -- driving, that it. I curse Ford's engineers
and bean counters
fairly often (and certainly in this list). My solution is similar to
what I used to tell some
customers when I was in the custom stereo business -- people for whom
we'd fixed
Sony and Fisher junk and all department store brands (and, alas, some
Yamaha, too):
treat it very gently and it will last for you. My feeling is that the
Aerostar, despite it's
being a truck, with a few heavy-duty exceptions, is really a light-duty
product. Not
for driving on rocks. An the other hand, if you want to enjoy all the
rattles that develop
as you quickly drive it into the ground on on the dirt roads, you can
call it quits when
the puny automatic transmission gives out. I wish that this weren't
true, but I'm afraid
that it is.

Richard


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Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 08:45:45 -0700
From: Richard pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: Tires for Aerostar: Tim's piece

Tim,

I really enjoyed reading your reply to my Aerostar tire post. That list
of tire/wheel variations
is really something: it appears that all eighteen variations boil down
to just two almost-identical
tire and wheel sizes! And what in the world is a "5-passenger" Aerostar?

Further, what about those Aerostar commercial vehicles I've seen around
Berkeley fitted
with undersized tires? As an aside, I really do see a lot of Aerostars
in commercial service, including fleets (AT&T, Univ. of Cal., etc.) and
wonder if the owners know something I
don't. I mean, don't they have the same maintenance nightmares that I
do? Then again, the
shop that did my 3.0 head gaskets said that they've done a lot of head
gaskets and trannys
in the fleet Aerostars, too.

I did think about Bridgestone, but probably should have tried calling
them up (my Japanese
mechanic at the time didn't like them). When I was considering
Bridgestones, I had one of
those really sour experiences at Wards. There, the salesman swore to me
that his "Turesna"
was a standard Bridgestone model (note the spelling: the standard
product is "Turanza.").

When I call Michelin on the phone, the people there really seem to know
the characteristics
of their products. I was able to discuss qualities such as ride,
cornering, wet traction, etc., and get intelligent comparisons with
which to home-in on what I needed.

But here's the nagging question in my mind based on Tom Ucen's
experience: What about
Cooper tires? He really likes his.

Richard


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Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 08:56:23 -0700
From: Richard pacbell.net>
Subject: Fixing that Aerostar

I wrote
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> I can get really fond of the Aerostar.
> Until it comes time to fix it, which is too often. Then the cursing
> begins and continues and continues.

Tim Turner replied
----------------------------------------------------------------
For you AND the technician involved.

Me again
---------------------------------------------------------------------------

Yeah. I have an emotional conflict here.
Having been in the repair business myself (it was stereo equipment), I
have
a twinge of sympathy and dread whenever I bring my A'star to a mechanic
for repair. You've got to, let's say, replace a junky motor in a Sony
cassette
deck to truly know how manufacturers design their products to be
virtually
unfixable. Even so, it's been hard for me to accept that an auto company
would
design a car, or especially a truck, this way.

As I've said here, I like driving it (as opposed to parking it -- you
can't see your clearances at all), and it offers a couple of unique
physical
advantages for me.

The dread is my fear that the mechanic will become so achy, scraped, and
burned
that he will be frustrated and angry, and maul a few things while doing
the fix. Believe
me, I've experienced many times in my life mechanics damaging my car. I
wish this
weren't true, because I have a lot of respect for good mechanics, and
certainly for Tim.

Richard


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Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 08:59:53 -0700
From: Richard pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: Resetting the Aerostar speedometer

Mike wrote
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... the biggest tire listed for any type (cargo, passenger, AWD, etc.)
of Aerostar is P215/75/14. ...Remember, if you increase tire size, your
speedometer and odometer will read low. Your dealer should be able to
set you up with the right speedometer drive gear to correct the odometer
and speedometer.

This might be a good way to go.
My owner's manual ('92) actually says that the speedometer adjustment is
electronic, and
that there's a limit of three times that it may be performed.

Richard


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From: "Mike Haight" home.com>
Subject: Re: Cure for boredom 2
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 11:01:42 -0400

Aerostar is basically a van style body on a basic Ranger frame, even
the AWD models are not the same as the Ranger 4x4 model. Aerostar is
good for road warriors (translate commuters and family haulers) but
not much for off-road use. Best to stick with a true 4x4 and if you
want to lie down in the back then you need the 8 ft bed in whatever
you decide to buy. Good Luck!

Thank You, Friend
Take Care and Have a Good Day.
CUL8R, Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard" pacbell.net>
To: ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2000 11:24 AM
Subject: [small-list] Re: Cure for boredom 2


> Dave wrote
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
------------
>
> What are some things to watch for in a used 4x4 Ranger or AWD
Aerostar
> and would the van survive the rock and dirt roads I'd be driving on
in
> the
> mountains of E. WA.
>
> My reply
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------
>
> Do not buy an Aerostar for this purpose. Maintenance effort and
costs in
> an Aerostar
> are incredibly high. Check the Car Talk section of cars.com for the
> money part. There,
> for '91, for example, I found Fords to be above average in
maintenance
> expense, and
> Aerostars running twice! the cost of all Fords. Many jobs in the
> super-cramped engine
> compartment are just this side of impossible.
>
> Yeah, I like my Aerostar -- driving, that it. I curse Ford's
engineers
> and bean counters
> fairly often (and certainly in this list). My solution is similar to
> what I used to tell some
> customers when I was in the custom stereo business -- people for
whom
> we'd fixed
> Sony and Fisher junk and all department store brands (and, alas,
some
> Yamaha, too):
> treat it very gently and it will last for you. My feeling is that
the
> Aerostar, despite it's
> being a truck, with a few heavy-duty exceptions, is really a
light-duty
> product. Not
> for driving on rocks. An the other hand, if you want to enjoy all
the
> rattles that develop
> as you quickly drive it into the ground on on the dirt roads, you
can
> call it quits when
> the puny automatic transmission gives out. I wish that this weren't
> true, but I'm afraid
> that it is.
>
> Richard
>
> ==========================================================
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> the words "unsubscribe small-list" in the subject of the
> message.
>
>


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From: "Chris Oostveen" i2k.com>
Subject: Re: Cure for boredom 2
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 13:40:39 -0400



> Aerostar is basically a van style body on a basic Ranger frame, even
> the AWD models are not the same as the Ranger 4x4 model. Aerostar is
> good for road warriors (translate commuters and family haulers) but

Looking at the bottom of my Aerostar it looks as though the *frame* is an
integral part of the body and could not be removed if you wanted to. A
friend of mine is in the process of converting his to 4wd using a ranger
frame. He is attaching the long bed ranger frame to the Aerostar's *frame*.
By doing so he will have a taller Aerostar, but will be 4wd and all of the
Rangers chassis parts will remain intact.

Chris


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Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 21:35:06 -0500
From: Buck Shoff sktc.net>
Subject: Re: Cure for boredom 2

Hi Dave,
It looks to me like it would be easier for you to aquire the
navigational type honey that you desire with a 4WD Ranger than a soccer
mom type van thingee. Old farts (your term) could probably use the
extra edge. :) There is another possibility, get a 4WD Explorer, then
any prospective honeys might mistake you for a yuppie instead of an old
fart. Get a good one, Ranger or Explorer, because beater 4WD's are by
definition usually -beat-. Try to stay away from the 2.9 engine, they
are known for cracking heads. Just 2 cents from a guy that owns,
operates, and loves a 94 Ranger 4WD. Not many rocks around here, but I
go where I want to go in mud and snow. One other piece of advice when
buying used, get the mostest for the leastest. Good luck with whatever
you end up with. Buck Shoff


Dukedad777 aol.com wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> Enjoyed this list for quite some time now, it's a great resource.
> I've had my 94 Ranger for almost a year now ( S-cab, 2wd, 4liter, auto, ) and
> the only mod. has been to 15" wheels from the 14" steel 4 spoke which I never
> liked. Apart from pinging on 87 octane it's been a reliable vehicle. Trouble
> is I'm bored with it, and don't see waiting for another 36 payments for a
> change. I thought long and hard and looked for a long time before buying and
> it's almost a perfect fit for my needs. But somethings missing ( besides a
> honey to navigate:- )

> So, do I buy a beater 4x4 and keep my 94, or trade it for earlier 90's
> 4x4, or go for an AWD Aerostar, got to stay in the "family" so as not to
> leave the list.

> TIA for replies, Dave

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From: ThomasUcen premiereworld.de
Subject: AW: Re: EGR code!
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 08:59:35 +0200

Von: George Kowal [mailto:gkowal earthlink.net]
Gesendet am: Samstag, 15. April 2000 07:01
An: small-list ford-trucks.com
Betreff: [small-list] Re: EGR code!


There's an online web site that lists the codes and how to read them.


Hi,
where can I find this website? It might be a good idea to have a second code
source next to my Well's book.

thanks,
Tom Ucen
1993 Aerostar 3.0L Ext.

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