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small-list Digest Fri, 14 Apr 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 050

In This Issue:
Re: EGR code!
Re: Tires for Aerostar
Cure for boredom 2
Re: [Re: Tires for Aerostar]
Re: Maximum Aerostar tire size

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Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 01:01:20 -0400
From: George Kowal earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: EGR code!



"Ron,Marge,Ted" wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Been having the check engine light come on on my wife's 94 Explorer with 49K on it. The light usually comes on within a mile of driving it and then it stays on until you turn the engine off. When it comes on, I notice no difference in the way it runs or idles. As of late, we have noticed a decline in fuel mileage from around 23 on a trip down to 18mpg. When I jumper the wires on the test connector, I get a code of 332 from the blinking engine light. According to the info I have, #332 deals with the EGR valve. When I took it to the dealer, the tech scanned it and said that there is a high speed miss. When I asked about the EGR, he said it doesn't have anything to do with it. So, he installed a new set of plugs, which I wanted done anyway, and also said there was a carbon buildup on the valves. He injected a solution into the fuel rail, waited an hour, then ran the engine to clear it of carbon. When I asked if this would keep the light from coming back on, he said it might s!
> till come on until all the carbon is finally burned off. Well, needless to say, the light is still coming on the same as it has been. Sounds like bull to me. Anyone out there have any experience with a #332 code and what did you do to fix it. Also, about 2 months ago, new O2 sensors were installed because of a different code that came up! Thanks for any and all help,
> Ron

I had a very similar problem with my 94 Explorer. I think I may have had the same code.
There's an online web site that lists the codes and how to read them.
I carefully took apart my EGR valve, suspecting that, then it looked okay so I successfully reinstalled it.
Then I found the real culprit was the EGR sensor, which is easy to change yet, hard to find at parts stores or even dealers. Its a rectangular sensor unit with two rubber sensor hoses going down to the exhaust tube. Literally took about 5 minutes to change. It also has an electronic plug on it and one hex screw holds it in. After searching the phone books for parts stores, junkyards, and other vendors,I found that NAPA dealers carry new exact replacements for about $40 or so.
Replacing this sensor cured the problem for over a half year now.
Taking apart the old one for curiosity, I found a diaphragm with a sort of ceramic mic type sensor on it running to an internal circuit board. It looked like maybe the diaphragm on mine was darkened with carbon. Anyway, that's what did the trick on my 94. George K.


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Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 22:50:59 -0700
From: Richard pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: Tires for Aerostar


From: "Mark Biederbeck" email.msn.com>
Subject: Maximum Aerostar tire size
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 19:57:58 -0700

Mark Biederbeck wrote
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I need new tires for my Aerostar(93 AWD extended). Has anyone fit
anything
larger than the standard P215/70R14 on these? I want a heavier duty
tire,
maybe even an LT series. Obviously I don't want it to rub anywhere. I
think the cargo versions use a larger series, does anyone know what
size?

My reply
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I just put a set of Michelin "X-Ones" on my '92 regular length Aerostar.
This is with apologies ot Tim Turner, who doesn't like Michelins for
good Mechanic's reasons (a b**** to put on). I feel good about Michelins
because they are the only company from whom I can get intelligent answer
about the qualities of their different models, and can therefore make an
informed decision. X-One is their top touring tire that will fit the
Aerostar. Michelin makes at least four different models in this size.

Relative to an extended-length '94 Aerostar with the stock XW-4 that I
drove around my neighborhood over a year ago, I'd make this comparison
against the X-One. The X-One's ride is comparable to the XW-4: nicely
cushioned over the small bumps. The X-One corners better, tracks better,
brakes better, and accelerates better. In other words, it seems to grip
the road better. It is supposed to be great in the rain, but I haven't
tried this yet so can't report. I believe it has a better load rating,
but I didn't check into it. I confess that my Aerostar came to me with
a set of _undersize_ wide tires. Aside from a slight edge in cornering
over the XW-4, they were horrible.

After some study, here's what I come up with about Aerostar tire sizes.
Most Aerostars were equipped with 215/70R14. _Some_ extended-length ones
came with 215/75R14. There doesn't seem to be any particular reason that
Ford put this size on some of them. The 75 is slightly larger. Some of
the commercial Aerostar vans I've looked at around Berkeley are equipped
with _smaller_ tires. This may be a good choice for local cargo hauling
on the hills around here: more torque.

I believe that you will find a little more variety in the 70 than in
the 75. I could swear that I've seen one Aerostar fitted with 15"
wheels, but I didn't note the tire size. Costco (and others) sell a
"club" tire that appears to be virtually identical to the X-One called
the" X-Radial Plus" in the 70. However, in the 75, their product is the
"X-Radial," which I've been told is a disaster on an Aerostar by a guy
who made the mistake of buying a set: really hard-riding and bouncy.

From my experience, I feel that the stock tire size is an excellent
match to the Aerostar's suspension and engine torque curve for
all-around driving. To me, it feels "right" in all respects in both city
and freeway driving. With my new Michelins, the vehicle even seems to
have some semblance to rack-and-pinion steering (which it indeed has!).
However, even with a 4-wheel alignment at the same time, there is still
a little road wander, which seems endemic to this vehicle and trucks in
general. The Aerostar, after all, is a truck.

I'd also speculate that many loads that people would carry would
probably equal the weight of the Aerostar's sometimes-cursed very heavy
rear seats that you'd remove to haul cargo. Thus, there might not be a
need for heavier-duty tires. The Aerostar does, to me, seem very touchy
about its rubber. With the tires I took off, I felt every dime in the
road. I think that the XW-4 was a good OEM match for the vehicle in
terms of tire spring rate to vehicle spring rate (boy, I've never seen
this quality mentioned before).

Our list member in Germany was required by law to replace the tires on
his extended-length Aerostar with the exact size on the placard: in his
case, 215/75/14. He could only find this size in a specialty shop that
carries American tires, and only in one model, a Cooper snow tire. He's
been very pleased with these tires in all respects. Don't forget that
he's driving a lot faster there than what's legal here. Based on what he
wrote, if I'd had the time, I would have looked into Coopers. This is a
smaller, southern US company that hasn't been gobbled up by the majors.

This exhausts what I can say about Aerostar tires. Hope this is useful.
What do you think?

Richard

PS: I've been taking notice of the commercial Aerostars I've been seeing
on the streets here in the East Bay and in San Francisco, where they're
fairly common due to restricted-sized parking spaces. I'm kinda amazed
by all the subtle variations in the commercial bodies: window placement,
window sizes, back door types.

I can get really fond of the Aerostar.
Until it comes time to fix it, which is too often. Then the cursing
begins and continues and continues.


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From: Dukedad777 aol.com
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 21:17:40 EDT
Subject: Cure for boredom 2

Hi all,
Enjoyed this list for quite some time now, it's a great resource.
I've had my 94 Ranger for almost a year now ( S-cab, 2wd, 4liter, auto, ) and
the only mod. has been to 15" wheels from the 14" steel 4 spoke which I never
liked. Apart from pinging on 87 octane it's been a reliable vehicle. Trouble
is I'm bored with it, and don't see waiting for another 36 payments for a
change. I thought long and hard and looked for a long time before buying and
it's almost a perfect fit for my needs. But somethings missing ( besides a
honey to navigate:- )
I had an 87 4x4 for a short time until my son needed transportation and
he ended up with it , the one time I did some rock hopping in it , I really
liked it .
So, do I buy a beater 4x4 and keep my 94, or trade it for earlier 90's
4x4, or go for an AWD Aerostar, got to stay in the "family" so as not to
leave the list.
Van appeals as climbing into the truck bed /canopy is more of a struggle
than it used to be, when camping, etc.( Read old fart ) Never owned a van
before though.(Don't want to be seen as old fart )
BTW the 87 Ranger has 180k and original clutch, despite getting some hard
driving the last 45k or so.
What are some things to watch for in a used 4x4 Ranger or AWD Aerostar
and would the van survive the rock and dirt roads I'd be driving on in the
mountains of E. WA.

TIA for replies, Dave

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Date: 15 Apr 00 21:35:47 EDT
From: Tim Turner netscape.net>
Subject: Re: [Re: Tires for Aerostar]

Richard pacbell.net> wrote:
>
>
>> Mark Biederbeck wrote
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> I need new tires for my Aerostar(93 AWD extended). Has anyone fit
>> anything
>> larger than the standard P215/70R14 on these? I want a heavier duty
>> tire,
>> maybe even an LT series. Obviously I don't want it to rub anywhere. I
>> think the cargo versions use a larger series, does anyone know what
>> size?

Going through the tire guide 'most' A'stars used the 215/70/14s but some used
the 215/75s. Didn't seem to be much rhyme or reason to which had the 75
series tires though and it was an option on certain styles. (Listed in boring
detail later in this message.)

> My reply
>
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>
> I just put a set of Michelin "X-Ones" on my '92 regular length Aerostar.
> This is with apologies ot Tim Turner, who doesn't like Michelins for
> good Mechanic's reasons (a b**** to put on).

And had poor life out of them; but 20 years ago and I had a VERY heavy foot at
that time.. :-)

> I feel good about Michelins
> because they are the only company from whom I can get intelligent answer
> about the qualities of their different models, and can therefore make an
> informed decision.

One of the reasons I like Bridgestone; published data on overall size, rpm,
original tread depth, blah, blah. Original depth can vary as much as 4/32"
depending on the size in certain flotation types; might be a deciding factor
on which size to use for those that run such.

> X-One is their top touring tire that will fit the
> Aerostar. Michelin makes at least four different models in this size.

B'stone Turanza or Turanza-T might be similar; anyone have comment?

> After some study, here's what I come up with about Aerostar tire sizes.
> Most Aerostars were equipped with 215/70R14. _Some_ extended-length ones
> came with 215/75R14. There doesn't seem to be any particular reason that
> Ford put this size on some of them.

My conclusion also.

> The 75 is slightly larger.

But not enough to worry about for speedometer calibration.

> I believe that you will find a little more variety in the 70 than in
> the 75. I could swear that I've seen one Aerostar fitted with 15"
> wheels, but I didn't note the tire size.

Width allowing probably 225/60/15 or 245/50/15 to keep the speedo close and
achieve a 'look'. Of course we could be extreme and try fitting 275/40/17 or
315/35/17s but I doubt there's room!

> From my experience, I feel that the stock tire size is an excellent
> match to the Aerostar's suspension and engine torque curve for
> all-around driving.

Or in other words the engineers got something right!

> I think that the XW-4 was a good OEM match for the vehicle in
> terms of tire spring rate to vehicle spring rate (boy, I've never seen
> this quality mentioned before).

Very rarely!

> This exhausts what I can say about Aerostar tires. Hope this is useful.
> What do you think?
>
> Richard
>
> PS: I've been taking notice of the commercial Aerostars I've been seeing
> on the streets here in the East Bay and in San Francisco, where they're
> fairly common due to restricted-sized parking spaces. I'm kinda amazed
> by all the subtle variations in the commercial bodies: window placement,
> window sizes, back door types.

Just in the 93-94 series here's the variants:

Van:
1) 4900 GVW 119" WB 215/70 on 5.5 or 6JJ wheels
2) 5300 GVW 119" WB 215/75 on 6JJ wheels
3) 5020 GVW 119" WB 215/70 on 6JJ wheels Extended Van
4) 5300 GVW 119" WB 215/75 on 6JJ wheels Extended Van
5) 5340 GVW 119" WB 215/70 on 5.5 or 6JJ wheels AWD
6) 5340 GVW 119" WB 215/70 on 5.5 or 6JJ wheels Extended Van AWD

Wagon:
1) 4700 GVW 119" WB 215/70 on 6JJ wheels 5 Passenger
2) 5000 GVW 119" WB 215/70 on 6JJ wheels 5 Passenger Extended Wagon
3) 4880 GVW 119" WB 215/70 on 5.5JJ wheels 7 Passenger
4) 5100 GVW 119" WB 215/70 on 5.5JJ wheels 7 Passenger
5) 5140 GVW 119" WB 215/70 on 5.5 or 6JJ wheels 7 Passenger
6) 5260 GVW 119" WB 215/75 on 6JJ wheels 7 Passenger Extended Wagon
7) 5320 GVW 119" WB 215/75 on 6JJ wheels 7 Passenger Extended Wagon
8) 4880 GVW 119" WB 215/70 on 5.5 or 6JJ wheels 5 Passenger Wagon AWD
9) 5380 GVW 119" WB 215/70 on 5.5 or 6JJ wheels 7 Passenger Wagon AWD
10) 5000 GVW 119" WB 215/70* on 5.5 or 6JJ 5 Passenger Extended Wagon AWD
11) 5200 GVW 119" WB 215/70* on 5.5 or 6JJ 7 Passenger Extended Wagon AWD
12) 5380 GVW 119" WB 215/70* on 5.5 or 6JJ 7 Passenger Extended Wagon AWD

* 215/75/14 optional and uses the 6JJ wheel
all use 35 PSI F/R

Wow.. 18 different Aerostar variations in '93-'94!

>
> I can get really fond of the Aerostar.
> Until it comes time to fix it, which is too often. Then the cursing
> begins and continues and continues.

For you AND the technician involved. ;-) As an interesting footnote there
was a 2.3L DIESEL Aerostar 5 Passenger offered in '85-'87. (195/75/14)

Told you it was a long boring list!

Tim

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Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 21:19:31 -0700
From: Mike or Kathy earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Maximum Aerostar tire size

> I've got the factory manuals for 91 and 95 Aerostars and the biggest tire listed for any type (cargo, passenger, AWD, etc.) of Aerostar is P215/75/14. Check with your local tire store, they probably have a better idea of what you will be able to stuff in the wheel well. Remember, if you increase tire size, your speedometer and odometer will read low. Your dealer should be able to set you up with the right speedometer drive gear to correct the odometer and speedometer.

Mike



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