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small-list Digest Tue, 11 Apr 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 047

In This Issue:
Tranny Mystery
Re: [Re: Replacing Spart Plugs]
Re: [Blinkers]
Re: [Re: Replacing Spark Plugs]
Re: [Blinkers]
Re: [Transmission mystery]
Re: [Shock reccomendations]
A4LD woes..
Frustrating Situation.. need comments/advice/ideas.

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From: "Chuck Anderson" hotmail.com>
Subject: Tranny Mystery
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 13:51:06 PDT

I had the same thing happen to me a couple of years ago. My transmission
did the exact same thing. It was the torque converter. I put a new
converter in and it was good as new. My orginal had about 140,000 miles
when it went bad. Another year later at 171,000 miles the front pump went
bad and ruined the torque converter. The rest of the transmission looked
good considering how burned the fluid was when the front pump went bad.

Replace the torque converter and hopefully it won't give you any more
trouble. Depending on the mileage though, a front pump replacement may not
be such a bad idea. A word of wisdom, removal of the front pump makes
necessary that the new pump be aligned with a special alignment tool. If
not aligned with the tool, the new pump will fail instantly.

Good luck, if you are considering a REMAN, send me an email, I have plenty
to say about REMANS too.

Chuck
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Date: 11 Apr 00 20:39:54 EDT
From: Tim Turner netscape.net>
Subject: Re: [Re: Replacing Spart Plugs]

Dan Wentz earthlink.net> wrote:

> Now if you want to see a real nasty spark plug job have a look at a 4.0 in
> an Explorer. I don't look forward to that one.

Actually I'd much rather do that one than the 2.3 8 plugger.. The Aerostar
used to be towards the bottom of my list but done enough to where that's not
so bad anymore. 4.3L Small Blazers are a pain and the distributor cap on the
V-8 Jeep yuppimobile is damn near impossible. On all of 'em the worst part is
getting the boots off without damage to it or the terminal end. (The
dielectric grease that comes with new wires is there for a reason!)

Tim

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Date: 11 Apr 00 21:04:37 EDT
From: Tim Turner netscape.net>
Subject: Re: [Blinkers]

J Cope <88biixlt fncool.com> wrote:

> The blinkers on my 88 BII aren't working...
> With no other lights on, nothing happens when I click the switch. With the
> lights on, whichever light is supposed to be blinking goes out.

Exactly which lights go out/on? For example does the indicator in the dash
light, but the front T/S dim and the rear T/S go out etc. (Looking for a poor
ground in the example.)

> I changed the flasher unit in the fuse box, and I changed the
> "flasher/directional" fuse, and still no blinkers.

Might want to check for power on one terminal of the flasher's socket to rule
out fusible link etc, possibly jump the terminals in the socket to see what
happens also.

> Oddly enough, my "hazard" lights work fine...

Not sure on the B-II if the Hazard & T/S use the same flasher unit; lots of
vehicles have separate units. Got bit by that this week... Friday a C-1500
comes in with no R blinker, use the haz to see what bulb(s) out, replace it
and send it out, Monday it's back with all T/S inop.. fuse blown but haz
works. Replace fuse and all 'seems' well; suspect the filament in the bulb
crossed when it went out and I hadn't checked the T/S . Tuesday it's
back AGAIN! Now the flasher unit is bad.. (solid state on this one and dealer
only.. another Great Mistake from GM.) Let the darn signals blink for 30
Minutes before I sent it out this time!

> Any suggestions...?

T/S switch itself? Rare but not unknown. Tilt wheels can also chafe the
wiring in the column if worn enough. Bulbs, flashers and poor ground
connections are the most common reasons though.


Tim


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Date: 11 Apr 00 21:24:54 EDT
From: Tim Turner netscape.net>
Subject: Re: [Re: Replacing Spark Plugs]

"Michael D. Sheridan" psnw.com> wrote:
>
> The answer to all the groping around and tearing off skin
> and bleeding and cursing is get a drill and nibbler and
> CUT OUT everything in your way and then replace the pieces
> you cut out with sheet stainless or teakwood, or who cares and
> some stainless sheet metal screws or through bolt the thing
> if you so desire.
>

I "hope" that was tongue in cheek advice but I've seen mechanics with the same
mindset. Seen a bunch of older Escorts with a torch/drill hole for the crank
bolt when 3 bolts would drop the nose of the engine... Personally knew someone
that totaled a 3 year old Ranger with a torch making 'clearance' for something
during a tranny removal. Got the carpet on fire from underneath and with the
windows being up (and him stoned) never knew it was burning inside the cab.
By the time it was noticed the interior was but a plastic puddle in the
floor-board. Try explaining THAT to a customer!! (that shop bought him
another truck BTW)

At the risk of going way OT I disagree with flat-rate pay for technicians;
invites this sort of short-cutting to inflate the pay check..

Tim

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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 21:24:50 -0400
From: J Cope <88biixlt fncool.com>
Subject: Re: [Blinkers]

---
Exactly which lights go out/on? For example does the indicator in the dash
light, but the front T/S dim and the rear T/S go out etc. (Looking for a
poor
ground in the example.)
---
With no lights on (headlight, parking, brake) absolutely nothing happens
when I click the switch. Same thing with the headlights or parking lights
on. When I step on the brakes and click the switch, the only thing that
happens is that the rear light that is supposed to be blinking goes out.
There is nothing in the dash, and the front lights apprear unaffected.

---
Might want to check for power on one terminal of the flasher's socket to
rule
out fusible link etc, possibly jump the terminals in the socket to see what
happens also.
---
Certainly something to try...

---
Not sure on the B-II if the Hazard & T/S use the same flasher unit; lots of
vehicles have separate units.
---
If anyone knows which is the case, that info would be greatly appreciated!

---
T/S switch itself? Rare but not unknown. Tilt wheels can also chafe the
wiring in the column if worn enough.
---
That's what I thought, but the rear lights go out when I click the switch,
so it's doing SOMETHING...

I'm going to poke around it some more later this week, and I'll post any
findings.
Of course, any more help is always appreciated!
Thanks!

JC
'88 BII XLT
10k tow hooks
40ch CB
K&N
Light bar
Headlight Stone Guards
30x9.5 BFG A/T TA KOs
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Date: 11 Apr 00 21:52:57 EDT
From: Tim Turner netscape.net>
Subject: Re: [Transmission mystery]

"Jim Shedlauskas" KandSEngineering.com> wrote:

> The automatic transmission in my '88 Bronco II died with a loud BANG! The
> motor still runs, but nothing happens in any gear, not even any unusual
> noises. Being the kind of person I am, and knowing nothing about
> automatics, the first thing I did was remove the trans and take it all
> apart. Oops. There's nothing broke in here! So, I have a few stupid
> questions I'm hoping someone can answer. Would the torque converter break
> in a way that would cause this kind of problem?

Some 12 years ago my old van (727 Mopar trans) was losing Low and Rev; rebuilt
it and tried to flush the converter. All went well but about a week later a
lound BANG at WOT during a 1-2 shift and no movement in any gear. Tore it
back down and saw no problem; new (reman) converter and it was still pulling
fine when I got disgusted with other problems and GAVE the van away.

I'd say if there was that much noise and no problem found internal to the
tranny then certainly go after the converter.

Tim

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Date: 11 Apr 00 22:02:54 EDT
From: Tim Turner netscape.net>
Subject: Re: [Shock reccomendations]

"Chris Oostveen" i2k.com> wrote:

> I have an 88 Ranger that has been lowered 3" frt & 4" rear. I need shocks
> for this thing really bad. Does anyone have any suggestions on shocks for
> lowered trucks? Thanks in advance.

I don't know the web address for Summit racing but the phone number ought to
be 800-230-3030; might want measurements from eye to eye to be sure of the
right shock for your application. They seem to be happy to supply parts for
trucks where the suspension has been tweaked in the wrong directon.

Tim

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From: "Stephen Bozzone" rockzone.com>
Subject: A4LD woes..
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 00:31:20 -0400

Chuck and others,

I would be interested in what you have to say about remans/rebuilds -- looks
like i'm gonna be in the market for one 105,000 miles on my 88 Bronco II..

In OD the entire car Shudders and rumbles violently, ocassionaly when i cold
it slips, and just recently it doesn't kickback a gear on hills.

This all happened about 300 miles after i dropped the pan, replaced the
gasket and filter, and put a few quarts back in.


Stephen Bozzone
Administrative Director - http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.rockzone.com
ICQ: 196843 / AIM: RudeSkam69
"Don't ask me to justify my life..." - Bad Religion

----- Original Message -----
From: Chuck Anderson hotmail.com>
To: ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 4:51 PM
Subject: [small-list] Tranny Mystery


> I had the same thing happen to me a couple of years ago. My transmission
> did the exact same thing. It was the torque converter. I put a new
> converter in and it was good as new. My orginal had about 140,000 miles
> when it went bad. Another year later at 171,000 miles the front pump went
> bad and ruined the torque converter. The rest of the transmission looked
> good considering how burned the fluid was when the front pump went bad.
>
> Replace the torque converter and hopefully it won't give you any more
> trouble. Depending on the mileage though, a front pump replacement may
not
> be such a bad idea. A word of wisdom, removal of the front pump makes
> necessary that the new pump be aligned with a special alignment tool. If
> not aligned with the tool, the new pump will fail instantly.
>
> Good luck, if you are considering a REMAN, send me an email, I have plenty
> to say about REMANS too.
>
> Chuck
> ______________________________________________________
> >
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From: "Stephen Bozzone" rockzone.com>
Subject: Frustrating Situation.. need comments/advice/ideas.
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 16:58:55 -0400

1988 Ford Bronco II Eddie Bauer 4x4 Auto transmission.
Here's the situation/story..

- Bought truck at 95,000 miles in May of 1999. Ticked occasionally.
- Overheated at around 98,000 miles. Clogged Thermostat.
- Tuned up the truck (plugs, wires, cap, rotor, pcv, air filter, belts,
fuel filter) at 103,000 miles.
- Changed transmission filter and gasket at 105,000. Fluid was BLACK. Was
told this was a bad sign.
- Switched to synthetic 10w-30 oil, noticed later that passenger side valve
cover is smoking.
- Constant white smoke from tailpipe for the past 3 months (cracked head or
head gasket I believe)
- Engine idles extremely rough, pulses and shudders (does this along with
the exhaust)
- Started to have problems with transmission soon after filter change,
would slip once when just pulling out of the driveway in the morning.
- Then a shudder/vibration that existed a few hundred miles before the
filter change became more prevalent, mostly in OD but occurs in other gears
around 2000RPM usually.
- Just recently, transmission doesn't shift down for hills, slips
constantly after stopping.
- Engine has ticked violently on and off for the past 6 months.

OK, so what I can see from this is, I need a new tranny, new heads - at the
least.
I'm 17 years old, have barely enough money for an unassembled head or two if
i'm lucky.
I have a steady job, summer is coming up so I expect to make more.

My question is to you, other than to comment on my problems..
Is it worth fixing this thing or should I cut my losses and go for another
used car.

It's a pretty frustrating situation, I'm quite distraught over it all.
I'm thinking of taking the truck to the tranny shop sometime this weekend.

I have no other means of transportation other than parent's cars which
aren't always available.

Sigh, i would hate to say goodbye to this baby but there's just so much to
do.

Thanks,

Stephen Bozzone
Administrative Director - http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.rockzone.com
ICQ: 196843 / AIM: RudeSkam69
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