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small-list Digest Mon, 10 Apr 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 045

In This Issue:
Re: timing/advance 302
Re: timing/advance 302
Re: timing/advance 302
Re: Oddball Ranger (was swaybars)
Re: Oddball Ranger (was swaybars)
Re: Oddball Ranger (was swaybars)
Re: Oddball Ranger (was swaybars)
Re: Oddball Ranger (was swaybars)
Re: Oddball Ranger (was swaybars)
Re: Oddball Ranger (was swaybars)
Re: Oddball Ranger (was swaybars)
Re: Oddball Ranger (was swaybars)
Re: Oddball Ranger (was swaybars)
Re: Oddball Ranger (was swaybars)
Re: Oddball Ranger (was swaybars)
Re: Oddball Ranger (was swaybars)
Re: Replacing Spark Plugs
Re: Oddball Ranger (was swaybars)
Re: Oddball Ranger (was swaybars)
93 Aerostar - change in gas mileage after complete batter
AW: 93 Aerostar - change in gas mileage after comple
Re: AW: 93 Aerostar - change in gas mileage after comple
Re: 93 Aerostar - change in gas mileage after

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Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 00:19:55 -0400
From: David Cooley bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: timing/advance 302

At 09:59 PM 4/9/00, you wrote:
>three questions. First i put my exhaust on temp. to get it to the muffler
>shop. have one full length exhaust running to the back with the muffler
>about 4 ft back. and one muffler is directly behind the headers about 18
>inches. both are 2.5" flowmasters. would this make the engine run rough
>like a cylinder may not be firing properly or something?
>
>i have an older 302, maybe mid or early 70's. Have an 86 T-Bird front
>assy. and drive access. on it. would the timing points from the T-Bird
>match right?
>
>last, does anyone know of a chart to look at and see what the advances
>should be at different RPM's on this engine?


If it's fuel injected, you have to disconnect a wire to see what timing
is... (I think it's the PIP)
The miss could be it's running lean... Need to disconnect the computer for
a few minutes to erase it's learned info... it will relearn the newer
breathing habits and idle will clean up etc.


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From: "Bad Brian" hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: timing/advance 302
Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 21:28:40 PDT



>>>three questions. First i put my exhaust on temp. to get it to the
>>muffler
>>shop. have one full length exhaust running to the back with the muffler
>>about 4 ft back. and one muffler is directly behind the headers about 18
>>inches. both are 2.5" flowmasters. would this make the engine run rough
>>like a cylinder may not be firing properly or something?
>>
>>i have an older 302, maybe mid or early 70's. Have an 86 T-Bird front
>>assy. and drive access. on it. would the timing points from the T-Bird
>>match right?
>>
>>last, does anyone know of a chart to look at and see what the advances
>>should be at different RPM's on this engine?
>

the engine is carb. not fuel injected
>

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Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 00:37:08 -0400
From: David Cooley bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: timing/advance 302

At 12:28 AM 4/10/00, you wrote:



>the engine is carb. not fuel injected


You'll need to re-adjust the idle mixture and may need to open up the jets
a size or two to compensate for the increased breathing.


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From: "Keith Christensen" kendra.com>
Subject: Re: Oddball Ranger (was swaybars)
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 21:38:50 -0700

From: "Jon,Jody" direct.ca>

>> *sidebar*
>> The 'funkfactor' involved in torching out all the stuff may be
more
> >than buying new.. burnt bushings, etc.

>If you are getting the whole assembly, don't bother with a torch.
grind
>or unbolt it as a unit.

You must deal with better wrecking yards than I do... asking them to
grind off rivets gets big blank stares!!

Oh yes, more on that 83 Ranger.. my father bought that new off the
lot that way. One other "goofy' item was the speedo gearing..

We lived in Montana and spent many years with no daytime speedlimit.
I always wondered why Dad never got a speeding ticket or warning
when he drove the Ranger . He should have at least gotten one or two
in the ten years he drove it, as I knew his driving style-- usually
10-15 over if conditions were OK.

The year after he passed away, I scored a set of 215R70's mounted on
Mopar 'pursuit car' rims, and they fit the Ranger better than my
Tojo pickup at the time. After putting them on, we did the
stopwatch/milemarker tests on a section of I5 that's marked as
"speedometer/odometer test" rated, and found the damned thing was
SPOT ON.. remember this thing CAME with 185-14's! There's got to be
at least 2" more radius with this combo, so I'm guessing that the
prior "60" was more like "53-54 mph".

This explains why Dad never got a ticket...

That same truck also has a factory tranny cooler ; looks like it was
maybe an experiment at building a trailer towing package, but the
build sheet doesn't show any of this. Sorry, I don't remember where
my brother found the build sheet, but I'm somewat guessing that it
was under the seat .




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From: "Keith Christensen" kendra.com>
Subject: Re: Oddball Ranger (was swaybars)
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 21:38:50 -0700

From: "Jon,Jody" direct.ca>

>> *sidebar*
>> The 'funkfactor' involved in torching out all the stuff may be
more
> >than buying new.. burnt bushings, etc.

>If you are getting the whole assembly, don't bother with a torch.
grind
>or unbolt it as a unit.

You must deal with better wrecking yards than I do... asking them to
grind off rivets gets big blank stares!!

Oh yes, more on that 83 Ranger.. my father bought that new off the
lot that way. One other "goofy' item was the speedo gearing..

We lived in Montana and spent many years with no daytime speedlimit.
I always wondered why Dad never got a speeding ticket or warning
when he drove the Ranger . He should have at least gotten one or two
in the ten years he drove it, as I knew his driving style-- usually
10-15 over if conditions were OK.

The year after he passed away, I scored a set of 215R70's mounted on
Mopar 'pursuit car' rims, and they fit the Ranger better than my
Tojo pickup at the time. After putting them on, we did the
stopwatch/milemarker tests on a section of I5 that's marked as
"speedometer/odometer test" rated, and found the damned thing was
SPOT ON.. remember this thing CAME with 185-14's! There's got to be
at least 2" more radius with this combo, so I'm guessing that the
prior "60" was more like "53-54 mph".

This explains why Dad never got a ticket...

That same truck also has a factory tranny cooler ; looks like it was
maybe an experiment at building a trailer towing package, but the
build sheet doesn't show any of this. Sorry, I don't remember where
my brother found the build sheet, but I'm somewat guessing that it
was under the seat .




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From: "Keith Christensen" kendra.com>
Subject: Re: Oddball Ranger (was swaybars)
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 21:38:50 -0700

From: "Jon,Jody" direct.ca>

>> *sidebar*
>> The 'funkfactor' involved in torching out all the stuff may be
more
> >than buying new.. burnt bushings, etc.

>If you are getting the whole assembly, don't bother with a torch.
grind
>or unbolt it as a unit.

You must deal with better wrecking yards than I do... asking them to
grind off rivets gets big blank stares!!

Oh yes, more on that 83 Ranger.. my father bought that new off the
lot that way. One other "goofy' item was the speedo gearing..

We lived in Montana and spent many years with no daytime speedlimit.
I always wondered why Dad never got a speeding ticket or warning
when he drove the Ranger . He should have at least gotten one or two
in the ten years he drove it, as I knew his driving style-- usually
10-15 over if conditions were OK.

The year after he passed away, I scored a set of 215R70's mounted on
Mopar 'pursuit car' rims, and they fit the Ranger better than my
Tojo pickup at the time. After putting them on, we did the
stopwatch/milemarker tests on a section of I5 that's marked as
"speedometer/odometer test" rated, and found the damned thing was
SPOT ON.. remember this thing CAME with 185-14's! There's got to be
at least 2" more radius with this combo, so I'm guessing that the
prior "60" was more like "53-54 mph".

This explains why Dad never got a ticket...

That same truck also has a factory tranny cooler ; looks like it was
maybe an experiment at building a trailer towing package, but the
build sheet doesn't show any of this. Sorry, I don't remember where
my brother found the build sheet, but I'm somewat guessing that it
was under the seat .




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From: "Keith Christensen" kendra.com>
Subject: Re: Oddball Ranger (was swaybars)
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 21:38:50 -0700

From: "Jon,Jody" direct.ca>

>> *sidebar*
>> The 'funkfactor' involved in torching out all the stuff may be
more
> >than buying new.. burnt bushings, etc.

>If you are getting the whole assembly, don't bother with a torch.
grind
>or unbolt it as a unit.

You must deal with better wrecking yards than I do... asking them to
grind off rivets gets big blank stares!!

Oh yes, more on that 83 Ranger.. my father bought that new off the
lot that way. One other "goofy' item was the speedo gearing..

We lived in Montana and spent many years with no daytime speedlimit.
I always wondered why Dad never got a speeding ticket or warning
when he drove the Ranger . He should have at least gotten one or two
in the ten years he drove it, as I knew his driving style-- usually
10-15 over if conditions were OK.

The year after he passed away, I scored a set of 215R70's mounted on
Mopar 'pursuit car' rims, and they fit the Ranger better than my
Tojo pickup at the time. After putting them on, we did the
stopwatch/milemarker tests on a section of I5 that's marked as
"speedometer/odometer test" rated, and found the damned thing was
SPOT ON.. remember this thing CAME with 185-14's! There's got to be
at least 2" more radius with this combo, so I'm guessing that the
prior "60" was more like "53-54 mph".

This explains why Dad never got a ticket...

That same truck also has a factory tranny cooler ; looks like it was
maybe an experiment at building a trailer towing package, but the
build sheet doesn't show any of this. Sorry, I don't remember where
my brother found the build sheet, but I'm somewat guessing that it
was under the seat .




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From: "Keith Christensen" kendra.com>
Subject: Re: Oddball Ranger (was swaybars)
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 21:38:50 -0700

From: "Jon,Jody" direct.ca>

>> *sidebar*
>> The 'funkfactor' involved in torching out all the stuff may be
more
> >than buying new.. burnt bushings, etc.

>If you are getting the whole assembly, don't bother with a torch.
grind
>or unbolt it as a unit.

You must deal with better wrecking yards than I do... asking them to
grind off rivets gets big blank stares!!

Oh yes, more on that 83 Ranger.. my father bought that new off the
lot that way. One other "goofy' item was the speedo gearing..

We lived in Montana and spent many years with no daytime speedlimit.
I always wondered why Dad never got a speeding ticket or warning
when he drove the Ranger . He should have at least gotten one or two
in the ten years he drove it, as I knew his driving style-- usually
10-15 over if conditions were OK.

The year after he passed away, I scored a set of 215R70's mounted on
Mopar 'pursuit car' rims, and they fit the Ranger better than my
Tojo pickup at the time. After putting them on, we did the
stopwatch/milemarker tests on a section of I5 that's marked as
"speedometer/odometer test" rated, and found the damned thing was
SPOT ON.. remember this thing CAME with 185-14's! There's got to be
at least 2" more radius with this combo, so I'm guessing that the
prior "60" was more like "53-54 mph".

This explains why Dad never got a ticket...

That same truck also has a factory tranny cooler ; looks like it was
maybe an experiment at building a trailer towing package, but the
build sheet doesn't show any of this. Sorry, I don't remember where
my brother found the build sheet, but I'm somewat guessing that it
was under the seat .




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------------------------------

From: "Keith Christensen" kendra.com>
Subject: Re: Oddball Ranger (was swaybars)
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 21:38:50 -0700

From: "Jon,Jody" direct.ca>

>> *sidebar*
>> The 'funkfactor' involved in torching out all the stuff may be
more
> >than buying new.. burnt bushings, etc.

>If you are getting the whole assembly, don't bother with a torch.
grind
>or unbolt it as a unit.

You must deal with better wrecking yards than I do... asking them to
grind off rivets gets big blank stares!!

Oh yes, more on that 83 Ranger.. my father bought that new off the
lot that way. One other "goofy' item was the speedo gearing..

We lived in Montana and spent many years with no daytime speedlimit.
I always wondered why Dad never got a speeding ticket or warning
when he drove the Ranger . He should have at least gotten one or two
in the ten years he drove it, as I knew his driving style-- usually
10-15 over if conditions were OK.

The year after he passed away, I scored a set of 215R70's mounted on
Mopar 'pursuit car' rims, and they fit the Ranger better than my
Tojo pickup at the time. After putting them on, we did the
stopwatch/milemarker tests on a section of I5 that's marked as
"speedometer/odometer test" rated, and found the damned thing was
SPOT ON.. remember this thing CAME with 185-14's! There's got to be
at least 2" more radius with this combo, so I'm guessing that the
prior "60" was more like "53-54 mph".

This explains why Dad never got a ticket...

That same truck also has a factory tranny cooler ; looks like it was
maybe an experiment at building a trailer towing package, but the
build sheet doesn't show any of this. Sorry, I don't remember where
my brother found the build sheet, but I'm somewat guessing that it
was under the seat .




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------------------------------

From: "Keith Christensen" kendra.com>
Subject: Re: Oddball Ranger (was swaybars)
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 21:38:50 -0700

From: "Jon,Jody" direct.ca>

>> *sidebar*
>> The 'funkfactor' involved in torching out all the stuff may be
more
> >than buying new.. burnt bushings, etc.

>If you are getting the whole assembly, don't bother with a torch.
grind
>or unbolt it as a unit.

You must deal with better wrecking yards than I do... asking them to
grind off rivets gets big blank stares!!

Oh yes, more on that 83 Ranger.. my father bought that new off the
lot that way. One other "goofy' item was the speedo gearing..

We lived in Montana and spent many years with no daytime speedlimit.
I always wondered why Dad never got a speeding ticket or warning
when he drove the Ranger . He should have at least gotten one or two
in the ten years he drove it, as I knew his driving style-- usually
10-15 over if conditions were OK.

The year after he passed away, I scored a set of 215R70's mounted on
Mopar 'pursuit car' rims, and they fit the Ranger better than my
Tojo pickup at the time. After putting them on, we did the
stopwatch/milemarker tests on a section of I5 that's marked as
"speedometer/odometer test" rated, and found the damned thing was
SPOT ON.. remember this thing CAME with 185-14's! There's got to be
at least 2" more radius with this combo, so I'm guessing that the
prior "60" was more like "53-54 mph".

This explains why Dad never got a ticket...

That same truck also has a factory tranny cooler ; looks like it was
maybe an experiment at building a trailer towing package, but the
build sheet doesn't show any of this. Sorry, I don't remember where
my brother found the build sheet, but I'm somewat guessing that it
was under the seat .




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------------------------------

From: "Keith Christensen" kendra.com>
Subject: Re: Oddball Ranger (was swaybars)
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 21:38:50 -0700

From: "Jon,Jody" direct.ca>

>> *sidebar*
>> The 'funkfactor' involved in torching out all the stuff may be
more
> >than buying new.. burnt bushings, etc.

>If you are getting the whole assembly, don't bother with a torch.
grind
>or unbolt it as a unit.

You must deal with better wrecking yards than I do... asking them to
grind off rivets gets big blank stares!!

Oh yes, more on that 83 Ranger.. my father bought that new off the
lot that way. One other "goofy' item was the speedo gearing..

We lived in Montana and spent many years with no daytime speedlimit.
I always wondered why Dad never got a speeding ticket or warning
when he drove the Ranger . He should have at least gotten one or two
in the ten years he drove it, as I knew his driving style-- usually
10-15 over if conditions were OK.

The year after he passed away, I scored a set of 215R70's mounted on
Mopar 'pursuit car' rims, and they fit the Ranger better than my
Tojo pickup at the time. After putting them on, we did the
stopwatch/milemarker tests on a section of I5 that's marked as
"speedometer/odometer test" rated, and found the damned thing was
SPOT ON.. remember this thing CAME with 185-14's! There's got to be
at least 2" more radius with this combo, so I'm guessing that the
prior "60" was more like "53-54 mph".

This explains why Dad never got a ticket...

That same truck also has a factory tranny cooler ; looks like it was
maybe an experiment at building a trailer towing package, but the
build sheet doesn't show any of this. Sorry, I don't remember where
my brother found the build sheet, but I'm somewat guessing that it
was under the seat .




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------------------------------

From: "Keith Christensen" kendra.com>
Subject: Re: Oddball Ranger (was swaybars)
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 21:38:50 -0700

From: "Jon,Jody" direct.ca>

>> *sidebar*
>> The 'funkfactor' involved in torching out all the stuff may be
more
> >than buying new.. burnt bushings, etc.

>If you are getting the whole assembly, don't bother with a torch.
grind
>or unbolt it as a unit.

You must deal with better wrecking yards than I do... asking them to
grind off rivets gets big blank stares!!

Oh yes, more on that 83 Ranger.. my father bought that new off the
lot that way. One other "goofy' item was the speedo gearing..

We lived in Montana and spent many years with no daytime speedlimit.
I always wondered why Dad never got a speeding ticket or warning
when he drove the Ranger . He should have at least gotten one or two
in the ten years he drove it, as I knew his driving style-- usually
10-15 over if conditions were OK.

The year after he passed away, I scored a set of 215R70's mounted on
Mopar 'pursuit car' rims, and they fit the Ranger better than my
Tojo pickup at the time. After putting them on, we did the
stopwatch/milemarker tests on a section of I5 that's marked as
"speedometer/odometer test" rated, and found the damned thing was
SPOT ON.. remember this thing CAME with 185-14's! There's got to be
at least 2" more radius with this combo, so I'm guessing that the
prior "60" was more like "53-54 mph".

This explains why Dad never got a ticket...

That same truck also has a factory tranny cooler ; looks like it was
maybe an experiment at building a trailer towing package, but the
build sheet doesn't show any of this. Sorry, I don't remember where
my brother found the build sheet, but I'm somewat guessing that it
was under the seat .




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------------------------------

From: "Keith Christensen" kendra.com>
Subject: Re: Oddball Ranger (was swaybars)
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 21:38:50 -0700

From: "Jon,Jody" direct.ca>

>> *sidebar*
>> The 'funkfactor' involved in torching out all the stuff may be
more
> >than buying new.. burnt bushings, etc.

>If you are getting the whole assembly, don't bother with a torch.
grind
>or unbolt it as a unit.

You must deal with better wrecking yards than I do... asking them to
grind off rivets gets big blank stares!!

Oh yes, more on that 83 Ranger.. my father bought that new off the
lot that way. One other "goofy' item was the speedo gearing..

We lived in Montana and spent many years with no daytime speedlimit.
I always wondered why Dad never got a speeding ticket or warning
when he drove the Ranger . He should have at least gotten one or two
in the ten years he drove it, as I knew his driving style-- usually
10-15 over if conditions were OK.

The year after he passed away, I scored a set of 215R70's mounted on
Mopar 'pursuit car' rims, and they fit the Ranger better than my
Tojo pickup at the time. After putting them on, we did the
stopwatch/milemarker tests on a section of I5 that's marked as
"speedometer/odometer test" rated, and found the damned thing was
SPOT ON.. remember this thing CAME with 185-14's! There's got to be
at least 2" more radius with this combo, so I'm guessing that the
prior "60" was more like "53-54 mph".

This explains why Dad never got a ticket...

That same truck also has a factory tranny cooler ; looks like it was
maybe an experiment at building a trailer towing package, but the
build sheet doesn't show any of this. Sorry, I don't remember where
my brother found the build sheet, but I'm somewat guessing that it
was under the seat .




~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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------------------------------

From: "Keith Christensen" kendra.com>
Subject: Re: Oddball Ranger (was swaybars)
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 21:38:50 -0700

From: "Jon,Jody" direct.ca>

>> *sidebar*
>> The 'funkfactor' involved in torching out all the stuff may be
more
> >than buying new.. burnt bushings, etc.

>If you are getting the whole assembly, don't bother with a torch.
grind
>or unbolt it as a unit.

You must deal with better wrecking yards than I do... asking them to
grind off rivets gets big blank stares!!

Oh yes, more on that 83 Ranger.. my father bought that new off the
lot that way. One other "goofy' item was the speedo gearing..

We lived in Montana and spent many years with no daytime speedlimit.
I always wondered why Dad never got a speeding ticket or warning
when he drove the Ranger . He should have at least gotten one or two
in the ten years he drove it, as I knew his driving style-- usually
10-15 over if conditions were OK.

The year after he passed away, I scored a set of 215R70's mounted on
Mopar 'pursuit car' rims, and they fit the Ranger better than my
Tojo pickup at the time. After putting them on, we did the
stopwatch/milemarker tests on a section of I5 that's marked as
"speedometer/odometer test" rated, and found the damned thing was
SPOT ON.. remember this thing CAME with 185-14's! There's got to be
at least 2" more radius with this combo, so I'm guessing that the
prior "60" was more like "53-54 mph".

This explains why Dad never got a ticket...

That same truck also has a factory tranny cooler ; looks like it was
maybe an experiment at building a trailer towing package, but the
build sheet doesn't show any of this. Sorry, I don't remember where
my brother found the build sheet, but I'm somewat guessing that it
was under the seat .




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From: "Keith Christensen" kendra.com>
Subject: Re: Oddball Ranger (was swaybars)
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 21:38:50 -0700

From: "Jon,Jody" direct.ca>

>> *sidebar*
>> The 'funkfactor' involved in torching out all the stuff may be
more
> >than buying new.. burnt bushings, etc.

>If you are getting the whole assembly, don't bother with a torch.
grind
>or unbolt it as a unit.

You must deal with better wrecking yards than I do... asking them to
grind off rivets gets big blank stares!!

Oh yes, more on that 83 Ranger.. my father bought that new off the
lot that way. One other "goofy' item was the speedo gearing..

We lived in Montana and spent many years with no daytime speedlimit.
I always wondered why Dad never got a speeding ticket or warning
when he drove the Ranger . He should have at least gotten one or two
in the ten years he drove it, as I knew his driving style-- usually
10-15 over if conditions were OK.

The year after he passed away, I scored a set of 215R70's mounted on
Mopar 'pursuit car' rims, and they fit the Ranger better than my
Tojo pickup at the time. After putting them on, we did the
stopwatch/milemarker tests on a section of I5 that's marked as
"speedometer/odometer test" rated, and found the damned thing was
SPOT ON.. remember this thing CAME with 185-14's! There's got to be
at least 2" more radius with this combo, so I'm guessing that the
prior "60" was more like "53-54 mph".

This explains why Dad never got a ticket...

That same truck also has a factory tranny cooler ; looks like it was
maybe an experiment at building a trailer towing package, but the
build sheet doesn't show any of this. Sorry, I don't remember where
my brother found the build sheet, but I'm somewat guessing that it
was under the seat .




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From: "Keith Christensen" kendra.com>
Subject: Re: Oddball Ranger (was swaybars)
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 21:38:50 -0700

From: "Jon,Jody" direct.ca>

>> *sidebar*
>> The 'funkfactor' involved in torching out all the stuff may be
more
> >than buying new.. burnt bushings, etc.

>If you are getting the whole assembly, don't bother with a torch.
grind
>or unbolt it as a unit.

You must deal with better wrecking yards than I do... asking them to
grind off rivets gets big blank stares!!

Oh yes, more on that 83 Ranger.. my father bought that new off the
lot that way. One other "goofy' item was the speedo gearing..

We lived in Montana and spent many years with no daytime speedlimit.
I always wondered why Dad never got a speeding ticket or warning
when he drove the Ranger . He should have at least gotten one or two
in the ten years he drove it, as I knew his driving style-- usually
10-15 over if conditions were OK.

The year after he passed away, I scored a set of 215R70's mounted on
Mopar 'pursuit car' rims, and they fit the Ranger better than my
Tojo pickup at the time. After putting them on, we did the
stopwatch/milemarker tests on a section of I5 that's marked as
"speedometer/odometer test" rated, and found the damned thing was
SPOT ON.. remember this thing CAME with 185-14's! There's got to be
at least 2" more radius with this combo, so I'm guessing that the
prior "60" was more like "53-54 mph".

This explains why Dad never got a ticket...

That same truck also has a factory tranny cooler ; looks like it was
maybe an experiment at building a trailer towing package, but the
build sheet doesn't show any of this. Sorry, I don't remember where
my brother found the build sheet, but I'm somewat guessing that it
was under the seat .




~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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(Courtesy of Seattle Times)



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Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 22:51:45 -0700
From: Dan Wentz earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Replacing Spark Plugs


>It's a good thing the car is going in the shop next week to have
>head/intake/valve gaskets replaced because a couple of the plugs had heavy
>corrosion on them. It's a wonder to me the car was even running at all with
>the trash on them. I am also going to guess that this is why I've only been
>averaging 250-275 miles per tank.

What kind of mileage do you usually get? That doesn't sound too bad to me
if you've got the same 17.5 gallon tank I have. My first tank in the
new(ish) Explorer took me about 270 miles (with a 15 gallon fill up after
that). It came out to 17.1 MPG, which I didn't think was bad for a V6
running on 90% street with crappy California gas & driven by ME.

~Dan

1950 F1 351C--Nobody took it. April Fools!
1998 Explorer--75k mile warranty--something BETTER break!

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From: "Keith Christensen" kendra.com>
Subject: Re: Oddball Ranger (was swaybars)
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 21:38:50 -0700

From: "Jon,Jody" direct.ca>

>> *sidebar*
>> The 'funkfactor' involved in torching out all the stuff may be
more
> >than buying new.. burnt bushings, etc.

>If you are getting the whole assembly, don't bother with a torch.
grind
>or unbolt it as a unit.

You must deal with better wrecking yards than I do... asking them to
grind off rivets gets big blank stares!!

Oh yes, more on that 83 Ranger.. my father bought that new off the
lot that way. One other "goofy' item was the speedo gearing..

We lived in Montana and spent many years with no daytime speedlimit.
I always wondered why Dad never got a speeding ticket or warning
when he drove the Ranger . He should have at least gotten one or two
in the ten years he drove it, as I knew his driving style-- usually
10-15 over if conditions were OK.

The year after he passed away, I scored a set of 215R70's mounted on
Mopar 'pursuit car' rims, and they fit the Ranger better than my
Tojo pickup at the time. After putting them on, we did the
stopwatch/milemarker tests on a section of I5 that's marked as
"speedometer/odometer test" rated, and found the damned thing was
SPOT ON.. remember this thing CAME with 185-14's! There's got to be
at least 2" more radius with this combo, so I'm guessing that the
prior "60" was more like "53-54 mph".

This explains why Dad never got a ticket...

That same truck also has a factory tranny cooler ; looks like it was
maybe an experiment at building a trailer towing package, but the
build sheet doesn't show any of this. Sorry, I don't remember where
my brother found the build sheet, but I'm somewat guessing that it
was under the seat .




~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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(Courtesy of Seattle Times)



------------------------------

Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 02:02:21 -0400
From: David Cooley bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Oddball Ranger (was swaybars)

Now this is getting ridiculous...
This makes 15 times you've posted this to the list.



At 12:38 AM 4/10/00, you wrote:
>From: "Jon,Jody" direct.ca>
>
> >> *sidebar*
> >> The 'funkfactor' involved in torching out all the stuff may be
>more
> > >than buying new.. burnt bushings, etc.
>
> >If you are getting the whole assembly, don't bother with a torch.
>grind
> >or unbolt it as a unit.
>
>You must deal with better wrecking yards than I do... asking them to
>grind off rivets gets big blank stares!!
>
>Oh yes, more on that 83 Ranger.. my father bought that new off the
>lot that way. One other "goofy' item was the speedo gearing..
>
>We lived in Montana and spent many years with no daytime speedlimit.
>I always wondered why Dad never got a speeding ticket or warning
>when he drove the Ranger . He should have at least gotten one or two
>in the ten years he drove it, as I knew his driving style-- usually
>10-15 over if conditions were OK.
>
>The year after he passed away, I scored a set of 215R70's mounted on
>Mopar 'pursuit car' rims, and they fit the Ranger better than my
>Tojo pickup at the time. After putting them on, we did the
>stopwatch/milemarker tests on a section of I5 that's marked as
>"speedometer/odometer test" rated, and found the damned thing was
>SPOT ON.. remember this thing CAME with 185-14's! There's got to be
>at least 2" more radius with this combo, so I'm guessing that the
>prior "60" was more like "53-54 mph".
>
>This explains why Dad never got a ticket...
>
>That same truck also has a factory tranny cooler ; looks like it was
>maybe an experiment at building a trailer towing package, but the
>build sheet doesn't show any of this. Sorry, I don't remember where
>my brother found the build sheet, but I'm somewat guessing that it
>was under the seat .
>
>
>
>
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>(Courtesy of Seattle Times)
>
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From: "Frank Bures" chem.toronto.edu>
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 08:15:29 -0500 (EST)
Subject: 93 Aerostar - change in gas mileage after complete batter

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Hi,

the subject almost says it all.

My courtesy lights delay block went crazy, decided the turn on the inside
lights when the car was parked in my garage and completely discharged the
battery.
I got rid of the courtesy light control block, charged the battery again,
but now I am experiencing decreased gas mileage - around 20% worse than
before.

Is there anything I should do to get my old mileage back?

Thanks


Frank Bures, Dept. of Chemistry, University of Toronto, M5S 3H6
fbures chem.toronto.edu
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://frank.chem.utoronto.ca/electronics
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From: ThomasUcen premiereworld.de
Subject: AW: 93 Aerostar - change in gas mileage after comple
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 14:43:16 +0200

Hi,

where can I find the courtesy light delay block? This thing is p....g me
off. Every time I leave the car for the night I wait until the lights go
off. I also don't like the idea that anyone can turn on the interior lights
just by pulling a front door handle. Is that also controlled by the lights
delay block?
To your problem: I had my battery discharged twice since I have the car but
I have not not experienced any significant changes in gas mileage. I
understand though, that no power to the system means a reset to the
computer. The computer "learns" again when restoring the system and driving
for a certain amount of mileage.

Tom
1993 Aerostar 3.0L Ext.
Munich, Germany



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Von: Frank Bures [mailto:fbures chem.toronto.edu]
Gesendet am: Montag, 10. April 2000 15:15
An: small-list ford-trucks.com
Betreff: [small-list] 93 Aerostar - change in gas mileage after complete
battery discharge

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

Hi,

the subject almost says it all.

My courtesy lights delay block went crazy, decided the turn on the inside
lights when the car was parked in my garage and completely discharged the
battery.
I got rid of the courtesy light control block, charged the battery again,
but now I am experiencing decreased gas mileage - around 20% worse than
before.

Is there anything I should do to get my old mileage back?

Thanks


------------------------------

From: "Frank Bures" chem.toronto.edu>
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 09:45:40 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: AW: 93 Aerostar - change in gas mileage after comple

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On Mon, 10 Apr 2000 14:43:16 +0200, ThomasUcen premiereworld.de wrote:

>Hi,
>
>where can I find the courtesy light delay block? This thing is p....g me
>off. Every time I leave the car for the night I wait until the lights go
>off. I also don't like the idea that anyone can turn on the interior lights
>just by pulling a front door handle. Is that also controlled by the lights
>delay block?

It is attached to the rear driver side door pillar. Unfortunately you have
to disassemble half of the car to gain an access to it :-(


Frank Bures, Dept. of Chemistry, University of Toronto, M5S 3H6
fbures chem.toronto.edu
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://frank.chem.utoronto.ca/electronics
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