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small-list Digest Sun, 02 Apr 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 039

In This Issue:
Re: diesel ranger
Re: RE : Diesel Rangers.. Yup they DO exist
Diesel Rangers
after market stripes, the diesel thing and clutch
Parts advice
Re: RE : Diesel Rangers.. Yup they DO exist
Re: RE : Diesel Rangers.. Yup they DO exist

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From: "mikah vosekuil" hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: diesel ranger
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 17:15:28 PDT


i've seen a few diesel rangers around but only 2wd. was there ever a 4wd
diesel?

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From: Jckarkka aol.com
Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 21:52:49 EDT
Subject: Re: RE : Diesel Rangers.. Yup they DO exist

In a message dated 4/1/2000 11:12:05 PM Central Daylight Time,
radiopro kendra.com writes:

<< Supposedly, Ford offered a Brazilian Ford 2.0 L turbo'ed diesel in
Rangers and B II's in the '85-'88 time frame, but never have seen o
ne! There's supposed to be about 5 thousand of these engines in som
e abandoned warehouse in Brazil, all because some pointy-haired-bast
ard manager at US Ford pooh-poo'ed the idea. (but this may just be a
n "advanced urban legend")
>>
Actually, Ford still offers a small (somewhere around 2 or 2.5 liter)
turbodiesel in the Ranger in South America. The engine is an inline 4 built
by Maxion in Brazil. The trucks are assembled in Argentina.
In case you are interested, Maxion is now 50% owned by Navistar (now
International Truck and Engine Co.), the same people who make the Powerstroke.

I've driven the Ranger with this powerplant, and, although interesting, it
doesn't have the NVH characteristics necessary to be commercially viable (in
my opinion) in this country. Emission compliance would be an issue also.

The warehouse legend may refer to the left over (I remember them being
Mitsubishi engines, but fifteen or so years is a long time) engines from the
US produced Rangers of the early 80's. I would consider this powertrain a
failure, especially in contrast to the 6.9 and 7.3 L International engines
offered in the F250 and F350 of the same vintage. Ford couldn't give the
diesel Rangers away, but sold hundreds of thousands of 6.9 and, later 7.3s.
I guess consumers like power.

Alan K.


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From: "Jim Smith" bytedesigns.com>
Subject: Diesel Rangers
Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 20:44:55 -0700

Richard (rgsteinpacbell.net) writes:
>Cough, retch, phew!, gakkk, blecccchhhhh!!!
>I was just driving behind a small diesel vehicle.

there's a wonderful technique available with the
diesel Ranger to deal with people thinking that
driving 2 feet off your rear bumper will speed you
up the hill ... put the accelerator pedal to the floor ...
no more acceleration, but a wondrous cloud of
diesel smoke ... works every time!! :-)




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From: "Travis Johnson" hotmail.com>
Subject: after market stripes, the diesel thing and clutch
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 22:54:10 MDT

Well I'm finally getting to paint my truck at the Applied Technology Center
where I go to school for part of the day. I was wondering if anybody here
knows of any place where I can get aftermarket, oe looking decals to replace
the stripes on my truck. It's an '87 Ranger STX. The Estimating books show
$241 for the stripes, which is more money than I want to spend just for
stripes.

About the diesel thing, a little off subject but I'll bet none of you have
ever heard of an '84 escort with a 2.0L diesel, it's what I'm driving while
my truck's in the shop. Supposedly it's the only one running in our area
(northern Utah). A lot of parts are very hard to find.

My Brother's trying to replace the transmission in his '86 B-II (still).
Could anybody explain how to disconnect the hydraulic clutch line?


Travis Johnson
Flatheadv8


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Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 22:31:26 -0700 (PDT)
From: Renate Pitrof yahoo.com>
Subject: Parts advice

I'm looking into buying headers and exhaust for my '99 Ranger.
I've got the 4.0 V6 engine and it's a 4X4. I'm looking for
products that improve performance as well as fuel economy if
possible. Any and all suggestions would be helpful. Thanks!
Renate
'99 Ranger SC 4X4

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From: "Stephen Bozzone" rockzone.com>
Subject: Re: RE : Diesel Rangers.. Yup they DO exist
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 01:58:59 -0400

Is this why large trucks run diesel engines? Just curious.

Stephen Bozzone
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----- Original Message -----
From: Keith Christensen kendra.com>
To: ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2000 12:14 AM
Subject: [small-list] RE : Diesel Rangers.. Yup they DO exist


> They DEFINITELY made a 2.0 liter version (normally aspirated) in '83
> , as I park my B II behind one at work. I know the owner, and he's h
> appy with it, but he's 'diesel literate' and knows the lack of speed
> when passing! He gets 22-34 MPG!
>
> Supposedly, Ford offered a Brazilian Ford 2.0 L turbo'ed diesel in
> Rangers and B II's in the '85-'88 time frame, but never have seen o
> ne! There's supposed to be about 5 thousand of these engines in som
> e abandoned warehouse in Brazil, all because some pointy-haired-bast
> ard manager at US Ford pooh-poo'ed the idea. (but this may just be a
> n "advanced urban legend")
>
> Trust me, I'd love to have one of the turbo'ed versions, especially
> with the skyrocketing gas prices!
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 21:32:35 -0700
From: Adam McLaughlin jps.net>
Subject: Re: RE : Diesel Rangers.. Yup they DO exist

No way man!

It's all because of the torque. The deisel motors produce so much torque
through their high compression ratio. Take one up a steep hill (Like Cobb
mountain over here) and they kick gas on almost everything except for my
little BII. Torque is great, but HP is a little low. Add ons like turbos
and propane injection are great for the kick in the seat.

Heck, I even know a local ham who runs his 350 strickly on propane. It's
cool.

Adam

Stephen Bozzone wrote:

> Is this why large trucks run diesel engines? Just curious.
>
> Stephen Bozzone
> Administrative Director - http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.rockzone.com
> ICQ: 196843 / AIM: RudeSkam69
> "Don't ask me to justify my life..." - Bad Religion
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Keith Christensen kendra.com>
> To: ford-trucks.com>
> Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2000 12:14 AM
> Subject: [small-list] RE : Diesel Rangers.. Yup they DO exist
>
> > They DEFINITELY made a 2.0 liter version (normally aspirated) in '83
> > , as I park my B II behind one at work. I know the owner, and he's h
> > appy with it, but he's 'diesel literate' and knows the lack of speed
> > when passing! He gets 22-34 MPG!
> >
> > Supposedly, Ford offered a Brazilian Ford 2.0 L turbo'ed diesel in
> > Rangers and B II's in the '85-'88 time frame, but never have seen o
> > ne! There's supposed to be about 5 thousand of these engines in som
> > e abandoned warehouse in Brazil, all because some pointy-haired-bast
> > ard manager at US Ford pooh-poo'ed the idea. (but this may just be a
> > n "advanced urban legend")
> >
> > Trust me, I'd love to have one of the turbo'ed versions, especially
> > with the skyrocketing gas prices!
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > *Spam Unwelcome Here*
> > Don't believe me?? Want to see what
> > can show up in front of YOUR place?
> > Check out lower left photo at:
> > http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.robertstech.com/gallery/page13.htm
> > (Courtesy of Seattle Times)
> >
> >
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