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small-list Digest Sat, 11 Mar 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 028

In This Issue:
Re: '89 BII Heater Core Replacement
Update 2- [Re: Update.. Re: My turn.. 88 B II with interm
ADMIN: Message boards have been upgraded.
Re: Man, I am the target
Re: Spark plug thread
Re: Man, I am the target
15.1 MPG!
Re: 15.1 MPG!
Re: [15.1 MPG!]
Re: 15.1 MPG!
Re: Spark plug thread
97 5.0L Explorer
Re: 97 5.0L Explorer
Ford Escape
add on board air

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From: "mikah vosekuil" hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: '89 BII Heater Core Replacement
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 22:39:08 PST

it is real easy. it took me 20 min to replace mine. it would be a good
idea to drain the old coolant if it hasn't been done in a while. i didn't
when the core blew out on my ranger because i had just flushed the system
less than 200 miles before. if your not going to drain it pinch off the
heater hoses, take off the access panel, and remove the core. it's a good
idea to lay a garbage bag or plastic sheet on the floor to catch any coolant
leaking out. when you install the new core use new hose clamps. you
probably will have to break the old ones to get them off anyway, and it's
real cheap insurance. it will be easier to do if your truck is cold, and
take off the radiator cap before you start just incase there still a little
pressure in the system.

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>Subject: [small-list] '89 BII Heater Core Replacement
>Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 00:22:05 -0500
>
>How difficult is this?
>
>Two different manuals say to drain the system, remove the heater hoses,
>remove the access panel in the cab, and remove the core. Sounds really
>easy. The pictures show a small access panel being just below the glovebox.
>In my truck, the only thing visible beneath the glovebox is a fabric
>covered panel that extends from the transmission hump to the passenger
>door. Is the access panel maybe behind this? I'm kind of short on time and
>am hoping to get this done this weekend if it's as easy as the manuals say.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Burnett
>'89 Bronco II
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From: "Keith Christensen" kendra.com>
Subject: Update 2- [Re: Update.. Re: My turn.. 88 B II with interm
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 22:58:48 -0800

Tim and all..

I haven't gone back to the "indie' shop yet to tell them that the
O2/EGO/HEGO sensor they sold me was bad yet. Part of it is that they did
try, and the tech looks only 20-25 years old and still learning. He
"freebied" the day's labor and sold me the sensor at cost, so I can't feel
screwed on this deal. Unfortunately, the Ford shop threw away the bad one,
so neither the poor 'young kid" nor me can get the moeney back!

The exhaust replacement didn't turn out quite as well as expected.. one of
the "rotary flu" bugs hit the exhaust shop folks and they were backed up so
bad that I took a stock 'prebend' exhaust pipe w/resonator, but it was also
listed for the 2 dr 91 Explorer/Navaho 3.0L "with notes' . This got me 2.25"
pipe rather than the 2.00" .

Whatever the Ford and 'indie' shop said, the catalytic converter was hosed.
How much of the pluging was caused by the last two weeks of "super-rich" is
anybody's guess, but the rear screen was about 95% "rocked and coked" up.

Right now, the 'puter is in mass 'relearn' mode, but driveability is 300%
better, and I'm noticing rar better low throttle response. Small hills that
took 3/4 to full throttle now take less than 1/4 throttle. This is better
than this rig has been since i bought it 3 years ago!


I'm only 130 miles into the first full tank of gas (plus I've got the usual
funky B II /Ranger tank sendor), so i can't tell whether I've gotten ALL the
FI/etc problems taken care of yet..

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Date: 10 Mar 00 21:46:12 EST
From: Tim Turner netscape.net>
Subject: Re: [Re: Update.. Re: My turn.. 88 B II with intermittent

David Cooley bellsouth.net> wrote:
> At 10:50 PM 3/7/00, you wrote:
>
> >The "indie" shop replaced the O2 sensor . The Ford shop replaced the EGO

> >sensor . I'm curious here; is this the SAME part, but just different
> >buzzwords?? (If it is, somebody's gonna get an earful)
>
>
> same part. Oxygen sensor is an Exhaust Gas Oxygen sensor
>

Ditto.. Also known as HEGO (heated EGO incorporating a heating device to
bring the sensor up to operating temp. quicker) and now standardized by
OBD-II
to O2S of which there are many on the (OBD-II) vehicle.

Tim


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Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 01:56:30 -0500
From: Ken Payne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: ADMIN: Message boards have been upgraded.

The message board software has been upgraded. Check it
out! It has many new features, including the ability
to integrate with mailing lists, rating topics, email
topics to a friend, sorting, printer friendly output
and more.

Once I figure out how to guard email addresses, the
mailing lists will cross-post to the message boards
and visa-versa. Azie will finally have access to the
web site, though in an indirect way!

Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
PS - I'm still working on web mail, I found a bug in
the setup that will be addressed this weekend.



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Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 01:31:44 +0000
From: Tim Curran gte.net>
Subject: Re: Man, I am the target

To date I've been hit exactly ten times in my '88 Ranger XLT, and I'm
only 21.

1 - Rearended by a University of Iowa Cambus (Transit bus), no actual
damage, couple idiots on the bus screamed whip lash, whatever...
2 - Rearended by a '93 Taurus, her bumper sucked under mine, chrome won
over plastic (go figure), lots of shavings hit the ground.
3 - Hit in the drivers side rear bedside by a '80 something Econovan
(had the bumper replaced and box painted on that deal)
4 - Got hit in the front passenger side tire by a Red '94 Caravan that
ran a Red light, no damage to me, scuffed the hell out of their plastic
bumper.
5 - Had my windshield shattered by a water balloon that was thrown from
a on coming car, I was doing 60ish and they had to be doing at least
65.... new windshield and I had to cough up $100 deductible
6 - Got hit in the drivers side fender by a WWII Willy Jeep in low
range, pushed the front of the truck 7" off the side of the road,
replaced the fender on that deal, $40 junk yard special that matched!
7 - Got rearended by an Eagle delivery van (kind of like the big Snap-on
or Mac trucks, nice steel bumper), compacted my bumper on the drivers
side, had to replace two nuts and bolts, I think the bill was $1.50...
kind of peeved when they didn't send me a check.
8 - Wiped out on Interstate 80, it had been raining for days, came up
over a hill and traffic was at a dead stop, started to hydroplane so I
let off the brakes before rearending someone and hit the median, locked them
back up and did a complete 180, mud flying everywhere, finally coming
coming to a stop on the shoulder of the opposite lanes of the interstate...... felt like
Richard Petty for a few days....... then replaced all four tires......
no actual damage but it made for a good story at the shop the
following Monday!
9 - Had some schmuck roll back in to me at a stop light, he swears he
had his parking brake on, actually had the nerve to ask me if I had
rearended him, shows how well he was paying attention.... his hitch
destroyed one of my driving/fog lights, swapped names and addresses and
I will admit that he seemed to take off rather fast when the light went
green, that's when I noticed the lack of a license plate on the back of
his Honda..... I replaced my lights, $35.00, turns out he gave me false
name and address..... ALWAYS ASK TO SEE THERE LICENSE as I've
learned....... of course this wasn't necessary in #10...
10 - Got rearended by an off duty County Sheriff! My favorite.... as soon
as I learned this tid bit I quickly scurried to the cab of the truck to turn
my SCANNER down! Before I knew it we had two other Deputies
(lighting effects included) sitting next to us (in front of our shop mite I add)
and boy did he get heckled. He got off pretty easy in the end as we left
the insurance out of it (my idea) and I gave him my bill totaling $37.50....
this fixed my bent under aftermarket bumper and step bars.... the front end
of his Aerostar was pretty cracked up..............

I guess the kicker part is that if you where to look at my truck you'd
never guess it were in a single accident. I like older Fords! Like I say,
parts are readily available!

Keep a list going Adam, maybe you'll be lucky some day and get rearended
by a Porsche, that's what I'm waiting for.

Tim




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From: "Mike Haight" home.com>
Subject: Re: Spark plug thread
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 05:18:31 -0500

Another plug that did not hang around long was called FIRE INJECTORS.
I used/put these in my 75 Jeep/CJ5 back in 1976-1981 and were still
running great when I got rid of the jeep. They did not have any
protruding electrode. It was one large firing into the chamber. They
worked great for me back then. Does anyone remember them and know
what happened to them (why their demise)?

Thank You.
Take Care and Have a Good Day.
CUL8R, Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Turner" netscape.net>
>
> > > You will *NEVER* get 2 sparks jumping to both ground
> > >electrodes at the same time.
> Quite correct.. the energy required to start the spark is around
7-10 KV at
> idle, but the energy to maintain the spark is more like 1-3 KV.
Voltage is
> 'lazy' and will always follow the path of least resistance so it's
NOT going
> to jump to one electrode and then the other during the same firing
event.
>
> Do I spend extra $$ for premium plugs on my vehicles or Kim's? Hell
No! >
> I'm surprised nobody made any comments on the wires involved in this
thread...
> This post is long enough already so I leave it to others to expound
on that.
>
> Tim
>
>


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From: "Mike Haight" home.com>
Subject: Re: Man, I am the target
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 05:23:59 -0500

Guys like you and Adam should send out your daily itinerary on this NG
so that the rest of us can stay out of your way!


----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Curran" gte.net>
Subject: [small-list] Re: Man, I am the target


> To date I've been hit exactly ten times in my '88 Ranger XLT, and
I'm
> only 21.
>
> I guess the kicker part is that if you where to look at my truck
you'd
> never guess it were in a single accident. I like older Fords! Like I
say,
> parts are readily available!
>
> Keep a list going Adam, maybe you'll be lucky some day and get
rearended
> by a Porsche, that's what I'm waiting for.
>
> Tim
>



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Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 11:07:01 -0800
From: Adam McLaughlin jps.net>
Subject: 15.1 MPG!

Alright! I got 15.1 MPG! Awesome!

I had just had the gears changed in the differentials, and this made the
biggest difference. I switched from 3.45 to 4.11s. My gas milage went
from 12.5 MPG to 15.1 MPG with the 4.11s! Awesome!

This is with all city driving too.

I am running a 1988 bronco 2, with 3" Suspension Lift, 2" Body Lift and
31" tires. Posi front and detroit rear.

The motor is basically stock except for JBA Headers, flowmaster exhaust,
ADS Super Injectors, MSD Ignition, James Duff superchip, 12 degree
timing, premium gas, synthetic oil, manual transmission, electric fan,
4.0L radiator, etc. etc.

Now, If only there was someone out there who knew the stock A/C system
well enough to help me convert my A/C pump to an air compressor....

Adam


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From: "Joe Merchak" eclipse.net>
Subject: Re: 15.1 MPG!
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 16:55:34 -0500

I would like someone to explain how his gas went up. I have a 99 Ranger
with 4.10 rears and my gas mileage sucks compared to my friends who has 3
something rears (not sure which one).

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Subject: [small-list] 15.1 MPG!


Alright! I got 15.1 MPG! Awesome!

I had just had the gears changed in the differentials, and this made the
biggest difference. I switched from 3.45 to 4.11s. My gas milage went
from 12.5 MPG to 15.1 MPG with the 4.11s! Awesome!

This is with all city driving too.

I am running a 1988 bronco 2, with 3" Suspension Lift, 2" Body Lift and
31" tires. Posi front and detroit rear.

The motor is basically stock except for JBA Headers, flowmaster exhaust,
ADS Super Injectors, MSD Ignition, James Duff superchip, 12 degree
timing, premium gas, synthetic oil, manual transmission, electric fan,
4.0L radiator, etc. etc.

Now, If only there was someone out there who knew the stock A/C system
well enough to help me convert my A/C pump to an air compressor....

Adam

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Date: 11 Mar 00 18:36:19 EST
From: Tim Turner netscape.net>
Subject: Re: [15.1 MPG!]

Adam McLaughlin jps.net> wrote:

> Now, If only there was someone out there who knew the stock A/C system
> well enough to help me convert my A/C pump to an air compressor....

Well since you mention it... after (stock) drivability problems A/C is my
other specialty. I forget which one but one of the 4x4 magazine web sites has
a good article about using the York or Tecumseh compressor to do it; might try
doing a search on-line to find it.

Basically though it entails a filter for the low side inlet, an oil separator
on the high side (with return to the low to keep the compressor alive) and
pressure switch(es) to turn the compressor on & off at the desired levels (A
good compressor can make 450+ before something lets loose so at least use a
switch for controlling the high pressure level!). If your existing compressor
body is about 3-4 inches wide it's a HR-980 compressor (9 cylinder radial 8.0
Cubic inch displacement), if the body is more like 12-14 inches it could be
one of several other units. Eight cubes will get the job done, but just like
the engine thread "there's no replacement for displacement" and if you can
find a ten inch York in a junkyard then fabricate a bracket for it it'll get
things done quicker... Plus you could keep the A/C working that way. ;-)

Tim T

PS: thought about adding a 3rd brake light on the hatch yet? :-)



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From: "James Steele" hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: 15.1 MPG!
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 20:06:12 CST

Joe,

You notice he has modified the engine with headers, injectors, a chip,
etc., all of which tends to help performance in the mid to higher engine
speeds. Then he has much larger rear tires, which drastically reduce the
effective ratio of the 4.11s to probably near the low to mid 3.00s.
Whenever you hear of someone using a 4 series rear ratio, look carefully at
the size tire they're running. You'll almost always find a MUCH larger
tire, unless you are dealing with a vehicle built for acceleration, i.e.,
drag racing, or a purpose-built off-road vehicle.

>
>I would like someone to explain how his gas went up. I have a 99 Ranger
>with 4.10 rears and my gas mileage sucks compared to my friends who has 3
>something rears (not sure which one).
>

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Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 22:05:41 -0500 (EST)
From: Lynn Stucky engineer.com>
Subject: Re: Spark plug thread

Fire Injector spark plugs! Yes I remember them. They were
introduced in the mid fifties. I bought a set of eight for
my Ford 272 V8. The spark jumped over a surface gap. In a
spark plug tester, they would not "blow out", meaning they
would spark under any condition. However since it was a
surface gap, it was a "cold" spark. My V8 would missfire on
occasion with them. But my Cushman Eagle ran very well with
them.

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Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 22:54:28 -0500
From: David Cooley bellsouth.net>
Subject: 97 5.0L Explorer

Well,
Here's some pictures of my Explorer I put up...
Including a shot of the 3" tailpipe!
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://n5xmt.homestead.com/Explorer.html
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Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 20:08:31 -0800
From: Adam McLaughlin jps.net>
Subject: Re: 97 5.0L Explorer

Hi David,

That's awesome. I want to take some pics of the little baby bronco and
show them off too. You might like to see the FT-901DM that works as my
mobile rig. (I know that it's Japanese, but it is an older serviceable
rig that has a memory. A necessity for mobile CW!)

How about a shot of those headers?

ZUT,

Adam

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> Well,
> Here's some pictures of my Explorer I put up...
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Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 20:30:43 -0800 (PST)
From: Debra Jones go.com>
Subject: Ford Escape

Does anyone have any new information on the Ford Escape?
Any opinions????

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Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 00:14:54 -0800
From: "Jon,Jody" direct.ca>
Subject: add on board air

These links might point you in the right direction (I just hope they are still valid!)



> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.off -road. com /jeep/tech/body/york/
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.off -road. com /4x4web/ford/bigbroncos/tech/ac_conv.html
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.sonic.net/~sdelanty/truck/air.htm
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.off....


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